My post was not meant as a condemnation of the anti-lurkers, only an explanation of why I'm not joining a bandwagon based on lurking alone. The arguments are not that persuasive to me.neongrey wrote:I can appreciate that, Random, though it's hardly enough for a condemnation of all lurker-pressuring. (if nothing else, wth could someone claim in this game? "Oh, I'm scu... TOWN! TOWN!" ) Not that I think you were doing that, I just think it needs to be kept in mind.
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"When all other possibilities have been eliminated, what ever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."- Sherlock Holmes-
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Fritzler More /in than you!
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would you rather he didn't post?TheCesspit wrote:
So a second person whose been pretty quiet comes out and votes for me.Dead Rikimaru wrote: TSAGod didn't vote you for the same reason you voted MoS
He voted you because you said you needed to show pro-town behavior.
He just said he was voting you to show pro-town behavior too to mock you.
It has been later explained by TSAGod himself, Fuldu and Twomz and your insistence in not understand (points to bold part of the quote) is even more suspicious than your initial post. Looks like your are trying to discard his theory by explaining why the joke is wrong. Not the real vote.
vote: TheCesspit
I feel well and truly mocked now.Surfs up dude.-
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TheCesspit Goon
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Not at all. Not at all. Just stating that two people have come out and slapped what they view bad play/behaviour and mentioend little else.Fritzler wrote:
would you rather he didn't post?TheCesspit wrote:
So a second person whose been pretty quiet comes out and votes for me.Dead Rikimaru wrote: TSAGod didn't vote you for the same reason you voted MoS
He voted you because you said you needed to show pro-town behavior.
He just said he was voting you to show pro-town behavior too to mock you.
It has been later explained by TSAGod himself, Fuldu and Twomz and your insistence in not understand (points to bold part of the quote) is even more suspicious than your initial post. Looks like your are trying to discard his theory by explaining why the joke is wrong. Not the real vote.
vote: TheCesspit
I feel well and truly mocked now.-
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Mastermind of Sin Cassandra Complex
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actually, both my posts contributed to the game, since I was able to get discussion going instead of people just random voting and speculating on who was recruited, which, imo, is a pointless discussion.Mr. Flay wrote:Errr, without obviating any of my prior suspicions or delivering that promised analysis just yet,Vote: Mastermind of Sin. Without a power role, someone who doesn't talk is less than useless, they're actually hindering the game. So either you're scum, or you're dead weight.
And yes, I've gotten on you about this before (ever since Guitarists, I think), but it applies even moreso in this game because you can't possibly have the "I was protecting my copness" defense. Post or Perish.Permanent V/LA.-
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spring break ends a week from yesterday. also, see my previous post.Yosarian2 wrote:Yeah....MoS has now posted twice, but still hasn't offered any kind of analysis, or suggestions, or any real content. If you're "back from spring break" or whatever now, MOS, I'll give you a day or two to catch up, but if you haven't started posting a lot more then you have so far this game, and started posting some real content, I'll be glad to join the bandwagon on you and push for your lynch, especally as the other two people I considered to be lurkers, Dead Rikimaru and creampuff, have started to post a little more now.Permanent V/LA.-
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That's excellent. I can assume we'll be seeing you start every game from now on by claiming to be scum, since that's certain to spark conversation.Mastermind of Sin wrote:
actually, both my posts contributed to the game, since I was able to get discussion going instead of people just random voting and speculating on who was recruited, which, imo, is a pointless discussion.Mr. Flay wrote:Errr, without obviating any of my prior suspicions or delivering that promised analysis just yet,Vote: Mastermind of Sin. Without a power role, someone who doesn't talk is less than useless, they're actually hindering the game. So either you're scum, or you're dead weight.
And yes, I've gotten on you about this before (ever since Guitarists, I think), but it applies even moreso in this game because you can't possibly have the "I was protecting my copness" defense. Post or Perish.It takes a village to raise a lynch mob.-
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neongrey Goon
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying, that I get that, though that probably wasn't too clear.RandomActs wrote:My post was not meant as a condemnation of the anti-lurkers, only an explanation of why I'm not joining a bandwagon based on lurking alone. The arguments are not that persuasive to me.
I just -wish- my post notification would work for this game...[b]ne*on*grey[/b] [i]n.[/i]
1. an impossible colour
2. frequently misspelled online alias; only capitalized at the beginning of a sentence with no internal capitalizations and has absolutely no As anywhere in it.
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Mastermind of Sin Cassandra Complex
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you only wish I had claimed to be scum. Since the game had gotten through the first few pages before I realized it had started, I designed my first post purposefully, in order for people to catch it and start some real discussion.Fuldu wrote:
That's excellent. I can assume we'll be seeing you start every game from now on by claiming to be scum, since that's certain to spark conversation.Mastermind of Sin wrote:
actually, both my posts contributed to the game, since I was able to get discussion going instead of people just random voting and speculating on who was recruited, which, imo, is a pointless discussion.Mr. Flay wrote:Errr, without obviating any of my prior suspicions or delivering that promised analysis just yet,Vote: Mastermind of Sin. Without a power role, someone who doesn't talk is less than useless, they're actually hindering the game. So either you're scum, or you're dead weight.
And yes, I've gotten on you about this before (ever since Guitarists, I think), but it applies even moreso in this game because you can't possibly have the "I was protecting my copness" defense. Post or Perish.Permanent V/LA.-
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So wait, are you saying that during spring break you can post MORE, or post LESS?Mastermind of Sin wrote:spring break ends a week from yesterday. also, see my previous post.
Sorry, I am coming back to do more analysis, but work is kicking my ass right now - boss has been out of the office for a week.Retired as of October 2014.-
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Fritzler More /in than you!
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Vote Count:
Mastermind Of Sin- 6 (LoudMouthLee, JamesSparrow, Twomz, Fritzler, tidus_of_zanarkand, Mr. Flay)
TheCesspit- 2 (TSAGod, Dead Rikimaru)
DrippingGoofball- 1 (Fuldu)
RandomActs- 1 (Thoth)
Fuldu- 1 (broomhead)
tidus_of_zanarkand- 1 (HezLucky)
HezLucky- 1 (DrippingGoofball)
Not voting (38): creampuffeater, logicticus, Mastermind of Sin, Mini Neo, neongrey, RandomActs, TheCesspit, Yosarian2
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creampuffeater Virgin
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Yosarian2 (shrug)
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MOS: If you're not going to lurk, could you perhaps comment on some things that have happened so far in this game and actually help us find scum?
So far, we've:
Had a discussion on who might be most likely to be recruited night one
Had a mid-sized bandwagon on DG that died down
Had a bandwagon on tidus
And a few other people were voted for different reasons.
Could you perhaps comment on at least some of those things, let us know what you think about the tidus and/or DG, or tell us who you think looks scummy, or disagree with someone, or something? I mean, you are posting more now, but you still haven't done anything that looks even remotly like an attempt to figure out who the scum might or might not be.I want us to win just for Yos' inevitable rant alone. -CrashTextDummie-
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Fritzler More /in than you!
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Or you could purposefully act scummy (1 for 1) in order to generate conversation (1 for 2) like me. Of course, this greatly increases the probability that you'll be lynched... but, eh. We're all vanilla townies here. So it shouldn't matter."It's not a logical inconsistency. B can't be correct because then C would be, but it doesn't go the other way - there's nothing wrong with C being correct. Aside from Twomz saying otherwise." --Mith-
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We had a discussion of who might be recruited as scum until it became to WIFOM to be of any use. Some players discouraged further discussion. I think we would have a hard time figuring out who the most likely recruit would be since different people go by different recruiting plans.
That led to a bandwagon on DrippingGoofball where he implicated himself and semi-cleared Fritzler. Almost everyone has jumped of that wagon since then.
Some people claim suspicion of tidus_of_zanarkand. HezLucky uses bad logic to try and prove my guilt. Yosarian2 states a bandwagon on myself when I have only had one vote the entire game.
LoudMouthLee stated a new bandwagon to pressure MastermindofSin. Many people jump on rapidly. MastermindofSin contributes nothing to the conversation other than saying he was acting scummy to raise conversation.
My scum List: MastermindofSin, LoudMouthLee, HezLucky
Right now I think MastermindofSin isn't saying anything because he knows he's been caught and is trying to wait the town out. The alternative is he is town and isn't contributing in any useful way and got called on it.
I'll stay voting MastermindofSin for right now until someone convinces me otherwise.EDIT (Jan 18, 2009) - I am no longer using this account. I have made a new one under the name Dr Pepper. I barely remembered enough to access this account. I will not be using this one anymore.-
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You know... if we kill MoS, you're next on the list Tidus...Tidus wrote:I'll stay voting MastermindofSin for right now until someone convinces me otherwise."It's not a logical inconsistency. B can't be correct because then C would be, but it doesn't go the other way - there's nothing wrong with C being correct. Aside from Twomz saying otherwise." --Mith-
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I think MoS is too clever by a half. Reasoning in retrospect has its advantages, I guess.Mastermind of Sin wrote:you only wish I had claimed to be scum. Since the game had gotten through the first few pages before I realized it had started, I designed my first post purposefully, in order for people to catch it and start some real discussion."When all other possibilities have been eliminated, what ever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."- Sherlock Holmes-
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LoudmouthLee Mafia Scum
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The problem is... MoS hasn't given me a single solitary reason to unvote him.RandomActs wrote:
I think MoS is too clever by a half. Reasoning in retrospect has its advantages, I guess.Mastermind of Sin wrote:you only wish I had claimed to be scum. Since the game had gotten through the first few pages before I realized it had started, I designed my first post purposefully, in order for people to catch it and start some real discussion.
I have a problem with "Joke" posts... as they generally come from scum.
Fritzler, What number was the LML vs. Turbovolver mini?
I said in that game, joke posts come from scum, and i still feel the same way now.
Vote's not moving."LML = Mafia God" - Pie Is Good
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LoudmouthLee Mafia Scum
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Wow, your logic is faulty.tidus_of_zanarkand wrote:We had a discussion of who might be recruited as scum until it became to WIFOM to be of any use. Some players discouraged further discussion. I think we would have a hard time figuring out who the most likely recruit would be since different people go by different recruiting plans.
That led to a bandwagon on DrippingGoofball where he implicated himself and semi-cleared Fritzler. Almost everyone has jumped of that wagon since then.
Some people claim suspicion of tidus_of_zanarkand. HezLucky uses bad logic to try and prove my guilt. Yosarian2 states a bandwagon on myself when I have only had one vote the entire game.
LoudMouthLee stated a new bandwagon to pressure MastermindofSin. Many people jump on rapidly. MastermindofSin contributes nothing to the conversation other than saying he was acting scummy to raise conversation.
My scum List: MastermindofSin, LoudMouthLee, HezLucky
Right now I think MastermindofSin isn't saying anything because he knows he's been caught and is trying to wait the town out. The alternative is he is town and isn't contributing in any useful way and got called on it.
I'll stay voting MastermindofSin for right now until someone convinces me otherwise.
You're on the SAME BANDWAGON that I started! If you think I'm scummy, why join by bandwagon on MoS? You make very little mention of me, yet point a finger at me for you scum list, whereas you catch Yosarian2 in a bigger "spot" (I believe, as of now, his wording is just wrong, but if you're scum...) and you made NO MENTION OF HIM.
Right now, MoS being guilty or not, I want to lynch you tomorrow."LML = Mafia God" - Pie Is Good
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Ok, that's true. I guess it wasn't really a bandwagon. There were several other people who said they were suspicious of you, however.tidus_of_zanarkand wrote: Some people claim suspicion of tidus_of_zanarkand. HezLucky uses bad logic to try and prove my guilt. Yosarian2 states a bandwagon on myself when I have only had one vote the entire game.
Anyway, I'm just trying to get MoS to comment on SOMETHING. If he doesn't, I will have to vote him.I want us to win just for Yos' inevitable rant alone. -CrashTextDummie-
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TheCesspit Goon
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nOOB 193, if it's the one I'm thinking off, that I acted hastily in and got you lynched Day 1. Hence my previous reticence of over-committing early.LoudmouthLee wrote:
The problem is... MoS hasn't given me a single solitary reason to unvote him.RandomActs wrote:
I think MoS is too clever by a half. Reasoning in retrospect has its advantages, I guess.Mastermind of Sin wrote:you only wish I had claimed to be scum. Since the game had gotten through the first few pages before I realized it had started, I designed my first post purposefully, in order for people to catch it and start some real discussion.
I have a problem with "Joke" posts... as they generally come from scum.
Fritzler, What number was the LML vs. Turbovolver mini?
I said in that game, joke posts come from scum, and i still feel the same way now.
Vote's not moving.
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