Mini 1241: Lab Mafia (Game Over)
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charter Beware of Dog
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Fenix Goon
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In post 524, Riceballtail wrote:I don't need a case to lynch someone.
Yes you do. If you don't have a case then you're just lynching someone to get them killed, which is essentially the core of scum motivation.
In post 524, Riceballtail wrote:You are in a 1v1 with fenix.
No we're not. You have proved your scumminess repeatedly, and this is four person lylo, everyone is on the chopping block. If you want to continue arguing, that's fine and good. I'm keeping tabs.
In post 507, Riceballtail wrote:Love the smear campaign 4nx and Fenix are running here. At this point, you should realize that the battle is between the two of you.In post 517, Riceballtail wrote:Fenix and 4nx should make a case on each other. Now.In post 520, Riceballtail wrote:You need to convince me as to why you aren't scum. Thus, you need to. Get to it, or get noose.make fenix scummier
You feverish pace and frantic attempts to redirect attention are duly noted. Bold italics in the last post mine, why would anyone be making another person scummier? If you're making legitimate attempts to find scum you don't need fabrications.
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Fenix Goon
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EBWOPIn post 515, Fenix wrote:
Neutral scum. He hasn't done anything all game, and then he blames the rest of us for lack of content whenall three of us have each provided more content than him.Everyone else in the game besides RBT has provided more content then him.While lurking and not contributing isn't an explicit scumtell, long term it can be. He also hasn't strongly pushed for any lynch except mine. RBT's provided less content and has more scum-based interactions with Nanook. I believe RBT is much more likely to be scum.
More specific, more accurate. Better?GO!RAICHU!-
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charter Beware of Dog
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Empking Empking's Alt's Alt
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Riceballtail Mafia Scum
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4nxi3ty Mafia Scum
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Riceballtail Mafia Scum
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Fenix Goon
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Fenix Goon
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In post 528, charter wrote:So is there any reason you're voting RBT, or have you just stopped pretending?
I think you have selective reading syndrome. I just gave you several reasons on top of my previous points.GO!RAICHU!-
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charter Beware of Dog
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charter Beware of Dog
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In post 516, charter wrote:Fenix, point to what you've done so far this game.Point to where you have mentioned Nanook as well.
I still would like Fenix to do this.-
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Riceballtail Mafia Scum
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In post 527, Fenix wrote:EBWOPIn post 515, Fenix wrote:
Neutral scum. He hasn't done anything all game, and then he blames the rest of us for lack of content whenall three of us have each provided more content than him.Everyone else in the game besides RBT has provided more content then him.While lurking and not contributing isn't an explicit scumtell, long term it can be. He also hasn't strongly pushed for any lynch except mine. RBT's provided less content and has more scum-based interactions with Nanook. I believe RBT is much more likely to be scum.
More specific, more accurate. Better?
Except for the part where Charter has the most posts of all of us, possibly. But wait, what's this? You have the fewest posts? And you're calling other people lurkers. Right.
Also, no, telling you why you were wrong doesn't let you EBWOP it two days later. Die scum die.Þç¬ÕêåÒéÆÞ¿▒ÒüòÒü¬ÒüìÒéâõ╗ûÕàÑÒééÞ¿▒ÒüøÒü¬Òüä
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Fenix Goon
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In post 537, Riceballtail wrote:Except for the part where Charter has the most posts of all of us, possibly. But wait, what's this? You have the fewest posts? And you're calling other people lurkers. Right.
Number of posts says nothing of the amount of content is within each post. A point I've made most of this game is that you and charter generally seem like you post a lot without really pushing for anything. When I called charter out on this, he flipped shit and started tunneling me, however, his reaction was fearful and showed some attempt to justify his OMGUS read. When I calledyouout on this, you had a more confident, lazy reaction and you've refused to provide any reason for your scum-read on me. At this point you're just riding charter's OMGUS coat tails and hoping for a lynch.
In post 516, charter wrote:Fenix, point to what you've done so far this game.Point to where you have mentioned Nanook as well.
I have not mentioned Nanook, el simo (except for some vig-theory discussion), chkflip (at all), Max (at all), or any of the short term replacements. I've generally tried to stick to discussing my scum reads. Null reads are useless, town reads are only useful if your strong town-read is being heavily wagoned.
RBT is still lazy scum that needs to die. She's shown clear scum motivation with her recent posts, unwillingness to make a case, extreme defensiveness, and many attempts at both subtle and not so subtle "suggestions" to guide the game rather than content and case making. It really couldn't be clearer.GO!RAICHU!-
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charter Beware of Dog
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Fact Check:
Charter called Fenix scum in post 68.
Fenix posts twice with no mention of Charter.
Fenix called Charter scum in post 91.
Charter called Fenix's reason for voting him crap in post 106.
Charter didn't respond/question Fenix again until 172, despite postingnumeroustimes in between.
Go and check for yourselves, but
Fenix wrote:A point I've made most of this game is that you and charter generally seem like you post a lot without really pushing for anything. When I called charter out on this, he flipped shit and started tunneling me, however, his reaction was fearful and showed some attempt to justify his OMGUS read.
has not happened at any time in this game. Nowhere did I show fear, I know this because I never show fear, ever, in any mafia game. My read is also clearly, CLEARLY not OMGUS because I stated it in post 68 before Fenix ever mentioned my name, and never once has my reasoning for suspecting Fenix changed. It's always been because of his faked fakeclaim.
It's raining cold hard truth up in here.-
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4nxi3ty Mafia Scum
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charter Beware of Dog
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In post 538, Fenix wrote:In post 516, charter wrote:Fenix, point to what you've done so far this game.Point to where you have mentioned Nanook as well.
I have not mentioned Nanook, el simo (except for some vig-theory discussion), chkflip (at all), Max (at all), or any of the short term replacements. I've generally tried to stick to discussing my scum reads. Null reads are useless, town reads are only useful if your strong town-read is being heavily wagoned.
You know what is scummy and common noob scum tactics? Stay unconnected to your scumbuddy by having as little interaction with them as possible and mentioning them as little as possible.
Anxiety, don't let his excuse of not mentioning half the players in the game lessen suspicion. Just because he didn't mention them either doesn't lessen the scumminess of not interacting with confirmed scum.
The way Fenix is trying to portray events is clearly skewed. He hasn't made any attempt at scumhunting all game. He's spent the whole time droning on about lurkers, but even now, he's lurking. The hypocrisy is obvious!
I know RBT looks like scum, but I'm telling you, she does thiseverygame. I have no motivation to push for a Fenix lynch if I am scum, I implore you to go back and read Fenix's posts, you'll see that he's not town.-
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charter Beware of Dog
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Riceballtail Mafia Scum
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In post 541, charter wrote:I know RBT looks like scum, but I'm telling you, she does thiseverygame. I have no motivation to push for a Fenix lynch if I am scum, I implore you to go back and read Fenix's posts, you'll see that he's not town.
This.
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Fenix Goon
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In post 539, charter wrote:Nowhere did I show fear, I know this because I never show fear, ever, in any mafia game.
I'm reading between the lines. You did appear to become more active/determined when we had a nice debate. I don't know if you remember that but you can definitely go back and check. During that time I assessed your reaction as more town than scum (while we're looking at that post, there's a relevant example of me scum-hunting and pushing cases).
In post 541, charter wrote:Anxiety, don't let his excuse of not mentioning half the players in the game lessen suspicion. Just because he didn't mention them either doesn't lessen the scumminess of not interacting with confirmed scum.
The fact that this isn't an isolated incident should meansomethingto you. I would concede to that point if it were isolated, because it would show a direct relationship. However, in this case it's a coincidence.
In post 541, charter wrote:The way Fenix is trying to portray events is clearly skewed. He hasn't made any attempt at scumhunting all game. He's spent the whole time droning on about lurkers, but even now, he's lurking. The hypocrisy is obvious!
I'm not lurking now, that's a blatant falsehood. I've written 5/19 posts on this page (now 6/20). With four people alive and a mod doing votecounts, that's more than my fair share of posts. I've written half of the large posts on this page, and detailed several instances where RBT isreallyscummy. I have not devoted either one of my previous large posts to defense, instead pursuing the last scum. And that was a mistake on my part. It's highly bifurcated and the entire game comes down to whether or not I can show my town play this game.
This post I pointed out your jester talk because I believed you were active-lurking to stay under the radar. I understand that was a point against you which is now invalid, but I would hope you can still recognize that it was, infact, scumhunting. This is a previously mentioned post, clearly making an effort to scumhunt. Here are several now-invalid points against Anx and Wasabi. Also scumhunting. Also scumhunting. I haven't been nearly as active as I'd like to be, and I'm writing most of my posts at school, but I haven't been lurking.
In post 541, charter wrote:I know RBT looks like scum, but I'm telling you, she does thiseverygame.
If you agree that RBT looks like scum, why aren't you voting her? Have you ever seen her play a scum game, and if so, how would you assess whether or not this is one of her scum games?
Another thing: Why would she show strong scum motivation if she's town? Scum motivation is distinctly different from meta, she might naturally defend herself a lot, that's fine, but that doesn't account for posts like these where her language shows that she's blatantly fabricating things.
In post 541, charter wrote:I have no motivation to push for a Fenix lynch if I am scum
You're not scum, you're confirmed town.GO!RAICHU!-
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4nxi3ty Mafia Scum
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here is a major town-tell from fenix that i almost forgot about :
In post 49, 4nxi3ty wrote:@Fenix do you mind if I counter-claim so we can end this charade?
In post 50, Fenix wrote:I really hope you're not serious. Because mine was a fakeclaim.
this happened before i fakeclaimed jester. if fenix were scum he could've easily stayed quiet and let me cc, instead he immediately confesses to fakeclaiming(risking his own gambit) to hopefully stop a townVI(me) from counter-claiming. there is absolutely no scum motivation to stop a counter-claim.
charter, is meta the only reason you think rbt is town?-
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Riceballtail Mafia Scum
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charter Beware of Dog
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Nothing about Fenix's fakeclaim is remotely town. Not a thing.
He would risk a ton by letting someone counter, people would immediately believe the counterclaimer because "no scum would be that stupid to counterclaim day one a role they couldn't back up, it would be suicide". Best case scenario for him was both of them get lynched. He had no option but to take it back.
I think RBT is town partially because of meta and partially because of the overwhelming scumminess of Fenix.-
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charter Beware of Dog
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Riceballtail Mafia Scum
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In post 548, charter wrote:AND PLUS, HE CLAIMED VIG, IF THERE WAS A REAL VIG, THEN DUH! GUESS WHO THE REAL VIG SHOOTS!
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