Mini 380: Artifacts- Game over
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Zindaras Mr(s) Popularity
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*shrugs*
I feel that never really should be a subject. Every accusation places you in danger from Mafia (or maybe Vig) killing. I get killed just after attacking one or two Mafia members an amazing amount of times.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
68 Wins, 71 Losses
Town: 52 Wins, 54 Losses (2 Wins as Cult)
Mafia: 13 Wins, 15 Losses (1 Win as Cult)
Other: 3 Wins, 1 Loss (1 Win as Cult)
Cult: 0 Wins, 1 Loss
Cultivated: 4 Wins, 0 Losses
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++ increase suspicion of Nightfall for this post:Nightfall wrote:Zind, I've just been looking over some posts and I wanted to ask something...
You state that you are 99% sure that Kelly/Perfect is scum and 80% sure that Shadow is scum.
If we were to lynch either of them with the terms that if they came up town we would lynch you tommorrow, would you be willing to do that?-
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Nightfall Mafia Scum
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Kelly Chen Open-Minded
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Is your memory of pages 1-2 getting shaky?Zindaras wrote:While I feel that "If X isn't scum, we should lynch Y" sentiments are usually flawed and don't really like planning multiple lynches ahead, I'd accept your offer if we wouldn't lynch either of them if I didn't.
Regardless, I really need to reread this game.
Usually when players use the "overstate certainty" tactic they don't undermine themselves by saying they need a reread. It's dishonest/unhelpful of you to be willing to gamble on a "lynch them, then lynch me" proposition when you don't have the certainty you're talking about.
Noting how these suggestions are "usually" flawed is some transparent BSing. You're the one who should be able to decide that the proposition is good and harmless in this case. If I'm scum then what's the holdup? Why let a mafia "rule of thumb" stop you?
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Zindaras Mr(s) Popularity
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I don't need to reread Page 1-2, just the posts after that.Kelly Chen wrote:Is your memory of pages 1-2 getting shaky?
Usually when players use the "overstate certainty" tactic they don't undermine themselves by saying they need a reread. It's dishonest/unhelpful of you to be willing to gamble on a "lynch them, then lynch me" proposition when you don't have the certainty you're talking about.
I'm not so stupid to assume that I can't possibly be wrong. That would be needlessly arrogant.Noting how these suggestions are "usually" flawed is some transparent BSing. You're the one who should be able to decide that the proposition is good and harmless in this case. If I'm scum then what's the holdup? Why let a mafia "rule of thumb" stop you?
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68 Wins, 71 Losses
Town: 52 Wins, 54 Losses (2 Wins as Cult)
Mafia: 13 Wins, 15 Losses (1 Win as Cult)
Other: 3 Wins, 1 Loss (1 Win as Cult)
Cult: 0 Wins, 1 Loss
Cultivated: 4 Wins, 0 Losses
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Nai Executor of the Dead
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Norinel Not Voting (3)
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Apeiron replaces Jules.
Deadline: February 2, noon Eastern time, 17:00 GMT. As is standard for my games, the player with the most votes will be lynched at deadline, provided it's at least half of the number to lynch (3). Ties are broken by the time the player's been at that many votes; the top of any vote count is the person currently in danger.
Vote Count:
Nai- 3 (Coron, Apeiron, Machiaveillian-Mafia)
HackerHuck- 2 (ShadowLurker, CrashTextDummie)
ShadowLurker- 1 (Zindaras)
Coron- 1 (Nai)
Not voting (3): GreenLiquid, HackerHuck, Kelly Chen, Nightfall
6 to lynch, 3 at deadline-
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Nai Executor of the Dead
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Nai Executor of the Dead
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HackerHuck Mafia Scum
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We're still ten days from the deadline and the latest replacement hasn't even had a chance to chime in yet. I wouldn't be too hasty with a claim. Besides, it now looks like I'm right up there with you on this one.Nai wrote:Well, it seems I'm on the lynching block, and no one is posting. Should I just claim and get it over with?-
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Nai Executor of the Dead
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I'll claim now, since it seems like otherwise the game will coast to deadline, since no one else seems willing to actually do anything at this point.
My actual role is a vanilla townie. I have an item called the "Chest of Winds" (since we seem to be able to quote at least that) that is unable to be transfered. Once in the game I can use it. It seems that it's a selective role-block that affects anyone who needs to leave their home/tent/whatever to act. I'm not sure if this means that artifacts need to be close to their targets to work, or if there are actually roles like Cop that get artifacts too.
I had no yet used the Chest of Winds, and I was planning on trying to use it in, say, a Lynch or Lose situation, then night previous, to see if I could block the mafia kill.-
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Nai Executor of the Dead
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Nai Executor of the Dead
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Nightfall Mafia Scum
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Nai Executor of the Dead
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I'm not entirely sure, to be completely truthful. I haven't used it, and it doesn't explain. It just says that it will block some people, but not others. My guess is that it'll block ROLES (which, traditionally, leave the house, thus the 'tracker' role), and that artifacts are probably immune. I can't really think of why an artifact would need to leave the 'house' for its use. Though, I might be wrong on the latter.-
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Nightfall Mafia Scum
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HackerHuck Mafia Scum
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It seems to me that it would block the traditional role actions, but not actions performed by artifacts. That also seems to indicate that it can block scum nightkills unless they are performed through some other means.Nai wrote:It's not a 'block everybody'. The pm basically says that it's a role-block that works globally. But it doesn't work on EVERYONE, supposedly. I guess if you have to leave your tent, it works. Otherwise, nada.
I don't know that this item really indicates anything of alignment, since I could envision it being useful for either scum or town.
I believe Jules has been replaced by Apeiron, so I don't think we'll be able to get that information.
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