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Two is tangential. It goes like this:
Nai is scum. Nai has this artifact which blocks everything but the Mafia kill. Nai's artifact looks townier if it blocks the Mafia kill than if it doesn't. So Nai uses it and the scum no kill on purpose to make Nai seem townier.
As I said, I believe it's weak and based largely on WIFOM, but I also believe that all possibilities should be raised.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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I did not do anything with the ear last night.Nightfall wrote:I have something to say, but first I need three questions answered.
The person that had the ear - What did you ask it?
Shadow - Why did you ask about MM (Stewies Replacement?) when Jules already did that night 1?
Everyone - Does anyone else have an artifact with the words "of the Diviner" in it's name?
I asked about MM because I forgot Jules had asked about it, MM was the 2nd scummiest in my opinion although pretty distant from Zindaras so I wanted to see if my read on him was accurate, and Jules had also received no answer if you remember.:sadtorch Ken Hoang, A.D/Fuzzie, Cameron Ferris, Taj Johnson-George, Annie Duke, Patti Blagojevich, Maria/Tiffany :sadtorch
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If you want to play games, I'm not interested. Either make a valid accusation or don't expect an explaination.Take a guess?
The latter part of Day One was really strange, and I'm not sure I even could follow people's thought processes. I think it would be wise to start the day off with people posting who they find suspicious. I don't have a single clue who people currently suspect, and I'd like to hear from everyone so that I can have something to go by. Knowing where everyone stands is important, and at the moment, I don't have a good read onanyone.
A few notes:
1) Nai's use of 'artifact' does not make me think he is town. The limitations on it make me want to think that it was a mafia power that Nai wanted to label as an artifact, realized what could happen if he was ordered to pass it, and gave it the no-pass limitation.
2) I don't like how Zindaras made repeated efforts to stop HH's lynch near the end of Day 1.Avatar courtesy of Chickadee! | GTKAL-
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Why did you drop off the planet yesterday? You were going to tell us who you ultimately suspected.GreenLiquid wrote:
If you want to play games, I'm not interested. Either make a valid accusation or don't expect an explaination.Take a guess?
lol.The latter part of Day One was really strange, and I'm not sure I even could follow people's thought processes. I think it would be wise to start the day off with people posting who they find suspicious.
How likely (percentage-wise) do you think it is that Nai had this as a role ability rather than an artifact?A few notes:
1) Nai's use of 'artifact' does not make me think he is town. The limitations on it make me want to think that it was a mafia power that Nai wanted to label as an artifact, realized what could happen if he was ordered to pass it, and gave it the no-pass limitation.
I'm curious about what in particular you disliked.2) I don't like how Zindaras made repeated efforts to stop HH's lynch near the end of Day 1.-
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>_< Ugh, I had completely forgotten.Why did you drop off the planet yesterday? You were going to tell us who you ultimately suspected.
In no particular order, they were Nai, Coron, and Jules.
This was mostly due to numerous apparent links, and other actions that were outlined over the course of my reread. Nai and Coron are still suspect now, but I think Jules has fallen down on my list since yesterday.
Maybe about 20%. Not extremely likely, but still a very real possibility.How likely (percentage-wise) do you think it is that Nai had this as a role ability rather than an artifact?
Anytime a player defends another player with no explanation and seemingly for no in-thread related reason, the alarm bells start ringing. HH being a SK also means there's no mason connection.I'm curious about what in particular you disliked.
Before I comment further, I would like to know why you did not use it.I did not do anything with the ear last night.Avatar courtesy of Chickadee! | GTKAL-
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Why?ShadowLurker wrote: I did not do anything with the ear last night.
ShadowLurker wrote: I asked about MM because I forgot Jules had asked about it, MM was the 2nd scummiest in my opinion although pretty distant from Zindaras so I wanted to see if my read on him was accurate, and Jules had also received no answer if you remember.
1) So you forgot that Jules asked the ear about MM, but you remembered that he got no answer?
2) What did you take the fact that Jules didnt (theoretically) recieve an answer to mean?
I'll rephrase, how many people here STARTED the game with an artifact with the words "of the diviner" in the name? Depending on the answer I get from this, I'm thinking I could in good confidence point out at least one scum.Kelly Chen wrote:
I'm not sure this is a good question.Everyone - Does anyone else have an artifact with the words "of the Diviner" in it's name?Once Nightfall comes, everyone's dead...-
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There were reasons why I defended Hucky. I felt that he was the voice of reason throughout most of the game. His opinions very much resembled my own. Therefore, I felt he had the same alignment I have.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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EBWOP: The artifact I started with has nothing to do with the Diviner.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Then the question is: why did you 1) Not say this, and 2) Not make an actual defense?There were reasons why I defended Hucky. I felt that he was the voice of reason throughout most of the game. His opinions very much resembled my own. Therefore, I felt he had the same alignment I have.Avatar courtesy of Chickadee! | GTKAL-
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I don't see how I can elaborate further.Nightfall wrote:Why?
1) Last night, I forgot Jules used the ear on MM, I knew I wasn't using the Ear tonight as soon as I replaced in. When you brought it up this morning, I remembered that he received no result and am pointing out that it was unreliable anyway.Nightfall wrote:1) So you forgot that Jules asked the ear about MM, but you remembered that he got no answer?
2) What did you take the fact that Jules didnt (theoretically) recieve an answer to mean?
2) I take the fact that he didn't receive an answer to mean that he didn't receive an answer from the mod.
I don't like this quesiton either. Both claimed Diviner artifacts so far have been coppish roles and it feels like outguessing the mod at best.Nightfall wrote:I'll rephrase, how many people here STARTED the game with an artifact with the words "of the diviner" in the name? Depending on the answer I get from this, I'm thinking I could in good confidence point out at least one scum.:sadtorch Ken Hoang, A.D/Fuzzie, Cameron Ferris, Taj Johnson-George, Annie Duke, Patti Blagojevich, Maria/Tiffany :sadtorch
:torch Tammy/Victor, Dan/Jordan-
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Red is mine.
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I don't see how I can elaborate further.Nightfall wrote:Why?
What? how can you not? All you said so far is that you did not use it.
1) Last night, I forgot Jules used the ear on MM, I knew I wasn't using the Ear tonight as soon as I replaced in. When you brought it up this morning, I remembered that he received no result and am pointing out that it was unreliable anyway.Nightfall wrote:1) So you forgot that Jules asked the ear about MM, but you remembered that he got no answer?
2) What did you take the fact that Jules didnt (theoretically) recieve an answer to mean?
He claimed to not have recieved results directly, he also said that the results could be posted in the night scene or given to someone else.
2) I take the fact that he didn't receive an answer to mean that he didn't receive an answer from the mod.
, yes but if he really didn't why do you think that is?
I don't like this quesiton either. Both claimed Diviner artifacts so far have been coppish roles and it feels like outguessing the mod at best.Nightfall wrote:I'll rephrase, how many people here STARTED the game with an artifact with the words "of the diviner" in the name? Depending on the answer I get from this, I'm thinking I could in good confidence point out at least one scum.
What? I am just asking to see how many are suposedly in existence.
I also want to see if there is any further proof that your current artifact exists.
P.S. I have my reasons, which I will reveal soon, for asking all of this.Once Nightfall comes, everyone's dead...-
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Nightfall wrote:Red is mine.
ShadowLurker wrote:
I don't see how I can elaborate further.Nightfall wrote:Why?
What? how can you not? All you said so far is that you did not use it.
1) Last night, I forgot Jules used the ear on MM, I knew I wasn't using the Ear tonight as soon as I replaced in. When you brought it up this morning, I remembered that he received no result and am pointing out that it was unreliable anyway.Nightfall wrote:1) So you forgot that Jules asked the ear about MM, but you remembered that he got no answer?
2) What did you take the fact that Jules didnt (theoretically) recieve an answer to mean?
He claimed to not have recieved results directly, he also said that the results could be posted in the night scene or given to someone else.
2) I take the fact that he didn't receive an answer to mean that he didn't receive an answer from the mod.
, yes but if he really didn't why do you think that is?
I don't like this quesiton either. Both claimed Diviner artifacts so far have been coppish roles and it feels like outguessing the mod at best.Nightfall wrote:I'll rephrase, how many people here STARTED the game with an artifact with the words "of the diviner" in the name? Depending on the answer I get from this, I'm thinking I could in good confidence point out at least one scum.
What? I am just asking to see how many are suposedly in existence.
I also want to see if there is any further proof that your current artifact exists.
P.S. I have my reasons, which I will reveal soon, for asking all of this.Once Nightfall comes, everyone's dead...-
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Except for me using the artifact I said I had that stopped all actions?
Speaking of, I might be able to prove something here. Since you would have to pass your artifact anyways: If you had an ability that would warrent a response (cop, roleblock, etc.), did your ability work last night? I'm only looking for a yes or no, no other information.-
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