I intend to pass it to ShadowLurker tonight, obviously.
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You've misinterpreted my claim. I said it was not one-time use only, so notone-use per game. It is, of course, one-use per player, which is obviously why I didn't use it.
I intend to pass it to ShadowLurker tonight, obviously.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Also, I'd really like a deadline extension because it's pretty mean to be lynched over a misinterpretation and discussion is pretty good.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Coron, your opinion is appreciated, but a vote for Nai is, at the moment, completely irrelvant, if the deadline isn't extended.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Fair enough. I guess I'll just have to hope for a deadline extension, then.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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EBWOP: I do, in fact, believe that Apeiron is scum, by the way.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Discussion did pick up, but I think it's more due to there still being an imminent threat of deadline than anything else. So I'll extend the deadline to Tuesday (Same time as this post), and we'll go from there.Machiavellian-Mafia wrote:Mod:Can we please get a deadline extension since discussion has picked up?-
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If you intend to pass it on tonight, would it not have been in some way beneficial to send someone a message in a previous night?Zindaras wrote:You've misinterpreted my claim. I said it was not one-time use only, so notone-use per game. It is, of course, one-use per player, which is obviously why I didn't use it.
I intend to pass it to ShadowLurker tonight, obviously.
P.S. Do you know if the recipient of the message is told who sent it to them?Once Nightfall comes, everyone's dead...-
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To be honest it's more because of Zind's artifact claim for me. Mind you, the deadline is what brought that about... 8)Norinel wrote:
Discussion did pick up, but I think it's more due to there still being an imminent threat of deadline than anything else. So I'll extend the deadline to Tuesday (Same time as this post), and we'll go from there.Machiavellian-Mafia wrote:Mod:Can we please get a deadline extension since discussion has picked up?Once Nightfall comes, everyone's dead...-
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Because apparently most people believe he's the Cop. Besides, he can't just go and fake a target, I think.Kelly Chen wrote:Coron trying to defend Zindaras. FOS: Nai though.
Zindaras promises he truly believes the scum suspects he provides.
Zindaras, why is it so obvious that you'll pass your msg artifact to ShadowLurker when you believe he's scum?
What am I going to send? "Hi, I like kittens"? I did not know that there was going to be a Cop claim and I wanted to be able to use it whenever I wanted to. Sure, if I had known that there was going to be a Cop claim (and I was going to pass it next night), I probably could've figured out a message to send, but I obviously didn't know that.Nightfall wrote:If you intend to pass it on tonight, would it not have been in some way beneficial to send someone a message in a previous night?
I'll make sure to write someone a nice little message before passing my artifact tonight (I do believe I can do that, though the passing and using rules somewhat confuzzle me).
Yes. They don't. I'd say that's pretty obvious.P.S. Do you know if the recipient of the message is told who sent it to them?ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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I still don't see the usefulness of Zindaras' artifact.
Even if I have it, I can't use both the Cop and the Message Sender artifact the same night, so it's pointless and if I use the Cop, then I can announce it in the day if I still survive. I don't think it's particularly indicative of alignment either so I still think Zindaras is one of our better lynches.
I'm disconcertened by Apieron's disappearance under threat of a deadline and while I believe Jules is town, Apieron's activity is unacceptable. I still would not like an Apieron lynch today.
Mod: Can we get a prod on Apieron?
Nai wrote:Grr. I hate deadlines. We need to decide on a person to lynch at the moment. I'm, unfortunately, not sold on any particular person right now.
While Nai has always appeared more townie than scum for me, the discrepancy between these two posts is shocking and it looked like a quick jump under deadline. Nai makes it sound like in his 2nd post that he was suspecting Zindaras all along while in his other post on the same page he had not expressed suspicion of anyone at all. Nai moved way up on my suspicion list for this action and I might even move my vote.Nai wrote:I think that puts the hammer on Zindaras's claim for me. I'm fairly sure the mod said (post 2, wasn't it?) that:
There is no evidence of any artifact able to be used more than once by the same person. So either Zindaras is lying, methinks, or it's a role and Zindaras is STILL lying.If the description starts with "You may" means each player may use that artifact once. If it starts with "Once in the game, you may", that's once for the artifact for the entire game; once it's been used, the artifact either becomes useless or disappears.
Unvote, Vote Zindaras
GL seems to have disppeared as well.Mod: Can we get a prod on GL?
Has Bogre even posted this game?Mod: Can we get a prod on Bogre?
People who I 'm considering for a vote today
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Nai
People who I wouldn't mind pressuring tommorow
Bogre
Apeiron (Replacing Jules)
GreenLiquid
Nightfall
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Kelly Chen (Replacing perfect62834):sadtorch Ken Hoang, A.D/Fuzzie, Cameron Ferris, Taj Johnson-George, Annie Duke, Patti Blagojevich, Maria/Tiffany :sadtorch
:torch Tammy/Victor, Dan/Jordan-
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Sorry about double post, just noticed something from SL's long post:
Why leave off me and Coron?SL wrote:People who I 'm considering for a vote today
Zindaras
Nai
People who I wouldn't mind pressuring tommorow
Bogre
Apeiron (Replacing Jules)
GreenLiquid
Nightfall
People who I think are town
Kelly Chen (Replacing perfect62834)The end justifies the means.-
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As you're both in a grey area? I didn't like your predecessor too much but I like you and haven't really gotten any good reads on Coron plus I could see both Coron scum and Coron town regardless of the alignment of Nai.Machiavellian-Mafia wrote:Sorry about double post, just noticed something from SL's long post:
Why leave off me and Coron?SL wrote:People who I 'm considering for a vote today
Zindaras
Nai
People who I wouldn't mind pressuring tommorow
Bogre
Apeiron (Replacing Jules)
GreenLiquid
Nightfall
People who I think are town
Kelly Chen (Replacing perfect62834):sadtorch Ken Hoang, A.D/Fuzzie, Cameron Ferris, Taj Johnson-George, Annie Duke, Patti Blagojevich, Maria/Tiffany :sadtorch
:torch Tammy/Victor, Dan/Jordan-
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Why would that be pretty obvious?Zindaras wrote:
Yes. They don't. I'd say that's pretty obvious.P.S. Do you know if the recipient of the message is told who sent it to them?
If someone got a message about someone being town or scum, how would they know that it came from a trustable source?Once Nightfall comes, everyone's dead...-
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The Cop can send the message the Night after he investigated to keep the investigation results from the hands of the Mafia.Machiavellian-Mafia wrote:IMO SL just indicated a valid point where Zindara's current plans won't be very effective. Zindaras are there any other benefits you can see from passing your message sender?
The entirety of the plan goes a bit like this.
Player A is the Cop. On Night X, he investigates Player B and finds him to be innocent and receives my artifact. He passes the Cop artifact to Player C.
On Night X+1, Player A can use my artifact to send a message with the name of the innocent investigation to someone he thinks is town and passes my artifact to Player C. In the meanwhile, Player C investigates Player D.
And so on and so on.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Message-senders never do.Nightfall wrote:Why would that be pretty obvious?
They won't, obviously.If someone got a message about someone being town or scum, how would they know that it came from a trustable source?ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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