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Good at something, at least, then. Still.jerubbaal wrote:Good players? Looks like he's only good as scum, to me.
sounds reasonable.Cogito Ergo Scum wrote:
Well, he's voting me, which is obviously not good, so I'm pretty sure he's town.jerubbaal wrote: Good players? Looks like he's only good as scum, to me.scumchat never die-
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Still, cool PR, faked or not. If faked, I think we have no doubt SensFan's scum. If not, that still could mean he's scum, or am I wrong? I've never played with a PR before, so do tell me, does having a PR mean you're definitely town?Well, let's think of what the PR would have to look like.
* You can mime.
* You can vote for single letters.
* You can't vote for anything longer than a single letter, unless it's a real player.
I can accept having to mime as a possible post restriction.
Having to spell out your words with votes is a bit less believable; it's really annoying, and I don't see why it would allow single letters but not whole words.
Being able to do both is just plain silly. I can't imagine any mod giving a post restriction that lets you choose from two, equally nonrestrictive, means of expression. I also can't imagine why you would start out using the more annoying form (repeated votes) if mime was an option.
In short, even if I believed that there might be a post restriction in a mini normal, the specific restriction you have claimed is totally incredible. Since a protown player wouldn't have any reason to fake a post restriction, you must be scum.scumchat never die-
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Tomorrow? Are you sure you wanna lynch SensFan just because he has or is possibly faking a very bad PR? I think that's scummy, to say the least.Speaking of which, CESc, I assume that you are in fact lying through your teeth. If you really think that townies fake post restrictions all the time, though, please provide an example so I can take you off my list of people to lynch tomorrow.
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I'm trying to say that I'm, for now, convinced that he's not faking. I admit that there's a fair possibility that he is, but I don't think so, at the moment. My point was that the nature of the PR--being only able to communicate in votes of a single letter, makes it too difficult to fake. Indeed, faking it would get tiresome and annoying to SF soon, so if he's faking it he's bound to stop anytime in the near future. This is why I'm convinced that he isn't faking. It's just too fiddly, if he could just choose to speak normally. About the alignment, I don't have any feelings yet. Possibly townie, although he hasn't yet contributed, which can be because we were questioning him about his PR.Cogito Ergo Scum wrote:
Hmm.. I don't really understand what you're trying to say here, but if SFKorts wrote:And the emphasis is on possibly. It's not likely, in my opinion. I, for one, would be too lazy to fake a PR as ridiculous as this. I mean, this is pure art! It takes five minutes for a short sentence. If he's faking it, he's good. I meangood. And full of horseshit, the idiot.doesindeed have the posting restriction, what do you think his alignment is? And what do you think right now (with wether he's got a pr or not still unknown)?scumchat never die-
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If he's pro-town, it doesn't matter if he contributes pages worth of suspicions or not. If we lynch him and he's town, it'll still be a step towards losing the game, whether or not he's helpful. I think we need to move on.Xylthixlm wrote:
Chance that he is faking: High.Korts wrote:Tomorrow? Are you sure you wanna lynch SensFan just because he has or is possibly faking a very bad PR? I think that's scummy, to say the least.
Chance that he is scum if he is faking: Very high.
Chance that he will be helpful if he is not faking: Low.
Benefit of lynching him compared to any other player: High.scumchat never die-
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Geez, how can I say it? I think he isn't faking, because no-one who has any sense would voluntarily communicate in votes of single letters. If he wanted to fake a PR, he could've thought up an easier one.Cogito Ergo Scum wrote:
Wow.. This post is really wishy washy.Korts wrote:I'm trying to say that I'm, for now, convinced that he's not faking. I admit that there's a fair possibility that he is, but I don't think so, at the moment. My point was that the nature of the PR--being only able to communicate in votes of a single letter, makes it too difficult to fake. Indeed, faking it would get tiresome and annoying to SF soon, so if he's faking it he's bound to stop anytime in the near future. This is why I'm convinced that he isn't faking. It's just too fiddly, if he could just choose to speak normally. About the alignment, I don't have any feelings yet. Possibly townie, although he hasn't yet contributed, which can be because we were questioning him about his PR.
Also, you're convinced he's not faking because if he was, he's stop doing so in the near future?
If you're gifted with the ability to see the future, please say so. It might be a very helpful tool winning this game.scumchat never die-
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CESc has a point. I mean, what you're trying to say is you thought CESc was asking SF to admit to being scum? Cos in your opinion, as far as I gather, faking a PR can only mean that he's scum, so if he admits to faking, he admits to being scum. And you really thought that SF would admit to faking if he was scum? Great idea! Hey all you scum, raise your hands, please!Cogito Ergo Scum wrote:
I don't get it. You thought I wanted SensFan to admit it was fake, which, because you didn't believe a townies would fake a PR, would catch us a scum, yet you think it's a point against me? I'm not completely following you here.Xylthixlm wrote: I was assuming you were trying to get SensFan to admit it's fake. It never crossed my mind that you could actually believe that he might be faking but still town.scumchat never die-
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How's not agreeing with you scummy? You know, you're right that a counterclaim would do us no good, but lynching the claimed cop doesn't give him even a chance to prove his claim. I know I did ask whether we should wait for a counterclaim, but I didn't think about the consequences. Sorry, my bad. If we don't lynch SF, he might be NK-ed, but if he isn't, he's scum, as far as I'm concerned. I dunno really, I may be newbie, but if he's town and we lynch him, it's still a step towards losing regardless of his contribution. And I just don't understand the doubletalk comment.Xyl wrote: Korts: Says that if SensFan's PR is faked, he's obviously scum. Doubletalks about whether it's possibly faked. Opposes SensFan lynch on the basis that he might be protown (newbie scum seem to make this argument a lot). Suggests a counter of SensFan's cop claim, which would expose the real cop for a nightkill. Overall, very scummy. FOS: Korts
Likewise, Xyl, my top suspect is you, followed by CESc: your reasons amount to "SF can't say anything of value, so let's get rid of him, and anyway he's faking until he proves otherwise" which in my opinion is probably impossible to prove. I'm keeping the vote for now.
About the lurkers, however, I agree.mod: please do prod or replace Joubert, matimafia and theopor_CODAnd lovo seems to be lurking in plain sight, to me.scumchat never die-
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All I was trying to say is that I'm not a hundred percent sure, just pretty convinced. Nothing wrong in being politically correct, is there?Xyl wrote: Here you take both sides of the issue. You say you're convinced isn't, but if it turns out that he is, you can come back later and say "Oh, but I admitted there's a possibility that he is". That tells me that you don't really believe what you're saying, and want some insurance.
I'm glad if that's not your position, but if you'd like the quotes that made me think that, so be it:Xyl wrote:
This is most definitely not my position. My position is that he could say things of value, but doesn't. If you're going to try to paint me as scummy for something I said, at least do it for something I actually said.
Likewise, Xyl, my top suspect is you, followed by CESc: your reasons amount to "SF can't say anything of value, so let's get rid of him, and anyway he's faking until he proves otherwise" which in my opinion is probably impossible to prove.
well this isn't exactly it yet, but still a bit scummy in my read:
getting closer:Xyl wrote: CESc admits to lying --> null tell. (There's a reason for a townie to do it, but I oppose lying in general.)
CESc doesn't admit to lying, doesn't provide evidence --> scum tell.
CESc doesn't admit to lying, provides evidence --> I get confused.
well, maybe you're right and I was wrong. But still, those last two quotes are pretty under the belt for SF, if not scummy. Maybe it was CESc after all who wanted to lynch cos he wouldn't say anything valuable to us.Xyl wrote: Chance that he is faking: High.
Chance that he is scum if he is faking: Very high.
Chance that he will be helpful if he is not faking: Low.
Benefit of lynching him compared to any other player: High.
What you haven't answered:how can he prove the PR?scumchat never die-
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looks like I'm wrong again, Xyl... That was CESc too. Sorry.Cogito Ergo Scum wrote:
But how would he be able to do something scummy at all with this PR? Other than using his vote, he can hardly do anything producive for the town. And since such a PR is very rare in a mini normal, I'd rather say he's faking his PR unless we can prove he's actually not.ting =) wrote:How is lynching SensFan helpful to town? As far as I can tell, that's nothing more than a OMGPRS lynch. Yes, it's annoying, but he hasn't actually done anything scummy unless you can prove he's actually faking his PR.
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What points to SF being almost definitely scum? I just can't agree with you. It looks like he has a PR. There's no point in arguing about that, he's either faking or he isn't. There's no way to prove either. What you're saying is he's definitely scum, because he has a PR? QED? That's just shitlogic.CESc wrote: Too bad Xyl already made the Jester analogy, because I would've. Really, just because one is almost definitely scum, you think they're townies trying to mess with the town? That's quite possibly one of the worst arguments I've heard. And even if he'd be sabotaging this much, we'd be better off lynching him asap anyway.
And now you're pointing fingers 'cause Joubert's not agreeing about SF being almost definitely scum? No way to be sure of SF's alignment, PR or not, except for scum themselves, and if you're one of them, I'd understand why you would make the case that took the least effort. Shit, man, Cop may be the obvious therefore most idiotic claim for Day 1, but if he is Cop, what should he do?CESc wrote:
The real cop already knows SF is scum. You're trying to get your partner to live for another day, and get a cop investigation wasted while you're at it?Joubert wrote: OR... Simply ignore SensFan for now, find other trails and the real Cop (if there's one) can investigate him during the Night. That's another possibility...
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Yeah, alright, so I may have misunderstood that part. Now I thought it over again, you're right that that plan wouldn't work, cos if SF's claim is true, he himself is the cop, and if he's lying, he is probably scum or a townie sabotaging the game. So that does cast some suspicion on Joubert.CESc wrote: Again, you're completely misrepresenting me. I'm not pointing fingers because he doesn't agree SF is almost definitely scum, I'm pointing fingers because of the plan he proposed, because it has some obvious flaws:
1. If there is another (real) cop, that cop knows for sure that SF is scum -> If there is a real cop, it would be a waste for that cop to investigate SF.
2. Simply 'ignoring' someone because you're not completely sure that person is scum is simply bad. Why the hell would you want to ignore someone?
Also, from Joubert's wording, it seems he knows that SF is not a cop.
But what I meant, and I think it wasn't difficult to see what I meant, was that you were saying basically that SF is almost definitely scum, 'cause he's likely faking. I don't see why having a PR is so unreasonable in a mini normal. Of course I haven't played much at all, so you know best.
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I am betting on CESc. He's very intent on an SF lynch. Anyway, I'm drunk as of now, so more reasons later.Xyl wrote:
Korts, I have a question for you: Who do you think is more likely to be scum than SensFan?
I quite agree. That was my point. That itElias wrote:
that was clarified and doesnt actually prove anything.Korts wrote: Oh, and of course the slipup of the mod.doesn'tmean anything, contrary to what CESc says.scumchat never die-
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On the other hand, I think lovo is kinda echoing what I had already said before his post. That seems a bit suspicious, although if he's scum, I don't understand why he didn't jump on the SF wagon rather than siding with him.lovo14 wrote: the only prob with this is that the REAL cop if it isnt sf hasnt came forward. true its day 1 doesnt wanna be put out there. but there would surely be a doc out there to protect him on the counter claim if need be
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Well, basically, the single-mindedness is what makes me suspicious of you.CESc wrote: That said, if you have any other reasons, like you said, please state them.
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Post 137 not so much, but yeah:CESc wrote: Less talk, more lynch, please. SF is at L-2.
And even after the mod explained the "incriminating" post, you still say it's a valid scumtell and points to SF lying.CESc wrote: I, too, am all for an SF lynch, but I'd rather wait until everyone has had a chance to check in and give his/her opinion before we end the day.
Actually, no. Only my suspicion ofKorts, your suspicion of me and lovo is completely based on the assumption of SF being town.youis. Lovo's reaction only confuses me if he's scum and SF is town. Lovo's actions are much more of a scumtell if SF is scum, what with defending him and echoing me when I questioned you.scumchat never die-
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Replacements, good.
@SensFan: could you answer why you unvoted and voted for Elias now three times in a row, when you already had your vote on him? Another: I agree with Cavebear, quoting his post would make contribution easier on you.
About keeping SF alive, I agree with you, Shanba. Nothing to add, you wrote it all pretty much down.scumchat never die-
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You mean likeElias_the_thief wrote:
hes been unvoting and voting letters to spell out messages to me.Korts wrote:
@SensFan: could you answer why you unvoted and voted for Elias now three times in a row, when you already had your vote on him? Another: I agree with Cavebear, quoting his post would make contribution easier on you.secretmessages? Or the things like "doesn't need to" (post 267) or "good posting" (post 260)? Why'd he need to unvote then? Khel already said he won't count single letters as votes for the person whose name starts with that letter. Do explain, please.scumchat never die-
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But there's no actual harm in giving him another day. If he's really the cop, shouldn't we let him have at least the first night to investigate?Elias_the_thief wrote:
Why would you want to keep him alive if you think hes scum.Cogito Ergo Scum wrote:Yay, replacements!
I must say I quite agree with what Shanba says, in the sense that, would SF be mafia, he'd likely be a goon/gf (which is the trend in mini normals) and that means it isn't very harmful if we keep him alive. I once before played a game where we kept a known mafia goon alive on purpose, and that turned out to be quite a good play. If SF keeps contributing, and he seems to be doing that quite a lot better lately, I guess I'm okay with keeping him alive. Still think he's scum, though.
1) the idea is to catch scum, and if we KNOW hes scum it gives as more info about who else is scum
2) it delays LYLO if we kill him now
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Right, Elias, sorry. On the other hand, seems like cavebear's idea is working.SensFan wrote:Elias_the_thief wrote:he is under the impression that he has to revote afterwards.Cavebear wrote:This (the above quote or, if any parts areformatted like this, those parts) is true.Cavebear wrote:Want us to get a couple of good phrases down for you to quote?Cavebear wrote:Yes, that would work.scumchat never die-
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I wasn't trying to say anything like that. What I don't understand is why, in his first reply he said this:Xylthixlm wrote:
Why would you even raise theKorts wrote:@xyl, I'm sorry if that sounded like an accusation, I was just merely pointing out that there was no point in unvoting and revoting if the supposed issue was voting letters. Just curious.possibilityof secret messages unless you think that SensFan and Elias_the_Thief might be scum together? It sure looks like an attempt to cast suspicion to me.
Instead, he could have just said then what he just said now:Elias wrote:hes been unvoting and voting letters to spell out messages to me.
I'm aware that any such "secret messages", if there had been any, would be kind of apparent to everyone else as well, not just Elias. I was just confused by the first quote. A bit of an awkward sentence. If I thought they were scum both, I'd have said so.Elias wrote:I think he is under the impression that he has to revote afterwards.scumchat never die-
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Joubert wrote:
Mah, this is too easy. IF there's "another" Cop (we should call him the "real" Cop), him investigating the claimed Cop could reveal useful. And in the same post, Shaka says SensFan could be the Cop, so let's not lynch him at all. Lacks subtlety...And his suggestion for another cop to investigate sens is just bad, though I'm inclined to put that down to bad game theory rather than malicious intent.
And I get voted on for I-don't-know-what-reason in a 8-hour time span...Vote: Joubert
The "real" cop would be wasting an investigation on SF. He'd practically be confirmed scum. All the cop would have to do is come forward with the results of last night, and SF would be screwed. On the other hand, I advise the real cop, if it isn't SF, to keep his investigation to himself unless he has at least a guilty. Until then, SF would have a false sense of security and would be more likely to trip up even without the counterclaim. Shanba says SF could be the cop, so let's not lynch himuntil we can be sure he's not. Lacks subtlety, sure. Do you? Heck yeah.scumchat never die-
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About the bolded part, a few pages ago you were intent on the "real" cop investigating SF and confirming his guiltiness, now you say we shouldn't let SF attract a counterclaim. Inconsistent, as it were.Joubert wrote:Korts wrote:The "real" cop would be wasting an investigation on SF. He'd practically be confirmed scum. All the cop would have to do is come forward with the results of last night, and SF would be screwed. On the other hand, I advise the real cop, if it isn't SF, to keep his investigation to himself unless he has at least a guilty. Until then, SF would have a false sense of security and would be more likely to trip up even without the counterclaim. Shanba says SF could be the cop, so let's not lynch him until we can be sure he's not.But if he's actually Scum, then the Cop coming forward is exactly what he'd want. We don't need the Cop to get out in the light for him. The Cop must hide as long as possible to get as much info as possible before he's targeted, that's obvious. You agree with much of what I said anyways, that's why I find it strange that you voted me in the same post...
SensFan looks anything but convincing, PR included. He talks normally with one-line, one-letter bolded votes, but he can also quote as usual and he votes as usual also. It doesn't look serious...
Vote: SensFan, to make my vote reflect my thought...
Cavebear doesn't look too serious either with his direct vote only because, according to him, I don't post enough. A FoS would have been borderline, but a full vote is exagerated. Here:
FoS: Cavebear with a toothache
My vote for you: I didn't actually agree with you. I said that the "real" cop, if it isn't SF, shouldn't investigate SF, because he'd be wasting an investigation, since if he comes forward with results anytime, SF is confirmed scum anyway. Now,yousaid that the "real" copshouldinvestigate SF. I think it was a deliberate mistake, to make the possible "real" cop waste an investigation. That's my reason.scumchat never die-
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I'm sorry, but I don't see lynching SF as a pro-town cause. We may be wasting valuable information from his N1 investigation, if he hasn't been lying. I, for one, would like to hear what he has to say to us tomorrow, even if we have to decide whether to believe him or not. He hasn't been useless so far, and I think if he really is the cop, we should let him contribute. If he isn't cop, he'll slip up anyway.scumchat never die-
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I am pushing--well, not pushing so much, more nudging--a case on Joubert. My vote's already on him, and I have stated my reasons, pretty much.Xylthixlm wrote:
If you don't want to lynch SensFan, why don't I see you pushing a case on someone else?Korts wrote:I'm sorry, but I don't see lynching SF as a pro-town cause. We may be wasting valuable information from his N1 investigation, if he hasn't been lying. I, for one, would like to hear what he has to say to us tomorrow, even if we have to decide whether to believe him or not. He hasn't been useless so far, and I think if he really is the cop, we should let him contribute. If he isn't cop, he'll slip up anyway.scumchat never die-
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Just restating my reasons for the vote on Joubert:
Joubert wrote: OR... Simply ignore SensFan for now, find other trails and the real Cop (if there's one) can investigate him during the Night. That's another possibility...
And this is an obviously flawed plan, as has been already pointed out. And, several posts later, he's coming up with this:Joubert wrote: Mah, this is too easy. IF there's "another" Cop (we should call him the "real" Cop), him investigating the claimed Cop could reveal useful. And in the same post, Shaka says SensFan could be the Cop, so let's not lynch him at all. Lacks subtlety...
And this is a direct contradiction to what he said in the first two quotes. My suspicion is based on the fact that he didn't say alright, I was wrong, but rather tried to make it look like there was no contradiction.Joubert wrote: But if he's actually Scum, then the Cop coming forward is exactly what he'd want. We don't need the Cop to get out in the light for him. The Cop must hide as long as possible to get as much info as possible before he's targeted, that's obvious. You agree with much of what I said anyways, that's why I find it strange that you voted me in the same post...
If he's saying here that he was only saying that the "real" cop investigating SF is a possibility, it makes me feel like he was trying to plant the idea of investigating SF.Joubert wrote: Korts, there's a difference between investigating and claiming. You're right when you say I did suggest that the real Cop investigate SF, but I don't think I used the word "should". I said he could do it, and not counter-claim, and I'm pretty sure everyone agrees with that, including you...
I don't think this post needs explaining.Joubert wrote: Nice work, Cavebear, now you are definitely getting in the way of the Town. I'd swear it was staged...
On another note, I'd like to bring up the previous case of lovo, which disappeared a bit prematurely, imo. The basic facts are that he echoed previously stated opinions, didn't contribute much as far as I saw, and is lurking quite a bit.scumchat never die-
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