Mafia 75: Return of the Mafia! TOWN WINS (really late)

[WhoMe?]

Sucks the cop is dead, but yay so is the cult. The delayed recruit will be wandering around tomorrow with no friends. (Survivor is a fun role, right?)

Out of curiousity, why are some of the numbers in the list bolded and some arn't?

Woah. How do you know...

1. There is a cult recruit?
2. This recruit is also 'delayed'?

Unvote, Vote: Nemesis

This is Bandwagon worthy.

BM

at first i was gonna ask what you were talking about, but on re-read, yeah, all we know is that we have a dead delayed recruiter, who said anything about a recruit?

vote Nemesis

[WhoMe?]

Interesting kill choices too. Im not atall surprised by Tar or TJM, but JDGA seems a little strange. Who here has played with him before?

Given that JDGA was a bodyguard, he may not have been targeted at all. I've never played bodyguard, would it be usual to throw out a "blind" protect on night 0?

[WhoMe?]

i thought a body guard was someone who "took the bullet" if their chosen protectee is targeted for death. On ight 0, any chosen protectee would by necessity be an uninformed, and hence blind choice. If a bodyguard is a doc , then disregard everything I have said

[WhoMe?]

at first i was gonna ask what you were talking about, but on re-read, yeah, all we know is that we have a dead delayed recruiter, who said anything about a recruit?

What does a recruiter do? Recruits people, yes? So if there was a regular recruiter you would assume there is a cult member running around.

If you were a delayed SK, would you kill someone n0 so they'd die n1? Assuming the cultist works the same way, I'll ask you the same question; would you recruit someone n0 so they'd become cult n1?

So even if the recruit was delayed, they'd still exist tomorrow despite them being reduced to a survivor role.

works for me

unvote Nemesis

[WhoMe?]

vote: battle mage

reason: if you're a miller, i'm a newbie.

will expound upon that more when at a computer, not a cell phone.

Still waiting for this expounding

alright, issue solved.

stop talking about the cult recruiter. he's dead, and now there is no cult.

the next person who talks about the cult recruiter as if its going to help the town to do so is going to be personally murdered.

Vote: Rosso Carne

Should i ask what your issue with the game was?
Or perhaps more importantly, why you would feel the need to share that information with us?
Oh and not forgetting, an explanation of how you know there is no living members of the cult left.

kthxbai.

BM in this post you seem to be indicating that Rosso's knowledge of cult members is suspicious - what role exists that would have knowledge of cult status? I think this is a misrep of Rosso. I think he is just reasoning there is no cult, ie delayed means he couldn't start recruiting night 0, now he is dead, therefore no more cult. I can't think of a scummy role that would have priviledged info about this, apart from the guy who is dead.

Updated Vote Count, SilverConqueror has just over 24 hours to post before being replaced.

[WhoMe?]

could someone explain the miller role to me please? OK when investigated they come back as guilty, do they get any protown powers also, or are they just a vanilla who looks bad if investigated?

[WhoMe?]

so basically either

BM is lying scum and is claiming miller to avoid investigations

or

BM is telling the truth, he's basically vanilla, but there's always going to be that uncertainty about him, and scum will try to play on that to get him lynched at a crucial moment


Am I missing something or is this the situation? If this is the case I may switch my vote to BM, because I don't see much of a down side.

[WhoMe?]

I think Nano needs more pressure

I do not have a strong feeling on anyone, so i am going to join this initiative for now.

vote Nano

[WhoMe?]

Oh and i should note, any cop investigations now would be dubious anyway, due to potential insanity, as we already have a dead sane cop.


BM

Ummm you know this how exactly? the dead guy just has a description of cop, would it have said paranoid cop or whatever if that were the case? does just "cop" mean he was defo sane?

[WhoMe?]

WHEE!

agreed.

kill: thenextepisode

hmmm last time i saw you do this in stargate mafia, you turned up scum.

[WhoMe?]

Updated vote count.

Is rosso actually voting thenextepisode then? He used the word kill, not vote.

Fixed. Gorrad, pay more attention

-Albert

[WhoMe?]

the only thing im worried about at this point, is that this day will never end.

[WhoMe?]

^^^ how did I see the end of that game?


at any rate, what is your point whome?

the only point is that there is a limited amount of info, this being day one, we are not approaching any sort of lynch (i think we are at 6/14 on our leading contender) and the page count is climbing. I know Day 1 interaction can be useful later on, but we could easily clock another 20 pages at this rate, I'd like to see the game progress is all.

[WhoMe?]

retracting a vote because you think it makes you look bad, and abandoning whatever reason you had to put it there in the first place?

unvote

vote Tlp

[WhoMe?]

BM pretty much said everything relevant about the Matt S case, but something else of note was that all the people voting TLP were fairly scummy to start with.

6 (now 7 i think) of us are all fairly scummy? Let's see some evidence of that please.

[WhoMe?]

And is it just me or does WhoMe? seem only to pop up when someone is said against him?

Go on then, prove it. The comment of armix's I just jumped on is the first time in this game anything has been said against me, so what you are saying here is pure BS.

[WhoMe?]

And is it just me or does WhoMe? seem only to pop up when someone is said against him?

Go on then, prove it. The comment of armix's I just jumped on is the first time in this game anything has been said against me, so what you are saying here is pure BS.

never seen u so aggressive before as town... 0.o

FoS: Whome

new play style. As u know i would normally have been lynched already as town ......

[WhoMe?]

28 pages and our elading contender is L -10. What would people think about asking for a deadline?

[WhoMe?]

Immediately lynch you? That'd sort of kill two birds with one stone.

vote me then.

[WhoMe?]

cool, bandwagon

unvote vote WhoMe?

[WhoMe?]

That WhoMe? wagon went too fast, lets derail it!

Kill: WhoMe?

Unvote

Vote: Lloyd

you stole Rosso's signature move!

unvote vote Lloyd

[WhoMe?]

why are you guys doing this 28 pages into the game?

because after 28 pages we're no closer to a lynch thaan after 5 pages. It's becoming an exercise in futility.

[WhoMe?]

well,

I'm not liking the proxying. How can we analyse someone's voting pattern, when they weren't placing their own posts? Also not liking the backdoor implication of miller masonhood.

confirm vote Lloyd

[WhoMe?]

looking back at killa seven, this immediately rang bells for me.

alright, issue solved.

the next person who talks about the cult recruiter as if its going to help the town to do so is going to be personally murdered.

so your basically saying your either scum or a sk? and you can kill someone..

vote rosso carne

It seemed pretty obvious to me that Rosso was just spoutin goff, and meant personally murder as in come round your house. Killa's seizing on this as some kind of scum/vig admission seems a little off.

unvote, vote killa

[WhoMe?]

I concur with dahill here. Him claiming earlier also has the benefit of us having a couple extra days to discuss other people aka better other lynch.

I agree as well. There's no point getting within minutes of the deadline and having him popping up claiming a pro-town power role, either claim when there's enough time to still change the direction of the day, or don't bother.

[WhoMe?]

unvote killa seven

as ckd says, lynching a claimed vig is crazy

[WhoMe?]

OK,

I was going to ask why in the world we would want to lynch a claimed vig, but CKD's post above made the point of if he is a SK, he gets another kill.

so trying to map this out

scenario a, he actually is a vig - lynching him is bad

scenario b, he is lying he is scum of the mafia kind - the real vig (if there is one) will kill him tonight - lynching him would be a waste, if we have a good alternative candidate, but if we have no good alternative, lynching him is beter than a mislynch

scenario c, he is lying and he is scum of the SK variety, all the points from scenario B apply, but we also have the chance of him killing again, and his kill may be town or scum.

in two of these scenarios lynching him ain't that bad. I think what will swing my decision is the availability of a good alternative lynch. I need to reassess and will come in with a vote on killa or a n other this weekend.

[WhoMe?]

Given that he is claiming the throat slit, rather than the shotgunning (which sounds more viggish) I'm going to return my vote to killa. I agree with the people who have made cases for him being SK

vote killa seven

[WhoMe?]

im already on killa so no vote required.

FOS BattleMage

. If the rest of the town id going to claim not vig, that forces the vig to claim, which has happened. I would rather have left the decision in his hands

[WhoMe?]

Can someone explain to me why we need a deadline extension? What more are we trying to wring from the crushed sponge that is Day 1? We have found scum, of that I am certain. Surely we are not considering accepting his "I'll kill who you say" deal? Can we lynch killa7 already?

[WhoMe?]

OK, though I can't see this game being a popular candidate to replace into! 49 pages and counting day 1!

[WhoMe?]

Can someone explain to me why we need a deadline extension? What more are we trying to wring from the crushed sponge that is Day 1? We have found scum, of that I am certain. Surely we are not considering accepting his "I'll kill who you say" deal? Can we lynch killa7 already?

Appeal to Emotion.

i thought an appeal to emotion was when someone was under pressure?

[WhoMe?]

ok guys.

i definitely claimed cultie cop day 1.

but for all of you who missed it, im cultie cop.

Not plain out in the open you didn't. If it was some kind of breadcrumb, point it out now. Even if you're telling the truth, does your guilty on him even mean anything? If he's telling the truth he's a miller, so of course you got a guilty.

[WhoMe?]

Vote: Rosso Carne

I'm about 99% sure of his guilt. I'll explain why later on tonight. The evidence is pretty near irrefutable.

I had thoughts in that direction myself. I think this is an attempt to get on the confirmed townie list.

step 1 claim an investigative role of a scum faction that was wiped out night 0.

step 2 find yourself a guilty by investigating a miller (oh wait you totally missed his miller claim and all the discussion around it in day 1 - hard to believe)

step 3 profit!

vote Rosso

[WhoMe?]

I have no idea what you two are on about, but I'll let that go for now. However, I want an explanation of what, exactly, a cult cop is. Many of you seem to think its a Cop who gets guilty on Cult, but I'm more of the persuasion that he is a Cultist who retains his Investigative powers.

And a guilty on BM doesn't make him any less nulled than before. Scum also come up guilty, or at least Mafia do, so saying hes more innocent now because a Cop got a guilty on him is false. Which is exactly what we discussed much of Day 1.

which is precisely why it makes no sesnse for any kind of cop to have targeted him in the first place. What's he going to find? an innocent result? And as you pointed out, the BM miller discussion took up a lot of space, how could anyone have missed it? I want to hear a full explanation out of Rosso of exactly what role he is claiming and why he investigated BM.

[WhoMe?]

Why would he claim being a cult recruit who can still investigate. Care to give me a reason?

if that's addressed to me, that's not how I read his claim. I assumed him to mean a cop who finds cult members. Whethe ro rnot he's telling the truth tho....

[WhoMe?]

I'm on the he's not actually a cult cop and he's running something dumb here.

me too. If I believed he was town I wouldn't be voting him.

FOS Peers

What's the use in lynching a townie to get a confirmed townie, who would then be fodder for a scum NK? Let's lynch scum instead.

[WhoMe?]

FOS Peers

What's the use in lynching a townie to get a confirmed townie, who would then be fodder for a scum NK? Let's lynch scum instead.

... okay, now I'm confused. I'm saying he's not townie -- I'm saying that if he were townie, well, he's not an important one, but I don't think he is due to the cult/miller/night 0 thing. So I'm getting an FOS... why, exactly?

Here was your post

Okay, okay, I think I see where all this is going.

The gist of it is, we're lynching Rosso to see if BM is, indeed, a miller or not.

Basicly, we're getting rid of someone who is a) useless (in a power-role sense) if telling the truth and b) scum if lying to test the towniness of someone who is a) useless (in a power-role sense, not in a game-play sense) if telling the truth and b) scum if lying.

Right?

Given that this plan is mainly being formulated by the latter... okay, I agree with it.

Vote: Rosso

I'm voting him because I think he's scum. The only way lynching him would tell us is BM were a miller or not were if Rosso were telling the truth, and is indeed a Cult finding Cop. This is what you seem to believe because you stated that the gost of the plan was to confirm BM, and then said you approved. That's why I FOS'd. This also seems to make your last point claiming that you think Rosso is scum a shading of the truth. That FOS is staying put and may well become a vote at some point.

[WhoMe?]

the mod just changed his mind.

i now know that BM would show up guilty no matter what.

unvote

and can he please be vigged tonight. I'm tired of these exchanges with nemesis.

oh dear. you knw that BM will show up guilty no matter what do you? how? surely the mod didn't say that? Do you mean a miller would show up guilty no matter what?

Even if you were told by the mod that BM would show up guilty no matter what, this would confirm him as a miller, so why would we want him dead?

my vote stays on you

[WhoMe?]

n0 i didnt have an inv.

n1 i hit bm

bm is basically scum hiding behind a miller, so he ought to be vigged. kthx.

If you are telling truth about your role, and u got a guilty, then he is cult. Given that cult recruiter died N0, that seems unlikely, which would add weight to his actually being a miller, or am i missing something?

[WhoMe?]

n0 i didnt have an inv.

n1 i hit bm

bm is basically scum hiding behind a miller, so he ought to be vigged. kthx.

If you are telling truth about your role, and u got a guilty, then he is cult. Given that cult recruiter died N0, that seems unlikely, which would add weight to his actually being a miller, or am i missing something?

actually thats a good point, which i hadnt thought of. If Rosso is telling the truth, i cannot be conventional mafia. I must either be Miller or Cult.

BM

this is why I have been voting Rosso, it's not that I am sure of your alignment, but that I am sure Rosso's claim is odd.

[WhoMe?]

And I will make this point now. I will not be claiming today regardless of what farside does or does not post.

I will also say again. Farside can kill whosoever he chooses. We should not be guiding him and ending up with multiple claims per day. This can only benefit scum in their NK's

[WhoMe?]

The town effectively has 2 lynches... You are saying that asking the second person is just lynched without claiming.

It benefits the scum as much as claiming when people are L-1 does. If you believe the benefit to the town is not worth it, why claim when facing a lynch? If you do believe it is worth it, why not claim when you face being vigged?

Who says a vig has to kill every night? I thought they were only supposed to strike if they find someone scummy enough. And yes, this is usually without a claim.

[WhoMe?]

Well crap, the new jobs been draining me. Here I am.

when i die, please vig BM tonight and lynch XTom tomorrow. That is the word.

even though if you are town, i am confirmed town?

You really are stupid aren't you... >.>

BM

No, you're not.

It would add weight to his miller claim, though there would still be a chance that he wqas recruited into cult night 0

[WhoMe?]

*shrug*

why woudlnt i forget when i the cult recruiter died N0 too?

honeslty i threw one out randomly and got guilt on bm back. it sparked me.

.......

so meh, id rahter not e lynched, but ive given you all the brainpower i have. there are much better candidates than me in any case, and especially with a perfectly good PR claim. if i do die today, look hardat the people who just outright dismissed my claim right away please. theres your sucm.

What is this your excuse for forgetting - that BM had claimed Miller or that you had performed a N0 investigation, it's crap either way.

Secon - aperfectly dood PR role? I don't know how you can argue that claiming a guilty result on a claimed miller confirms you in any way. I could have claimed I had investigated BM and got a guilty, it proves nothing.

[WhoMe?]

that i had a n0. why would i remember if the cult was all dead.

OK, if the cult was all dead, why did you investigate a claimed miller N1? This would only make sense if you were trying to confirm him as a miller, but you followed up your guilty result with a vote, so this obviously wasn;t your intent. It makes no sense.

[WhoMe?]

When you claimed initially, I went to the wiki and read the miller entry and it just said that a guilty is returned whnever a Cop investigates. Why should this not apply to a Cult Cop?

[WhoMe?]

Why is everyone so obsessed with directing the vig? The vig can be trusted to know what he's doing. They've obviously been reading the thread so far.

QFT

because it benefits us to know who she intends to take a pop at.

BM

Here's a hypothetical, vig says I'm going to target X

X says don't do it, im the cop/doc/roleblocker etc

How precisely has this benefited town?

[WhoMe?]

Town doesnt lose a power role. Duh.
Next question?

BM

cos it's just that simple.

1. if they're telling truth mafia now know who to target

2. if they're lying, real PR may counterclaim and is then a mafia target

Why can't you see the part of this plan that gifts info to the mafia?

[WhoMe?]

Bm is starting to look scumming. If he is a hider I see no reason why he needs to know who Farside wants to vig and why he can't jsut hide behind her.

even more basic, as a claimed hider, he could just

not hide

and thus be a less likely target than anyone he chose to hide behind. BM is going up my scum charts at the moment.

[WhoMe?]

Whome, please answer the same question i posed to Andycyca.

BM

Easy answer, there was a NK last night, Lloyd was shotgunned, but I assume you mean why was there no scum NK last night so

1. Scum chose not to target anyone to mess with our heads - I don't see this as being likely, doesn't offer much advantage to scum so lets say 5%

2. Scum targeted someone who was doc protected - say 30% requires doctor and scum to target same person

3. scum trigger man was roleblocked say 60% only requires roleblocker to correctly get
4. scum tried to kill you but you were hiding - i see this as unlikely as it assumes a) you're telling the truth, and b) the scum would come after you, which I also see as unlikely as you were firmly on the town radar. lets say 5%

The %'s are pretty much pulled out my ass, but the scenarios are the only ones that I can come up with

[WhoMe?]

I think the chance is something more like ~90% scum killed F, and doc saved.

Possibly. The scum may be confident enough they're not on the radar, and the vig is just going to benefit them that they left her alone. But I take your point on board make it 60% doc save and 30% RB for last night in my pulled out of ass %'s

[WhoMe?]

BM you ain't confirmed so stop saying it.

He is right in saying that if Roso comes up Cult Cop, then BM can't be Mafia, but he could be cult or miller. which <> confirmed town by a long chalk.

[WhoMe?]

[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]

Unvote Vote: Rosso Carne

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I this a hammer I see before me it's handle pointing towards my hand?

[WhoMe?]

I'm also having trouble with the

BM

as scum bit. All because of his voluntary Miller claim on D1.

We know he cannot be mafia scum, because there is no way Rosso could have gotten a guilty on him if he was.

If he is cult and knew he was on D1, why would he have claimed at all? We all knew the recruiter was dead, so a lone cult member in a sea of people wouldn't be too worried about being found.

So I believe he was definitely a miller at the time he claimed, the hair in the soup tho, is was he the delayed recruit? As was pointed out upstream, this is unlikely (though it cannot be entirely ignored)

I cannot get behind a

BM

lynch today. I will look around for a better target and get back later.

[WhoMe?]

who's to say we will still have a vig closer to endgame? I agree with the plan for confirming you sooner rather than later.

[WhoMe?]

Is a good idea. Not sure using a vig on someone we definitely know is not in one group just to test the possibility that he's in the other is a good idea.

I think it's a good idea, as a confirmed townie BM will be invaluable. We will know not to lynch him, and his hiding ability will make it more difficult for scum groups with a NK to kill him. If on the other hand he is actually cult, then the vig kill will go through and we're downa scum. I don't see much of a downside here. If Farside had a solid lock on an actual scum, then I would say, sure, kill them first, but rather than risking offing another townie, confirming BM is a good choice.

[WhoMe?]

A confirmed BM will be dead, as he can't hide consecutive days.

Every time I turn around there is another facet to BM's role that I have missed. Right, that's it, I'm off to reread all BM's posts.

[WhoMe?]

A confirmed BM will be dead, as he can't hide consecutive days.

Where are you getting this "can't hide consecutive days" from?

So far, you have failed to make ANY valid scenarios in which i would be scum, asking the RB not to target me. You've proven your own case invalid. Unfortunately you've rolefished to the extent that i have to now fully-claim. I'm not just a Miller. I'm a Miller cum Hider.

Each night in order to protect myself, i can leave my house, and go stay with someone else

, so if i am targetted by scum, i dont die, but if they target the guy im hiding with, then we both die. If I get Roleblocked, i wont be able to hide, and will probably die...

Bolding mine, he says he can do it each night

[WhoMe?]

We're worried about a cultist, BM was guilty to the cult cop, we have a probable poisoner-cult, and we're not lynching BM.

In no way is BM the lynch for today. I would liek to see him vig targeted tonight, which would confirm him as a miller/hider if he survived, and would guarantee no blue on blue vig kill, a BM lynch would be nonsensical though.

[WhoMe?]

Again, where does it say

BM

can only hide alternate night. When he claimed he said he could hide each night. I quoted him on this upstream.

[WhoMe?]

TS, that's wrong - Townies have to trust people to be on their side, to win the game.

BM being found guilty by cult cop proves he isn't mafia.

You say you don't care about losing a townie just because he's a miller...I disagree. BM could be proven innocent from being cult here, which will be very useful.

QFT

BM would be a very valuable confirmed townie. We would know not to lynch hum, and his hiding makes it harder for the mafia to get him.

[WhoMe?]

I am still pro on testing BM, and cannot understand the level of anti-testophobia

vote TS

[WhoMe?]

Meh, testing BM now seems like a really bad idea to me. If he's a cult recruit killing people he is going to want to go for cross kills a bit, and the more I look at it the more I doubt scum would have killed animorph last night.

This post deserved putting in Bold, and being given a massive:

QFT

Are you serious? We shouldn't test you now, because if you are cult with a NK that is useful to town? Even if you do turn out to be some kind of tame scum we keep around for a while we need to know about it immediately. We might not be able to test you later.

[WhoMe?]

Meh, testing BM now seems like a really bad idea to me. If he's a cult recruit killing people he is going to want to go for cross kills a bit, and the more I look at it the more I doubt scum would have killed animorph last night.

This post deserved putting in Bold, and being given a massive:

QFT

Are you serious? We shouldn't test you now, because if you are cult with a NK that is useful to town? Even if you do turn out to be some kind of tame scum we keep around for a while we need to know about it immediately. We might not be able to test you later.

Don't throw that rolleyes at me young man . If you just meant the other bits, then just quote/bold the other bits. If you quote the entire post in bold with a big QFT, then we have to assume you mean ALL the bits.

I mean the other bits.

[WhoMe?]

Meh, testing BM now seems like a really bad idea to me. If he's a cult recruit killing people he is going to want to go for cross kills a bit, and the more I look at it the more I doubt scum would have killed animorph last night.

This post deserved putting in Bold, and being given a massive:

QFT

Are you serious? We shouldn't test you now, because if you are cult with a NK that is useful to town? Even if you do turn out to be some kind of tame scum we keep around for a while we need to know about it immediately. We might not be able to test you later.

I mean the other bits.

*sigh* EBWOP

Don't throw that rolleyes at me young man . If you just meant the other bits, then just quote/bold the other bits. If you quote the entire post in bold with a big QFT, then we have to assume you mean ALL the bits.

[WhoMe?]

Well, I read this as a request:

If you just meant the other bits, then just quote/bold the other bits. If you quote the entire post in bold with a big QFT, then we have to assume you mean ALL the bits.

and what I took as his reply is, the only part of the post he was QFTing was the BM shouldn't be tested bit, which is a bit really

[WhoMe?]

btw, Toaster Strudel has 4 votes on him. Mine is missing for some reason.

[WhoMe?]

To all those people opposing massclaim because there are many players left alive: why does that matter?

To Skitzer: Attacking dahill because he supports massclaim

without arguing against it yourself

is incredibly weak.

To CKDScum: Those were the lamest answers I've ever heard. Vote stands.

To Everyone Else: Vote for CKDScum with me. I'll throw together a case shortly. Stand by.

Pie, please do me a favour. Drop the whole 'CKD is the lynch' act. He's getting vigged tonight, lets just leave it at that, ok?

For now, the Dahill wagon needs you, and a case has already been posted. Please give as detailed thoughts as possible.

BM

Damn it, where did I miss the part where we are not testing you anymore?

[WhoMe?]

jesus christ..Lynching BM is a shitty idea...testing BM is a great idea. If for some off chance he really is a hider...he (gag) is an asset to us...

Mno, please explain why lynching BM is remotely close to a pro-town choice.

QFT, and I am tired of re-iterating this. And for those who say can't we just trust BM as confirmed without the test, the answer is

NO!

[WhoMe?]

I disagree. If we have a lock on a scum, we can lynch them. Only if we have a lock on 2 scumz would testing BM become a waste. I for one cannot point out 2 people I am even 90% sure are scum

[WhoMe?]

BM's will must be done....when bargaining and coming up with false ways to confirm himself are done, he simply force his will....ha!

BM, why are you so afraid of being tested? I have agreed to the wager..Farisde knows I have agreed to the wager...the entire town knows I agreed to the wager...if you can hide, and farside tests you, I will agree to the then...but the more you try to get out of it...the more I am certian.....

this is nearly sig-worthy. But, srsly-false ways to confirm myself? How do you suppose i would pull that off? lol

I repeat what i said to Whome. I will be confirmed tonight, and hopefully, you will be killed. Thats all you need to know for now.

BM

the way today is going even I hope I get killed tonight.....

OK in what way do you think you will be confirmed tonight without being vig targeted?

[WhoMe?]

...

OK in what way do you think you will be confirmed tonight without being vig targeted?

None of your business.

Then I am sticking with the test BM tonight meme

[WhoMe?]

The discussion is at a standstill because of you BM. You said you could prove something before night choices were due. I don't see how.
Don't be pissy because I wish the discussion to end and to move on. Reminder 3 days and 99 pages. I would hate to have more replacements.

Thank you Thank you Thank you.

Lets complete the TS lynch, see who does and doesnb't die durign the night, and we have enough posts for 6 data minign companies come tomorrow.

[WhoMe?]

Now, whether that is a good thing or not is a good question, leaves a lot of room for wiggle. But honestly his analysis felt town, and it seemed on the mark. Dahill is looking like #1 for me right now.

what do you think about Imat?

I hereby redirect this question to everyone in the game as well as Surye.

why dont you want to let Surye answer a question himself?

BM

all he said wa he wanted everyone else to answer it too. He never said Surye didn't have to or anything.

[WhoMe?]

10 more pages? no thanks

unvote vote dahill

[WhoMe?]

Whome is doing an excellent job of popping up just long enough to dispel suspicion, then disappearing again. We could do a lot worse.

and yet you're not willing to place a vote? I fully expct to gt lynchd today. I know I will come up town, but your reluctanc to place a vote evn though you seem to be advocating my lynch, makes me wonder if you know it too.

vote TheSweatpantsNinja

[WhoMe?]

like I said, I accept I am likely to be lynchd today. I find TSN's pushing of me

without voting

to look suspicious, and I just wantd to get that on record for tomorrow.

[WhoMe?]

I think I am likely to be lynched today because I seem to be appearing in a lot of scum lists. This is because I haven't been playing very well this game, having lost a lot of patience during the whole BM rolegate affair.

And as I make such a very good target, I am suspicious of TSN for saying he would like mw lynched, but not voting me. I have to think he doesn't want to be involved in what he knows will be a mislynch, how does he know? I think he's scum.

[WhoMe?]

Whome, why do you characterize yourself has playing badly and ending up on so many scum lists?

Basically I got lost. Way too many pages of circular logic. Digging for th truth is like looking for a jewl in a dungheap. As a result of my getting lost, my posts and votes have been less and less relevant, making me an easy target.

[WhoMe?]

whome, when did you stop keeping up with the thread? Before or after your vote on dahill?

My vote on dahill was prompted entirely by the 10 more pages thing. 10 more pages of that day and I would have needed a mental health professional. I wouldn't have minded if it was productive, but it had just become painful.

[WhoMe?]

i'm not voting armlx, i'm voting TSN

[WhoMe?]

oooooh Bippy the lying townie is back. Have you completed your detention?