Mini #553: Over!

[crazy_vlad]

I don't think Khelvaster is a scum; it would be too obvious and a much too simple play from the first post. though, some explaining won't heart

[crazy_vlad]

come on matt ...I'll start to think you have something against me
as you were the most active so far i have little suspicion on you..so I'm not answering in the same manner, not even with a fos. keep lookin'

[crazy_vlad]

what I don't like is that we have already 3 pages written down but with nothing consistent (except the mass claim of course) and just random votes.
if there is a vote not random, any vote, it should be explained.
someone will have to start a debate...
maybe someone sees something that slips to me...

[crazy_vlad]

I've read again all the posts. Khelvaster. your mass claim, in the first posts, in the first day, may have been well intended, but is has something fishy for me...
as there is no vote in present for you, and as I consider that we have to clarify that post - and to get to a clear conclusion whether you are or not oa bad guy, I'll give you my vote. it's not a final vote, it is an attention mark. that's all.

vote Khelvaster

[crazy_vlad]

at this point from my point of view, the good news is that we have a debate. the not so good news is that I'm even more confused.
Khelvaster, as I mentioned from the beginning my vote for you was just a question mark.
I've read your posts. what it still bothers me is that you did the mass claim right in the beginning....but I'm confused...
and what I still don't like is that a lot of of our lets say colleagues are not posting, making even harder to say who's who...
Khel, as you are not in immediate danger of being lynched, I won't remove my vote for you, at least not for now, but I'll have an eye for others.
again, a lot has being said, maybe you area townie and some of the bandwagon votes are from mafia, or maybe the mafia guys are not talking at all waiting just for a good moment to speed a lynch....and so on...

[crazy_vlad]

eljcko

just one question: why did you respond so quickly and so aggressive in defending destructor? there was just one vote on him...for me, your attitude is not the more proper one.
I would have expected this kind of attitude just in case ting was right and you were one of the scums.which I never thought so far. I'll wait for an answer..

[crazy_vlad]

mod

there are several players more absent than present in this game. it seems that ther are only 6 or 7 out of 12 in this game.
please send some prods as is difficult for me to say who's who in this game also I haven't seen yet a replacement for zycronium.

[crazy_vlad]

thanks

mod

I've come to some conclusion, but as 5 out of 12 are not here I think its quite risky for any judgments.
As for what's being said...I don't agree with a L-2 situation - the reason can be found right above. I started a debate mend to clarify whether Kel was or not a good guy. it seems now that he is of the hook, and replaced by Matt.
I've said in one of my first posts that I don't think Matt's a scum because he was very active when it would have been more easier - as a potential bad guy- to keep a low profile. I admit some of his moves were not maybe so inspired and I agree to put some of them into discuss. But as I didn't agree with a bandwagon on Khel, but just with a vote or two just to start a debate, I also don't agree with starting that one on Matt and right now on any of the 7 players (including me) who were in this game so far. From what I know maybe the bad guys are not among as. Maybe is just one, or maybe more. I don't know and again I won't rush in any judgments. So far, I've voted only once, as a first vote for Khelvaster. I've made my point: the debate was carried out even though there was no conclusion. At this moment I

Unvote

and I'll wait for messages from the 5 inactive players. Messages with some content. Not just hi and some bla blas.
Till we meet again...[/b]

[crazy_vlad]

I rest my case

[crazy_vlad]

eljcko

please read again my posts from page 5.
If you've started voluntary to do a votes count please do it correctly.
ty.
As it's pretty late I'll post some content. welcome imat.

[crazy_vlad]

my mistake

mod

please do the votes math correctly.

eljcko

I was pretty tired. sorry.
I'll come back with the content.

[crazy_vlad]

mod

in my post 116 from page 5
I wrote, in bold:

Unvote

. still, you didn't take it into consideration.
thanks.

[crazy_vlad]

After Replacements Vote Count!

Votes required:

7 to lynch

4, Matt_s

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Talitha, massive, Khelvaster, Coolbot,

1, Coolbot

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ting =)

Not Voting:

7, Imat, Qman, destructor, Petunho, Matt_S, eljcko, crazy_vlad

hopefully it will start to look like a game now

[crazy_vlad]

I've had some medical problems and I wasn't able to post lately.
I 've promised some content after the replacements' opinions.
I'll read back once again everything and I'll post today my opinion.

[crazy_vlad]

ok guys,
finally I've finished to read all the posts again
it's pretty hard to follow everything..
never the less>
so far there were 2 bandwagons
- on Khel and on Matt.
the more I've read the more I was sure none of them should get lynched;
it would be a easy play to join the bandwagon on Matt, but I'm not buying it.
a new bandwagon started on Coolbot
coolbot - I have to say that's something I don't like about you're posts, perhaps the fact that you jumped from one bandwagon to another. also it stroke me how imat cleared you're name and rerouted the discussion to matt. once again I'm not defending matt, but as I've said in one of my previous posts I encouraged vots as a form to start debates not to put pressure just on some player (Khel or Matt)- especially as we didn't have a deadline. If I've learned something so far is to not rush into conclusions. things aren't always what they seem to be.
eljcko - maybe you were all good intended but you 've switch you're votes so many times that I lose the track.
destructor - very modest presence, very little comments, no personal vision no nothing...no good for the town.
talitha - thanks for the concern, I appreciate it. anyway, as a new comer, you've read all the posts, and didn't come with no new suspicion, no several options - you've just jump on a bandwagon, pushing for a lynch...
there are also other players in the game but right now I'm not having any more comments for them.
I am still confused. I think I'd print the hole discussion when I'll get back to work,just to have a easier track of the way things developed.
any of the ones mentioned above are on my suspects list (including Matt, minus Khel), but as there is no deadline I won't vote.

[crazy_vlad]

talitha: I prefer to miss out all the dragggging out of nothing and just head straight to the lynching of the hapless townie (or the hapless scum, if we get lucky.)

really?

FOS talitha

[crazy_vlad]

guys this day is taking already to long to follow for me.
today I'll post my final vote for day1
I'll try to read once again what's being said so far
anyway at this point I'm not sure on a vote, but I just can't stand to read much more on this day.

[crazy_vlad]

ok I have three names on my final list. talitha, eljcko, coolbot.
the reasons were explained in my previous posts.
I'll sleep on the present list and announce my decision.

[crazy_vlad]

ok. I've promised a vote.

vote talitha

[crazy_vlad]

@ ting =) please reread my post 188. reread also carefully the messages of the initial person which has been replaced by her.
I have to admit that I still have some suspicions on eljcko and cool bot, but I had to make a choice, and listen in the end my intuition. I'm not trying to start a new bandwagon. everyone must think for himself. but I really don't have the nerves to be blocked in this day for long. too many have been said and its already very difficult to make a choice.
I pushed for debates and I opposed to L-2 lynching situations but at least for me this day is already taking to long.
If in the end most of you will go for eljcko lets say I change my vote because I also have some suspicion in that direction. But for now I'm ok with it.

[crazy_vlad]

this game has started at the end of january
its mid march. in this rhythm it will take us more than 1 year to finish the game

mod

please pick a deadline for this day
otherwise please look for someone to replace me.
ty.