Mini 219: Tom Cruise Mafia -- It's a Wrap!

[Astronaut]

What exactly seemed at odds with my usual behaviour?

Well, my main problem is that for once, I disagree with you. Usually in the games I've participated in/read through where you've been pro-town, I've been impressed by your scum-finding abilities. You might be right this time as well, but I'm not getting the "Oh my god Seol's just made a great point wow he must be a genius"-feel I've had elsewhere.

What I didn't like with your post with is that I think you're a bit hard on the newbies, and also the coach Tally seems a bit far-fetched.

All of this wouldn't normally add up to more than a FOS, but since it's day 1 I threw in a vote.

[MeMe]

Current Count

:

Johnny, Combo Player

(3):

inHimshallibe, Fuldu, Seol

inHimshallibe

(2):

Talitha, Dragon Phoenix

Astronaut

(1):

Johnny Combo Player

WindSlicer

(1):

Phoebus

Seol

(1):

Astronaut

Not voting (2):

halfpint, WindSlicer

Six to lynch

[Phoebus]

Oh my Astro.
You're going to spend all your time playing Mafia with Seol around, hanging on to his tailcoats? I mean - I know what you mean but people have off days.
I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying you might not necessarily be right.
It probably reflects on Seol if you're right about this...

[Astronaut]

I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying you might not necessarily be right.

This goes for pretty much everything I say. Of course I might be wrong.

[Johnny, Combo Player]

Whoa. Everyone seems to want me dead. Oh well. That's what I get for voting after Talitha said that she hates non voters. Oh well. Now, to defend myself the best I can.

I have no idea why Talitha signalled me out, perhaps shes mafia, trying to get me lynched, so when I turn up citizen, she doesn't look particularly scummy.

Another thing that strikes me as odd is that she said that her statement did what she wanted. Does she want me lynched? Probably.

So, I will

Unvote, Vote:Talitha

, because she seems scummiest to me.

[Dragon Phoenix]

Stop moving the bandwagon around!

unvote inhimshallibe
vote Johnny, Combo Player

he was my first choice anyway.

[Phoebus]

Here's your cue to claim, Jonny!

Or are we just cancelling this production?

*sigh*

Note for future reference - A bandwagon has formed to the extent where a claim might be useful, without a single vote issued at all from WindSlicer.

He may not be guilty. Jonny might be scum. But yeah - for future reference.

Since Jonny's claimed "citizen" already, do we want a name for posterity's sake? Or should I just vote him?

[Astronaut]

Since Jonny's claimed "citizen" already, do we want a name for posterity's sake? Or should I just vote him?

It's much more fun to lynch someone when you know their name, isn't it?

[WindSlicer]

Ok, yeah.

I just want to dedicate ths post to maybe getting to know me a tad bit better. It was brought to my attention that my actions may be considered a little deceptive. Just a note: I haven't been deceptive at all, I'm just trying to find a playstyle, but unsure of where to start. Ok, anyways, the reason why I might be accused of being deceptive is because all that most of you know of me is the stuff that I've done on the forum (i.e. really nothing, this is my first actual game). But I've played in a number of games on scumchat, so I know the gist of the game - what the roles are for, what common tells are, how to act in certain situations. Which may not be what you think of me as.

Although I do get the game and how it works, and all of that, I believe that forum mafia is totally different than mafia in a chat-related environment, which is why I didn't think of telling ya'll that I had some background experience. I don't know why, I just feel very apprehensive about bringing up information about others, I think I'm going to try to start doing it whether I feel good about it or not or else I'll probably end up being lynched because I'm not doing anything to help the town currently.

So yeah, my online name is 'coolcam2433' for those who didn't know. I just felt that if someone thought I might be being a little deceptive, I might as well just go out and tell everyone so at the end of the game I wouldn't be accused of deception.

Well, I hope everything came out understandable, and if you have any questions feel free to ask. Now I'm going to reread over the game and see if I can find anything that hasn't been brought up so far.

[Johnny, Combo Player]

Do I really have to roleclaim? It would hurt the town quit a bit. But if a majority of the town decides that I should claim, I will.

[WindSlicer]

Ok, it took a while, but I went through the thread and outlined actions of everybody (mainly so I could get a look at everyone singled out, and since i wrote it all down on paper I figured I might as well just type it up)

DP = Dragon Phoenix ; WS = WindSlicer

Astronaut

*vote DP (random)
*unvoted DP (to end bandwagon)
- some thought it was suspicious he unvoted DP
*vote inHim (scummy post #25)
*unvote, vote: Seol (post#93 odd that he ended voting a newbie and IGMEOY a newbie)

Dragon Phoenix

*vote: Seol (random)
*unvote, vote: WS (scummy lurking)
*unvote, vote: Johnny (b/c Johnny had no reason to vote him and was 3rd on wagon)
- Johnny: inexperienced scum?
- would vote WS, but Johnny > WS for scumminess
*unvote, vote: inHim (Johnny-wagon going nowhere)
*unvote, vote Johnny ("he was my first choice anyway")

Fuldu

*says the handgun shot from night 1 kill was from Vincent in Collateral
*vote: Johnny (posts are scummy)

Halfpint

*no random vote
*Talitha & Johnny = suspicious = candidates for scum
*vote: WS (inactive)
- find odd that he has nothing to add
*unvote, vote: inHim (suspicious)
*unvote: inHim (wants to hear from inHim)
- eventually concludes inHim is not scummy atm

inHim

*vote: Johnny (random)
- thinks Johnny is purposely bandwagoning
*people think that his #25 post is scummy, he doesn't know why
*FOS: Talitha (weird interaction with Johnny)
- sticks to his vote on Johnny
-Talitha = OMGUS
- WS may be scum
- Seol change in style?

Johnny

*vote: DP (random?)
*unvote: DP ("if you want I will UNVOTE: ")
- "how many mafia members are in normal game?"
*"I am not newbie, but this is first game I am not mafia"
*Vote: Astronaut ("I'll just vote Astronaut for now. Likely to change.")
*Unvote, vote: Talitha (she seems scummy to me)
*"Should i roleclaim?"

Phoebus

*Vote Fuldu (random/Fuldu suggested a possible mafia role name)
* Investigates motivator role
*Unvote, vote: Astronaut (b/c of joking unvote)
*Unvote, vote WindSlicer ("Talk.")
- "Thank you for being so productive! Die."
- "WS hasn't voted recently.. scummy?"
- "Johnny claimed citizen, should I just vote him?"

Seol

*Vote: Halfpint (random)
-Uncovered another meaning of 'motivator'
-Suspicious of Astro's unvote
*Unvote, vote: Astro (questions questioning of his post #25 ; scummy posting)
-asks WS if he should be voting DP (WS then unvotes)
-Astro - not scummiest
-inHim - not scummy
-Johnny - scummiest
-WS - awkward newbie (not scummies)
*Unvote, vote: Johnny
*IGMEOY: WS

Talitha

*Vote: Astronaut (random)
*Unvote, vote Johnny (no real reason)
- happy w/ vote on Johnny
- "Is Johnny new or scummy?"
- inHim is second behind Johnny
*Unvote, vote: inHim ("this is as good as any other")
- sticking w/ my inHim vote.. he's not talking once spotlight is gone
- "Do you really think I'm coaching Johnny in the middle of the thread?"

WindSlicer

*Doesn't post until prompted
*Vote: DP (random)
*Inactive...
*Unvote; DP (no real reason to vote him in first place)
- WS says he might not post until he finds info
- apprehensive about posting
- WS comes out willing to help town


I tried to post reflecting everyone's feelign in chronological order under their name (names arranged in alphabetical order) If anything I wrote is wrong, feel free to post a change. Hope this helps at least a little

[WindSlicer]

After reading it all over, it looks like Johnny is really suspicious, I mean his posts just don't feel right. But after thinking it over, I think it's just the fact that he is new, so he's not getting my vote right now.

When reading it all over, Fuldu caught my eye for having hardly no post content, but not being called out on it. So I'll go for it.

vote: Fuldu

[inHimshallibe]

Now that's what we like to see. It's just that... you didn't vote Johnny .

[Phoebus]

From-

I have no idea why Talitha signalled me out, perhaps shes mafia, trying to get me lynched,

so when I turn up citizen,

she doesn't look particularly scummy.

(emphasis mine)

To-

Do I really have to roleclaim?

It would hurt the town quit a bit

. But if a majority of the town decides that I should claim, I will.

(again, mine)

When one says citizen or civilian, to me it sounds like townie.
If you have a use, you're usually pro town.
Don't like it much.

He did say this-

I am not a newbie, but this happens to be my first game in which I was not mafia. So, sadly, I know not how to act other than "don't lie" and don't roleclaim.

- which is neither here nor there. From having decided not to role claim, to being open (but reluctant) to it...just rubs me the wrong way. The part in quotation marks is not helpful either...

[Johnny, Combo Player]

Where are the quotation marks?

[Talitha]

Hmmm... is it just me or does that post of Astro's( "It's much more fun to lynch someone when you know their name, isn't it?") imply that he thinks that Johnny would claim his real name, and therefore he thinks that Johnny is town.

[Talitha]

The quotation marks were around 'don't lie'.

[Astronaut]

Hmmm... is it just me or does that post of Astro's( "It's much more fun to lynch someone when you know their name, isn't it?") imply that he thinks that Johnny would claim his real name, and therefore he thinks that Johnny is town.

Well, if I thought Johnny were town, I wouldn't want him to claim in the first place. My post was only to say that I think it would be wise to get a claim from him before we decide to lynch him.

[Seol]

Do I really have to roleclaim?

It would hurt the town quit a bit

. But if a majority of the town decides that I should claim, I will.

Would it hurt the town more than lynching you without hearing a claim?

[halfpint]

Wow this is tough. I'm having a hard time trying to parse through everyone here. The only thing I feel like I have a fairly good read on is that inHim is pro-town. So, for the near future, I can't see me voting for anyone else.

I think that I would like to hear more from Johnny.

[WindSlicer]

I urge Fuldu to post a bit more.

You have only made 5 posts, and each of those consisted of only 1 line of pretty useless material.

[Johnny, Combo Player]

As i said before, I will not roleclaim unless a majority of the town wants me to. It hurts the town. Either I die today, or I die tonight. Either way, I'm not happy.

[inHimshallibe]

That's fine. Vote stays.

[WindSlicer]

My vote will most likely (unless Fuldu suddenly says something super-mafia like) change to Johnny, but not until Fuldu starts contributing.

[Fuldu]

Well, given a non-claim like that, I'm pretty sure I know what the claim's going to be and I imagine scum do as well. If that's the case, then it's almost certainly better for you to die tonight than to die today. I think the claim is probably to help more than hurt at this point.