Mini 455 - Mafia in Theoville - Game Over who won?

[MeMe]

vote: Guardian

You heard me.

[YagamiLight]

Hey guys! It's been a month but I still get really excited at the start of games . I hope this one is enjoyable for everyone!

The games I have been in all are really active and got out of the random stages early... I take complete credit for this . Let's hope that happens here, too.

Voting for MeMe is tempting as in my opinion her name just begs to be voted for, but I wouldn't want to start a wagon on the likely best player if she is town .

Also, if I was into random OMGUSing, I would vote YagamiLight. I am not though - sorry for taking your number!

YogurtBandit raises a very good question, Streeflo, how is YB's random vote at all good content and worthy of switching a random vote?

vote: Streeflo

seems as good a place as any to start.

Come on people, let's find the scum .

Yay he said sorry for taking my number... Your forgiven.

unvote

Now my next vote wont be random, when I decide who to vote for.

[NanookTheWolf]

Unvote: Dogmom

.. and

Vote: Streeflo

I've read some posts now, and I think Streeflo is a great candidate based on Guardian's logic. Along with a bit of my own detective work.

[NanookTheWolf]

Maybe Guardian's logic wasn't the best choice of words .. Considering he didn't really state any in the thread ..

This is just one of them things, you know?

[MeMe]

Yeah...I think I'm getting the picture.

Rusty, Nanook?

[NanookTheWolf]

Hey you take your route, and I'll take mine .. Maybe my gears are loosening up for some old time sake.

[Adel]

unvote: meme

hmmm, now I need a less than random reason. Ah, got it.

Vote:Guardian

[Erotomachia]

Less than random? What would that be?

[Nanosauromo]

Hmm, Nanook changes his vote to match Gaurdian's "logic," or lack thereof. Seems a bit scummy.

My vote stands.

[Nanosauromo]

Especially without Streeflo acting scum-like at all.

(sorry for forgetting to inclued that in my above post)

[YagamiLight]

Now getting serious...
Nanook In post 27 you said you weren't voting on only Guadian's logic, but your own detective work(though in 28 you say not at all on his logic). Can you explain why you think Streeflo is scummy, as I don't see any reason.

[Guardian]

Being at lynch -1 at lyol and having to convince the town that even though you played scummy all game your wagon is all scum and that you aren't the play: no pressure.
Being (random?) voted by MeMe: had I seen that before I went to sleep last night I don't think I would have xD.

Yay he said sorry for taking my number... Your forgiven.

Thanks YagamiLight .

Less than random? What would that be?

Adel, is your reason for voting me that I use smiley faces? Is it my page one vote? Are you just following MeMe? Please do tell.

Nanook, I get what you mean, I didn't explicitly state my logic but it was pretty obvious. I got a lot of suspicion in another game for making a joke vote day one though, and I felt that it was completely unwarranted. After waking up, I can see the humor there... It's not like I'm sure Streeflo is scum, but I think there is legitimate reason to be suspicious of that unvote and it is still as good a vote as any at the time being.

[Streeflo]

Nanook, I get what you mean, I didn't explicitly state my logic but it was pretty obvious. I got a lot of suspicion in another game for making a joke vote day one though, and I felt that it was completely unwarranted. After waking up, I can see the humor there... It's not like I'm sure Streeflo is scum, but I think there is

legitimate reason to be suspicious of that unvote

and it is still as good a vote as any at the time being.

And what would these legitimate reasons be?

[Adel]

Adel, is your reason for voting me that I use smiley faces? Is it my page one vote? Are you just following MeMe? Please do tell.

It had more to do with other players dropping your name into a sentence containing the word "logic."

Logic=Scum. [/joke]

Seriously, I think I picked up on a scumtell, and I'm waiting for a repeat or three before I present it to everyone else.

Dogmom hasn't posted yet. Odd. She is usually good for a few hundred words a day. If I didn't have my vote tied up in something that may (slight but non-zero chance) prove significant, I would put a vote on her to encourage her to leave the lurk.

[theopor_COD]

Votecount 1

Guardian 2 - MeMe, Adel
Streeflo 2 - Guardian, NanookTheWolf
Nekka-Lucifer 2 - YogurtBandit, ChaosOmega
ChaosOmega 1 - Erotomachia
Erotomachia 1 - Streeflo
NanookTheWolf 1 - Nanosauromo

Not voting - Nekka-Lucifer, DogMom, YagamiLight

[DogMom]

Adel, is your reason for voting me that I use smiley faces? Is it my page one vote? Are you just following MeMe? Please do tell.

It had more to do with other players dropping your name into a sentence containing the word "logic."

Logic=Scum. [/joke]

Seriously, I think I picked up on a scumtell, and I'm waiting for a repeat or three before I present it to everyone else.

Dogmom hasn't posted yet. Odd. She is usually good for a few hundred words a day. If I didn't have my vote tied up in something that may (slight but non-zero chance) prove significant, I would put a vote on her to encourage her to leave the lurk.

Sorry, RL caught up to me and whacked me in the back of the head with a busyboard yesterday.
Like to hear your scumtell / reasoning, by the way, IME voting someone for "good reasons" but not articulating them is rather suspicious.

And since voting is Teh Kool in RandomStage:

Vote:Adel

for the non-expressed Good Reasons.

[Adel]

Dogmom: glad you made it.

There is this thread in the forums, started by Guardian of all people,
Revealing WHY you think someone is scum that changed my views on a couple of things. Now I don't believe in the immediate reveal, even though there is the risk of seeming scummy.

[Adel]

EBWOP:
Revealing WHY you think someone is scum

next time I'll hit preview

[Guardian]

Streeflo, the legitimate reasons are twofold. In your second post you made no indication that you were joking. Then, you accepted a random vote as "good content". I don't believe that a town member would, in seriousness, accept a random vote as good content at all. You then claimed later that that post was a joke... which it may well have been, but if it was not made with a joking intent and you saying it was a joke was merely a coverup later, accepting YB's rather insubstantial post as a reason to unvote him shows that you don't really care where your vote is. That being said... you may well have been joking. Just because this came up on the first page of the game doesn't mean that I am going to discard it completely, however - all posts a player makes are important.

Adel, it's interesting that you brought up that thread posted by me. I am still not sure how I feel on the subject; it is appealing to not provide reasons in some senses, but it seems very bad in others. In this case, for example, you could just wait for me to post a few more times, look for something in common between the posts, and point it out as being scummy. In fact, that is pretty much what you said you were going to do, in less words. Then you said that the chance of this actually happening was slight. Being actively suspicious is great, but you are not giving me or anyone else much to go on.

I think voting without providing a reason is OK, but not providing a reason when one is asked for makes the vote seem quite arbitrary, especially when you say that you had a good reason for the vote.

[YogurtBandit]

vote Nekka-Lucifer

I just realized, that I had voted nekka-lucifer as well. This could have been a Bandwagoning act, because I think if the vote was random, he would have stated it. Of course, It could have just been Random, but I dont like to take chances, and having a random vote bugs me.

Unvote , Vote: ChaosOmega

[NanookTheWolf]

Coultn't sleep at all, so I thought I'd post. Often, ChaosOmega, new scum will just vote without saying anything, like you did. People might get suspicious of you for that (I am a wee bit); I think it's better to just say that your vote is random in the future so people don't have a reason to jump on. My 1/50 of a dollar .

Originally Guardian voted for Streeflo .. then he posted the above. Maybe it was a mistake, maybe it was planned to help him later in the game, who knows .. but the above post includes my reasoning.

[Erotomachia]

Of course, It could have just been Random, but I dont like to take chances, and having a random vote bugs me.

Unvote , Vote: ChaosOmega

So you remove your random vote from someone who's at 2 votes to put another random vote on someone else, who is now also at 2 votes? That doesn't make any sense to me. In fact, it's pretty contradictory.

[YogurtBandit]

Of course, It could have just been Random, but I dont like to take chances, and having a random vote bugs me.

Unvote , Vote: ChaosOmega

So you remove your random vote from someone who's at 2 votes to put another random vote on someone else, who is now also at 2 votes? That doesn't make any sense to me. In fact, it's pretty contradictory.

Yes, but at least my vote had a reason, whilst yours did not.

[Guardian]

YogurtBandit, by yours, do you mean ChaosOmega's? Or do you mean Ertomachia's vote on ChaosOmega?

Nanook, the logic "if you are random voting, then say so" can most definitely be applied to Streeflo, but I did mean for it to apply to ChaosOmega's posts at the time.

[Erotomachia]

Of course, It could have just been Random, but I dont like to take chances, and having a random vote bugs me.

Unvote , Vote: ChaosOmega

So you remove your random vote from someone who's at 2 votes to put another random vote on someone else, who is now also at 2 votes? That doesn't make any sense to me. In fact, it's pretty contradictory.

Yes, but at least my vote had a reason, whilst yours did not.

Really? So what is your reason for voting for ChaosOmega?

I admit that mine was random, as I stated on the first page.