Mini 455 - Mafia in Theoville - Game Over who won?
-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
Yay! A Compliment!Guardian wrote:Hey guys! It's been a month but I still get really excited at the start of games . I hope this one is enjoyable for everyone!
The games I have been in all are really active and got out of the random stages early... I take complete credit for this . Let's hope that happens here, too.
Voting for MeMe is tempting as in my opinion her name just begs to be voted for, but I wouldn't want to start a wagon on the likely best player if she is town .
Also, if I was into random OMGUSing, I would vote YagamiLight. I am not though - sorry for taking your number!
, Streeflo, how is YB's random vote at all good content and worthy of switching a random vote?YogurtBandit raises a very good question
vote: Streefloseems as good a place as any to start.
Come on people, let's find the scum .
-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
Sounds good to me.Streeflo wrote:
Cmon guys, it's day 1. Do we really need to go over what happens on Day 1 again?Guardian wrote: YogurtBandit raises a very good question, Streeflo, how is YB's random vote at all good content and worthy of switching a random vote?
It was a joke. I previously voted YB for "lurking" and then unvoted him once he responded. You know? Good content. Haha, hilarious. I know.-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
I just realized, that I had voted nekka-lucifer as well. This could have been a Bandwagoning act, because I think if the vote was random, he would have stated it. Of course, It could have just been Random, but I dont like to take chances, and having a random vote bugs me.ChaosOmega wrote:vote Nekka-Lucifer
Unvote , Vote: ChaosOmega-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
Yes, but at least my vote had a reason, whilst yours did not.Erotomachia wrote:
So you remove your random vote from someone who's at 2 votes to put another random vote on someone else, who is now also at 2 votes? That doesn't make any sense to me. In fact, it's pretty contradictory.YogurtBandit wrote:Of course, It could have just been Random, but I dont like to take chances, and having a random vote bugs me.
Unvote , Vote: ChaosOmega-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
That good enough for Proof?YogurtBandit wrote:
I just realized, that I had voted nekka-lucifer as well. This could have been a Bandwagoning act, because I think if the vote was random, he would have stated it. Of course, It could have just been Random, but I dont like to take chances, and having a random vote bugs me.ChaosOmega wrote:vote Nekka-Lucifer
Unvote , Vote: ChaosOmega
yes Guardian, I meant E's vote on CO.-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
Because, As Guardian stated, Voting without saying anything is a Scumtell. So a Bandwagon + a Scumtell = Vote.Streeflo wrote:
You're way overthinking a random vote. How could I have suspicions in any possibly way on Day 1?Guardian wrote:Streeflo, the legitimate reasons are twofold. In your second post you made no indication that you were joking. Then, you accepted a random vote as "good content". I don't believe that a town member would, in seriousness, accept a random vote as good content at all. You then claimed later that that post was a joke... which it may well have been, but if it was not made with a joking intent and you saying it was a joke was merely a coverup later, accepting YB's rather insubstantial post as a reason to unvote him shows that you don't really care where your vote is. That being said... you may well have been joking. Just because this came up on the first page of the game doesn't mean that I am going to discard it completely, however - all posts a player makes are important.
I don't understand, what exactly are you worried about? He's at Lynch-5.YogurtBandit wrote:
I just realized, that I had voted nekka-lucifer as well. This could have been a Bandwagoning act, because I think if the vote was random, he would have stated it. Of course, It could have just been Random, butChaosOmega wrote:vote Nekka-LuciferI dont like to take chances, and having a random vote bugs me.
Unvote , Vote: ChaosOmega
@Adel: Hope to hear from you soon.
Unvote;until further notice.[color=red]├é┬Ñ├é┬░gůřť├â┼©├â┬Ñň├â-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
Have I really been Patting you on the back that much? I thought that through all the games Im in with you, I might have been doing it too much, but not so much this game...Guardian wrote: It is more than a little fishy that YB has been patting me on the back so heavily... I like you, mate, but you have no reason at this point to be following me so closely .
Adel, Your Vote web looks intresting.So far no Omgus votes,Only some canceled. The most someone's ever been voted is 2 votes (-5 lynch). Looks like noise. If you throw in the votes after that, its still kind of noisy..[color=red]├é┬Ñ├é┬░gůřť├â┼©├â┬Ñň├â-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
I think he meant NK, Like he's sure hes going to be Nk'ed..DogMom wrote:
Nekka, can you clarify what you're saying here? I'm getting that Guardian wouldn't agree with Nanook to set up the "cop" scenario if both of them were mafia because...um...if who dies what happens?Nekka-Lucifer wrote:Hey everyone, sorry again, I was going to vote at the start somewhere but I had to close off quickly...
Anyway, I would like to bring this up...
If he was mafia, he wouldn't agree (Guardian) because if he dies, he loses... Is that an honest sacrifice he wishes to make... Also, if something comes up on his NK (If there is one) then I have a suspicion...Adel wrote:
If you took offense to my "Rusty?" comment, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to insult you, it was just a rhetorical flourish.NanookTheWolf wrote:
What's with the attack there Adel? First off just let me state that I don't care if you're a newbie or not .. It's not an excuse for ever being scummy as you put it. My vote was more out of confusion then it was tactful, and why do claim being scummy?
...
I made a mistake by exposing the cop, but honestly it's not something that I would do as scum, but instead keep to myself until the night hit. Maybe you should blame Guardian for outing himself, I just happened to catch on to it is all.
Seeing you do what I was doing made me realize how scummy it was. Realizing that I was engaging in an activity that was anti-town I posted mymea culpa.
I wasn't blaming you for outing Guardian, I was considering the possibility that you are scum with Guardian and outing him is part of a brilliant ploy to remove both of you from consideration as scum. If this is the case then he gets to role-claim without us wondering why he role-claimed, and after he investigates he gets to clear a scum partner.
You did nothing to address this accusation. Hey, it may only be a wild conjecture, but the way in which you used "If I were Mafia" as a counter-factual strikes me as being scummy.
Could someone more experienced analyse my hypothesis? I can't wrap my head around what the odds of if being true are.
And may I ask what kind of suspicion you would have if there's a Night Kill? Honestly the only way I can understand your post here is to assume you meantSerialKillerinstead of "mafia".
Maybe it's just because it's early on Monday Morning. I dunno.[color=red]├é┬Ñ├é┬░gůřť├â┼©├â┬Ñň├â-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
There is always the possiblity of there being 2 Cops / 2 Docs.YagamiLight wrote:
Neither do I, but the purpose of breadcrumbing is to hide it for later when needed.Nekka-Lucifer wrote:One FINALDIPEEDAPEEDOSEY one... (lol) I don't see any hidden Docs
I think this is probably like a c9 setup like I said earlier, and we have 12 people. 3 are scum, so there are 9 townies. We have a pretty good chance that there is a doc out there listening, but if we don't then the cop will probably be NK'ed tonight or the next.
Think. 3 Scum, 9 townies. 3 Scum, 1 Cop, 8 Townies. 3 Scum, 1 Cop, 1 Doc, 7 Townied. 3 Scum, 2 Cop, 1 Doc, 6 Townie. 3 Scum, 1 Cop, 2 Doc, 6 Townie. 3 Scum, 2 Cop, 2 Doc, 5 Townie. The chances that we have at least 1 Cop and 1 Doc are good, Assuming this is the way its setup ( It could also be like 3 Scum, 4 Cop, 0 Doc, 5 Townie, But I dont think so. )[color=red]├é┬Ñ├é┬░gůřť├â┼©├â┬Ñň├â-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
Ah I get it.Adel wrote:I think her vote is based upon your actions not being very pro-town since you haven't added much.Ifthat is her reasoning (I am not a mind reader) I am calling her a hypocrite because she hasn't added much either. Hence the joke. The dry joke. The unfunny joke. Oh well.[color=red]├é┬Ñ├é┬░gůřť├â┼©├â┬Ñň├â-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
Yeah, Nanook did go a little overboard there. Its not something pepole would normally look at, Its almost as if they had planned it, but I think it could just be Nanook being creative. The way Nanook said that Guardian had claimed cop in that post is kind of weird, because he never actually claimed it.Nanosauromo wrote:I've been confused as to where this whole "cop roleclaim" thing came from, so I read back through the thread and found this, the post where it all began?
Excuse me, but, WTF? It seems like Nanook is reading into things a bitNanookTheWolf wrote:
Originally, I thought to myself that Guardian was completely foolish for doing such a thing on the first page of this game .. I don't know why people think it's a great Idea to claim something so early on, especially the supposed 'cop'.Guardian wrote:Coultn't sleep at all, so I thought I'd post.Often, ChaosOmega, new scum will just vote without saying anything, like you did.People might get suspicious of you for that (I am a wee bit); I think it's better to just say that your vote is random in the future so people don't have a reason to jump on. My 1/50 of a dollar .toomuch. I still think Nanook and Gaurdian are both mafia. Nanook's "ousting" of Gaurdian as an important pro-town role (to help ensure his survival) ties into their voting together. Nanook's looking scummer by the minute. (Or hour, whatever.)[color=red]├é┬Ñ├é┬░gůřť├â┼©├â┬Ñň├â-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
I still dont think Guardian is Cop. He must be scum. He's claiming cop so early and he gets away with it and now the Doc is protecting him?(Assuming there is one) Its seems like a way to keep the doc from protecting town. If the doc protects the scum, All Guardian needs to know is who the doc is, then the doc gets Nk'ed, Then the real Cop the next night!! If we lynch town two in a row, and two nks in a row, its oh... 5 to 3. At Day 3 it could be a LyLo Sitiuation If we Lynch the real Cop today, I can tell you Guardian is Scum. Im willing to die/be lynched to prove Guardian is not the Cop. You all are probably going to think Im kidding, but Im not. Nanook claims cop for Guardian, Then Guardian is suddenly cop with full doc protection. I feel bad for the doc right now, because they will be gone by the time the Second Twilight comes around. And its all because Guardian is going to lead you all off course.
Unvote , Vote: Guardian[color=red]├é┬Ñ├é┬░gůřť├â┼©├â┬Ñň├â-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
I'd like to see Adel respond to that.Guardian wrote:Adel: Well, from all the games I've been in so far, and not one of them having any activity problems - in fact most of them people comment surprisedly about how ridiculously active the game is, while my play may have (many?) other problems I don't think it can been seen as a participation suppressor.
It got you to respond immediately didn't it? I don't have experience playing to back this up, but from reading games, scum squirm when targeted, whereas townies explain why their actions are founded and look for who the real scum might be. That last post reeks of the former and has nothing of the latter; you even present an explanation of why it is good to lurk... which it isn't...
I am not gunning for you, specifically, I am gunning for all people I see as likely scum candidates, especially when they post more scummy things.[color=red]├é┬Ñ├é┬░gůřť├â┼©├â┬Ñň├â-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
Well, I was planning on claiming later, but I guess I kind of did. I do not know my sanity, and Im guessing you dont either. Hopefully one of us is Insane, so we can actually make use of it. I dont think the Mafia will kill us until our sanity is known. I said I didnt care If I got Lynched as Cop. Know that there is the possibiltiy of there being two cops, I almost would claim, because If theres only one, and the cop gets killed, the other is scum. However, If I were to be Lynched, We dont know, but I would definetly Fos you Guardian, If I got Lynched and turned up Cop(Well, I f I was alive. Say someone else is cop, lets just call them Bob. Bob gets lynched as Cop, and Bill claims cop as well, Bill would get a FOS.) Anyways, If I dont get Lynched, Then the Mafia must choose between me and Guardian. Again though, Whoever doesnt get killed, will get a FOS. Its a very tough bind we are both in. Anyone who votes us, as you said, will be suspicous, yet, not so, since we could be lying. Its very confusing, and there are a million diffrent ways we could possibly do things. I think we do have 2 cops. Well, The doc should protect one of us at night. Who, I dont care, as long as one makes it into the morning to explain their findings. If its a guilty finding, They could always be Paranoid, Or Insane. Its very befuddling on everyones mind. A Quote from the Wiki:
This tells us nothing, and that gives us much more mystery. But, its nothing we should worry about. Right now, we should worry about Lynching Scum. Hey, If we Lynch one today, and both cops get a Guilty, We could have a 3 day Town win.(Again considering the Mafia do not kill us both nights) Docs, If you are out there, protect who you think is more protown tonight. Just protect one of us.Wiki wrote:All variant sanities are uncommon in Mini Games or other situations with just one Cop in the game.
When a Game Moderator uses these roles, the player receiving the role is usually only told his/her role is Cop. Sometimes sanity is revealed upon death, but frequently not, leading to ambiguity if a Cop is killed early in the game.[color=red]├é┬Ñ├é┬░gůřť├â┼©├â┬Ñň├â-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
Hah! Im not investigating you! Im investigating someone else, some one I think is Scummy.I do think you are, but I also think you are Cop, So I'll save that one for later.Guardian wrote:YB's claim brings this to light. For example, say we decide that any potential doc will target me tonight, and I will investigate YB, and he will investigate me. That means that if YB is town he is likely dead tonight, because the scum will know that he is not protected. I would get an almost useless investigation, and a cop would be dead. If YB is mafia, he and his buddies can try and influence the vote and get him doc protected instead so that they can kill me.
I guess I am Dead tonight. However, If I get the doc on my side you're going to accuse me of being scum so I guess Im definetly dead UNLESS there are two docs.[color=red]├é┬Ñ├é┬░gůřť├â┼©├â┬Ñň├â-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
Why the sudden reason to unvote me?Erotomachia wrote:I haven't finished reading the last few posts, but I just saw YogurtBandit's claim.
unvote: YogurtBandit
MeMe- In that post Where I thought Guardian was Scum and I was the only Cop,I was unsure about it. In responding to my Claim post, Guardian then started talking "Cop Strategy" with me, and I could tell he was Cop. However, Im only beliving his behavior is cop, but not entirely sure he is cop, because of the possiblity of only one cop.[color=red]├é┬Ñ├é┬░gůřť├â┼©├â┬Ñň├â-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
[quote="YL"]@YogurtBandit: Last but not least, seems the most cop like and pro-town between him and Guardian... just ggut feeling really. Also about what you said about 2 docs
Based on all this my current LoS from most scummy to least is:
Adel
NanookTheWolf
YogurtBandit
Streeflo
Guardian
Erotomachia
MeMe
ChaosOmega, Nanosauromo, Nekka-Lucifer
DogMom
You think Im scummier than Guardian but Im more cop? You are contradicting yourself.
unvote, Vote YL[color=red]├é┬Ñ├é┬░gůřť├â┼©├â┬Ñň├â-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
EBWOP: Forgot to end the quoteYogurtBandit wrote:
You think Im scummier than Guardian but Im more cop? You are contradicting yourself.YL wrote:@YogurtBandit: Last but not least, seems the most cop like and pro-town between him and Guardian... just ggut feeling really. Also about what you said about 2 docs
Based on all this my current LoS from most scummy to least is:
Adel
NanookTheWolf
YogurtBandit
Streeflo
Guardian
Erotomachia
MeMe
ChaosOmega, Nanosauromo, Nekka-Lucifer
DogMom
unvote, Vote YL[color=red]├é┬Ñ├é┬░gůřť├â┼©├â┬Ñň├â-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
I'd like to know why you suspect me.ChaosOmega wrote:
Yes.Note the "between 1 and 3" part. Do you really believe that all 3 of the scum could be on my list of active players?
The person who I'm most suspicious of right now is YogurtBandit, and you're saying it's inconceivable that 2 of the other people on your list could be scum as well? I'm not saying it's probable, and I do agree that some people need to post more (myself included, I've been busy the past couple days), I was just saying that it's possible.[color=red]├é┬Ñ├é┬░gůřť├â┼©├â┬Ñň├â-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
You voted him because you expected to be 0 for 3?Adel wrote:
Oh, yeah. I was holding a grudge, and expecting to be 0-for-3 with this crowd.MeMe wrote:And aren't you voting Guardian? How does that make sense in light of your newest proposal?unvote
Fos: ChaosOmega, Nekka-Lucifer, Nanosauromo, Erotomachia, MeMe, YagamiLightfor being behind the curve in posting content, pretty much in that order. YagamiLight gets another special notice for being almost perfectly non-scummy, which I am beginning to think is a scum tell. Do something scummy or I will be forced to think you are scum.
fos:Adel
The last sentence is an Oxymoron.[color=red]├é┬Ñ├é┬░gůřť├â┼©├â┬Ñň├â-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
No! Not Bm J/ktheopor_COD wrote:Battle Mage is replacing Nekka-Lucifer. Votecount on the way
Votecount 6
Adel 2 - Nanosauromo, ChaosOmega
ChaosOmega 2 - Adel, Guardian
Nekka-LuciferBM 1 - MeMe
Nanosauromo 1 - Erotomachia
Not voting the rest of the town - 7 to hang someone, deadline is some 8 days and 13 hours away.
Point 4 of the rules still holds sway, if you want an extension I will grant one at anytime up to the deadline - if over 50% of the town state they want one
[color=red]├é┬Ñ├é┬░gůřť├â┼©├â┬Ñň├â-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
Ah!Alot of questionsGuardian wrote:
OK, now we're getting somewhere. What do you mean by this? Can you give examples? Do you still feel the same way? Why or why not?YogurtBandit wrote:
Yes, but I felt you were going overboard with your cop claim.Guardian wrote:I figured you would say that, but you were at lynch -3 . I didn't perceive that you were close to being lynched, nor did anyone ask for a claim.
I mean that you were getting cocky and sarcastic. Like you said "Oh all the doc protection is mine" and stuff. I dont feel the same, because When I claimed, you opened up more and then etc etc and it lead to two cops.[color=red]├é┬Ñ├é┬░gůřť├â┼©├â┬Ñň├â-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
Oh how nice, Adel is congratulating her Scum Buddy. Ithink you two are scum. You can bet my investigation is going to be on you. Think. Just think.Adel wrote:Good catch!How did of a contradiction do you think it is?
I think it lends more weight to the earlier theory (and I can't remember who the credit goes to for this- Guardian?) that YB made a fake-claim to confuse the doctor and draw protection off of Guardian. Lies are harder to keep track of than truth.
I'm not convinced just by this yet.
Can I make a suggestion, and get a fair hearing for it? Can we all brainstorm the best case against YB? I'm not proposing a bandwagon, just a cooperative collection of the evidence against him? I've never voted for him, nor have I been very suspicious of him, but I have could easily missed something more damning. Is there anything else?
If there isn't, then that one contradiction of his isn't much worse than my "do something scummy" line.
YL- that is not what I said. I said that at first I didnt mean to claim, I meant to destroy Guardians claim, but It turned into a claim.[color=red]├é┬Ñ├é┬░gůřť├â┼©├â┬Ñň├â-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
Hmm, You're obviously right, Im just not sure I will live to tell my results.Erotomachia wrote:
Well, I figure it might be more valuable to keep YogurtBandit around today and see what happens during the night. That way we can also see what he has to say for himself on Day 2. I'm not saying I fully trust him and that he should never be lynched. But in the short-run it'll be interesting to hear his investigation results.Guardian wrote:I don't understand you going beyond that and defending YB though; why do you not want to hold him up to public scrutiny? If it looks like he is town, then I might buy, at least temporarily, that there are indeed two cops in the game. Be if not, I can definitely see him as scum fake claiming. Two cops in a mini normal is indeed rare.
I guess you're right about "outguessing the mod."[color=red]├é┬Ñ├é┬░gůřť├â┼©├â┬Ñň├â-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
Yeah Nice cover up.Adel wrote:
Damnit, it didn't stop to consider how scummy that sounds. What I meant was: would it be better for town if I stopped posting for a while? It seems to me that I am generating more noise than anything else so far.Adel wrote:Sometimes I think I would be better off if I just lurked.
vote:Adel[color=red]├é┬Ñ├é┬░gůřť├â┼©├â┬Ñň├â-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
Guardian, a thing that my mind has just brought attention to me, I was thinking if we really are both cops,The Mafia could kill one and blame the other for lyingWhich would kill both cops, If not both townspersons. I mean come on. We must really be aware that lynching one of us isnt the smart thing to do. Even if I am scum, would I really want you lynched? No.[color=red]├é┬Ñ├é┬░gůřť├â┼©├â┬Ñň├â-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
What are Yl's points?Guardian wrote:
YB... if you are scum, youYogurtBandit wrote:Guardian, a thing that my mind has just brought attention to me, I was thinking if we really are both cops,The Mafia could kill one and blame the other for lyingWhich would kill both cops, If not both townspersons. I mean come on. We must really be aware that lynching one of us isnt the smart thing to do.Even if I am scum, would I really want you lynched? No.most definitelywant me lynched. You, as scum, wouldsaythat you don't want me lynched, but you would rather I got lynched and you had your NK to aim elsewhere. Saying that as scum you wouldn't want me lynched... makes little sense and is scummy.
Also, please address YL's points.[color=red]├é┬Ñ├é┬░gůřť├â┼©├â┬Ñň├â-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
What are your questions?YagamiLight wrote:I would also love to hear BM's response to MeMe, and would still like YB to answer my questions
especially since its been almost 2 days since his last post here, and he has been active in other games.YagamiLight wrote:I'm sorry, thought it was clear, but what I had wanted was a comment from him about the contradictions and why I must be scum for pointing them out.[color=red]├é┬Ñ├é┬░gůřť├â┼©├â┬Ñň├â-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
Again with the whole, I bet at least two of A,B,C, AND D are scum. Youve played that card too much.Adel wrote:
I expect to find at least two scum among YogurtBandit, Nanosauromo, ChaosOmega, and Battle Mage.theopor_COD wrote: Adel 4 - Guardian, YogurtBandit, Nanosauromo, ChaosOmega
Battle Mage 3 - MeMe, Adel, DogMom
Nanosauromo 2 -Erotomachia, NanookTheWolf
[/b][color=red]├é┬Ñ├é┬░gůřť├â┼©├â┬Ñň├â-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
And if I end up dead, Youre the main suspect. Im sorry we're stuck here. Even if we are both cops, mafia will use this too their advantadge and tghere goes the cops.Guardian wrote: I've mentioned what I don't like about NanoS, and I re-skimmed YB's posts, and I am just not liking him as a second cop. He definitely was considering counterclaiming, toying around with a two cop theory, and then decided to do it. He has not given good reasoning for his suspicions, and has blatantly dodged YL's concerns like 5 or 6 times, not even bothering to do a quick re-read to try and answer. Lynching him today does indeed seem foolish, but if I end up dead tomorrow morning, please look at YB closely... I am just not buying it.[color=red]├é┬Ñ├é┬░gůřť├â┼©├â┬Ñň├â-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
Sounds slightly like WIFOM.Battle Mage wrote:crap, i g2g now, and im only on page 11. ill be on before deadline, but not by much. still, at least if i die tonight, you will have my analysis to go on
About not reading the thread, Im sorry, I am reading but theres not much else I can post right now.[color=red]├é┬Ñ├é┬░gůřť├â┼©├â┬Ñň├â-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
BM is probably waiting for another Nano vote so he can hammer. It wouldbe risky to try out, but if someone else votes Nano, we see if he quiklynches.. But thats all speculation.Erotomachia wrote:Why do you keep procrastinating, Battle Mage? It appears that you're purposefully putting off your vote until the last minute. With the way you're acting, Adel's concerns seem legitimate.[color=red]├é┬Ñ├é┬░gůřť├â┼©├â┬Ñň├â-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
So, You want someone to die?ChaosOmega wrote: Are you just faking confusion so you don't have to answer anything? I would much rather lynch scum who don't post much content then scum who post a lot of content. So I'm going tounvote, mainly to cause separation and make it less likely for a no-lynch to occur.
Fos: CO[color=red]├é┬Ñ├é┬░gůřť├â┼©├â┬Ñň├â-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
First, How would you know? a Fake claimed cop could say anything, so nice job getting into the mind of scum. You claim Townie then? Doc or 'nilla?Adel wrote:Since Guardian is wrong that means he is insane and not scum, right? A scum fake-claiming cop would report an innocent result, right?
Second, This is my last day, Since Im positive I will be N'ked if not Lynched.Guardian, I do hope you find your sanity, So you can use it. The next best way to test sanity is to Lynch, So if Adel come sup scum, You're Paranoid or Sane, If Town Naive or Insane.I really think you are of the two latter, because of my investigation. In your latest(597) you're pretty sure you are gulity-Paranoid, which I agree with. I guess its some sort of bond between us, we cant just pull eachother as scum. Or maybe one of us is hiding something. If you got Guilty, I would say you were Insane-Paranoid, At least in my mind. Adel is scummy, so I say you're sane. i meither Naive or Insane if so, and if Im Insane, MeMe is her scumbuddy. Besides that, A bigger situation we have is that there is an Sk, so Meme could be indeed an SK and I got an Innocent. But MeMe is doing a good job of being pro-town and giving good content, So she in my book is town, Even though I did Investigate Her. Or She apparently has me Confused. The Scum are trying to play us against each other, So lets argue so we can stay alive. j/k
But, Theyll Kill One of us, Possibly me if MeMe is scum, But then again not anymore after reading that. If We lynch Adel, It'll be easier for us to survive into Day 3.Doc's, Protect me and Guardain Tonight.Idoubt there are Docs,with 2 sucseesful Kills, and Two cops, Its unlikely.. Anyways, so We can survive into D3, and I was Voting her yesterday
Vote Adel[color=red]├é┬Ñ├é┬░gůřť├â┼©├â┬Ñň├â-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
Alot of role speculation for the scum.How could you rule out an SK? SK=Stranglings If not SK= Gun and Mafia= Strangling. WHO CLAIMED VIG? They are the Sk. I mean, seriously.Adel wrote:
You are forgetting that naive & paranoid are possible cop sanity.Guardian wrote:I investigated Adel because I realized that if I got a guilty on YB, he would say "Oh, you must be insane". If I got an innocent on him, that would prove that there are two cops, but I highly doubted that I would get an innocent result on him. Also, if he is really a cop, more suspicion was on him at that point, and I was sure he would be NK'd if innocent because he would be less likely to draw potential doc protection.
Possible power role combinations based on evidence so far:
a: 1 sane cop, 1 insane cop (or naive or paranoid), 1 vig
b: 1 sane cop, 1 vig
c: 1 insane (or naive or paranoid) cop, 1 vig.
d: 2 insane cops (or naive or paranoid) cops, 1 vig
If there were a mafia RB, I think they would've used him.
There could be a Godfather.
We all agree that there isn't a SK.
Lynching me or MeMe wouldn't prove much.
Possible lynch results:
e)Adel is town: Guardian is paranoid or lying scum. Or our mod is a bastard for making me a miller without telling me.
f)Adel is scum: Guardian is paranoid or sane.
g)MeMe is scum: YB is naive, or lying scum
h)MeMe is Town: YB is sane, or naive.
Can cops investigate themselves?
I don't think the NKs help us determine the alignment of either of our cop claims. WIFOM and fear of a doc could've kept scum away from both cops. Not wanting to out a cop-fake claim could as well.
2/5ths of my voters died last night, and were town. That creates a strange feeling.[color=red]├é┬Ñ├é┬░gůřť├â┼©├â┬Ñň├â-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section
Random much?Adel wrote:YL: I see your point, but I think the more obvious scum move is to report an innocent result on a suspect player. This is WIFOM territory though.
I've ruled out the possibility that we have two sane cops in my mind. Guardian is either lying or not sane, my bet is he is not sane. In my mind that makes YB and MeMe confirmed innocent, and Guardian a probable innocent.
vote:Streeflo[color=red]├é┬Ñ├é┬░gůřť├â┼©├â┬Ñň├â-
-
YogurtBandit Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 901
- Joined: May 21, 2007
- Location: Dairy Section