Mini Normal 2319: Flavorless Hell | Day 5
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Sorry for my late arrival!
Altaria is locktown why you guys voting her?-
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There's probably one scum in Drew/Hu Tao and I'm leaning Hu Tao
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I just got really strong town vibes from your first few posts, like you really don't care about being townread or scumread. I feel if you were scum you would maybe try to pocket Drew more or try to justify why you thought he was scum, but instead you just did your own thing and that read town.
Additionally I liked your vote on Hu Tao.
TrueIn post 84, Doctor Drew wrote:I feel like Dragon is a hot take sort of player
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Why not?In post 104, geraintm wrote:
Apart from a few mechanical reasons, never say this type of thing.In post 77, DragonEater70 wrote: Sorry for my late arrival!
Altaria is locktown why you guys voting her?-
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In post 106, DragonEater70 wrote:
Why not?In post 104, geraintm wrote:
Apart from a few mechanical reasons, never say this type of thing.In post 77, DragonEater70 wrote: Sorry for my late arrival!
Altaria is locktown why you guys voting her?
Ger, can you answer both questions?In post 108, Hu Tao wrote: Why naughty-
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Who is the wolf on that wagon?
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They are an alt so I dunno if I did
Confident enough to not lim them Day 1.-
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I have done it in many games and never once regretted it (there were a few times I locktowned someone early and they were scum, but they lost their "locktown" status before the end of the day). But calling someone locktown is a way to start a process of elimination which at one point will lead you to finding scum.-
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Like how can you hope to find scum Day 1 when everything is a crapshoot, as you say, without having a few people you trust?-
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Considering Alianna isn't in this game, I think you might be drunk.In post 139, Doctor Drew wrote:
Am I just too drunk or am I seeing double Alianna?In post 138, Altaria wrote: well it was a good theory while it lasted drew
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You see, you aren't the only Alianna alt this gameIn post 141, Altaria wrote: wait where did the second "n" go? is this a mandela effect-
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Wtf
Why is Alianna posting here when she's not even a player
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Assuming you read the game before repping in, which actually might not be a correct assumption.-
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I feel fine townbinning Aliana for now
might change this later though-
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Also something bothers me about this post but IDK what it isIn post 152, Doctor Drew wrote:
What is your read on me and why am I scum?In post 151, Aliana wrote: I read page 1 and saw there was apparently another me and repped in for the lolz.
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Hu Tao what are your reads except for Altaria scum?
And more importantly, how did your read on Altaria develop since you voted her?-
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Anyway what do you think about my two townreads (Aliana and Altaria)?-
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Wait how can you say this when you are voting Drew???
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Oh okay, I was asking YOU a question:In post 167, DragonEater70 wrote: Okay nvm, I was misremembering
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How is voting Drew going to help you win the game if you don't even have a read on him?In post 171, gob wrote: My job is only to win the game. However I get there, and whoever I have to destroy to get there, is no matter to me.
Both of them?In post 171, gob wrote:Probably scum-
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Care to explain why they are scummy to you? I really don't see it-
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FUCK
I said I won't be a top poster this game
And look at the activity overview. Just look at it.-
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@Aliana - on my phone so can't quote properly, but the reason for scum in Hu Tao / Drew boils down to both off them having some early interactions with other people that felt a bit stilted.
I still feel Drew is playing weird here with his constant scum claiming and the way he interacts with people feels like he's trying to be townread more than to sort them.
Hu Tao I actually don't know if she's scummy anymore, I guess her saying it was a misunderstanding is more likely to come from town.
UNVOTE: Hu Tao-
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Also the reason I was okay with townbinning you is because I liked your vibes, I guess-
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Though I have a question for you: I saw you townreading a bunch of people's posts and then putting them in null (IIRC), why is that? And who are your actual scumreads?-
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Okay I just looked at gob's ISO in DEFCON 6 and yeah this isn't town!gobIn post 195, Altaria wrote: these are some of the posts that stood out to me. it's not the strongest read but for page 8 it feels good enough. i also just want gob to do something instead of "taking it easy" and not taking things seriously so hopefully this helps
In post 711, gob wrote: I don't think it's Roden.In post 1549, gob wrote: Feel like its not Gamma here.In post 1572, gob wrote: I was just throwing it out there lolIn post 1575, gob wrote:
I like saying out of pocket shit to see what people sayIn post 1574, Black wrote:
So there's no reason why you feel like it can't be her? You're just saying it to say it? What's the point?In post 1572, gob wrote: I was just throwing it out there lol
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I think it's his only town game thoughIn post 209, Doctor Drew wrote:
Defcon probably isn't the best meta source hahaIn post 207, Aliana wrote: Briefly skimmed gob's ISO in DEFCON and it does seem better, though I don't have the context of actually looking at the interactions.-
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So you voting me for doing the same thing Aliana did while I was clearly responding to things from last page?In post 221, Doctor Drew wrote: VOTE: Dragon
Lol, literally just said defcon is not a good game for a meta read on anyone.
Wtf Drew.-
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Responding to things from last oage and thus missed your post on it.-
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Okay makes sense
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Which read has no substance behind it?In post 230, Doctor Drew wrote:
No I am voting you because you are throwing out reads with no substance behind them.In post 223, DragonEater70 wrote:
So you voting me for doing the same thing Aliana did while I was clearly responding to things from last page?In post 221, Doctor Drew wrote: VOTE: Dragon
Lol, literally just said defcon is not a good game for a meta read on anyone.
Wtf Drew.-
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How is:In post 231, Doctor Drew wrote:In post 220, Doctor Drew wrote:In post 216, DragonEater70 wrote: @Aliana - on my phone so can't quote properly, but the reason for scum in Hu Tao / Drew boils down to both off them having some early interactions with other people that felt a bit stilted.
I still feel Drew is playing weird here with his constant scum claiming and the way he interacts with people feels like he's trying to be townread more than to sort them.
Hu Tao I actually don't know if she's scummy anymore, I guess her saying it was a misunderstanding is more likely to come from town.
UNVOTE: Hu Tao
I said you like to take some hot takes.In post 217, DragonEater70 wrote: Also the reason I was okay with townbinning you is because I liked your vibes, I guess
But you really seem like you are saying things just to say things.
(Will this post get me some town cred?)
I like Alina's vibes and think she is probably town
I like Altaria's way of thinking and the fact that she isn't trying to make people town read her, and I think she's town
I agree with Altaria on gob being scum by meta
"saying things just to say things"????-
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Drew it feels like you are basically scum reading me for writing my posts more concisely and chill posting. Which doesn't make any sense to me, how is that alignment indicative? I explained all of these reads!-
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Struggled to explain? I said pretty explicity that Aliana had towny vibes. Also I did like her catch up but that's not what she asked about.-
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I liked posts 150 and 154, they sounded relaxed and had the "I am un-agenda'd and also don't know ehat I am doing but I'm here to have fun" tone that town!Alianna normally hasIn post 242, Doctor Drew wrote:
From barely posting after a repp in??In post 241, DragonEater70 wrote: Struggled to explain? I said pretty explicity that Aliana had towny vibes. Also I did like her catch up but that's not what she asked about.
I can tell you from experience that it's extremely easy to spot scum Alianna by tone, and this was her town tone.-
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What's the difference between a town townreading you and a scum pocket, vibes-wise?In post 243, Altaria wrote:
i like this. i got some pockety vibes from dragoneater townlocking me and i don't really think the reasons for doing so are that strongIn post 230, Doctor Drew wrote:
No I am voting you because you are throwing out reads with no substance behind them.In post 223, DragonEater70 wrote:
So you voting me for doing the same thing Aliana did while I was clearly responding to things from last page?In post 221, Doctor Drew wrote: VOTE: Dragon
Lol, literally just said defcon is not a good game for a meta read on anyone.
Wtf Drew.
i'm willing to give gob the benefit of the doubt for now. i feel like voting him got him to do some stuff at least
VOTE: Dragon-
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I guess it's easier for me to describe it by how it doesn't sound:In post 246, Altaria wrote:
what does aliana's scum tone sound like?In post 244, DragonEater70 wrote: I can tell you from experience that it's extremely easy to spot scum Alianna by tone, and this was her town tone
It doesn't sound light hearted
it doesn't sound natural
It doesn't sound confident-
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Well I really don't know what to tell you because that's the genuine read I had and I explained my reasons (I did add later that I also liked your thinking process / solving, but to be fully honest that did come after the initial read).In post 247, Altaria wrote:
that's a great question. i guess i like to see better reasons behind such a strong townread. i'm not sure reallyIn post 245, DragonEater70 wrote:
What's the difference between a town townreading you and a scum pocket, vibes-wise?In post 243, Altaria wrote:
i like this. i got some pockety vibes from dragoneater townlocking me and i don't really think the reasons for doing so are that strongIn post 230, Doctor Drew wrote:
No I am voting you because you are throwing out reads with no substance behind them.In post 223, DragonEater70 wrote:
So you voting me for doing the same thing Aliana did while I was clearly responding to things from last page?In post 221, Doctor Drew wrote: VOTE: Dragon
Lol, literally just said defcon is not a good game for a meta read on anyone.
Wtf Drew.
i'm willing to give gob the benefit of the doubt for now. i feel like voting him got him to do some stuff at least
VOTE: Dragon-
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Here's the one I played with her:In post 249, Doctor Drew wrote:
Can you link me to a scum Aliana game?In post 248, DragonEater70 wrote:
I guess it's easier for me to describe it by how it doesn't sound:In post 246, Altaria wrote:
what does aliana's scum tone sound like?In post 244, DragonEater70 wrote: I can tell you from experience that it's extremely easy to spot scum Alianna by tone, and this was her town tone
It doesn't sound light hearted
it doesn't sound natural
It doesn't sound confident
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Note how I lockscummed her very early.-
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Not confident about a read, confident about what she's postingIn post 251, Doctor Drew wrote:
Lol, when has townAliana ever sounded confident?In post 248, DragonEater70 wrote:
I guess it's easier for me to describe it by how it doesn't sound:In post 246, Altaria wrote:
what does aliana's scum tone sound like?In post 244, DragonEater70 wrote: I can tell you from experience that it's extremely easy to spot scum Alianna by tone, and this was her town tone
It doesn't sound light hearted
it doesn't sound natural
It doesn't sound confident
As in she's more cautious as scum-
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This is what I call a "confident" post.In post 154, Aliana wrote:
My read on you isIn post 152, Doctor Drew wrote:
What is your read on me and why am I scum?In post 151, Aliana wrote: I read page 1 and saw there was apparently another me and repped in for the lolz.
I'm trying to multitask right now so we'll see when I can read up properly.serial killerand you're scum because my trust in you is forever broken after you pocketed me in Open 882. Or maybe I pocketed myself. It's up for interpretation.-
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Because I amIn post 255, Aliana wrote: Why are you assuming that marathon Secret Hitler is a good representation of my scumgame?
Tbh I haven't read any other scum games of yours (I did read the micro but I didn't know you were ND and honestly I didn't even have an impression on ND).-
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Like yes I get that it was a marathon game, but it doesn't change my perception of how town vs scum you would look like
If you think I'm wrong you can point me to evidence and I might change my mind.-
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