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Post #1422 (isolation #4) » Tue Feb 20, 2024 7:01 pm
Postby Ranger »
I see. From those names so far I'd vote any of them, as none are strongly town. (This comes with the disclaimer neither tris/Jupiter posted P1. We'll see.)
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"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."
In post 1447, Ranger wrote:{hellbooks, fireisredsir}
{Black}
{Dannflor}
{usesPython}
{JupiterXV}
{Political Clout(Roden)}
{tris}
P12
ooh
For context, you didn't move down. Jupiter's posting there just seemed bold for scum. I'm still hesitant, especially if Dannflor's scum. (I'm townreading Dannflor's content, yet scared he's so high when he shouldn't be.) My reads are very fluid rn and I've a lot to read still.
The only reads I've virtually no doubts about are the top tier, every tier below adds doubt to the read. Roden's my null tier.
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"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."
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Post #1465 (isolation #22) » Tue Feb 20, 2024 7:49 pm
Postby Ranger »
In post 1461, fireisredsir wrote:i don't really see anything there actually so im pretty interested in the reasoning when you get the chance @ranger (page 14 python)
Sudden worry of repeating history.
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"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."
For full disclosure, if not for my concerns of repeating history, usesPython would be in the Jupiter townread tier. That's minimal doubt, top reads are virtually-zero, below is some doubts.
AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgang
"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."
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Post #1490 (isolation #33) » Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:23 pm
Postby Ranger »
In post 1486, Dannflor wrote:ranger not having me as strong town or strong scum yet is so dragon
You keep going back and forth to me. Ultimately you're not who I'd push regardless of your alignment, yet I keep shifting. I'll say you're probably never going to top town or top scum for the exact same reason; fear.
AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgang
"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."
First tier is virtually zero doubts, second tier is minimal doubts, third tier is "would be second tier if not for justified paranoia", PC's null and Black/tris equally scum.
AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgang
"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."
On the one hand, these reads feel really solid.
On the other, I should never have a perfect readslist with everyone town except three scum. I'm not that good.
AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgang
"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."
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Post #1570 (isolation #45) » Wed Feb 21, 2024 8:26 am
Postby Ranger »
In post 1505, tris wrote:is that because you scum read us, or something specific about the wagons?
Both.
I happen to know one of the wagons is on town and I believe both are.
In TvT wagons, scum are usually not going to be gathered exclusively on one. I townread all except you on the JV wagon; I don't think the Python wagon is very sus; I don't think Jupiter's particularly sus as Not Voting. So there's a very good chance it's 1-1-1.
AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgang
"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."
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Post #1578 (isolation #46) » Wed Feb 21, 2024 8:30 am
Postby Ranger »
In post 1511, Political Clout wrote:that doesn't make sense gamestate wise. If scum I would go for the easy lim instead of doing all this god forsaken work.
Your slot was an elimination candidate before you replaced in. By default, that requires doing "this godforsaken" work.
A part of my scumread on you is the feeling you're doing the bare minimum to shake off the scumread on your slot, rather than genuinely trying to solve.
In post 1511, Political Clout wrote:also I would be more interested in your analysis of the vote count before we replaced in.
My thoughts are reflected in the readslists for the pages. If you have questions about them, you're free to ask.
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"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."
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Post #1586 (isolation #47) » Wed Feb 21, 2024 8:33 am
Postby Ranger »
In post 1520, Dannflor wrote:if it helps
I think there's a recent pattern in my scum vs. town games where I tend to start my town games pretty reserved specifically because I think that's the best way to form better reads (basically by pretending im more of a spectator)
And in my scum games I tend to start out more proactive because that's the best way to get thread cred
of course now that I have mentioned that and made it clear I'm aware of that meta difference it is possible I just manipulated that just for this game but yknow whatever
I agree with this characterization, including how your awareness of it means you're skilled enough to manipulate it.
AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgang
"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."
In post 1490, Ranger wrote:I'll say you're probably never going to top town or top scum for the exact same reason; fear.
I don't believe fear has ever stopped you forming a confident read on me before. What is different about my play this game?
Perhaps fear was the wrong word to use. Healthy caution/paranoia would perhaps be better. If you had spent all of D1 hard-tunneling a slot and being wrong in your last game which ended in a loss, does it not affect your next game with them?
I don't want to not learn; I also don't want to overcompensate. So there's a hesitation to make judgements I otherwise would be inclined to make.
AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgang
"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."
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Post #1602 (isolation #50) » Wed Feb 21, 2024 8:44 am
Postby Ranger »
In post 1523, Dannflor wrote:I'd also love an explanation of the hellbooks town read
I'll say I'm disinclined to effort into a townread which is at zero risk of being the elimination, although I know you're asking because you want to see my thought process more than to know why hellbooks would be town.
The basic explanation is I don't see a shred of scum in hellbooks' posting. I admit unfamiliarity with hellbooks as a player, yet her vibes have been consistently good. I've laughed at hellbooks' posts, and liked her contributions. She feels like she's not trying to be townread and is casually efforting. Consistently, she's been the slot to most provide the aura of not forcing anything and just existing.
AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgang
"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."
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Post #1604 (isolation #51) » Wed Feb 21, 2024 8:46 am
Postby Ranger »
In post 1530, tris wrote:i need her to give an explanation so i can go oh that makes sense, of course you would scum read me
I felt you've been putting in the effort to look good, but put in only the bare minimum effort to avoid being suspected. You don't seem to have genuine effort to solve.
AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgang
"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."
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Post #1610 (isolation #53) » Wed Feb 21, 2024 8:52 am
Postby Ranger »
In post 1556, Dannflor wrote:you pulled at this very same logic in Friends and Enemies where you assumed where a bunch of people's reads were locked in at and made a show of being like "welp im dead i don't have the numbers"
that feels like a very... idk, incurious way to play the game
Have you considered scum are inclined to mimic their townplay and last game may have just been Python doing so?
AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgang
"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."
In post 1417, Ranger wrote:what are the odds this is the same usesPython we just lost to?
i thought you too logical for a statement like this
Perhaps you've lost sight of the context for that.
I had replaced in. I saw usesPython was at e-1, and believed there to be 11 hours left on the deadline clock. I saw the names on the wagon included you and Black. It also included fireisredsir and Political Clout. As far as names who if they're town are respectable scumhunters, it's hard to do better than that. Without having read anything, the decision was "do I blind hammer and sheep the names there and trust they caught usesPython who failed to evolve their scumplay, or do I read". I opted for the latter, from which I gained a fluctuating but still existing townread.
AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgang
"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."
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Post #1627 (isolation #56) » Wed Feb 21, 2024 9:08 am
Postby Ranger »
In post 1609, hellbooks wrote:i thought that my unvote on ranger was su[pposed to be the load bearing thing that was calcifying the gamestate in despair but when i revoted nothing changed
Perhaps consider it's because scum don't care which of {usesPython, Ranger} get eliminated.
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"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."
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Post #1630 (isolation #57) » Wed Feb 21, 2024 9:10 am
Postby Ranger »
In post 1616, fireisredsir wrote:python it just feels like you're having to twist and assume a lot of things about both town and scum behavior that don't really make sense to assume in order to justify your mindset as consistent
Though I agree, I tend to associate that behavior with town.
AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgang
"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."
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Post #1635 (isolation #59) » Wed Feb 21, 2024 9:14 am
Postby Ranger »
In post 1626, Black wrote:I can't really get a read on python's survivability because I've seen them do it as scum and as town. It doesn't feel good though
I don't mind a tris or Ranger vote
In post 1608, Political Clout wrote:I'm fine with a tris or ranger lim as well if people want to switch there.
Color me skeptical both Black and Political Clout have the exact same statements.
AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgang
"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."