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ok I will bite,waar wrote:
And now you're trying to downplay your scum slip from before by pretending it's nothing. Just keep digging your own grave buddy.curiouskarmadog wrote:lol, BM, see what you have caused?
how did I over react, by asking questions?
I will even humor you further, if I did overreact, how does that =scum?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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I am not sure how one posts and answer to a question without anwsering a question...not to mention answering a question that wasnt even directed to you...but now I will direct it to you.50 pounds of bread wrote:
Townies should be stoic and logical. Emotions are scummy.curiouskarmadog wrote:
ok I will bite,waar wrote:
And now you're trying to downplay your scum slip from before by pretending it's nothing. Just keep digging your own grave buddy.curiouskarmadog wrote:lol, BM, see what you have caused?
how did I over react, by asking questions?
I will even humor you further, if I did overreact, how does that =scum?
50, how did I over react?
and when someone asks how over reaction=scum the answer is not, emotion = scummy.
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I never said I was half way anywhere.waar wrote:Okay halfway to a lynch is hardly a big deal, you still need a whole nother 5 votes for the lynch.
A townie would react calm. Your reply to his jokevote gave me the impression that you were nervous about something. Nervousness is often-times a sign of guilt.curiouskarmadog wrote: I will even humor you further, if I did overreact, how does that =scum?
still confused here, how did I over react?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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now we are getting somewhere.waar wrote:
That wasn't directed towards you, it was directed towards WomensRightscuriouskarmadog wrote:I never said I was half way anywhere.
The first post I quoted when I voted for you is where you over reactedcuriouskarmadog wrote:still confused here, how did I over react?
Who is "you" in that sentence which was directed toward Womensright?waar wrote:Okay halfway to a lynch is hardly a big deal, you still need a whole nother 5 votes for the lynch.
still not answering the question...please example to me HOW I over reacted. Quoting my reply doesnt explain HOW I over reactted..NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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LOL, My very serious reply was "now that just hurts BM?", "the circle begins a new" and "are we going to start bumping heads again?"waar wrote:
Okay this is the post I was talking about:curiouskarmadog wrote:still not answering the question...please example to me HOW I over reacted. Quoting my reply doesnt explain HOW I over reactted..
You replied to an obvious joke with a very serious reply, pointing out to Battle Mage exactly why his reasoning sucked, while at the same time also explaining his joke. You were very quick to get defensive about something that was meant to be taken in jest. Thus, you are over reacting.curiouskarmadog wrote:
now that just hurts BM...Battle Mage wrote:Vote: CKD
bandwagon much?
I placed a second vote on Lazy...you place the second vote on me...you say I am bandwagoning...
I say you are (fill in the blank), the circle begins a new?
are we going to start bumping heads again?
that was serious?..and from that post you got that I was nervious and I felt guilty?
How far are you willingly to push and back this vote?
Also, I never said his reasoning sucked? Did you think it sucked?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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where? if I get anything from that, I was calling him a hypocrite..waar wrote:
Yes you did:curiouskarmadog wrote:I never said his reasoning sucked? Did you think it sucked?
curiouskarmadog wrote:I placed a second vote on Lazy...you place the second vote on me...you say I am bandwagoning...
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because you are putting words in my mouth that I didnt say.waar wrote:
Ugh why argue semantics? The quote I posted was one where you explained why you didn't agree with his argument. Hence, why you thought it sucked.curiouskarmadog wrote: where? if I get anything from that, I was calling him a hypocrite..
If I thought it was a serious argument then yes I would agree that placing a vote on someone because they placed a 2nd vote on somebody else in a 19 player game is a shitty argument. However he was joking.curiouskarmadog wrote:again, did you think it sucked?
You are also indicating that I over reacted, but fail explain how I over reacted...you think BM was "joking" (with a vote) yet I was "serious" (with a non vote question post) and over reactted..
unvote vote waar
you have yet to explain to me how my post was an over reaction or serious (when it was obviously a joke)...you are willingly to keep backing and aggressively pushing this vote, when you are obviously in the wrong...NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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for the love of God, how was it an over reaction?waar wrote:
I explained:curiouskarmadog wrote: You are also indicating that I over reacted, but fail explain how I over reacted...you think BM was "joking" (with a vote) yet I was "serious" (with a non vote question post) and over reactted..
waar wrote: You replied to an obvious joke with a very serious reply, pointing out to Battle Mage exactly why his reasoning sucked, while at the same time also explaining his joke. You were very quick to get defensive about something that was meant to be taken in jest. Thus, you are over reacting.
I said..
"now that just hurts BM..." (you are telling me this was serious?)
I placed a second vote on Lazy...you place the second vote on me...you say I am bandwagoning...I say you are (fill in the blank), the circle begins a new? (you are telling me this is serious?)
are we going to start bumping heads again?(you are telling me this is serious?)
Where is the over reaction in this post? You said that I thought BM's reasoning sucked and you agreed it sucked. You see my interaction with you? This is serious...you see a difference?
My vote on him is not an OMGUS vote. I gave him plenty of time to say "hey, maybe it is a misunderstanding"..or "my joke on you was mostly random"..or even a "I am just trying to start conversation"
but he wont back down..he wants to push a vote on someone because of an over reaction that wasnt even there.
Now he is saying I am being overly defensive....NO, I am being offensive
When I see something scummy, I jump on it. When someone votes me (passed the random stage) for a crappy reason and refuses to admit they might be wrong...I jump on it.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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Man... you are TOTALLY overreacting...curiouskarmadog wrote:
for the love of God, how was it an over reaction?waar wrote:
I explained:curiouskarmadog wrote: You are also indicating that I over reacted, but fail explain how I over reacted...you think BM was "joking" (with a vote) yet I was "serious" (with a non vote question post) and over reactted..
waar wrote: You replied to an obvious joke with a very serious reply, pointing out to Battle Mage exactly why his reasoning sucked, while at the same time also explaining his joke. You were very quick to get defensive about something that was meant to be taken in jest. Thus, you are over reacting.
I said..
"now that just hurts BM..." (you are telling me this was serious?)
I placed a second vote on Lazy...you place the second vote on me...you say I am bandwagoning...I say you are (fill in the blank), the circle begins a new? (you are telling me this is serious?)
are we going to start bumping heads again?(you are telling me this is serious?)
Where is the over reaction in this post? You said that I thought BM's reasoning sucked and you agreed it sucked. You see my interaction with you? This is serious...you see a difference?
My vote on him is not an OMGUS vote. I gave him plenty of time to say "hey, maybe it is a misunderstanding"..or "my joke on you was mostly random"..or even a "I am just trying to start conversation"
but he wont back down..he wants to push a vote on someone because of an over reaction that wasnt even there.
Now he is saying I am being overly defensive....NO, I am being offensive
When I see something scummy, I jump on it. When someone votes me (passed the random stage) for a crappy reason and refuses to admit they might be wrong...I jump on it.
waits for CKD's head to explode...
NOW you might have a case that I am over reacting...but you are currently not sitting at -3 either.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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if you could aimee, please quote my initial over reaction...and explain how it was an over reaction.Aimee wrote:Um, wow?
First off: Heads up - this weekend I have limited access, so if I don't post much, that's why.
Second off: Womensrights! Yay! Let's rock this joint together!!!! (Also: who is scum?)
Third: The activity here could be waaaaay too much. But I'll try to keep up.
Fourth: CKD, you just overreacted.FoS: CKD
Fifth: Garnasha, please explain your waar vote.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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not that I am defending Aimee...currently I am in several games with her. She comes in, reads a page or two, then makes a comment. Problem is we have 9 pages. That is why i asked her to quote where my inital over reaction was and why she deemed it as such, versus regurgitating the thoguht of the hour. Like other games, I doubt she is really following this one closely.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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Tar, surely if you are asking someone for comments on my wagon you will also provide your own...9 pages in the page and your only comments have been.Tarhalindur wrote:
Comments on the CKD wagon?Peers wrote:I enjoy the faster pace; I got started in Mafia in 48-hour-deadline games, so the speed isn't that new to me. I think it'll be
much better for us once we get out of the random phase of things.
Tarhalindur wrote:Alasdair wrote:WomensRights we are talking about the game on American Online Instant Messanger as we speak!
K?The Frakking Rules that are posted on Page 1 wrote:5.) No talking to other players, dead or alive, outside of the thread, unless your role permits it.Tarhalindur wrote:Vote: CKD
MY NAME IS INIGO MONTOYA, YOU KILLED MY FATHER, PREPARE TO DIE.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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50 pounds of bread wrote:
however I also think that waar's unvote is justified.
ahh, I think you say it best.50 pounds of bread wrote: News for you guys, don't defend people unless you have evidence suggesting they are town. Townies have an edge when defending themselves called the truth. Only scum need to be defended by someone else.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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so how is that different than anyone pointing out my reasoning?50 pounds of bread wrote:
I was pointing out obvious reasoning for someone doing something, it's not of a defense as much as it is a, "lulz, how did you miss this?"curiouskarmadog wrote:50 pounds of bread wrote:
however I also think that waar's unvote is justified.
ahh, I think you say it best.50 pounds of bread wrote: News for you guys, don't defend people unless you have evidence suggesting they are town. Townies have an edge when defending themselves called the truth. Only scum need to be defended by someone else.
But go ahead and have suspicion on me, you are probably scum anyway.
"probably scum anyway"??..ummm I thought you said I WAS scum, thus the vote..NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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I am still comfortable with my vote on Waar, I found him scummy when I placed the vote and nothing has yet changed this. Even his unvote (on me) seemed scummy.
However, one other thing that has popped out to me I want to explore.
Garnasha’s play. He started off defending me when if was obviously against the town majority. He had some good observations on what was going on. I understand the theory behind scum knowing someone is about to be hung (town) and vouching or defending them to buy themselves town creds Day 2. I feel like Waar could be doing that now with the unvote. However, I have been the guy (town) who opposed the caseless wagon Day 1 and the town majority. So his defense of me alone is not enough. However, once he was attacked for his defense (mostly by 50 LBs) and it looks like I wont be the fast BW lynch after all he starts to buckle.
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Now it is ok if people want to lynch me, but if I come out town??? He is already setting up his attack for Day 2. If you think I am town, why are you beginning to falter in your beliefs and a defense. IF you are town, dont you want to see scum lynched versus me?Garnasha wrote:About my defending CKD: I thought his defence was good, and I kept encountering that first reaction which started it all because it was called overreacting which kept being quoted. My opinion was that it wasn't that overreactiong, and bandwagons gather momentum of their own. So my thoughts were that someone probably started a case against CKD to get townie lynched. I didn't defend CKD because he didn't need help with that as he seemed to have the edge of truth, I used the bandwagon on him to look for scum.
If you want CKD lynched, fine, but if he turns out to be town like I think, I'm going after BM for defending waar and pretending not to by voting him while he isn't in any danger of getting lynched. If he turns out to be scum, feel free to lynch me, but once you guys know my alignment, please lynch BM and/or waar for me.
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He doesn’t explain why he thinks he is mistaken, there were no posts between his last post in the thread and this one. Actually he wants someone else to do the work for him. Garnasha, what made you change your mind at this point? If you want to help the town, shouldn’t you look for your known facts and draw your own conclusions without being lead around by others?Garnasha wrote:Alright, seems I was mistaken in thinking CKD was not that scummy. Could someone with some experience give me an estimate how many scum a 19 player game prolly contains? Once I have that info I'll reconsider my vote.
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This post just reeks. You are basically saying, if people jump on my bandwagon, you wont be suspicious of them. You care WAY too much about what this town thinks of you. This tends to be a scum trait (if you need the theory behind that I will provide). You have done a complete 180, without a.) any reason, b.) providing a case of your own and c.) voting me yourself.Garnasha wrote:I can also add that if more people agree that CKD overreacts in the post that started it all I'll become l;ess suspicious of you.
FoS Garnasha
What iscurrent stances on me, Waar, Lazy, 50 Lbs, and BM?yourNO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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he never addressed how I was over reacting..he simply quoted me and said I was serious, when I obviously was joking.Lemming1607 wrote:
Dude, you OMGUS'd him because he went after you for overreacting. That's not scummy, that's called "getting us out of the jokevote phase". He unvoted because he didn't want a fast bandwagon.curiouskarmadog wrote:I am still comfortable with my vote on Waar, I found him scummy when I placed the vote and nothing has yet changed this. Even his unvote (on me) seemed scummy.
However, one other thing that has popped out to me I want to explore.
Please explain how that is scummy
if you think I over reacted, maybe you could conitnue the "good" fight for him...where did I over react...also, why do you think his vote (at that point) was to get us out of the joke phase?...seems like you have a lot of insight into his motivation...care to explain?
also, do you have any comments on the rest of my post?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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thank you for fixing the tags.
he didnt explain it, please provide a post number where he explained it. All he did was quote me. He never answered how asking questions and statements like "now that just hurts, BM" was serious or an over reaction. You think that post was a over reaction?
I will even repost the quote that was the "over reaction" and "serious" and spawned the BW...(again, this question is not just for Lemming, it is for all the BWers, who voted for me, claiming it was an over reaction)
This was an over reaction? You think I was serious, when I told BM I was hurt? I was basically poking fun at BM calling him a hypocrite, without calling him one (which btw, he got the joke) If I was serious or over reacting, why didn’t I even FoS him?curiouskarmadog wrote:
now that just hurts BM...Battle Mage wrote:Vote: CKD
bandwagon much?
I placed a second vote on Lazy...you place the second vote on me...you say I am bandwagoning...
I say you are (fill in the blank), the circle begins a new?
are we going to start bumping heads again?
Also, you said.
Reading that statement, it sounds like you knew was Waar’s motivation was. That was a result of his vote, but you state he is not being scummy, because he is getting us out of the joke vote stage...just because his post got us out of the joke vote stage, that clears him in your mind?Lemming1607 wrote:
That's not scummy, that's called "getting us out of the jokevote phase". He unvoted because he didn't want a fast bandwagon.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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WR, if you go back to when the BW started (and I can provide the quote votes if needed)...many peopled jumped on the wagon because of that post stating it was an over reaction, NOT my latter comments. I find this scummy, so that is why I attacked. When I "leap down the throat" of someone who supplies crap excuse for a vote (after the random vote stage), that IS me commenting on the game.
My main point, was that the BW developed for really no reason. Which was fine, because that it typically what happens day 1. What my problem was, that only a few would admit to the fact that that was the reason the BW started. People kept pushing that my original statement was an over reaction, which is false (which you agree with).
WR, if you look back and see who voted and see why they voted, you will understand my anger.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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mcpaltp, thank you for explaining your opinion. You think I am scummy, because I am over reacting in general, not the initial response. Which is fine and I think you are being honest. But if you put yourself in my shoes, you might understand why I could be angry.
Someone says something you said was an over reaction (when it is obvious that it is not). A bandwagon forms while people provide reasons for votes that you think are false. You being town, see people pushing information that is false. What would you do?
I wasn’t going to sit back and let it pass, if I think something is scummy ( I attack and aggressively so). If you meta game, you will see that I have never seen end game as town, because of this play. My contributions help the town later. I will almost always attack what I find scummy.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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Chronx, was there anything there I needed to address that I didnt?
you stated.
"A townie needs to play in such a way that the town gains information about who is doing what, why, should they end up getting lynched.
You haven't done this"
I directed you to a post where I did just that..is Lemming right, did I miss something?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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nice...
insults, good times, good times.
"ALSO, I'm getting this weird vibe from you that you're doing your best to discredit me and make everyone think that waar and I talk out of thread and are cheating. You keep implying that I know his reasoning. There's only one way for that to happen and it's called cheating."
wow, jump in assumptions...your answer should have been I dont know what his motivation was, I am just guessing...you were acting like you knew his motivation when he never stated it.
actually my line of questioning was trying to establish if there was a link between the two of you this game. you were coming to his defense by explaining his vote with information he has never stated, when he could have explained his own vote. I was just trying to figure out why? The thought that you two were talking outside of the thread didnt cross my mind...well, until now that is..
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mcpaltp wrote:
Cite please.curiouskarmadog wrote:nice...
*snip* you were coming to his defense by explaining his vote with information he has never stated, when he could have explained his own vote. *snip*
2nding votecount.
Lemming suggests that he was not acting scummy, that he as getting us out of the joke stage..How does he know that is what waar was doing?Lemming1607 wrote:
Dude, you OMGUS'd him because he went after you for overreacting. That's not scummy, that's called "getting us out of the jokevote phase".
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whatever man, just here to have fun.windshipper wrote:
The signature was earned through hardwork and perseverance.curiouskarmadog wrote:
and the sig?windshipper wrote:I'm done with this for now, I've said my piece.
game stops being fun when people start to throwing insults around.
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I am telling you I didnt even think that..dont need to back pedal, trust me if I thought you were doing that..I would say it (anybody here who has played with me before knows I think it, I say)
I was just trying to see if there was a link between the two of you (in game). You said he wasnt being scummy, he was just ending the joke vote stage...I wondered why you would come out and say what his motivation was when a.) he has never stated that he intended to end the joke vote stage and b.) you supposedly dont know his alignment.
I found it out..I could have misread that, but instead of explaining it to me (because apparently I am a fucking retard) you chose to go the "we are not talking outside of the thread" route, which I didnt even consider.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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I was answering someone else's question.Lemming1607 wrote:
CKD you really need to work on your reading comprehension...if you look at the last page I ALREADY ADDRESSED THIS. I NEVER SAID WAAR WAS TRYING TO GET US OUT OF JOKE VOTE PHASE.curiouskarmadog wrote:Lemming suggests that he was not acting scummy, that he as getting us out of the joke stage..How does he know that is what waar was doing?
You AGAIN are using strawman arguments to say something I did not say. AFTER I already addressed your question. Why are you blatantly ignoring what I said trying to make a connection out of where there is none?
The only thing I can think of of someone doing this is scum, so I think you're scum now.
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taking a couple days off from this game...taking shit too personally, sometimes it is a scum tactic to push you and get under your skin..sometimes, people really think you are fucking retarded and disagree with your playstyle...cant tell which it is at this point..
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jesus, checking my watched list I see this game is progressed two pages in the past 24 hours (some of my games dont progress two pages in 2 weeks)...I dont think I can stay away for a couple days to cool off....
that being said, I am going to reread (with a fresh look at this game) to include the past two pages I have missed...
Skimmy I see that Wind would like me to answer why Waar unvoting me was scummy.
Well, I said that it seemed "scummy(to me)"..meaning that was my opinion or assumptions. IT seemed like my BW was hot to trot and heading to a lynch, if I was lynched and I came out town, then he can always fall back on.."well, I tried to stop the wagon"....Yes, Wind, unvoting someone who might be lynched (when you dont think or are convinced they are scum) is a pro-townish move, which is eactly why scum do it. Again, note, I didnt push that because it was my opinion which I stated. I hope that answers your question..
Think I will try to do a player by player break down in the next 48 hours (work permitting)..might be the best way to look at this game in a different prespective.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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again, not pushing this particular point, he asked how or whymcpaltp wrote:
I'm just gonna point out that boy do I dislike this WIFOM-y stuff here. I'm not trying to pick on you in particular as I've seen it used elsewhere, but extrapolating from this statement, anybody who acts pro-town must be scum, because scum would do it to look town.curiouskarmadog wrote:*snip*
Yes, Wind, unvoting someone who might be lynched (when you dont think or are convinced they are scum) is a pro-townish move, which is eactly why scum do it. Again, note, I didnt push that because it was my opinion which I stated. I hope that answers your question..
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Quick! nobody do anything pro-town, it's a scumtell! Oh snap, waar wants to stop a quick lynch and promote discussion? Git'em, he's gotta be scum! I'll teach him for wanting to help the town! Graggaglelge.
I just don't like that kind of reasoning so much is all I'm sayin'.thought that could be scummy, I explained whyIthought it could be...this is my when I first stated it I said "(to me)" meaning my opinion.INO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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jesus christ, 2 pages since earlier today...quick comments because it is all that I have time for..
I encourage people to meta game Tar, he plays this way (vote hoping little content) in most of his games...Tar usually hits scum lists or is killed because of this style of play.
this is my first real game with ABR (he modded a game I was in though), so he might know my play style...I was super aggressive and NKed (because of my mason claim)..he also replaced into another game that I was lynch Day 1 in for being too aggressive...so I am not sure why he is thinking I am scummy (still think it is a joke for the most part). That being said, I think this is ABR normal playing style too...dont know him well enough to know if it is effective or not.
I enjoyed Peers PbP (finally someone gets where I was coming from)...how long did that take you to read and post?...also thought his analysis was pretty solid..
I would like to see skitzer post cases versus lists..
windshipper is surprising me, looks like he is actively scum hunting (even though I still appear to be on his radar)
I dont like 50's absence...I am sure there are others, but he is sticking out to me..
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I agree and I am fine with that (for now)..I dont think he has gone too far, too far would be a BW where he is forced to claim..I for one have no desire to BW ABR, because it would be just too easy to start a case..I will leave that for scum.Peers wrote:I'll agree with CKD. Can we have Waar back? Please?
The hell of it is... I'm starting to think AKR is town. Amazingly annoying town, but he's trying to appear scummy enough that a scum won't kill him. He just doesn't realized he's gone so far a lot of the town wants him dead, too...NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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skitzer wrote:ABR makes a point about Garnashas language barrierhelpinghim, but I don't feel it is enough for anything yet. Maybe there is a true language barrier. We need to get something solid on him.
List Time:
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Tarhalindur
your lists are meaninglesscuriouskarmadog wrote:
I would like to see skitzer post cases versus lists..
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so being "harsh" and "blunt" equal scummy?skitzer wrote:They have all had very scummy ways of play to me.
CKD and ABR are very harsh and blunt in their ways of play. It's almost ironic that they are against each other.
Garnasha pushed for a roleclaim. I thought that was a very strange move in this game.
Tarhalindur is on there only because ABR wondered why people were voting for him. I guess that's not a very big reason.
See? None of those reasons are big enough for a vote.
And I think i have stated several times that I am not going after ABR at this point..NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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I think ABR probably set up windshipper there...in wind's defense, he is new to the site and that particular rule is not stated in the MOD's rules...however, ABR it is right, it is a gobal rule. Usually it is handled by the Mod (if wind will be warned or mod killed)..At the least, the post needs to be deleted..NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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it is up to the MOD...I have seen it go either way..might behoove you to PM the MOD to let him know it happened.windshipper wrote:I think he set me up too, which is why I'm so pissed right now. He was a total ass and I didn't know the rule. I should have, and if I'm modkilled it's fair and I understand. However, I'm still pissed at being set up and following through on it without seeing that's what was happening. He knew I didn't know the rules, and so set me up to fall hard.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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