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[Naerys]

VOTE: Shrek

[Naerys]

just because day 1 is not good doesn't mean we should forgo dayplay

+1 townie point

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Where the fuck is everyone?

Feels like you rolled town again

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Somebody said Netflix? I hate them, they butchered The Witcher
thx for the trigger

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That fire didnt last long

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Perhaps thats what he wants you to think

[Naerys]

iavh is as much weird as in the mini i played with him, might be town

[Naerys]

anyone else having a gut feeling that a scum might be hidden on FL wagon?

[Naerys]

Yes its a maybe, but in my previous game my gut feeling at the beginning was correct

[Naerys]

UNVOTE: Shrek
VOTE: Klazam

[Naerys]

i dont really know what the two of you are arguing about

psyche believes incoherence isn't a towntell

iamveryhappy disagrees with that

[Naerys]

Alright, so I'm at work again and will post as able soon.

Also, I'm 2-Shot Bulletproof (don't b*tch to me).

Awaiting to see how Scum respond to the news.

Bulletproof again? Lel

[Naerys]

I cannot sort hu tao

Considering I've only had like 2 posts at the time, not sure what there is to sort

I sure hope you're Town this game, Hu.

I'd actually be happier if I was scum in this particular game. Being town in a Large makes me feel lost and overwhelmed

Understandable, i woke up to 11 new pages.

[Naerys]

For such amount of posts i still got low impressions, i am at work now and then i need to check blood test results so in the late afternoon i will reread and post something sensible, hopefully

[Naerys]

My head is spinning from the number of new pages

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That was worst, shriek, and molla

I have too few people I’m scumreading now. Ugh.

For now I’m happy with Hu

That would actually be better for me lol. I prefer to narrow down the possible suspects. For example focusing on FL wagon gave me 5 people on which my attention is focused.

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Also i dont believe StD plays lurking scum again

[Naerys]

i think people keep talking about my meta like they understand it but i don't think they truly do after 1-2 games

I dont understand neither you nor iavh

[Naerys]

so im going to try not to post during work hours from here out
i'd still be fine limming furtive by default but my page 2 case against the slot is certainly not pulitzer level
i don't want to commit too hard to producing a reads list because commitments like these have made me flakey in the past but yeah it'd be useful for me to work on one

Funny thing is, that furtive except agreeing with you at early pages does not seem to interact with you.

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I think ur pushing for furtive does not make much sense.

[Naerys]

iavh - weird opening into disappearing when confronted

One mini was enough for me to stop trying to understand iavh

[Naerys]

I like the FL, TL and JV dynamics, getting a solid town vibe there.
On the other hand, my focused attention goes to: Klazam, ZZZX, Psyche, Hu Tao, BBMolla

[Naerys]

Ita a stab in the dark with no real ctachup doen yet but

VOTE: Hu Tao

Ive played with town you 3 times so the law of averages state your due a scum game

Thats not kind of post i expected from you lol

[Naerys]

Also i dont believe StD plays lurking scum again

Why?

Its my feeling that StD is lurker in general.At this point its just gut feeling, tbh. Too low data on StD

[Naerys]

I got bonked on the head

Seems like its not a first time

[Naerys]

Well the few posts of his seem lack content, feels like he pops with "look i am still here" and disappears again

[Naerys]

Page 13, I give up on reading the moment I saw 1 more page pop in

I will iso one player or two now (except the big 3 with 5000 posts)

who should I iso first? Taking suggestions

Shrek and iavh

Sure, give me a few

tbh I have nothing in my iso lol
I got bonked on the head and have been posting sporadically, that's all you need to know

Well he, indeed, had nothing in his iso

Curious exchange, i might be seeing stuff that isnt here but something feels off

[Naerys]

Page 13, I give up on reading the moment I saw 1 more page pop in

I will iso one player or two now (except the big 3 with 5000 posts)

who should I iso first? Taking suggestions

Shrek and iavh

Sure, give me a few

tbh I have nothing in my iso lol
I got bonked on the head and have been posting sporadically, that's all you need to know

Well he, indeed, had nothing in his iso

Curious exchange, i might be seeing stuff that isnt here but something feels off

It is more curious you found it curious

I was told to iso him, he said he had nothing in his iso, and his 5 posts indeed, were nothing.

Is furtive your scum buddy?

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UNVOTE: Klazam
VOTE: ZZZX

Bit touchy at a slight nudging, dont you think?

[Naerys]

I am not pretending having content,LOL, i literally said that i believe one scum is on FL wagon. And voting is great tool of getting reactions

[Naerys]

Feel free to check my other games, i will never be capable of elaborate posts with insane length, but i am expressing my thoughts even if the cost is being suspected of being scum.

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I am not pretending having content,LOL, i literally said that i believe one scum is on FL wagon. And voting is great tool of getting reactions

Fine, let me correct myself:

I am voting you because it

feels

like you are 'pretending' to have content.

Better?

Thats rather big difference - not having a content vs pretending to have one. I am honest, my posts are always honest. Its easily verify-able

[Naerys]

I think the amount of posts this game is anti-town.

Diasagreed

[Naerys]

Flavor, why do you think you are not in control?
Btw you seem like a player that needs to get flippee sooner or later anyway lol

[Naerys]

y'all i'm tired as shit i have zero spoons for this.

i'm finding i suddenly dislike every TL post i've seen while trying to read back. i've liked what i've seen from pisskop like, at a really rough tonal level. i'm also getting a warm vibe from snivy.

i'm getting the feeling there might have been an FL wagon i missed, is there anything particularly spicy i can read about that without reading the whole way back?

FLs self vote.

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y'all i'm tired as shit i have zero spoons for this.

i'm finding i suddenly dislike every TL post i've seen while trying to read back. i've liked what i've seen from pisskop like, at a really rough tonal level. i'm also getting a warm vibe from snivy.

i'm getting the feeling there might have been an FL wagon i missed, is there anything particularly spicy i can read about that without reading the whole way back?

FLs self vote.

Bbmolla probably right

VOTE: Flavor

this one?

yes

[Naerys]

VOTE: shaddowez

Reasons?

[Naerys]

Iavh is a bomb that explodes after dying
He might be wolf, tbh. His frustrated post does not feel entirely honest

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oh right, it's been a while.

I'm just gonna treat it as a joke

It was a joke, atleast from my side. Cant speak for iavh

[Naerys]

Honestly, Hu Tao feels like obv scum this game.

And the second I started to town read both CSF and The Worst I got instant paranoia nd felt energy one of them are working

Since it seems you played more games with Hu Tao, how do you tell if Hu is town?

[Naerys]

The problem with iavh is that he doesnt really bring anything to the town, doesnt post any thought or anything, just trolls around.
Even if he is town, he could be fine elim.

[Naerys]

Your quips will be missed

[Naerys]

Hu Tao felt more certain as town in 2309, but that might be bcz of neighbor role there

[Naerys]

if that is not a scummy mindset, I know less than -50% about what a scummy mindset is

I have got more scum feeling from your later post( early u seemed town to me) than bob.

[Naerys]

VOTE: Psyche

let's end day 1 ASAP

What the .... ? I understand you not man

Also sorry, everyone, i was exhausted from work

[Naerys]

the consensus is that we need the end the day early

What? This isnt very town post

[Naerys]

As I understand it Scum would vote themselves to deny Town information. They can do it sooner than L-1 if they think their demise is evident.

ZZZX´s demise isnt evident tho. He should try harder to change our minds.

[Naerys]

thing is, we need to end D1 by like yesterday

Why? i dont understand why you wish to rush

[Naerys]

Anyone scum reading CSF caring to elaborate as for why they do so? I dont see anything obviously scummy

[Naerys]

thing is, we need to end D1 by like yesterday

Why? i dont understand why you wish to rush

because not rushing will just leave the town confused when Day 2 comes

we have already gotten all the info we can get today

More interactions = more data to investigate

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thing is, we need to end D1 by like yesterday

Why? i dont understand why you wish to rush

because not rushing will just leave the town confused when Day 2 comes

we have already gotten all the info we can get today

More interactions = more data to investigate

it's all just going to be noise, what makes you think there will be more signal if we delay a lim?

in 2309 extended D1 served town well, even tho it was mini
If we can organize ourselves well, i dont see a problem in a slower pace. Might unnerve scum and make them make a mistake, too

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I'm actually scumreading Naerys for trying to reduce the signal to noise ratio of D1

[Naerys]

I feel like forcing you to listen a nails scratching blackboard noise for couple of hours.

[Naerys]

Seeing some of your posts i actually believe that you are from an alternate universe.

[Naerys]

you all are terrible at making decisions.

Thanks, thats what one really wants to hear

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LF: lets prevent claims from happening
Few posts later FL: basically claims
Okay

[Naerys]

Seems like we are shifting through zzzx-iavh
I dont like the way Psyche and FL keep shifting their votes.

[Naerys]

Anyone else got feeling that FL is trying to make a mess of this game?

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I have got this nagging feeling that there is person reveling in creating chaos. Is it FL? Is it somebody else?

[Naerys]

To hammer or not to hammer?
I am willing to.

[Naerys]

UNVOTE: ZZZX
VOTE: iamveryhappy
So be it.

[Naerys]

Curious are the 1 ppl votes, Bob voting Hu tao gives me deja vu

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Naerys really scummed it up the end of the day with their twisting of vote shift and chaos causing comments, then the hammer steal lol

1) Its how i felt, i still feel there are some ppl who are shifting way too much
2) I asked people whether to hammer or not, nobody seemed against

[Naerys]

If you wish to SR me for my genuine impression, be my quest

[Naerys]

pisskop was already saying they were going to hammer.

Where did he write that? I must have missed that

[Naerys]

I read it as flavor trying to spin naery up and get something out of her.

Tbh my townieness seems to include atleast one mistake per game.
And i should have waited longer, i admit that

[Naerys]

So my gut feeling about FL wagon was right. Shoul have pressed more for Klazam elim

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*should

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Nurse where are you? You were so hyped for this and then barely post

[Naerys]

Nurse where are you? You were so hyped for this and then barely post

I just FREAKING, POSTED. LADY.

Aggro RN = +1 townie point

[Naerys]

After ISO Klazam, point of focus: Hu Tao, CSF

[Naerys]

His pointing towards each of them feels different. Klazam belonged to one of the informed minorities, complained about having too low scum reads, and then he goes after Hu Tao/CSF. It feels off.

[Naerys]

By point of focus do you mean you think they may be red scum with Klazam, or want to look into them further? If the first, why do you think that the only two people he'd go after would be scumbuddies based on your reasoning?

I prefer to pick couple of people to whom i pay increased attention. Klazam admitted he likes to bus, so CSF could be his buddy. Tho i would see Hu Tao as wolf, tbh.

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seems odd you come out batting so quickly.

if you ingnor kazlam alignment based on their own play how do you read hu, cat


Also who do you think on happys wagon could be scum

Hu Tao feels different than in 2309, but it might be bcz this is large. I personally dont like the "anyone who visits me will regret it" post.

[Naerys]

Someone investigate Hu Tao

Please don't

I’m investigating you am I gonna die

Anyone who visits me, will regret it.

for reference to my prev post

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Now that i am looking at it i dont like the BBmolla- Hu Tao interaction at all.

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CSF´s town read of Klazam is a sus. Lets see if she will adress this.

[Naerys]

Read iso, seems weak for bob

I thought it was 'maybe' a tracker result or something


VOTE: Worst

Worst looks worse than Hu imo

Why?

[Naerys]

Assuming I'm not just wrong about goons looking "vanilla" to a complex role, I'm trying to figure out how a complex vig even makes sense. The only way it has utility is if scum has a PR, and the vig hits it. Even finding out someone is vanilla is only useful in a place where nobody ever fakeclaims as town. In a world with town fakeclaims, being complex isn't even a reliable lie detector.

Complex shouldnt work on goons

[Naerys]

Someone investigate Hu Tao

Please don't

I’m investigating you am I gonna die

Anyone who visits me, will regret it.

I personally dont like the "anyone who visits me will regret it" post.

Now that i am looking at it i dont like the BBmolla- Hu Tao interaction at all.

What do you not like about those posts?

Feels like Hu tao does not wish to be investigated. And the interaction with BBmolla is just weird if molla didnt claim i would say that its buddies having some fun.

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think how impressed everyone else will have to be if you don't fade me. a guy 90% confirmed scum and you somehow saw through the noise and let him live? and he turns out to be town. you'll be legends. scummies material ngl

This starts to feel as emotional blackmail. Anyway i think you are good eli for today, since your flip will help sorting JV and maybe molla a bit.

[Naerys]

Position	Players
Town-read	-
Town-lean	-
Null-town	-
Null	-
Null-scum	Flavor Leaf2
Scum-lean	Psyche1
Scum-read	-

¹ JV claims to have a guilty on Psyche, about a Loyal Fruit being given. Psyche refuses to clarify despite me asking MULTIPLE times for clarification. Psyche now says that he didn't receive any fruit, so someone's lying.

² Has called me Scum multiple times but when I confront him to explain himself he cowers back, multiple times.

Answer me.

why cant JV be telling the truth about targeting psyche with loyal fruit and psyche telling the truth about not getting one

Sure, it's possible, but unlikely.

it's more likely than JV fake claiming

So we are supposed to blindly believe jv? I dont

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I was on my way from work to home, relax RN.
VOTE: Psyche I think Psyche vs JV needs to get solved first. Either Psyche or JV lied, thats clear from their claims.

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Anyway I'm either opting for Psyche or RN for todays flip

Based on mini 2309 i think RN is town. I actually like his aggresivness, it can get some interesting reactions from ppl.

[Naerys]

You framing it like that feels like TMI

TMI? Can you explain that shortcut to the ignorant me?

[Naerys]

The only info i have is that Psyche should sue the fruit delivery service.

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Anyway I'm either opting for Psyche or RN for todays flip

Based on mini 2309 i think RN is town. I actually like his aggresivness, it can get some interesting reactions from ppl.

What was 2309. Was he town? Do you have context on how he plays as either? Have you played enough games to know how consistent his play is? Have you played a game which allows scum-hunting wolves?

2309 was mini, and yes he was town. He admitted himself that he is agressive as a town and i didnt really read his other games. He could be scum-hunting scum, fair. But flipping Psyche/ Hu comes to me as priority.

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The only info i have is that Psyche should sue the fruit delivery service.

Do you even know the mechanics around what the guilty actually is?

I was joking, relax.

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Anyway I'm either opting for Psyche or RN for todays flip

Based on mini 2309 i think RN is town. I actually like his aggresivness, it can get some interesting reactions from ppl.

What was 2309. Was he town? Do you have context on how he plays as either? Have you played enough games to know how consistent his play is? Have you played a game which allows scum-hunting wolves?

2309 was mini, and yes he was town. He admitted himself that he is agressive as a town and i didnt really read his other games. He could be scum-hunting scum, fair. But flipping Psyche/ Hu comes to me as priority.

Aka RN is Town bcuz you want Psyche/Hu instead.

I am inclined to TR RN bcz he feels similiar to 2309, which has been recent experience to me.

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The only info i have is that Psyche should sue the fruit delivery service.

Do you even know the mechanics around what the guilty actually is?

I was joking, relax.

I know you were hun. I'm asking you a seperate question

If i dont, will you educate me?

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you certainly are creating some wild scenarios,Psyche

[Naerys]

The only info i have is that Psyche should sue the fruit delivery service.

The Fruit Delivery service likely didn't deliver because they were never scheduled to. Not the Fruit Delivery's fault. Fruit Delivery should sue Psyche for defamation.

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I was on my way from work to home, relax RN.
VOTE: Psyche I think Psyche vs JV needs to get solved first. Either Psyche or JV lied, thats clear from their claims.

this is not true, there are TvT possibilities, but really it's just Psyche probs

If its TvT how does the quilty result comes into that,then. I cant wrap my mind about that

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I was on my way from work to home, relax RN.
VOTE: Psyche I think Psyche vs JV needs to get solved first. Either Psyche or JV lied, thats clear from their claims.

this is not true, there are TvT possibilities, but really it's just Psyche probs

If its TvT how does the quilty result comes into that,then. I cant wrap my mind about that

Loyal modifier means it can only target people of my alignment.
Fruit Vendor gives a person a piece of fruit which does nothing but show that a FV visited them.

I targeted Psyche with a Loyal Fruit Vendor. He never claimed to get one

MEANING

1. He is not aligned with me, aka a wolf.
2. He is Town with me as Town and something intercepted my ability (roleblocker, rolestopper, alien etc)
3. I am wolf and fake-claiming this

Thanks. Could perhaps scum roleblocker target you? Then it could be TvT

[Naerys]

Psyche, Hu Tao, and RN are all scum here anyways

This is closer to a hunch, but I bet you every single one of these reads are wrong.

Whom do you SR then?

[Naerys]

Are you such a gentleman that you wish Hu Tao to leave first?

[Naerys]

Psyche, Hu Tao, and RN are all scum here anyways

This is closer to a hunch, but I bet you every single one of these reads are wrong.

Whom do you SR then?

I don't have one. I've given them all up. I can work on some? But like, what's the point?

Feels like a resigned scum mentality. I personally would try atleast something, even if it would turn up wrong.

[Naerys]

Psyche, Hu Tao, and RN are all scum here anyways

This is closer to a hunch, but I bet you every single one of these reads are wrong.

Whom do you SR then?

I don't have one. I've given them all up. I can work on some? But like, what's the point?

Feels like a resigned scum mentality. I personally would try atleast something, even if it would turn up wrong.

It's resigned town. Maybe you'll learn the difference this game.

I suppose everybody reacts bit differently. I am quickly frustrated, i think i actually self-hammered once if i remember correctly. I try to do better now

[Naerys]

Hmm seems like he is oddly certain that Hu Tao would get shot.

[Naerys]

Conflating the results with the probability of success

this just an excuse. the probability of success was only high in your mind

Eliming vanilla whose play is admitedly weird is okayish imo.

[Naerys]

not to mention that like half the people on the iavh wagon barely even cared whether the slot was scummy so long as they could get to night before the weekend started

Huh? i didnt get that impression fro others at all

[Naerys]

Zzzzzz

Please finish this Hu Tao elim or I’m not voting the rest of the game

Whats the rush?

[Naerys]

im awake but i still don't feel like doing it this feels more a noonish type of activity

You dont have anything to lose, so you shouldnt be afraid of sharing some reads. Unless there is someone you do not wish to bring attention to

[Naerys]

Why do u wonder that ppl SR you again?

[Naerys]

I wouldnt be against changing my mind, but you are not helping yourself. At this point your behavior is scummy.

[Naerys]

You are proving me right.

[Naerys]

pisskop and aisa because of their replacements

I dont understand, you believe this slots are town, bcz they were replaced? I dont really consider replacement as AI

[Naerys]

wait what youre not shot limited??

It's in my ISO.

Your first claim was 2 shots bp

[Naerys]

I personally wouldnt mind JV flip, tbh. He might be easily lying. Not sure if scum teams would prefer of maybe hitting other scum instead of killing town PR

[Naerys]

VOTE: RN

Why are you voting here?

I personally wouldnt mind JV flip, tbh. He might be easily lying. Not sure if scum teams would prefer of maybe hitting other scum instead of killing town PR

Tell me more. How likely do you think JV is to be scum? I also can’t tell if you’re implying anything with your second sentence

How likely? I dont know. He was widely considered as town, i personaly dont trust him though. I am trying to think like a scum a bit - what would be more advantageous to them - killing a maybe other scum team or killing town PR? Hmm if JV is town then scum wants us to elim JV. Bcz after Psyche flip there naturally SHOULD be suspiction towards JV. Honestly, who doesnt suspect JV atleast a bit should be considered scummy.
As i said, i will not mind JV flip, but for now its not my priority. Just putting a "sus" label on that slot.

Sorry i am brainstorming a little

[Naerys]

Floating? Kek.

[Naerys]

I think you missed me being right about scum being on FL wagon, you missed me trying to coerce Psyche to give us some thoughts of his so he wouldnt end up limed, which unfortunately was not successful. I am sharing my thoughts and i am sharing names on which i focus my attention.

[Naerys]

My RL is bit dumped rn, since Hu Tao and FL got NKed. There is bunch of players that are much less active. Where is ZZZX? Save the dragons?
davesaz?shaddowez?

[Naerys]

RN pointed out that StD behaved like this in mini 2309. Well i would certainly try to look into the more lurking players right now. It would be nice, if atleast some of the mentioned in my previous post came here and told us, what they think about Psyche flip.

[Naerys]

In Mafia when was the last time you ever aggressively grilled someone?

Thats not my playstyle, i am not that kind of person.

[Naerys]

What do you think about Temporal Lich limp-wristed attempts to shade me throughout this game?

TL feels like misguided town to me. He is pretty consistent in his vote switching, also pretty consistent in wrong opinions.

[Naerys]

See, I keep forgetting Dave is in this game, and the thing about Dave is that I'm starting to be able to tell when he might be Scum.

Dave being lurky AF is... concerning.

Is he more active as town?

[Naerys]

What exactly are your thoughts on the JV/Psyche/BBM issue?

Either JV lied or some roleblocking happened, so Psyche didnt get his fruit. Perhaps scum blocked JV and Drew blocked Psyche? Actually molla is a good slot to solve too. If Psyche shot went through, molla still could be goon, right?

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Molla, dave, StD are the slots i am going to pay attention now.
VOTE: bbmolla

[Naerys]

I think STD may be a better option to pressure.

He lurks the most when Scum, but he sure was quick to come in and vote last wagon.

It reads to me that he's monitoring the game but way far out in the background, and frankly, I'm not comfortable with that.

You might have a point

[Naerys]

RN is not town

He played like this last time he was town. And they didnt play like this in either of there two scum games.

He also fake claimed bp as a traker. so if he was shot at its worth thinking who out of the player list might have thought he was doing the same gambit twice

i know worst, bbmola, me, dragon, naerys was in that game

What do you think about StD?

[Naerys]

RN is not town

How can you be certain?

[Naerys]

btw i wouldnt call molla confirmed vanilla, bcz there is still chance of this slot being goon

[Naerys]

I don't think JV would have much specific motivation as scum to claim this weird Loyal Fruit Vendor beyond "this is a weird claim that might get me townread".

I was already townread

I dont trust you. Simple.

[Naerys]

Thanks for ignoring everything to stick to that agenda

Can you atleast admit that psyche flipping green puts some doubt upon you?

[Naerys]

that it doesn't matter

Might be right in that. I want to focus on StD, dave and molla anyway

[Naerys]

I think Killing flavor means that people were afraid of his reads or were not afraid of the rest of us. We've had terrible luck with wagons.

There's also the fact he was a near UTR and posted a lot. I mean that's why

my

scumteam killed him, at least.

?? Your scumteam?

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I dont buy for a second that wasnt intentional lol

For what purpose though

[Naerys]

[Naerys]

happy bday the worst

[Naerys]

Ok, however unlike scum that’s trying to fake engagement I will continue my catch up tonight

This is actually a good point. There are some slots that i feel they are not really putting effort into catching up. Namely StD.

[Naerys]

UNVOTE: bbmolla
VOTE: Save The Dragons
Changed my mind on molla a bit, still in a null read though.
StD/dave is the way we should go imo.

[Naerys]

Cat Scratch Fever why did you town read klazam day one as i see you placed them in your top town tier but cant really see much about them in iso. ANd those two mentions were all in relation to Hu tao

CSF is to be considerd too. I feel like i am going in circles, tbh.

[Naerys]

i just posted a bunch

And yet you have barely provided content or engaged in this game.

You are playing exactly like you did as Scum in Mini 2309. All you've done is react when brought up and vote/make statements no actual reasoning underpinning it. When have you taken any initiative this game and engaged someone instead of lurking or angling for someone's lim when other players are on them?

In mini 2309 StD was frustrated bcz i pointed out his trolling post several times and wanted to vote him for that. His frustration at pointing out his inactivity here feels similiar.

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btw im not implying youre scum i legit dont have a meta read on you for that

you werent that active in WDM but you werent this aggresive at the start either, or maybe Flavor Leaf drowned it out idk

I got more invested as I started to get a better feel and understanding of this game. Earlier on I was basically swept away from the torrent of pages. When I start getting my bearings in a game as Town it's far easier for me to get more and more aggressive.

nurse you do realise snivy is just trying to cater to you. Its called scum trying to stay on good side of an aggressive town player, see how they are follwing your coat tails. Its just scum hoping a town player will do teh heavy lifting and thus the blow back from town misexecutions

Hmm.I still prefer StD flip, but this is something to consider. You raised a valid point.

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we know there's a roleblocker/rolestopper type role that targeted either them or Psyche on N1.

Drew could have targeted Psyche.

[Naerys]

True. Well i still believe StD needs to flip. We might have reached our solving point of the game.

[Naerys]

StD flips town

- attention will have to go to those, who are trying to divert us for a diff wagon, (bob, furtiveglance)

StD flips scum

-analyse votes out of the wagon, suspects like dave or CSF, or maybe possible bus from buddy?

[Naerys]

StD flips town

- attention will have to go to those, who are trying to divert us for a diff wagon, (bob, furtiveglance)

StD flips scum

-analyse votes out of the wagon, suspects like dave or CSF, or maybe possible bus from buddy?

Okay i am officialy braindead, mananged to mix up those 2. Ofc when StD flips town then go for dave or perhaps CSF and if flips scum then for bob or FG

[Naerys]

Look, i know how it looks like. A very bad and suspicious mistake. How my brain managed to mix up stuff like that is beyond me. All i can say is that its honest mistake. I am not a scum.

[Naerys]

StD flips town

- attention will have to go to those, who are trying to divert us for a diff wagon, (bob, furtiveglance)

StD flips scum

-analyse votes out of the wagon, suspects like dave or CSF, or maybe possible bus from buddy?

Okay i am officialy braindead, mananged to mix up those 2. Ofc when StD flips town then go for dave or perhaps CSF and if flips scum then for bob or FG

I mean... ignoring the fact that townies can be wrong and scum can bus, isn't this an idea you can literally apply to any wagon?

Aisa flips town - pay attention to who wanted her eliminated!!
Aisa flips scum - pay attention to who wanted to protect her!

Is there a reason you're mentioning it now?

I have more thoughts on the general gamestate forthcoming

No, i am posting my thoughts as they go. And i believe StD flip will help to sort few ppl - bob,furtive. I feel like if StD is scum, atleast one of them might be scum too. I will welcome your input though.

[Naerys]

I'd still be curious to hear a bit more about why you think STD is a good flip right now

StD lurks, didnt really engage the game untill very recently. In mini 2309 he was scum and played in similiar way. Although i admit his claim is something to consider. I dont really have any solid feeling on others so i stick for now with StD. Dave and Snivy look like decent suspects. But constantly switching opinion from one to another is harmful, i believe. So i am willing to change my opinion but StD is something like a solid rock i am standing on.

[Naerys]

What a time to decide to vote off the point. Do you have any other SRs?

worst, CSF, CCS, naerys, and enchant in ascending order

Huh?

[Naerys]

StD flips town

- attention will have to go to those, who are trying to divert us for a diff wagon, (bob, furtiveglance)

StD flips scum

-analyse votes out of the wagon, suspects like dave or CSF, or maybe possible bus from buddy?

How does this make sense to you? Attention will go to those who tried to prevent a mislim?

Already wrote that it was a derp.

[Naerys]

Known/Claimed Kill Abilities -

Scum

,

Wolf

,

Psyche (Vig)

, JV (JoaT Vig, 1x)
Known/Claimed Roleblocking Abilities -

DoctorDrew (RB)

, StD (RB)
Known/Claimed Other Abilities - JV (JoaT FV)

Assuming JV is town

N1

- Based on kill actions/claims, there should have been 3 kills.

Psyche

claimed to have shot at BBM, which failed due to a vanilla claim by BBM in 3169,

after

Psyche revealed his complex modifier in 3155. JV claims to have attempted to Loyal FV

Psyche

, which didn't happen.

DoctorDrew

could have roleblocked JV, which seems unlikely. In 4410 StD claims to have blocked RN, which changes nothing about the events.

At this point, Psyche's claim makes sense and also explains why there were only 2 kills. Unless there's a

third

roleblock/stop ability out there, the FV should have worked unless Scum!StD actually blocked JV, not RN like he's claiming.

N2

- Based on kill actions/claims, there should have been 3 kills. StD claims to have blocked and JV claims to have shot

Hu Tao

. Considering this is after the flips, there's no way to confirm/deny alignment since HT was vanilla. However, this doesn't explain the lack of a kill, which again leads to the possibility of a third blocker. Another options is Scum!StD blocked JV, not

Hu Tao

like claimed.

Assuming JV is scum (with a fakeclaim)

N1

- JV doesn't actually FV Psyche. StD

could

still be scum, but their alignment doesn't matter as much in this scenario. All other actions play out the same as in the previous scenario.

N2

- If Scum!JV exists and JoaT was a fakeclaim, there's no missing third shot. Again, StD

could

still be scum, but their alignment doesn't matter as much in this scenario. All other actions play out the same as in the previous scenario.

I've been TRing JV a heck of a lot harder than I have StD this game, but the second scenario almost makes more sense. While the presence of a second Town RB is questionable, the existence of 2 Town RB

plus

another roleblocking/stopping action is almost implausible.

JV reaction at my mistrust towards him seemed genuine though.

[Naerys]

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This post has more content than STD iso

I dont like your posts very much.

[Naerys]

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This post has more content than STD iso

I dont like your posts very much.

You will be nightkilled.

The joy, really.

[Naerys]

This is a mess, *sigh*

[Naerys]

dave is not a good lim for today imo

Why not? Who is good lim for u then?

[Naerys]

So we've got players redirecting hard against the dave wagon AND the STD wagon

Who do you think is the most trying to push you as a lim?

[Naerys]

Anyone looked deeper into TL if his misguided townie vibes are real or not?

[Naerys]

that's my discussion

enchant is scummy because enchant is mostly trolling

Thats why i first voted you in 2309

[Naerys]

i have meta on enchant trolling as scum and doing stuff as town

and not this one game meta that you people keep spouting

i dont like enchants posts very much so i am willing to consider this

[Naerys]

plus zzzx was scummy

I didnt like ZZZX vm either, but it wasnt anything tangible, just a feeling
hm..

[Naerys]

Actually kinda wanna go here
VOTE: Naerys

Reasons?

[Naerys]

Sorry had a hard day in work btw, tmorrow i will have more time to post. I am curious to see what JV made to vote me.

[Naerys]

JV i believe i asked you something.

[Naerys]

You are as funny as smelly socks

[Naerys]

Aisa is mafia

How do you know?

[Naerys]

The issue is that this game has a lot of players who are similarly difficult to read for me. I have like 2 confident townreads, a few players who are "meh, they can live for now", and no idea on everyone else.

Who are your confident townreads, then?

[Naerys]

do you know what, loyal vig

That's what I'm gonna put my game

Are you claiming?

[Naerys]

that's not a claim lol

My bad, then.

[Naerys]

anyone wanna pitch some wagons to me or something like that im admitting becoming lazier

I am willing to wagon you if it comes to that

[Naerys]

naeryus or however you spell it is also a good choice for targetting a lurker tbh

I dont lurk i work irl smh

[Naerys]

are still no takers for snivy, wagonomics says shoot there or atleast soemone that jumped on both hu wagon last day and dragon here

well his little snipe at me felt like a testing of "waters"

[Naerys]

Kinda feels like we hit a stale point. Anybody else feels like we are stuck in a mud?

[Naerys]

are still no takers for snivy, wagonomics says shoot there or atleast soemone that jumped on both hu wagon last day and dragon here

curious to see you talk about wagonomics, when you spent whole D1 voting om Hu Tao, lol

[Naerys]

Are you really asking someone who was vla why their vote didn't move?

At that point bob already wrote that his vla was over.

[Naerys]

I find it suspicious that Hu Tao didn't vote anyone this day.

Keep trolling and i actually might switch my vote lol

[Naerys]

Anyone have links to the Day 1 and Day 2 vote counts?

just iso mod

[Naerys]

Okay I have changed my mind.

Cat Scratch Fever, Aisa, BBMolla, the worst,

I think we lynch in between these people today.

Nope sorry, i am not joining that

[Naerys]

gob barely posted anything and i already feel strong distrust toward that slot

[Naerys]

thats some dedication, respect

[Naerys]

Okay I have changed my mind.

Cat Scratch Fever, Aisa, BBMolla, the worst,

I think we lynch in between these people today.

Nope sorry, i am not joining that

Why Not?

i have ppl i suspect more than those

[Naerys]

Okay I have changed my mind.

Cat Scratch Fever, Aisa, BBMolla, the worst,

I think we lynch in between these people today.

Nope sorry, i am not joining that

Why Not?

i have ppl i suspect more than those

Like who? You seem awfully adverse to looking at other people.

me not looking at other pp? thats blatant lie
Std, Snivy,you,JV,

[Naerys]

Yes, these are my suspects.

[Naerys]

cCS is a nullread by dayplay and a townread by VCA

curious, bob scumreads snivy for his voting actions

[Naerys]

Actually i might swap snivy for bob in my suspiction list

[Naerys]

Also i dont really like furtive´s positioning on dave wagon.

[Naerys]

"My students... they say Linear Algebra is easy... but then we get to eigenvectors and it is important you do it right! I know ballet!"

Day 1 VC 2:

Flavor Leaf (5): BBMolla, Klazam, Flavor Leaf, ZZZX, Hu Tao
furtiveglance (3): Psyche, biancospino, the worst
Psyche (2): shaddowez, TemporalLich
Flavia (1): camelCasedSnivy
Shrek (1): Naerys
Merlyn (1): davesaz
Hu Tao (1): Merlyn
ZZZX (1): Save The Dragons
Random Nurse (1): iamveryhappy

Klazam (1): Shrek

Not voting (6): Random Nurse, KittyTacky, Flavia, bob3141, furtiveglance, JacksonVirgo

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-19 17:13:00)

MOD NOTES: bob3141 and the worst are V/LA. Also wow, I forgot how annoying doing VC's is

I know its RVS but former Shrek(now gob) voting his buddy as a joke might be something to consider. My gut tells me this is the way

UNVOTE: StD
VOTE: gob

[Naerys]

Hey all. I'm here. Been sick with a cold the last two nights.

I am asking to be V/LA until Monday morning, please.

Get well soon.

[Naerys]

Anyone remember why ZZZX's initial wagon on d1 disappeared?
By VCs alone iavh as a counter to zzzx makes sense. Not sure I want to sift through 100 pages that blew by too fast to remember it all.
Enchant (the slot formerly known as zzzx) is active, but are they solving?

Enchant is mostly trolling around, tbh.

[Naerys]

[Naerys]

Sorry Lich, but i disregard your opinions since d1

[Naerys]

why are you trying to push a mislim?

How do u know its a mislim? You cant know that

[Naerys]

The worst doesnt seem to be compared to 2309 mini. This is note for myself so i dont fget this

[Naerys]

*solving
A word managed to run from me

[Naerys]

We could start with posting our most suspected and then trying to reach some compromise
Mine are

StD,Snivy,gob,JV,enchant,the worst

[Naerys]

i think we are just goign to have to pick between one of dave, camel and dragon as its day and half to teh deadline

i would go for either dave or camel, i think dragon is town and there claimed pr could have some use latter in game.

Its not liek town roleblock is even a great fake claim for scum as with drews flip it would be of been better to claim vt or another role e.g. vannilla cop. that way his faction could have fished for 2 pr/vannilla roles

Have u seen 2 roleblocks in one game? I didnt, StD claim IS s sus

[Naerys]

I have been thinking and elim std is the best choice, if he flips town we dont lose much and if he flips scum we will need to investigate bob amd furtive
UNVOTE: Gob
VOTE: Save the dragons

[Naerys]

Having doubles is not something completely unheard for. I suspect STD claim for other reasons.

Bob seems too sure fot my liking.

[Naerys]

alternatively im probably a good night kill for scum because i can block them

so maybe im worth seeing if i die overnight

Nice try but nope

[Naerys]

VOTE: Naerys

were iam now is that dave and deragon are town and scum from both factions are content.

and nearys pushes have been leaving me with scum pings

I am not pushing. If i were pushing, i would actually try to make ppl vote u, which i am not. I am merely stating that u are sus.

[Naerys]

I would like to vote BBmolla today if possible, would anyone like to join me on that wagon?

Why molla? Why should we cancel our well made wagon and jump on somebody that was completely out of discussion?

[Naerys]

Lol what xD

[Naerys]

Yes its a maybe, but in my previous game my gut feeling at the beginning was correct

UNVOTE: Shrek
VOTE: Klazam

was this a distancing attempt between you and kazlam

[Naerys]

May i remind you bob, that i voted Klazam bcz i believed there was a scum on Flavor wagon? And i was right in that. Unfortunately i got distracted from pursuing that slot.

[Naerys]

so thats four flipped townies youve either wagoned or pushed.

happy, Hu tao, P and undoubtly now dragon

And one red flip that you faked a push on. As the effort no where compares to your pushes else where,

I am playing in the same way as in 2309. When i was town, mind you.

[Naerys]

May i remind you bob, that i voted Klazam bcz i believed there was a scum on Flavor wagon? And i was right in that. Unfortunately i got distracted from pursuing that slot.

But no follow up, and thats what scummy and what scum do all time.


Which exactly matches what kim did in teh last game me, Hu, you, dragon and nurse played together

What kind of follow up would you like? Finding all blue and reds in one day? I am not omnipotent.

[Naerys]

you should probably just kill me so that the players with their heads in their butts can realize scum lead them onto a bad wagon

If it was a bad wagon there wouldn't be this much extreme resistance.

remember how you pushed me over kim in prior game. well you doing it no with dragon and nearys.

Pushing dragon whereas its nearys that scum. see how nearys is reacting teh same to pushes as kim did to my push on them in that last game

DO YOU REALISE THAT YOU ARE COMPARING 2 DIFFERENT PPL WITH DIFFERENT REACTIONS AND DIFFERENT PLAYSTYLES?