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@Dunn - If I were conf town, who would be the scum team for you?CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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From my POV, it is always 1 of Celeb/Bingle, Maestro, and then one of Dunn/Naerys/Hu Tao.
I don't think there's any chance it isn't this, bar Maestro somehow being town with scum just not ending the game.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
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"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Yeah, I'm pretty comfortable with you Naerys. Especially after Maestro becomes confirmed scum for me.
I think Hu Tao is outing themselves to me here on purpose and going for the victory, personally.
Means it's probably Bingle, Hu tao, Maestro with the off chance of it being Hu Tao, Celeb, Maestro. It looks like they're trying to misfade Celeb, though.
That being said there is the play where they're waiting for someone to vote Bingle, and then the 3 of them flip.
Or Hu Tao is town with the wrong solve, in which case, gg.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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@Dunnstral - Do you believe this happened here? If I am scum with Celebloki, Bingle would be town who swore that I am town this game from the very beginning of the game to the point where they would eat Titus' hat.In post 2354, Flavor Leaf wrote: Just something that factually has to be true to consider me as scum here.
It's fine to think I'm scum here, but it also 100% means you MUST believe I hard pocketed Bingle since Day 1 of this game.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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@Dunn - I know I've burned you in the past. It's not happening here. I am town. If you're town, we have to come together.
I think Naerys is town here too.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Naerys, we're fucked. lol.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Bingle has town read me since the beginning of the game super confidently. Bingle has touted that they could catch me if I were scum very confidently as well.In post 770, Bingle wrote:
And yet, how many times have I been wrong when I soulread you?In post 718, Flavor Leaf wrote: I actively fuck with my scum meta constantly to get people to think they know how to meta me, and then they get screwed over.
btw, FL is town here, take it to the bank.
I want Hu Tao and Dunn to both say they think I've pocketed Bingle since the very beginning of the game, please.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Day 1 VC
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Day 2 VC
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VC 3.1
Bingle (2):, NaerysRoden
Elements (1):Thomith
Not voting (6): Hu Tao, Dunnstral, Celebloki, Flavor Leaf, Bingle, Elements
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(3): Hu Tao, Flavor Leaf,RodenThomith
Bingle (2):, NaerysRoden
Maestro (1): Bingle
Not voting (3): Dunnstral, Celebloki, Maestro
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(4): Flavor Leaf,Roden, Bingle, Hu TaoThomith
Bingle (1): Naerys
Celebloki (1):Roden
Not voting (3): Dunnstral, Celebloki, Maestro
VC 3.4 (labeled as 2nd 3.3)
(5): Flavor Leaf,Roden, Bingle, Hu Tao, CeleblokiThomith
Bingle (1): Naerys
Celebloki (1):Roden
Not voting (2): Dunnstral, Maestro
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Celebloki (2): Bingle, Maestro
Maestro (1): Flavor Leaf
Not voting (4): Hu Tao, Dunnstral, Celebloki, NaerysCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Alright, Dunnstral.
It's on you. I think you are the clutch vote.
I believe the team to be exactly Maestro, Hu Tao, Bingle.
I'm pretty confident in that solve.
Hu Tao is puckering you up to vote Celeb or myself because that wins them the game.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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I think Celeb stayed alive so I stayed in the pool.
And while Thomith is a Jailkeeper, I feel like Thomith was killed not because of them being a PR, but because they were town reading me.
On top of that, I actively was in a town core with Wiz + Thomith. Wiz died because they would have confirmed Celeb as a Neap.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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This is a scum claim for multiple reasons:In post 2351, Hu Tao wrote: I'm leaning celeb and flavor scum. Trying to find the last
1: It implies Hu Tao thinks that I hard pocketed Bingle from the very beginning of the game. Dunn also would need to think this, but I feel like Dunn wasn't in finished analyzing mode, where as it's obvious Hu Tao's looking to pounce.
2: Hu Tao said "still looking for a 3rd". This is the big one. From a Town Tao POV, they know that it's one of Bingle/Celeb. They picked Celeb. They know it's one of Maestro/Flavor. They chose Flavor. They are directly agreeing with Dunnstral's point. This literally only leaves Naerys. How are they "still looking for a 3rd"?
In addition to the case I pushed on them early on in the game, starting Day 1. Hu Tao was expecting to be the one to 1v1 Celebloki here, and hoping to over Bingle. Bingle was not trying to have Celebloki target me because I got pigeonhole defended behind Celebloki.
My town core has been dying off.
First Kyouko, who I pushed as never being scum based on the way they made their case on Gob.
Then Wiz and Thomith, 2 players I've been town locked with since the beginning of the game.
I am confident that scum is Hu Tao/Maestro. Celebloki doesn't die because if Celebloki died last night, I'd be confirmed town, and Thomith and I would be linked up incredibly tight. Thomith is NOT a kill I make with 3 scum alive.
Dunnstral, you are the clutch vote. Please see why Naerys and I are town here.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Nah, it’s Hu Tao over Naerys imo.
I can see it as Maestro/Celeb/Hu Tao, but Naerys was pushing Maestro slot for a while, and Maestro is the only conf scum from my povCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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And Hu Tao was blanket defending RCE, and inching Dunn closer to voting.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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They don’t realize that because they are scum, Tao. Probably with you.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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This is literally a scum claim.In post 2379, Maestro wrote: bc no quickhammer? tell me more, oh wise oneCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Word choice of is instead of ‘should be’ is suspicious here.In post 2378, Hu Tao wrote:
? You realize flavor is confirmed scum to you right..In post 2377, Maestro wrote: tbh I think FLeaf has way less idea what's going on than he thinks
& it's very personally annoying/disruptive to me that he's refusing to read my posts or whatev, but I think the little break I took made this bs clear to more ppl; you're just reaching & you barely have an idea who Scum is... we have a fake guilty here, or at least a 1v1, and yet you're reachign w multuipkle different combinations of bs "Solves" & calling Naerys town when they've been coasting, leaning on Dunnstral who has also been kinda whatever- & you're just all over, man
like stop positioning yourself as some kind of Town lead
Because I am 100% not confirmed scum to them here, and you can see it in their play, and if they were town, I would be confirmed scum to them.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Hu Tao, if you’re town here and can’t see why Maestro is scum here, don’t know what to tell yaCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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It’s like always Maestro and Celebloki here. 3rd is up for debate, I guess.
But yeah, Hu Tao, nice ignoring of the Bingle had to have been HARD pocketed for me to be scum comments.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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@Bingle - from your POV, town reading me as you say you do, you see why Maestro is also conf scum here.
There is merit in fading Maestro here, and letting Celebloki Neap again, if only to force them to tie a string together with them.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Celeb can’t die as town because it’ll confirm me as town and Bingle as scum, and Celeb, as scum, has to kill in either Hu Tao/Naerys/Dunnstral/Flavor Leaf.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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@Bingle - Naerys and Maestro aren’t scum together imo. Naerys wanted that slot dead yesterday, and i dont think that was bussing.
Maestro is always scum here, and I’ve been saying that since RCE was still in the game, at least to Day 2.
Hu Tao has ties there for giving that slot a pass and zero evolution of that read throughout this game—i had the same pass for RCE early, but RCE did a complete 180 from what they did to me the last time they were scum where they called me scum all game and did nothing, here they just did the flip and called me town all game.
Also, Day 2 ending on Cakez heavily implies scum in you and Hu Tao based on the whole Bingle vs Hu Tao.
That’s also another town case for me because Cakez was pushing Hu Tao. I also just don’t take Hu Tao into this late game scenario like this.
The BIGGEST thing that shows that I am town, is why do I have Celebloki claim a Guilty on BINGLE over Hu Tao here.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
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Also, the entirety of 2375 is to appease to Dunnstral.
It’s clear scum are playing to get Dunnstral’s misvote.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Maestro also slipped in 2375, by the way.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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From Hu Tao's POV, with this, the last would have to be in Dunnstral or Naerys. They had just agreed with Dunnstral right before this, so it makes no sense for Hu Tao not to say who they're leaning for the 3rd.In post 2351, Hu Tao wrote: I'm leaning celeb and flavor scum. Trying to find the last
From Hu Tao's perspective, it should be 1 of Bingle/Celeb, 1 of Flavor/Maestro, and 1 of Naerys/Dunnstral, and the omit of that last one proves to me they are scum.
100% this is avoiding have to take a stance on the remaining 2 because they need one of their votes to win.
Hu Tao's reads objectively are lined up with Maestro's. They are teamed together.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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In post 2371, Bingle wrote:It’s really not fleaf. I think m is voting with me because it’s a safe play. If they get support on me, he can just hammer. The lim is never outside of me celeb, so poisoning the well on the celeb wagon with a shit vote just makes sense, and if we vote right and get to see tomorrow he looks better because he jumped onto celeb early.
He just really didn’t expect me to have such strength in my fleaf read.
ex-cuse me? shit vote?on the person that fake-guiltied?in a setup this power-heavy where they're claiming another full PR!?
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this right here is a scum slip, regardless of who is scum in Bingle or Celebloki.
They have come to the foregone conclusion that Celebloki has 100% fake guiltied with how this is worded.
This means they are either scum who knows Celeb is town and has to discredit Celeb's read further
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that they know Celeb is scum who fake guiltied Bingle.
I am coming from the perspective that knows they are scum, of course, so this is 100% a legitimate slip. Whether it convinces you or not, post game it will show.
Scum are actively trying to lead Dunnstral (or myself, I would say) into voting CeleblokiCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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this. I messed the quote up in that last one.In post 2375, Maestro wrote: [
In post 2369, Hu Tao wrote:
You don't think flavors jump on maestro was equally as bad btw?In post 2345, Naerys wrote: Maestro hopping on Cele is either really bad play or scummy. It kinda reeks with trying to put some psychological pressure on us. Sheepier townies would give in to that and allow speedy mislim.
I dont like Celebloki´s hammer and his reasoning for it, but that Maestro´s vote... the more i think about the less i like it. Its timing, they way he voted.
I dont think i can see a universe where Cele+Maestro are alligned? For scum to fake guilty and his buddy trying to buss him at this point does not make sense. Bingle and Maestro probably buddies
Therefore Bingle+Maestro+Dunn feels rather likely to me
Hu isn't scum w/ Flavor, which we kindas knew; but I could see Naerys/FLeaf/Celeb easily after some of the last page or2
In post 2371, Bingle wrote:It’s really not fleaf. I think m is voting with me because it’s a safe play. If they get support on me, he can just hammer. The lim is never outside of me celeb, so poisoning the well on the celeb wagon with a shit vote just makes sense, and if we vote right and get to see tomorrow he looks better because he jumped onto celeb early.
He just really didn’t expect me to have such strength in my fleaf read.
ex-cuse me? shit vote?on the person that fake-guiltied?in a setup this power-heavy where they're claiming another full PR!?CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Dunnstral/Naerys - I have screwed you both over in the past, I know, but I am NOT doing that here. We have to line up today, and it's not easy, especially because I think Bingle has spent all game long trying to get to a situation like this, but I am leaning that it is Bingle here over Celebloki.
Bingle/Maestro/Hu Tao here.
Hu Tao's lack of acknowledgement for the fact that if I am scum, I would have had to HARD pocket Bingle here. Just no other possibility in that case.
This is because Hu Tao knows I didn't pocket Bingle because they are partners.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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I agree.In post 2394, Dunnstral wrote:
Well I think you're mafia for being manipulative in this game and repeatedly pushing town and then trying to shift blameIn post 2362, Flavor Leaf wrote: @Dunn - I know I've burned you in the past. It's not happening here. I am town. If you're town, we have to come together.
I think Naerys is town here too.
But the ones who DIED at night are the ones that were town reading me AND that I was town reading since Day 1.
But if you think so, then let's end it. If it's an aimless effort, let's end the game and move on.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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In post 2393, Dunnstral wrote:
Celeboki and Maestro, and then 1 more, probably between Naerys and BingleIn post 2355, Flavor Leaf wrote: @Dunn - If I were conf town, who would be the scum team for you?
Celeb cant be scum with Bingle.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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They couldn't die. As town, If they did, I become conf town.In post 2398, Dunnstral wrote:
Well to me Celebloki seems to be the most likely mafia given flips and them not dying at night.In post 2368, Flavor Leaf wrote:
This is a scum claim for multiple reasons:In post 2351, Hu Tao wrote: I'm leaning celeb and flavor scum. Trying to find the last
1: It implies Hu Tao thinks that I hard pocketed Bingle from the very beginning of the game. Dunn also would need to think this, but I feel like Dunn wasn't in finished analyzing mode, where as it's obvious Hu Tao's looking to pounce.
2: Hu Tao said "still looking for a 3rd". This is the big one. From a Town Tao POV, they know that it's one of Bingle/Celeb. They picked Celeb. They know it's one of Maestro/Flavor. They chose Flavor. They are directly agreeing with Dunnstral's point. This literally only leaves Naerys. How are they "still looking for a 3rd"?
In addition to the case I pushed on them early on in the game, starting Day 1. Hu Tao was expecting to be the one to 1v1 Celebloki here, and hoping to over Bingle. Bingle was not trying to have Celebloki target me because I got pigeonhole defended behind Celebloki.
My town core has been dying off.
First Kyouko, who I pushed as never being scum based on the way they made their case on Gob.
Then Wiz and Thomith, 2 players I've been town locked with since the beginning of the game.
I am confident that scum is Hu Tao/Maestro. Celebloki doesn't die because if Celebloki died last night, I'd be confirmed town, and Thomith and I would be linked up incredibly tight. Thomith is NOT a kill I make with 3 scum alive.
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In post 154, Flavor Leaf wrote: I’m playing in a Timothy-AWiz town core mode.This is one example from Day 1. This happened throughout the game. I went back and forth for like a second on each of them, but on Day 3, I specifically stated if Thomith is scum, I'm content letting them win. I'll find that for you as well.
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Celeb claimed Not VT on Bingle, Bingle claimed Vanilla. This means one of them are lying.In post 2402, Dunnstral wrote:
Why not?In post 2399, Flavor Leaf wrote:In post 2393, Dunnstral wrote:
Celeboki and Maestro, and then 1 more, probably between Naerys and BingleIn post 2355, Flavor Leaf wrote: @Dunn - If I were conf town, who would be the scum team for you?
Celeb cant be scum with Bingle.
In theory, I guess they both could be scum and gambiting, but Bingle specifically stated, they didnt want Celeb to target me.
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If I were scum, i'd be completely setup that if Celeb and I went down as scum, that my partner would be able to make it through the game alone, and the only other possibility of my partner is Naerys, and that's the most surface scum team out there.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Dunn, it is Maestro, Bingle, and Hu Tao.
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i am least sure on Bingle, it could be Celeb.
But they are inching their way to try and get you to vote Celeb.
3 of the 7 players alive here are aligned and are 1 misfade away from victory. They need 1 single town member to misvote.
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I've cased them literally all game since Day 1...they were my main push on Day 2, and then even on Day 3 I pushed it was Roden and Hu Tao...In post 2412, Dunnstral wrote: Why is it Hu Tao?
and I literally just cased them last page...
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In post 872, Flavor Leaf wrote:In post 682, Flavor Leaf wrote: UNVOTE: Gob
Day got juicier.
Hu Tao TMI’ing Gob possibility tips the scale to where I think Gob is more likely to flip town than scum, whereas before the chance was more likely scum than town, which is always a good roll on Day 1.
Gob got White Knighted.
Fun thing about this is both Gob and Wiz were my candidates. It’s possible they are both town.
I don’t think I was hiding it very well, but I think Hu Tao is pretty obv scum here.
Not necessarily caring about their fade today because I think it’s just infinitely hard to fade someone like Hu Tao Scum on a Day 1, also in ways it’s not worth it sometimes.
But by their own admission, they were trying to ‘do nothing’ to get town read. This means they are actively trying to position themselves in a specific way in the game.
On top of this, when I stated they had done things already, they were salty because they thought they had ‘literally done nothing’. That reeks of scum being upset they got caught for wrong reasons.
Now the advocate for Vig on FL after I advocated for Cop on Hu Tao.
I would say bar a couple players, I am generally a solid town read player for most players. The difference is, I’m wanting Hu Tao checked, which if they are town, is very beneficial in the long run, especially towards someone who has been actively trying to become town read.
By their own admission, they’ve been ‘doing nothing’ on purpose to get town read, and that’s like the perfect investigative action onto a slot that’s in the background like that, and especially on a sneaky scum like her.
She advocates for a Vig on me, taking me out of the game.
That is a direct Threat Challenging of me. I want to town read Hu Tao if she’s town.
She wants me to die.
She doesn’t have to worry about reading me here.
It also helps guide a Vig off of scum team and onto a claimed Vanilla Townie.
If I am the only death, and ANYONE claims Vig, Hu Tao is scum here.
None of that maybe Vig targeted same player, maybe someone protected.
I have coasted so many games from a Vig claim, partner Vig claim, that I know how to set things up like that.
That is a potential crumb setup by Hu Tao in case they get Gunsmith guiltied they have that to fall back on.In post 685, Flavor Leaf wrote: And let me say, it’s not one of these that make Hu Tao scum, it is the collection of these together.
Individually, some of these could be townie even, but together, Hu Tao is a scum slot.In post 687, Flavor Leaf wrote:Celebloki
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Bout where I'm at. I think there's probably 1 scum in my top 2 tiers, and then 2 scum in my bottom 3. This is more doing pools rather than a tier list, like for instance, I can make a Bingle/Kyouko town case, but I am paranoid of Bingle. Like I have a hard time seeing Kyouko make that case on Gob as scum, however, the Kyouko/Hu Tao on AnimatedWiz earlier is hard to not see it as potential partner, however, this goes in Hu Tao favor if scum Tao/kyouko town.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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I called out Gob and Wiz as both likely to be town ( i did push Gob heavily at one point, but I was actively calling them town, and it was just time to get them)
I was correct on Kyouko when I said they were likely town for the Gob case.
I was correct on Thomith.
I called out that Kyouko/Hu Tao on Animated Wiz likely had scum on it, and makes a lot of sense for Hu TaoScum/Kyouko town.
With Wiz also flipping town, Hu Tao is almost always scum here.
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I was one of the main players pushing Celebloki on Day 2, I don't push my partner to make a claim like that.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Wiz called this team out, and I believe this is at least 2 for 3. I don't think they were right about Dunn, but they are also town reading Naerys here.In post 878, AnimatedWiz wrote: I could see a world where it’sDunn plus Bingle and RCEnigma,but I do think my read on Dunn is the strongest out of the 3 by far. I don’t like how he jumped to join Kyouko’s vote on me D1 with no explanation other than sheeping and then today claimI’mthe one sitting back trying to be quiet when I’ve made twice the posts he has.
I don’t think all votes on me are instantly scummy, but I think a lack of solid reasoning for those votesis(the people who were with me in my last game can recount how I townread people voting me D1 and D2 because I agreed with their points). Dunn isn’t very convincing to me because the reasons he gives are very surface-level, and I do think he’s trying to get rid of me because I’m scumreading him.
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In post 958, Flavor Leaf wrote: Yeah, I was hard town reading Celeblokiyesterday, but some of the things they’ve been saying today just ping me.
And i don’t remember ever being pinged when they are actually scum, even when i would go over the possibility of them being scum.
I only have one game where i had to read them, though, the other i was scum and they were town.
Their reads list looks political tooIn post 959, Flavor Leaf wrote: I just don’t really buy Hu Tao as a top town read here.
Even by Hu Tao’s own statement, they haven’t really done much.
And while I scum read Hu Tao, it doesn’t mean I think they’re always scum here, and I might think that I lean town Hu Tao because I’m scum reading them, if that makes sense.
But the very top? Hu Tao? Someone who actively gets town read as scum?
Yeah, I don’t buy that.
The post they made before Thomith voted also pinged me a little, the “I’m back” kinda post.
I didn’t want to go off of just that, but with the political reads list, Celebloki dropped a bunch for me.
I feel it’s possible Celeb/Dunn?
But Cakez is right, we definitely should take some time for today.
Okay, so I was seeing Hu Tao/Celeb team at the time, this is actually good points for Bingle.In post 960, Flavor Leaf wrote: The reason it doesn’t ping me as much when Thomith puts Hu Tao to the top is because if Hu Tao is in fact scum, even if they aren’t at this point, then Hu Tao setup that pocket on Thomith early.
And even if Hu Tao town, I can still see a world where the 2 of them specifically just found each other as town.
That’s the difference between Thomith putting Hu Tao at the top and Celeb here.
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this is also a scum slip.In post 2377, Maestro wrote: tbh I think FLeaf has way less idea what's going on than he thinks
If I were scum in this scenario, I would know absolutely everything.
They know I am not scum here, and it shows in their posts.
Hu Tao also has started to distance themselves, as did Bingle.
I am not confident in Bingle/Celebloki.
However, for Celeb and I be to scum together, you have to believe 1: I HARD pocketed Bingle, and 2: I chose to try and misfade Bingle for the game winning fade, which no, Hu Tao has been my push all game, it would always be Hu Tao.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Sure, that's why I think they got killed as a main reason, supplementary reason was because they were my town core.In post 2424, Dunnstral wrote:
Well I feel that you had a big part in pushing through a lot of the miseliminations like RodenIn post 2418, Flavor Leaf wrote: I called out Gob and Wiz as both likely to be town ( i did push Gob heavily at one point, but I was actively calling them town, and it was just time to get them)
I was correct on Kyouko when I said they were likely town for the Gob case.
I was correct on Thomith.
I called out that Kyouko/Hu Tao on Animated Wiz likely had scum on it, and makes a lot of sense for Hu TaoScum/Kyouko town.
With Wiz also flipping town, Hu Tao is almost always scum here.
IN ADDITION, they had already lined up the Bingle/Celeb 1v1, then the Maestro/FL 1v1, and yet fence sit for Naerys/Dunnstral DESPITE talking about town reading you.
but do you think I choose to kill them? I'm a day play scum player, and you know this. I can easily play around PR's like that, and losing their voice hurt me a lot more.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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I also then ended up here, thinking Dunn/Wiz was town town. I then called out RCE as the scum slot.In post 966, Flavor Leaf wrote: I have someone else I want to put some pressure on, but I think I want to wait a bit for people to come in and react to the current things before I move on.
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In post 1013, Hu Tao wrote: Why are you so against Dunn or wiz today?In post 1014, Flavor Leaf wrote:
i town read Wiz, and im not feeling DunnScum anymore, Bingle convinced me.In post 1013, Hu Tao wrote: Why are you so against Dunn or wiz today?
I'm usually pretty good at reading Dunn too.orly now.
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Hu Tao also protected the 3 people who were hard town reading them thinking there was like no chance of a scum pocketing. They defended the people who were town reading them because she knew they were in her pocket.In post 1033, Hu Tao wrote:
Cele could be scum sure, but I would prefer Dunn right now.In post 1025, Flavor Leaf wrote: I don’t remember ever thinking Celebloki was fluffy before.
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they're free to.In post 2429, Dunnstral wrote: I want to give other people a chance to respond too.
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In post 1049, Celebloki wrote: Then vote me out to break up some of those misconceptions. See my flip and maybe let the game start progressing instead of flaccidly plodding along. Pay attention to who let me egg them onto my wagon and who avoided it with a ten foot pole.
At this point I do think FL is probably scum.I think Thomith is confused about what I going on about and Naerys let me egg her onto my wagon. Maybe Bingle is town.
idk why people think I'm panicking, I'm pushing my own wagon since it's the only one people seem to care about. I'm not trying to get people off of it lol. I don't consider what I'm doing as throwing btw. I'm pulling a D1 FL that my flip will maybe galvanize the game to start moving forward.
Were we hard bussing each other here to the point of making Celeb claim?
I can see Hu Tao/Celeb heavily from this day phase, but I want Bingle back in here for sure.
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In post 1069, Dunnstral wrote:
You mostly respond to suspicion on yourself or pop in to say you're "still fine" with your vote:In post 1064, Hu Tao wrote:
How am I in the background?In post 1056, Dunnstral wrote: People playing in the background this day phase: AnimatedWiz, Hu Tao, RCEnigma, SirCakez, Thomith
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You are not saying anything new, have not commented on Celebloki, or really explored other options.
If Dunn town, Hu tao pushing for Wiz/Dunn and protecting Celeb while still saying they could be scum.In post 1070, Hu Tao wrote: I think I said celebloki could be scum, but right now I'm fine with you or wiz.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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This is a decent case for why I believe pushing Celeb/FL as a team is silly because of how much we were pushing each other. I can see the possibility of scum team 'fake clearing me', and that Celeb was potentially following Hu Tao the leader.In post 1100, Flavor Leaf wrote: If you’re town, Celeb, you’re wrong on a chunk of your town reads.
Your energy is just different this game, and I’ve never had to wonder about your reads before, so that’s why I feel you are scum here.
Even when I was scum against you, I felt everything you were saying made sense, and that you had reasons for everyone.
I’ve never seen you go ‘I’m trusting my read on Kyouko so I’m trusting their reads’
Seems super lazy, and i don’t see you as a lazy player. That being said, i also don’t get why you wouldn’t try to expand more as scum, so when I think deeper into that, it looks like you’re avoiding saying certain things about players to not draw more associatives.
I’m very willing to change wagons and my view on a gamestate on a whim.
But you are trusting blindly in Hu Tao, Wiz, and Thomith, and trusting Kyouko who was already shown to have incorrect reads this game with their Gob push.
I get NKA, and I’ve been looking into that too, but Kyouku was just obv town for that push on Gob, the how they did it.
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In post 1101, SirCakez wrote: It looks like Hu Tao has done basically nothing today I'd be down for that wagonIn post 1105, SirCakez wrote:
I don't know if this makes him town but this post makes a lot of sense to me. I don't think I'd be interested in a Dunn elim today at least.In post 1058, Dunnstral wrote: You are going off the assumption that mafia are scrambling to try to save me and piling onto you. I'm not mafia so likely mafia are instead sitting back doing nothing, if you are town. I find Thomith's current position suspect, they apparently want to vote me out but are voting for you instead. AnimatedWiz's iso is 85% about me and 10% defending themself. I mean look at this:Spoiler:
Hu Tao pops in every so often to say we should eliminate someone but gives no reasoning and then makes a filler post and leaves, and then 24 hours later comes back in and says we should eliminate the same person again with no new reasoning. SirCakez seems to be busy but is angling for you in their latest post - it's a bit of a mystery what they think about me. RCEnigma's last post is saying we need votes for pressure and they're the only player not voting. They have offered some talk of the wagon but not much else, including not giving a clear stance - they just call it 'interesting'.In post 1106, SirCakez wrote:
This kind of stuff reads like flailing scum to me, like Cele doesn't know what to do to get out of the situation and is just flinging out postsIn post 1088, Celebloki wrote: I also got really, REALLY, bored with this game yesterday and decided to start playing more unhinged and try to get reactions out of people. I'm still figuring out how this is working out for me. If you guys do vote me off, I almost suspect the people off my wagon look worse. With the way I've been playing I think scum would want to avoid my wagon rather that get behind it.
I'd join the wagon but don't want to put to E-1 so I'll go here instead
VOTE: hu tao
It is NOT a coincidence that Cakez started taking a lot more heat after sussing Hu Tao.In post 1107, SirCakez wrote: Like I'm looking at Hu's iso rn and they are just so vague about so much. They'll declare reads but give no explanation why and their vote movements seem to be driven more by the way the thread seems to be going then by their own scumhunting
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In post 1124, Roden wrote: Why wouldn't you check Leaf?In post 1130, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Cuz they’re lying scum.In post 1124, Roden wrote: Why wouldn't you check Leaf?In post 1134, Hu Tao wrote:
FalseIn post 1130, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Cuz they’re lying scum.In post 1124, Roden wrote: Why wouldn't you check Leaf?In post 1135, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Scratch that, they’re probs a Scum Neap here lying about their targetIn post 1130, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Cuz they’re lying scum.In post 1124, Roden wrote: Why wouldn't you check Leaf?In post 1136, Flavor Leaf wrote: I’m down to move to Hu Tao, though, if we wanna let Celeb go further.
I think they’re blatantly scum claiming Neap here, but Hu Tao is also scum.
Look at this entire progression here.
I was actively calling out Celeb as lying scum
They targeted me to ease my push on Celeb that night.
I am not this type of harsh to my teammates like this.
Hu Tao went from hard hard defending Celebloki to flipping it like they have to be scum.
scum team are bussing Celeb this game, 90% sure of this.
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In post 1143, Roden wrote: Kyouko is just such a weird target when we had an actual VT claim that no one really disputed should be investigated
RODEN AND I WERE RIGHTIn post 1144, Flavor Leaf wrote: Not true, i soft as town.
But they also claimed that they were town reading Kyouko.
It also doesn’t line up they wanted ‘lower profile’ slots.
Kyouko was one of the leads in pushing Gob and was the only obv town.
This is a scum claim.
RODEN IM SORRY BUDDY PLEASE FORGIVE ME I WILL NEVER DOUBT US SYNCING UP THAT WAY EVER AGAIN IT JUST FELT TOO MUCHCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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In post 1157, Flavor Leaf wrote: It’s Celeb or Hu Tao for me today. Hu Tao’s either TMI’ing Celeb town or is scum. Or they’re both scum. This isn’t town Tao.In post 1160, Hu Tao wrote:
This is you just setting up for when Cele flips townIn post 1157, Flavor Leaf wrote: It’s Celeb or Hu Tao for me today. Hu Tao’s either TMI’ing Celeb town or is scum. Or they’re both scum. This isn’t town Tao.
Just read it.In post 1173, Flavor Leaf wrote: Hu Tao’s also trying to get me to convinceherthat she is scum, whereas if she were town, why would I ever need to do that?
On top of that, it benefits Hu Tao as scum here to defend a town Celeb because Celeb was one of the people here who put Hu Tao at the top.
Hu Tao even said they didn’t think any of the people who put them at the top of their town reads was scummy, or didn’t concern her at all, when the day prior, end of day, by her own admission she was ‘literally doing nothing’ deliberately, and yet she thinks she warrants that strong of town reads and byonlytown?
Then Celeb started getting more heat, and they began to say they could see it, and then the claim stuff happened and Hu Tao flips the other way.
On top of this, was also shouting yesterday for INVESTIGATIVE TO BE ON HU TAO.
Hu Tao’s standing in the game is in a good spot because she had townies defending and pocketing.
And she’s targeting players that disrupt that.
In addition, if I were ever scum here, I have no reason to not play along and then just start killing off the support system, so Hu Tao voting me here is also completely opportunistic of the new energy.
She doesn’t scum read me, she’s trying to prevent the threat to her support system and use the hectic energy to aid the momentum
I'm sold.
The team is Hu Tao/Celeb/Maestro exactly, honestly I'm locking that in, and I'll bet the game on that.
It is safest for the 2 of them to lean Celebloki because they can get bus cred, and then go for me afterwards. If Bingle dies, im conf town, I absolutely never in a million years kill a Bingle who town reads me that hard.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Bingle, you sly dog, you successfully slingshotted me again.
The rest is up to you, my friend. I feel if you town read me, you gotta see I'm probably on the solve, and it's on you to convince Dunnstral.
You town read defending Dunnstral is a big reason I started to see Dunnstral as town.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Check it out. Hu Tao and Celeb are always aligned here, and we had it right Day 2.
In post 1205, Dunnstral wrote: Celebloki is not mafia, they are telling the truth, and no mod error has occured. Explanation coming.In post 1212, Hu Tao wrote: That's enough effort for me not to want to vote you today Dunn.
How would everyone feel about a Naerys vote?
Oh, convenient that when Dunn started defending Celeb that Hu Tao decided to flip their read on Dunnstral.In post 1214, Flavor Leaf wrote: I’m of the mentality that Dunnstral’s defense is solid enough for me to not use that reasoning.
However,
i do think that take the out, and all the other reasons that I’ve been stating look strong.
In addition to that, the fact that this push got minimized to being about that front and center, one that has a damn good reason to stand as a good defense, it makes it feel like there’s a solid defense for Celebloki, and that seems like it was put on the stage, when I even thought the other reasons were better to begin with.
Celebloki felt solid in that post. But when I take out tone reading as well, it leans back to them being scum, which is generally a good sign.
@Roden - the similarities to the Yessiree wagon, down to it being on Day 2 both times, are too similar for me to ignore here.
I also hate the defense of “let the night resolve itself” because i know how much i love hearing that when im scum in danger. A clever scum can work around that and craft a mech puzzle narrative that works in their favor.
And in the scenario I am correct about Hu Tao/Celebloki, I am always fake guiltied tomorrow, at the cost of Celebloki, in a situation where they wiggled out a Flavor take down, not the other way around, and Hu Tao gets to brush it off.
It’s just too similar to Yessiree.
In ADDITION, Dunnstral was the other wagon, and I think Dunnstral was town being wagoned.
Notice how I said Celebloki would guilty me. They specifically went against that so that I wouldn't be right, and it hard connected me with Celeb and got me to flip my read on Celebloki.
Now we're in ELO and people are pairing me up with Celebloki, the exact situation that caused this came from this set of posts.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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okay. im gonna take a risk here.
If you are TOWN, DO NOT VOTE.
VOTE: Hu TaoCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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I’m probably not gonnaIn post 2442, Bingle wrote: Not voting outside of Celebloki, still.
I wanna force scum to bus.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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I am.In post 2444, Bingle wrote: I'd appreciate you unvoting Hu, FL.
I'm not convinced she's scum 100% right now.
And I’m willing to bet the game on itCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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If you aren’t voting outside of Celeb, then I have to solve this game today.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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If Hu Tao isn’t quick hammered, then Celebloki is the only one who isn’t 100% scum for me.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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