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Post Post #222 (isolation #0) » Fri Dec 01, 2023 9:54 pm

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I am here.
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Post Post #223 (isolation #1) » Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:01 pm

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In post 7, Celebloki wrote: VOTE: Random Nurse

Hi

Hello there.
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Post Post #224 (isolation #2) » Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:02 pm

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So, I've been blessed with not Bulletproof status this game, so by all means please NK me tonight.
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Post Post #225 (isolation #3) » Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:05 pm

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In post 25, Elements wrote: Gamma and Black probably town

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Post Post #226 (isolation #4) » Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:07 pm

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In post 34, Elements wrote:
In post 33, davesaz wrote:
In post 29, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 26, Elements wrote: Gamma and Black probably town
Gamma has done what so far?
Why not the same amount of puzzlement at both?
I like this
You can be town too, for now

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...I don't recall you answering Dave's question.
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Post Post #227 (isolation #5) » Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:07 pm

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VOTE: Elements
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Post Post #228 (isolation #6) » Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:14 pm

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In post 105, Naerys wrote:
In post 92, Black wrote: From what I gathered, Miller claims are pretty controversial. Scum could claim this early in order to deter any potential investigative roles from targeting them, so people generally aren't a big fan of these claims
indeed, but if its true, its better to claim it asap
In my opinion, claiming miller this early feels towny. Of course, scum could be bold enough to try to pull this. But i find it unlikely. Most scum i have played against did not like much attention at D1.
Competent Scum would definitely claim Miller if they wanted to. If you're Town keep this in mind.
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Post Post #229 (isolation #7) » Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:18 pm

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Is 4:13 the most likely breakdown with 17 players?
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Post Post #231 (isolation #8) » Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:54 pm

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In post 230, Naerys wrote: Hello Nurse! I am glad you are okay. Good to play with you again.

Nice to see you too. Life has a crazy way of creating mass chaos.
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Post Post #234 (isolation #9) » Fri Dec 01, 2023 11:12 pm

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In post 232, Naerys wrote:
In post 228, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 105, Naerys wrote:
In post 92, Black wrote: From what I gathered, Miller claims are pretty controversial. Scum could claim this early in order to deter any potential investigative roles from targeting them, so people generally aren't a big fan of these claims
indeed, but if its true, its better to claim it asap
In my opinion, claiming miller this early feels towny. Of course, scum could be bold enough to try to pull this. But i find it unlikely. Most scum i have played against did not like much attention at D1.
Competent Scum would definitely claim Miller if they wanted to. If you're Town keep this in mind.
I will. I dont know those players, so i dont know how good they are. My first impression was leaning town on them. But that doesnt mean that i wont cchange my mind, if i feel they are suspicious.
Davesaz, Elements, Hu Tao, and Dunnstral I'm fairly familiar with and can kind of tell if they're Scum.

I'm certain you'll pick up on my alignment soon.

In post 233, Keyleth wrote:
In post 229, Random Nurse wrote: Is 4:13 the most likely breakdown with 17 players?
That would be my guess given you normally do the rule of 4!

I think it'd be wiser to run with this assumption.
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Post Post #242 (isolation #10) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 3:41 am

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In post 240, Elements wrote:
In post 226, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 34, Elements wrote:
In post 33, davesaz wrote:
In post 29, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 26, Elements wrote: Gamma and Black probably town
Gamma has done what so far?
Why not the same amount of puzzlement at both?
I like this
You can be town too, for now

...

...I don't recall you answering Dave's question.
Dave hasn't asked me a question?
Unless this is a joke about me getting Dave and Dunn confused in which case I have now

God damn it.

That was directed at Dunn.
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Post Post #246 (isolation #11) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 4:32 am

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In post 243, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 229, Random Nurse wrote: Is 4:13 the most likely breakdown with 17 players?
These questions get old real fast

Well aren't you a peach. 🍑
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Post Post #328 (isolation #12) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 1:45 pm

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In post 248, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 246, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 243, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 229, Random Nurse wrote: Is 4:13 the most likely breakdown with 17 players?
These questions get old real fast

Well aren't you a peach. 🍑
I know who you are, so the act doesn't fool me.

Saying it's an act presumes you think I'm acting, which insinuates you think I'm Scum acting in a way to look whatever.

At least have your actions be consistent with your words and VOTE ME, then.
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Post Post #334 (isolation #13) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 1:53 pm

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In post 332, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 328, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 248, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 246, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 243, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 229, Random Nurse wrote: Is 4:13 the most likely breakdown with 17 players?
These questions get old real fast

Well aren't you a peach. 🍑
I know who you are, so the act doesn't fool me.

Saying it's an act presumes you think I'm acting, which insinuates you think I'm Scum acting in a way to look whatever.

At least have your actions be consistent with your words and VOTE ME, then.
That literally was not my meaning. I was saying you’re faking newb posting.

Well now that's just insulting.
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Post Post #336 (isolation #14) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 1:55 pm

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In post 331, Guillotina wrote:
In post 328, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 248, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 246, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 243, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 229, Random Nurse wrote: Is 4:13 the most likely breakdown with 17 players?
These questions get old real fast

Well aren't you a peach. 🍑
I know who you are, so the act doesn't fool me.

Saying it's an act presumes you think I'm acting, which insinuates you think I'm Scum acting in a way to look whatever.

At least have your actions be consistent with your words and VOTE ME, then.
Why can't you be town acting in a way to look whatever?

Why would I want to do that?

When I'm Town, I'm unfettered. I have complete freedom to play however I want. I very rarely*act* as Town, and that's always part of a gambit to help Town.
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Post Post #348 (isolation #15) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 2:25 pm

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In post 339, Guillotina wrote:
In post 336, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 331, Guillotina wrote:
In post 328, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 248, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 246, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 243, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 229, Random Nurse wrote: Is 4:13 the most likely breakdown with 17 players?
These questions get old real fast

Well aren't you a peach. 🍑
I know who you are, so the act doesn't fool me.

Saying it's an act presumes you think I'm acting, which insinuates you think I'm Scum acting in a way to look whatever.

At least have your actions be consistent with your words and VOTE ME, then.
Why can't you be town acting in a way to look whatever?

Why would I want to do that?

When I'm Town, I'm unfettered. I have complete freedom to play however I want. I very rarely*act* as Town, and that's always part of a gambit to help Town.
Then I don't get it. You say you rarely act as town when you are town, and yet when you perceive someone is suspecting you of acting not townie, you kinda overreact to them. If you play anti-town as a gambit to reaction test people that means it is indeed an act, so why is it insulting of them to catch you in your act when you know it is an act to test people in hope of helping town?

No no no no no. I didn't say I *act as Town* as Town. As Town I DON'T ACT.

The only "acting" you could say I do as Town is gambiting BP. I would advise you not attempt to alter or misconstrue what I've said.... because I will tear you apart.
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Post Post #350 (isolation #16) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 2:26 pm

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In post 343, Gamma Emerald wrote:
He left the site under unfortunate circumstances iirc
so I think he wishes to maintain distance from those past issues but for me, the constant questions about what ratios of scum in a game make sense just make it harder to not think of that since I always process that I believe his main knew such things which ofc brings me back to thing about his main

What?
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Post Post #352 (isolation #17) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 2:30 pm

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In post 338, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 334, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 332, Gamma Emerald wrote: That literally was not my meaning. I was saying you’re faking newb posting.

Well now that's just insulting.
how??

Why do you think I would "fake newb post," Gamma?

Why can't it be that I'm just asking because I want to make sure we're not doing something stupid like assuming there's only 3?

Whenever I'm in Large games I typically ask about potential Scumteam size just to get that topic out of the way.

I don't "fake newb post" I'm basically a dinosaur here.
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Post Post #354 (isolation #18) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 2:33 pm

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In post 351, Gamma Emerald wrote: I am being vague in the interest of not fully outing who you are
If I’m wrong about that whole idea pls lmk

I've already shared my main times, so I would prefer you be direct and crystal clear so I can eliminate any misconceptions immediately.
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Post Post #356 (isolation #19) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 2:34 pm

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In post 354, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 351, Gamma Emerald wrote: I am being vague in the interest of not fully outing who you are
If I’m wrong about that whole idea pls lmk

I've already shared my main many times, so I would prefer you be direct and crystal clear so I can eliminate any misconceptions immediately.
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Post Post #357 (isolation #20) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 2:34 pm

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In post 355, Gamma Emerald wrote: Are you Wake?

I certainly am.
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Post Post #359 (isolation #21) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 2:39 pm

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In post 353, Gamma Emerald wrote: Okay, so I misconstrued your intent. I apologize for that.

Thank you. In a game of Mafia the mistrual of content is a grievous thing, and one I keep a keen eye out for.
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Post Post #360 (isolation #22) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 2:42 pm

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In post 359, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 353, Gamma Emerald wrote: Okay, so I misconstrued your intent. I apologize for that.

Thank you. In a game of Mafia the mistrual of intent is a grievous thing, and one I keep a keen eye out for.
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Post Post #362 (isolation #23) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 2:43 pm

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In post 358, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 356, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 354, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 351, Gamma Emerald wrote: I am being vague in the interest of not fully outing who you are
If I’m wrong about that whole idea pls lmk
I've already shared my main many times, so I would prefer you be direct and crystal clear so I can eliminate any misconceptions immediately.
I just tried being direct??????

Good. Moreso.
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Post Post #364 (isolation #24) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 2:43 pm

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In post 361, Guillotina wrote:
In post 348, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 339, Guillotina wrote:
In post 336, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 331, Guillotina wrote:
In post 328, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 248, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 246, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 243, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 229, Random Nurse wrote: Is 4:13 the most likely breakdown with 17 players?
These questions get old real fast

Well aren't you a peach. 🍑
I know who you are, so the act doesn't fool me.

Saying it's an act presumes you think I'm acting, which insinuates you think I'm Scum acting in a way to look whatever.

At least have your actions be consistent with your words and VOTE ME, then.
Why can't you be town acting in a way to look whatever?

Why would I want to do that?

When I'm Town, I'm unfettered. I have complete freedom to play however I want. I very rarely*act* as Town, and that's always part of a gambit to help Town.
Then I don't get it. You say you rarely act as town when you are town, and yet when you perceive someone is suspecting you of acting not townie, you kinda overreact to them. If you play anti-town as a gambit to reaction test people that means it is indeed an act, so why is it insulting of them to catch you in your act when you know it is an act to test people in hope of helping town?

No no no no no. I didn't say I *act as Town* as Town. As Town I DON'T ACT.

The only "acting" you could say I do as Town is gambiting BP. I would advise you not attempt to alter or misconstrue what I've said.... because I will tear you apart.
I apologize, it was not intentional, but also I don't give a shit about threats, you are not the only Dinosaur here.
I feel like you are the kind of slot that is overly reactive when engaging with people, and I'm trying to measure if it is scum freaking the hell out or just a townie whom naturally behaves this way.

...

...is this your first time playing with me?
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Post Post #366 (isolation #25) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 2:44 pm

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Because if so, I'll let the others explain it to you.
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Post Post #372 (isolation #26) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 2:51 pm

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In post 367, Guillotina wrote:
In post 364, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 361, Guillotina wrote:
In post 348, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 339, Guillotina wrote:
In post 336, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 331, Guillotina wrote:
In post 328, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 248, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 246, Random Nurse wrote:


Well aren't you a peach. 🍑
I know who you are, so the act doesn't fool me.

Saying it's an act presumes you think I'm acting, which insinuates you think I'm Scum acting in a way to look whatever.

At least have your actions be consistent with your words and VOTE ME, then.
Why can't you be town acting in a way to look whatever?

Why would I want to do that?

When I'm Town, I'm unfettered. I have complete freedom to play however I want. I very rarely*act* as Town, and that's always part of a gambit to help Town.
Then I don't get it. You say you rarely act as town when you are town, and yet when you perceive someone is suspecting you of acting not townie, you kinda overreact to them. If you play anti-town as a gambit to reaction test people that means it is indeed an act, so why is it insulting of them to catch you in your act when you know it is an act to test people in hope of helping town?

No no no no no. I didn't say I *act as Town* as Town. As Town I DON'T ACT.

The only "acting" you could say I do as Town is gambiting BP. I would advise you not attempt to alter or misconstrue what I've said.... because I will tear you apart.
I apologize, it was not intentional, but also I don't give a shit about threats, you are not the only Dinosaur here.
I feel like you are the kind of slot that is overly reactive when engaging with people, and I'm trying to measure if it is scum freaking the hell out or just a townie whom naturally behaves this way.

...

...is this your first time playing with me?
I've never seen you before or at least I don't remember you.

Then if that is the case and if you are indeed Town then there may be wisdom in reserving judgment.

Instead of having other players mention my gameplay like Naerys I'll just say it upfront: as Town I can be VERY aggressive because I don't feel pressured by insider knowledge. I HATE playing as Scum and I flounder badly, because it is so difficult to fake genuine reactions. As Town I can go from 0 to 100 because I can say exactly what's on my mind with ease and I don't care one single solitary f*ck about catching that sweet yeet of elimination.
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Post Post #373 (isolation #27) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 2:52 pm

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In post 370, TimmerRC wrote:
I'm struggling to follow the convo about someone's "main" but if it has to do with a previous account or something, is it relevant to the game itself? If yes, please explain how, and if not, I'll ignore it.

I was kind of wondering that meself.
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Post Post #421 (isolation #28) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 6:55 pm

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In post 417, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 222, Random Nurse wrote: I am here.
I've missed playing with ya. Glad you're here.

Aw. The cockles of my black heart are warmed.
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Post Post #422 (isolation #29) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 6:55 pm

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Anyone here known of any of the other players her that have legitimate meta/alignment tells?
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Post Post #437 (isolation #30) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:04 pm

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In post 429, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 422, Random Nurse wrote: Anyone here known of any of the other players her that have legitimate meta/alignment tells?
Not really. You?

Dave and Dunn I think I can tell now which they are, but I need to see more content/behavioral patterns.
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Post Post #451 (isolation #31) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:38 pm

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In post 438, Celebloki wrote: UNVOTE:


At this point I can say I heavily town read RN, at least until I develop a different meta for him.

...

...did we play in a previous game?
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Post Post #452 (isolation #32) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:40 pm

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Oh and Dunn, I am still awaiting your reply.

If not I will make this a memorable game for us.
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Post Post #455 (isolation #33) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:17 pm

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In post 453, Celebloki wrote: Kinda, Large 245 is probably the only one I can technically say we did.

...were you Scum in that one?
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Post Post #596 (isolation #34) » Sun Dec 03, 2023 4:37 pm

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VOTE: unvote
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Post Post #597 (isolation #35) » Sun Dec 03, 2023 4:40 pm

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In post 504, Naerys wrote:
In post 359, Random Nurse wrote: Thank you. In a game of Mafia the mistrual of content is a grievous thing, and one I keep a keen eye out for.
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Post Post #600 (isolation #36) » Sun Dec 03, 2023 4:51 pm

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In post 583, Guillotina wrote:
In post 582, Gamma Emerald wrote: Why not re-vote Celeb?
Cause I want pressure on Naerys

Why?
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Post Post #604 (isolation #37) » Sun Dec 03, 2023 5:11 pm

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Alright, I'm gonna grab my nifty little player-organizing table.

I don't want to HEAR NO SHIT when I post it because I'm just getting started and haven't had time to fill it in yet.

Don't say ANYTHING about it just wait for me to settle in.
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Post Post #606 (isolation #38) » Sun Dec 03, 2023 5:41 pm

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Town-lean
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Null
Gamma Emerald, Celebloki, Naerys, davesaz, Hu Tao, Broccoli Quest 2, Guillotina, Cat Scratch Fever, Keyleth, Dunnstral, KawaiiKame, ssbm_Kyouko, TimmerRC, Elements, Andresvmb, Black
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Gamma Emerald
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Naerys
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Hu Tao
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Broccoli Quest 2
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Guillotina
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Alive
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Cat Scratch Fever
she/her
Alive
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Keyleth
she/her
Alive
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Dunnstral
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Alive
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KawaiiKame
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Post Post #607 (isolation #39) » Sun Dec 03, 2023 5:42 pm

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Davesaz, Guillotina, KawaiiKame: Could you please share your pronouns so I can update them in my table? Also, if it's not asking too much, could you please update your pronouns in your profiles so that I do not have to ask you in future games? Thank you.
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Post Post #661 (isolation #40) » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:24 pm

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Anyone here have useful information on the Scum version of Gamma Emerald?

As is I slightly Townread the slot based on gutvibes.
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Post Post #895 (isolation #41) » Tue Dec 05, 2023 3:31 am

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How many VTs/Goons do you reckon there are in this new "Complex" setup?

I'm preparing for an interview now and then going to bed, so I won't really be active until maybe 9 PM today.
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Post Post #897 (isolation #42) » Tue Dec 05, 2023 3:32 am

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In post 894, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 883, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
I'll be fully honest, I think is smack in Hu Tao's scum meta, BUT I want to hear first what she has to say on why it's sus.
This is why meta is so silly. :lol: I've heard EVERYTHING is my scum meta.

Using meta is only really effective depending on the player being read. Some players DO have major tells based on alignment, but not all, and some are better at covering them than others.
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Post Post #1449 (isolation #43) » Wed Dec 06, 2023 6:54 pm

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I find myself once again having a tough time trying to put energy towards this game thanks to work and exhaustion.

As much as I want to use that beautiful table I posted earlier it takes so much god damn energy to use it and update it, so I'll need to play the way I usually do: rip and tear until the job is done.
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Post Post #1450 (isolation #44) » Wed Dec 06, 2023 6:56 pm

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What are the main reasons for Keyleth and Kyouko being run up?
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Post Post #1822 (isolation #45) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 12:35 pm

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In post 1739, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
In post 1731, Celebloki wrote: I’m certainly not going to listen to Hu Tao. I suppose she could have lied to cover any other PR and avoid getting limmed, but I think it’s more likely she’s a goon.
I am telling you she's a VT who fake claimed doc. I wasn't buying her claim for a second.

If Hu Tao flips Scum I want this slot examined next.
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Post Post #1843 (isolation #46) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:48 pm

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In post 1839, TimmerRC wrote:
So Hu lied about their claim
but it's cool because they are obv-town, Dunn can't understand Black's role and how it resulted in Gamma's death, Celeb soft-suggested a protective role and apparently crumbed some clues but now says they are an investigator and yet we are believing them as well even though they will explain itall tomorrow, does that sum things up?

Was there a hard-claim on this?

If so I DO want this slot resolved NOW.
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Post Post #1850 (isolation #47) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 7:44 pm

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In post 1845, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1843, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 1839, TimmerRC wrote:
So Hu lied about their claim
but it's cool because they are obv-town, Dunn can't understand Black's role and how it resulted in Gamma's death, Celeb soft-suggested a protective role and apparently crumbed some clues but now says they are an investigator and yet we are believing them as well even though they will explain itall tomorrow, does that sum things up?

Was there a hard-claim on this?

If so I DO want this slot resolved NOW.
Weren't you talking about Hu Tao claiming doctor earlier? Why are you asking this now?

I don't think that was me, Dunn. If so please quote it.
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Post Post #1851 (isolation #48) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 7:46 pm

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In post 1844, Naerys wrote:
In post 1843, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 1839, TimmerRC wrote:
So Hu lied about their claim
but it's cool because they are obv-town, Dunn can't understand Black's role and how it resulted in Gamma's death, Celeb soft-suggested a protective role and apparently crumbed some clues but now says they are an investigator and yet we are believing them as well even though they will explain itall tomorrow, does that sum things up?

Was there a hard-claim on this?

If so I DO want this slot resolved NOW.
At the beginning Hu claimed vanilla, later after being pushed claimed doctor, its somewhere in her iso. I would find it, but i need to go to work

If this is the case then I'd like to see this slot flip Day 2.

VOTE: Hu Tao
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Post Post #1857 (isolation #49) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 5:22 am

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In post 1856, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
Also Nurse, HT is obvtown. Please unvote and consider voting Elements, or someone in the PoE like Roden or Andres something.

If my vote is important to you then convince me why I should unvote.

Why are you pushing me to vote someone else?

What EXACTLY make Hu Tao so obvTown to you?
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Post Post #1858 (isolation #50) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 5:27 am

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I don't buy someone claiming Vanilla, then doctor after being pushed, and then someone else claims to have a result that Hu Tao is Vanilla.

Too much murkiness to allow that slot to go unresolved Day 2.
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Post Post #1860 (isolation #51) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 5:54 am

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Where exactly did Celebloki soft a protective role?

Either way I want these sorted out, NOW. If the first flips Town then the other must be taken out next.
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Post Post #1862 (isolation #52) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 6:01 am

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I DO NOT see that as a soft.
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Post Post #1863 (isolation #53) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 6:03 am

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Naerys, understand that if Hu Tao flips Scum I will also be suspecting you because it could be seen as you trying to shift my focus away from HT and onto Celebloki.

If you're Town, understand this possibility. If you're Scum understand that I will eventually catch you.
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Post Post #1865 (isolation #54) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 6:06 am

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In post 1864, Naerys wrote: Hu Tao and Broccoli do.
Damn. This is a mess :facepalm:

And that is unfortunate for them.

If they are Scum they had better be extremely careful because I see far more than I speak.
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Post Post #1867 (isolation #55) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 6:09 am

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In post 1866, Naerys wrote:
In post 1863, Random Nurse wrote: Naerys, understand that if Hu Tao flips Scum I will also be suspecting you because it could be seen as you trying to shift my focus away from HT and onto Celebloki.

If you're Town, understand this possibility. If you're Scum understand that I will eventually catch you.
I am not trying to shift anything. I just dont know whom to trust.

Regardless, I am saying what it looks like, and what it MAY look like if HT flips Scum in the future.

Saying "I just don't know whom to trust" is worth nothing and certainly will not keep me at bay if used repeatedly.
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Post Post #1868 (isolation #56) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 6:10 am

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Tell me what you think of me Hu Tao, and Celebloki at the present moment.
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Post Post #1871 (isolation #57) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 6:16 am

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In post 1869, TimmerRC wrote:
In post 1853, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
In post 1840, TimmerRC wrote: This businessof bolding letters, capitaling things etc, is that commonly done on this site? How often does that actually pay off in some tangible way?
Quite often? Maybe in 30-50% of games, I'd say.
Sorry to harp on this, but 30 to 50% of the time it benefits town? I just don't see how these little clues help since long time players on both sides presumably catch them equally easily?

Are you new here?
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Post Post #1874 (isolation #58) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 6:20 am

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In post 1873, TimmerRC wrote:
In post 1871, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 1869, TimmerRC wrote:
In post 1853, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
In post 1840, TimmerRC wrote: This businessof bolding letters, capitaling things etc, is that commonly done on this site? How often does that actually pay off in some tangible way?
Quite often? Maybe in 30-50% of games, I'd say.
Sorry to harp on this, but 30 to 50% of the time it benefits town? I just don't see how these little clues help since long time players on both sides presumably catch them equally easily?

Are you new here?
Yes, lol.

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OK.

People have different personalities here and some of them, including me, use fonts and colors and bolds/italics/etc for emphasis. Doesn't matter if it "benefits" Town or not—it's a personality thing.
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Post Post #1876 (isolation #59) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 6:23 am

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In post 1875, Celebloki wrote:
I refuse to explain further
because I don't want to potentially out any other PRs. I'll maybe explain on a later day if it makes sense to. Btw, I never said I would explain tomorrow, Broccoli implied I could explain tomorrow, but I didn't agree to that.

I don't recommend that.
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Post Post #1879 (isolation #60) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 6:30 am

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In post 1877, Celebloki wrote: Yeah and the second I explain what I was doing I'll get flamed for revealing a potential town PR. It's better that I have the heat right now.

The only thing further I'll say is that I am not a protective, but I believe there is one. This is why I didn't believe Hu Tao so strongly yesterday and why I decided to look into it over night. I was asking about the possibility of two because I became concerned that I was misguided in thinking that there couldn't be two.

Most likely everyone is some form of complicated and unwieldy PR.

We could just run you up to the point where I declare hammer and I'll have you talk anyways, so why not just save time and speak out now?

It wouldn't surprise me if there were one or more other protective roles in this game. Oops, did I soft?

Also I didn't get all the details on what happened. Did you use a PR on Hu Tao and get a result of "Vanilla," Cele?
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Post Post #1880 (isolation #61) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 6:33 am

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In post 1878, Naerys wrote: Hu Tao vs Celebloki could contain a scum.
Hu Tao looks much worse, that slot is untrustworthy. Starting with her is less risky than limming potential useful town PR but also her flip gets plenty of useful info.
I wanted to go this way but allowed Broccoli and Hu to make me hesitate. :roll:
Out of the 3 i feel like Hu has the best chance of rolling scum.

VOTE: Hu Tao

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Know this:

If you are Scum, every move you make is being scrutinized with laser-like intensity. I'm just waiting.
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Post Post #1882 (isolation #62) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 6:41 am

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OK, if it exists have a player protect Cele tonight.

If it exists have another player check their alignment.

That aside, let's sort the Hu Tao slot and, if it turns up Scum we'll look at who gets the fallout.
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Post Post #1883 (isolation #63) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 6:42 am

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If Hu Tao flips NOT-Vanilla, then set Cele on fire.
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Post Post #2072 (isolation #64) » Tue Dec 12, 2023 10:42 pm

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In post 2068, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
In post 2067, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2063, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
In post 2048, Guillotina wrote:
In post 1964, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote: This sounds like town!Naerys to me.
Care to give me Naerys' full meta? Are they the kind of player that I should have low expectations from?
I am not really sure what "full meta" means, but Naerys tends to semi-lurk, semi-scum hunt, and be overdefensive as town. Which is what she's been doing here.
Additionally her tone sounds similar to her town games but I actually think there's a reasonable chance she could fake that tone as scum so that's probably NAI.
In post 2049, Guillotina wrote:
In post 1964, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote: I know who the real doctor is. I thought it was pretty obvious? Check my ISO.
If the doctor is anyone else other than Hu Tao, why are you defending Hu Tao?
I'm not interested in getting the doctor outted, but how did you come by this info considering Celeb is the role cop?
I'd rather not say how I know the doctor's identity.
I've been defending Hu Tao because she retracted the Doc claim (which I thought was scummy), because I believed her VT claim is real (which it probably is), because all of her posting toDay gutpinged me town a lot, and because Gamma, flipped scum, was pretty focused on limming Hu Tao yesterday (in a way that doesn't feel like bussing to me).
Hu Tao retracted the Doc claim because they were investigated as Vanilla...
So what
What do you mean "so what?," Broccoli?

She recanted the VT claim after a PR investigative claimed she was Vanilla.

This is the optimal lim for tday, otherwise it will drag down the game until it is resolved.
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Post Post #2074 (isolation #65) » Tue Dec 12, 2023 10:56 pm

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In post 2073, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
Nuh uh

If you REALLY want to, we can maybe lim her tomorrow (but I'd rather she just gets investigated, because I'm sure we don't have only a singe investigation role this game).

In any case, she's not today's lim. Today we should lim scum.

She already was investigated.

She is today's lim.
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Post Post #2078 (isolation #66) » Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:55 pm

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In post 2075, Roden wrote: I've been slogging through pages the past few days, I feel like I have a decent understanding of the game state at this point. I don't think it really matters if anyone town reads Hu Tao, she still faked a Doc claim and has a history of faking CC-able roles. The fact that she didn't die last night and Black did despite not claiming anything should've already been damning. The guilty from a Rolecop claim just seals it.

I also don't think her interactions with Gamma make her town, it's the opposite tbh. Nearly every game I've been in this past year has had scum hardcore cross bussing themselves even when they gain nothing from it, site meta just seems to be shifting towards that for whatever reason. I don't think it's unreasonable at all for two scum buddies to try to vote each other out in that context, especially since neither actually succeeded in doing that.

So HT had claimed Doctor and didn't die Night 1. That too convinces me the slot needs to be flipped.
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Post Post #2471 (isolation #67) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:26 pm

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So, Celebloki did not lie about his claim on Hu Tao.

Let's flip Hu Tao.
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Post Post #2472 (isolation #68) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:35 pm

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In post 2346, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2326, Naerys wrote:
In post 2322, Guillotina wrote:
In post 2299, Dunnstral wrote: Guillotina, did you protect Celebloki?
No, it was impossible for me to protect Cele again.

Also. Full claim 2-shot Indecisive Doctor, i protected Celebloki on night 1 and Broc last night.

I also received a mod message that someone is town aligned, i will not disclose this info until they decide to claim.
Glad you got the message.
I claim 1-shot Friendly Neighbor.
I got a friendly neighbor message from a different player this night.

This part is interesting.

(Still reading through.)
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Post Post #2473 (isolation #69) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:38 pm

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Up to page 95.

My PR is weird, so deciding if I should claim or not.
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Post Post #2474 (isolation #70) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:41 pm

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I'm a "Macho Combined Bodyguard Disloyal Vigilante."
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Post Post #2479 (isolation #71) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:19 pm

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In post 2476, Enchant wrote: So you die if you protect mafia member? Meh.


Targets?

Haven't used it yet because I didn't understand it.

If I target Town do I and then due? It if I target Scum?

I can't be protected so do I figured I'd claim it and then Town can discuss how to best use it.
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Post Post #2480 (isolation #72) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:21 pm

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In post 2479, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 2476, Enchant wrote: So you die if you protect mafia member? Meh.


Targets?

Haven't used it yet because I didn't understand it.

If I target Town do I and them die? If I target Scum do both of us die?

I can't be protected so do I figured I'd claim it and then Town can discuss how to best use it.
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Post Post #2482 (isolation #73) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:42 pm

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In post 2481, Enchant wrote:
In post 2479, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 2476, Enchant wrote: So you die if you protect mafia member? Meh.


Targets?

Haven't used it yet because I didn't understand it.
Asking mod be like:
no

No offense to Bingle but he didn't explain it that well either.
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Post Post #2497 (isolation #74) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:53 pm

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I'll be targeting Hu Tao.
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Post Post #2521 (isolation #75) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:52 pm

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In post 2500, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
In post 2471, Random Nurse wrote: So, Celebloki did not lie about his claim on Hu Tao.

Let's flip Hu Tao.
Let's not. Didn't you see how not limming Hu Tao yesterday resulted in a scum death?

So in your mind that *MUST* mean Hu Tao can't possibly be Scum?

If HT does flip Scum before you, well, I will be zeroing in on you next.
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Post Post #2523 (isolation #76) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:12 pm

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So regarding my role the general consensus is just "you target whoever you suspect the most"?

The reason I brought it up is because I wanted to see what the rest of Town thought and also share who should be targeted. Maybe their collective insight could lead to a better target.
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Post Post #2524 (isolation #77) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:13 pm

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In post 2522, Enchant wrote: I looked on claims:
2 Innocents from Miller claims with Town Role Cop in game. And Broccoli scared everyone off from checking Millers (which would result in confirmation of being town and mafia being boxed).
2 Innocents from Friendly Neighboors. These most belivable if targets alive. I don't care to look who targets are.
Possible Innocents from "Bodyguard abomination". But let's be honest, using it to get guilties is unlikely option from this point on.

I believe bodyguard and both FN claims. I don't believe Millers.


Vote VOTE: Broccoli for now. For someone who tries to solve mech, they are surprisingly vindicative.

*vindictive.
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Post Post #2531 (isolation #78) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:26 pm

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In post 2525, Enchant wrote:
In post 2523, Random Nurse wrote: So regarding my role the general consensus is just "you target whoever you suspect the most"?
Do you even have your own opinion?

If you don't mind your manners you'll hear a new one soon.
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Post Post #2534 (isolation #79) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:29 pm

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In post 2527, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
In post 2521, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 2500, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
In post 2471, Random Nurse wrote: So, Celebloki did not lie about his claim on Hu Tao.

Let's flip Hu Tao.
Let's not. Didn't you see how not limming Hu Tao yesterday resulted in a scum death?

So in your mind that *MUST* mean Hu Tao can't possibly be Scum?

If HT does flip Scum before you, well, I will be zeroing in on you next.
Hopefully this answers your question:
In post 2375, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
In post 2370, Guillotina wrote:
In post 2367, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
In post 2364, Guillotina wrote:
In post 2363, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
In post 2356, Guillotina wrote: Hu Tao (E-7): Scummy
Elements (E-7): Spewed town from both Gamma and Rode
Dunnstral (E-7): Towny
Broccoli Quest 2 (E-7): Spewed town from both Gamma and Rode
Enchant (E-7): Null
ssbm_Kyouko (E-7): Spewed town from Gamma
TimmerRC (E-7): Cant remember
Andresvmb (E-7): Towny
Naerys (E-7): Confirmed Town
davesaz (E-7): Cant remember
Guillotina (E-7): Town
Random Nurse (E-7): Spewed town from Gamma
Do you think the way Roden pushed Hu Tao was just scum bussing?
No, i just cant let go of the fact they tried to make me CC on day 1. I will never forget it.
I understand that but they did exactly that in a past town game.
I dont care. Maybe you guys let people get away with that instead of policying the slot so they stop, but i dont. If Hu is town and we reach lylo we already lost this game because i cant forget that.
I actually think we always lim Hu Tao the day before ELo unless we have a guilty on someone else or something
Also do you really think as scum I would hard defend my scum buddy only to push my other scum buddy? How does that make sense?

I've played this game long enough to know that nothing is impossible when it comes to Scum machinations. Do realize Scum want to manipulate you.
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Post Post #2541 (isolation #80) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:39 pm

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In post 2536, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
Anyway Nurse,
no I am not clearing Hu Tao
and also not Elements. I just think they are ess likely to be scum than Enchant/Timmer, both play wise and interactions wise.

I won't be very surprised if one of them is scum, though.

I am clearing you, Guillo, and Naerys both mechanically and by play.

I also think davesaz, Dunn and Kyoko are pretty town right now so don't want to touch them.

To be frank you certainly do sound like it and should HT flip Scum I'll be so far up your ass I'll be nipping your uvula.

For now, the random nurse abides.
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Post Post #2655 (isolation #81) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 1:21 pm

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I think I have to lock-in and declare exactly who I'm targeting tonight otherwise Scum will take advantage of the lack of clarity. For now I will be targeting Hu Tao: if HT is Scum I'll die, if Town we both live (?).
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Post Post #2698 (isolation #82) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:09 pm

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In post 2666, Enchant wrote: Hu Tao doesn't want to be checked. Okay.

VOTE: Hu Tao

I'm getting this sense as well.
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Post Post #2704 (isolation #83) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:36 pm

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In post 2699, Naerys wrote: I can see a universe of enchant+ nurse scum tbh

Ooh, that's a unique turn.

Please, do go on.
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Post Post #2707 (isolation #84) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:46 pm

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In post 2705, Naerys wrote: I dont like their interactions, but i might be having my Naerysing moment

You are having one of those moments.
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Post Post #2710 (isolation #85) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:47 pm

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In post 2709, Naerys wrote: Kek i screwed quote

Not just the quote.
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Post Post #2712 (isolation #86) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:57 pm

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In post 2711, Naerys wrote:
In post 2710, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 2709, Naerys wrote: Kek i screwed quote

Not just the quote.
If you think scum would try to yeet you instead of silently shooting in the night… i dont share that logic, plus its vain discussion since i am town

Could you re-write that because whatever you tried to convey there glitched and drove off a cliffside.
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Post Post #2715 (isolation #87) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:33 am

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In post 2713, Naerys wrote: :roll:
Discussing that is pointless since i am town.
But scum!me would just shoot you in the night instead of trying to yeet you

Pfft. I don't know if you're Town.

You wouldn't be able to yeet me regardless.
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Post Post #2717 (isolation #88) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 1:35 am

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In post 2716, Naerys wrote:
In post 2715, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 2713, Naerys wrote: :roll:
Discussing that is pointless since i am town.
But scum!me would just shoot you in the night instead of trying to yeet you

Pfft. I don't know if you're Town.

You wouldn't be able to yeet me regardless.
I dont know if ur claim is true either ;)

No sh*t.

Neither of us are confirmed Town so it's best to not act as if it's so.
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Post Post #2720 (isolation #89) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 4:31 am

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In post 2718, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 2698, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 2666, Enchant wrote: Hu Tao doesn't want to be checked. Okay.

VOTE: Hu Tao

I'm getting this sense as well.
Your tunnel is possibly going to make us lose. As long as you're okay with that, then do whatever you want

Don't be a diva Hu Hu.
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Post Post #2722 (isolation #90) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 7:38 am

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In post 2721, davesaz wrote: Im thinking scum pr in the vt claims.

Insightful commentary, Dave.

Anything else?
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Post Post #2737 (isolation #91) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 2:33 pm

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In post 2733, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: I also don't see Timmer coming in to stop this from happening, I think we just need to give dave and RN time to post anything they have on their minds in case
something happens
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Was it just a typo capitalizing that "N" in tonight?
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Post Post #2738 (isolation #92) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 2:35 pm

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In post 2736, TimmerRC wrote: And just as an apology, it's my own fault, I picked a stupid time to try to play, I'm prepping Christmas for the fam, I'm in the process of setting up a Mycology lab for my region, and honestly the output on this site is just too much for me even without that, so I'll likely not sign up for another. Thanks again!

You can always use "V/LA" for the periods life obligations get heavy.
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Post Post #2740 (isolation #93) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 3:43 pm

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Bingle you may want to recheck the vote on Timmer.
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Post Post #2824 (isolation #94) » Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:31 pm

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So if I target Hu Tao and she is Scum, but Mafia target me for the NK, would there still be only one NK and the risk of Hu Tao looking cleared?
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Post Post #2829 (isolation #95) » Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:59 pm

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In post 2826, Hu Tao wrote: Random why do you even think I'm scum? Cause I claimed doctor?

As you should know by now over the many games we've played together I am a gut player and play based on instinct.
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Post Post #2831 (isolation #96) » Thu Dec 21, 2023 3:09 pm

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Oh, well, I guess I'm convinced.
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Post Post #2841 (isolation #97) » Thu Dec 21, 2023 8:09 pm

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If I were to claim that I have 2-3 targets (Hu Tao being one of them) would that make things more difficult for Scum or nah?

I imagine Scum will target me for the NK no matter what I decide. At this point I don't really know who's who but gut keeps screaming to target Hu. If I understand the role clearly if I target Hu and don't die then I basically clear Hu as Town?
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Post Post #2842 (isolation #98) » Thu Dec 21, 2023 8:10 pm

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I do kind of feel a bit paranoid of Dunn...

...however Dunn is a lurker by nature, so it's very difficult to get a read on that slot.
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Post Post #2876 (isolation #99) » Sun Dec 24, 2023 2:33 am

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In post 2857, Hu Tao wrote: Nurse and Broccoli can you hammer elements so we can end day

Why is Elements even being voted in the first place?
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Post Post #2877 (isolation #100) » Sun Dec 24, 2023 2:35 am

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In post 2859, davesaz wrote:
In post 2857, Hu Tao wrote: Nurse and Broccoli can you hammer elements so we can end day
Does it matter to you who it is?

A good question.

I refuse to be anyone's puppet.

*glares at Naerys*
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Post Post #2879 (isolation #101) » Sun Dec 24, 2023 3:12 am

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In post 2878, Elements wrote:
In post 2876, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 2857, Hu Tao wrote: Nurse and Broccoli can you hammer elements so we can end day

Why is Elements even being voted in the first place?
Because I'm "very likely scum"

Based on?
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Post Post #2883 (isolation #102) » Sun Dec 24, 2023 3:44 am

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"What," she says.

Why'd you vote Elements?
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Post Post #2891 (isolation #103) » Sun Dec 24, 2023 5:33 am

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In post 2890, davesaz wrote: You're leaving out a VT claim, though it's understandable that you would.

Is this in reference to Broccoli?
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Post Post #2893 (isolation #104) » Sun Dec 24, 2023 7:16 am

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In post 2892, davesaz wrote:
In post 2891, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 2890, davesaz wrote: You're leaving out a VT claim, though it's understandable that you would.

Is this in reference to Broccoli?
In reply to and in reference to.

Are you open to eliminating Broccoli today?
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Post Post #2899 (isolation #105) » Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:45 pm

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We've got 8 days, people.

Why the rush?

Let's unvote for now.
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Post Post #2900 (isolation #106) » Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:46 pm

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Do we have any other workable information to use for Today?
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Post Post #2907 (isolation #107) » Tue Dec 26, 2023 2:40 am

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I'll be targeting Hu Tao.

Town, if I die and there's only one NK understand it's still possible she's Scum because I was the NK target. If there's 2 NKs and Hu Tao is alive then she's likely Town.
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Post Post #2909 (isolation #108) » Tue Dec 26, 2023 4:56 am

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OK so I might target Naerys instead.
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Post Post #2973 (isolation #109) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 9:04 pm

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In post 2962, Guillotina wrote:
In post 2959, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2951, Guillotina wrote: RN if you are not gonna target Dave, target one of the miller claims please.
I think trying to change the plan at the last second causes confusion and is scummy.
Yah? RN said he was gonna target Naerys and I said it is useless as she confirmed herself to me, I actually suggested he stayed on course by targeting Dave and if he was not gonna do it then to target the millers aka you or Kyouko. So?

I said I MIGHT, not that I WAS.

I did mention possibly targeting Naerys to instill some doubt into Scum.

I did target Hu Tao.

I'm not 100% convinced because there could have been interference by a Scum PR.
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Post Post #2974 (isolation #110) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 9:07 pm

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In post 2971, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
In post 2968, Hu Tao wrote: I still think Timmer is town here.
You and Elements being town confirms one of TImmer/Enchant as being scum

And I don't think it's Enchant

Explain this please.
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Post Post #2977 (isolation #111) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 9:18 pm

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In post 2976, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 2973, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 2962, Guillotina wrote:
In post 2959, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2951, Guillotina wrote: RN if you are not gonna target Dave, target one of the miller claims please.
I think trying to change the plan at the last second causes confusion and is scummy.
Yah? RN said he was gonna target Naerys and I said it is useless as she confirmed herself to me, I actually suggested he stayed on course by targeting Dave and if he was not gonna do it then to target the millers aka you or Kyouko. So?

I said I MIGHT, not that I WAS.

I did mention possibly targeting Naerys to instill some doubt into Scum.

I did target Hu Tao.

I'm not 100% convinced because there could have been interference by a Scum PR.
The scum role blocker is dead. What more do you want.

I've played this game long enough to know doubt is a good thing.
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Post Post #2989 (isolation #112) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 4:00 am

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Was it already revealed that Andres was a FN? If so I can completely understand Scum targeting that slot. If not I would be curious to know how they knew. And apparently there's a second FN too and that should remain a secret.

In that case with the known FN out of the way I'm fairly confident I'll be targeted next due to the PR.
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Post Post #2998 (isolation #113) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:51 am

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I received no message.
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Post Post #3002 (isolation #114) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:46 am

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What's really starting to piss me off is that I can't really gut a gut sense on who the remaining Scum are. Usually I can get a very slight scent that makes me pick at it, but it's a b*tch trying to get a lead. Gut tells me there was Scum PR interference but that's it.
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Post Post #3004 (isolation #115) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 9:22 am

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Eventually they'll slip up, get too scared, post too little or too much, or some other thing. Perhaps I should start probing and getting more active. I've had a LOT of shit go down in real life that's made it hell trying to stay active: the horrors persist, but so do I.

Maybe I should start looking at who's refraining from engaging, and start ripping shit up.
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Post Post #3005 (isolation #116) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 9:25 am

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Anyways, we should cast votes on who I target next (although I suspect the other FN will be killed before me).

Then again, maybe if I target Scum I'll draw the NK and allow the other FN to survive longer.

I'd like to see the remaining Town vote using hurt tags. I wanna see who wants who to be targeted by yours truly.
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Post Post #3012 (isolation #117) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:38 pm

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So if no one received the message... or no one speaks up about receiving the message... what exactly does this mean?
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Post Post #3013 (isolation #118) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:39 pm

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Paranoia is making me think it's Dunnstral.

Someone reel me back in.
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Post Post #3014 (isolation #119) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:41 pm

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Dave I'm starting to gutread as Town.

He's been much more active this game than in a prior game I played in where he was Scum.

If anyone agrees or disagrees on this please share.
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Post Post #3021 (isolation #120) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:51 am

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In post 3015, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 3010, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2981, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
In post 2978, Dunnstral wrote: I do think mafia could have a backup alien. Maybe neither of the power roles threaten mafia because they can roleblock Random Nurse and a mafia goon did not lie about being a PR for Davesaz' role.
Do you scumread Hu Tao though?
I will always suspect the role claim shenanigans they pulled this game
I'm pretty much confirmed town. Please stop with this, it adds nothing. What do you think of the other slots? Anyone you see as a pair?

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Post Post #3024 (isolation #121) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:16 am

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Flail more.
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Post Post #3031 (isolation #122) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:25 am

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In post 3027, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 3025, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
In post 3021, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 3015, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 3010, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2981, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
In post 2978, Dunnstral wrote: I do think mafia could have a backup alien. Maybe neither of the power roles threaten mafia because they can roleblock Random Nurse and a mafia goon did not lie about being a PR for Davesaz' role.
Do you scumread Hu Tao though?
I will always suspect the role claim shenanigans they pulled this game
I'm pretty much confirmed town. Please stop with this, it adds nothing. What do you think of the other slots? Anyone you see as a pair?

Gut does not like this response.
Too bad for you, Hu Tao is my Savior target for today so we're not voting her.

In post 3023, Hu Tao wrote: Maybe RN is scum. Because that makes 0 sense.
Nope. You should stop scumreading anyone who scumreads you.
It's not that. It just doesn't make sense for town to think that way.

Bullshit.

How do you know a Scum PR didn't target me last Night?
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Post Post #3040 (isolation #123) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:41 am

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In post 3039, Guillotina wrote:
In post 2973, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 2962, Guillotina wrote:
In post 2959, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2951, Guillotina wrote: RN if you are not gonna target Dave, target one of the miller claims please.
I think trying to change the plan at the last second causes confusion and is scummy.
Yah? RN said he was gonna target Naerys and I said it is useless as she confirmed herself to me, I actually suggested he stayed on course by targeting Dave and if he was not gonna do it then to target the millers aka you or Kyouko. So?

I said I MIGHT, not that I WAS.

I did mention possibly targeting Naerys to instill some doubt into Scum.

I did target Hu Tao.

I'm not 100% convinced because there could have been interference by a Scum PR.
Ok then. So as long as we don't see a scum flip that reveals a role that could potentially influence your result, we must treat it as a clear.

VOTE: Guillotina
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Post Post #3052 (isolation #124) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:31 am

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In post 3042, Guillotina wrote:
In post 3004, Random Nurse wrote: Eventually they'll slip up, get too scared, post too little or too much, or some other thing. Perhaps I should start probing and getting more active. I've had a LOT of shit go down in real life that's made it hell trying to stay active: the horrors persist, but so do I.

Maybe I should start looking at who's refraining from engaging, and start ripping shit up.
I have been inactive because work during the holidays in my opportunity to make money over any other season, I don't know who else is in the same position but I will always prioritize real life and my income over a hobby, so I think it is best to not angleshoot activity during holidays cause that is a recipe for losing a game.

Huh?

Heh, I must say this is a rather interesting (defensive) response.

I'm not talking about the holidays. I'm talking about in general eventually Scum will slip up, etc, regardless of holidays.

If you want to continue then by all means proceed to lower your foot into the woodchipper.
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Post Post #3053 (isolation #125) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:32 am

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I think I'll target Guillotina tonight if I can't have their head today.
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Post Post #3055 (isolation #126) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:39 am

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In post 3026, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
The lim today is Trimmer, thank you.

Why exactly are you so stuck on Timmer again?
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Post Post #3056 (isolation #127) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:39 am

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In post 3054, Guillotina wrote:
In post 3052, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 3042, Guillotina wrote:
In post 3004, Random Nurse wrote: Eventually they'll slip up, get too scared, post too little or too much, or some other thing. Perhaps I should start probing and getting more active. I've had a LOT of shit go down in real life that's made it hell trying to stay active: the horrors persist, but so do I.

Maybe I should start looking at who's refraining from engaging, and start ripping shit up.
I have been inactive because work during the holidays in my opportunity to make money over any other season, I don't know who else is in the same position but I will always prioritize real life and my income over a hobby, so I think it is best to not angleshoot activity during holidays cause that is a recipe for losing a game.

Huh?

Heh, I must say this is a rather interesting (defensive) response.

I'm not talking about the holidays. I'm talking about in general eventually Scum will slip up, etc, regardless of holidays.

If you want to continue then by all means proceed to lower your foot into the woodchipper.
I'm not gonna engage in your headless conversation here, I could already see where were you heading for, going after the people that were not posting, let's not play dumb here, so I said my piece on the matter cause that line of thought in unhealthy for the game.

Wow, you're just over-reacting all over the place today.
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Post Post #3066 (isolation #128) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:03 pm

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In post 3058, Guillotina wrote:
In post 3053, Random Nurse wrote: I think I'll target Guillotina tonight if I can't have their head today.
You will not have my head today, and you will waste your action but it is your action to waste, we will however not waste an elimination by voting me out here because i am sooooo spewed town here that whoever is scum, the poor wolfies must be struggling to come out of the shithole they are in and executing me would be like the perfect best case scenerio for them today, so instead, we will not do that today and we will not entertain stupid tunnels from irrationally thinking people either. Period.

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Post Post #3071 (isolation #129) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:04 pm

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In post 3069, TimmerRC wrote: Btw I would love to try to catch up and play and contribute, but the concept of why I'm thy lim target just makes there be no point. So just lim me, there's no point in me trying to catch up. I can't argue against nothing, you all know deep down that I'm town but you just don't seem to care.

The lack of spirit in FIGHTING this is not convincing me that you're Town.

If you are Town, FIGHT.
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Post Post #3074 (isolation #130) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:35 pm

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Can you share any current reads?

I don't want to sense that you're Scum giving up the fight.
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Post Post #3076 (isolation #131) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:42 pm

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So maybe it's Timmer and Hu Tao?

Have to see what Timmer flips if/when that happens.
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Post Post #3100 (isolation #132) » Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:34 am

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In post 3094, Naerys wrote:
In post 3093, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 3087, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
In post 3073, TimmerRC wrote: This is not a game for a newbie, and even when I ask an effing question, I get told I'm feigning being town and making my questions up. So there's literally nowhere for me to go.
I agree it's not a game for a newbie. I am not really sure why you signed up for it considering it's clearly tagged as mechanically complex.

Still, let me help you. Mechanical clear means that the mechanics of the game (i.e power roles) cleared a person. A person who is investigated inno by a cop is a mech clear. A person who is an un'cced PR in an open game with said PR is a mechanical clear.

No one in this game is actually a public mechanical clear, but Naerys (who claimed Friendly Neighbor on Guillotina) is a mechanical clear in the eyes of Guillotina, and since I think Guillotine is town then I also consider Naerys a mechanical clear. Hu Tao is a mechanical clear IF there is no roleblocker / rolestopper, due to how RN's role works (ssbm_Kyouko explained it earlier).
You seriously think this person is scum? Can we please try something else?
I hate what i have to write, but limming Timmer makes sense. He is clearly struggling, doesnt really know what to do. I kinda feel like it would be mercy for him to be eliminated and not having to suffer anymore. We can afford a mislim and for us its also better not keeping him here untill endgame.
Also he could be scum, i remember how Khaos acted so its not really that unlikely.

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Post Post #3101 (isolation #133) » Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:37 am

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...if ssbm is Scum she is playing very well.

How likely it is, I wonder, if there's one Scum among Timmer, BQ2, and Hu Tao?

Guillotina I'd be open to limming today.

I also want to check who Naery's FN target was again.
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Post Post #3102 (isolation #134) » Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:38 am

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Dunnstral hanging out in the periphery just within eyesight is annoying me.
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Post Post #3114 (isolation #135) » Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:38 am

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In post 3110, Jingle wrote: RCTimmer has requested replacement.

*sigh*
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Post Post #3115 (isolation #136) » Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:39 am

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I'd be fine with a Guillotina flip today.

What are the odds a VCA would yield anything worthwhile?
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Post Post #3121 (isolation #137) » Sun Dec 31, 2023 10:31 am

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Post Post #3123 (isolation #138) » Sun Dec 31, 2023 10:41 am

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CSF Scumread Gamma (we know they're both Scum).

We already know Celebloki is Town, and from my standpoint I'm Town.

I'm inclined to believe CSF would at least Scumread one member and Townread another member.

In #536 she marked Hu Tao, Kawaii (dead Town), SSBM, and Elements as Town.

Hu Tao, SSBM, Elements...

Part of me wants to think CSF would put one of each team member in Town, Scum, and Null territory.

Gamma was already in Scum territory for CSF. For Town it could be HT/SSBM/Elements. Null, one of the rest.

CSF questioning Guillotina in #547 could be an attempt to distance.
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Post Post #3128 (isolation #139) » Sun Dec 31, 2023 11:24 am

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In post 3126, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 3102, Random Nurse wrote: Dunnstral hanging out in the periphery just within eyesight is annoying me.
You've done much worse this game lad. Posted nothing of value for ~6 days and then asked what the rush was while the game was stalled.

As Town I don't HAVE to be active. Me feeling you're in the periphery just within eyesight is my opinion, and my activity level has no bearing giving that opinion. Also we had well over a week left so we COULD have made use of that time instead of rushing with that mis-lim.

If you're Scum be VERY careful how you rerspond to me.
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Post Post #3131 (isolation #140) » Sun Dec 31, 2023 11:29 am

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In post 3129, Dunnstral wrote: Well as Town I don't HAVE to be active either then.

It's not quite the same but I appreciate the attempt.

Currently I feel that you're ever-present but hanging back. That's typically how you play, and it makes me feel paranoid because then I can barely read you and it feels like my focus is barely on you because you're in the background.
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Post Post #3150 (isolation #141) » Sun Dec 31, 2023 12:53 pm

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OK, I'm not changing my vote from Guillotina today.
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Post Post #3156 (isolation #142) » Sun Dec 31, 2023 11:26 pm

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There's for sure at least one in Hu Tao, BQ2, and Guillotina.

I want to see SSBM engage a little more.
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Post Post #3173 (isolation #143) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 8:15 am

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Post Post #3218 (isolation #144) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 2:00 am

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Hey, I'm back on days for the first half of this month and will be in new job orientation from 0800 to 1630 each weekday. I'll be glancing at the game when I can but I'm tied up making good impressions on my new overlords.
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Post Post #3243 (isolation #145) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:45 am

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In post 3230, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
Can we like, NOT vote Enchant? They are third obvtown slot after Nurse and HT.


I don't like this post.

"They are obvTown" is dangerous because Scum can emulate "obvTown" behavior easily. IF you've played with the person long enough to tell the difference then fine, but I wouldn't say that regarding players you haven't played with before (unless, of course, you're an alt?).
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Post Post #3246 (isolation #146) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:34 am

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In post 3245, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
Nurse where does your sense of scent say the scum are

I am not feeling as much aggression from you this game and I am starting to doubt my obvTown read on you (you can thank your own post for that, since it made me re-evaluate).

Can't be aggressive if you don't have time. Do you want me to bore you with the shit that went down these last couple weeks?

I can help you re-evaluate if you want to pursue this further.
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Post Post #3298 (isolation #147) » Fri Jan 05, 2024 5:24 am

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Post Post #3315 (isolation #148) » Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:24 am

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In post 3299, davesaz wrote: I think it's one scum in RN/Guillo, and one in Enchant (Key)/JV (Timmer).

Naerys and myself are the only people I don't suspect in some way.

Hu Tao's lie is not something I'm ever going to forget
Brocolli gets some scum equity as a pushy and somewhat manipulative slot IMO who is still around

One of the millers is a distinct possibility. Totally mixed feelings on Kyouko, correctness on mech isn't really AI and there are flashes of feeling like there is an agenda.
Dunnstral's role is confirmed, mafia miller is basically the only way he can be scum and he'd be last in POE.

Well this is new.

Why exactly do you mention me, Dave?

Explain to me your exact thought process.
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Post Post #3316 (isolation #149) » Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:26 am

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If I was Scum I wouldn't have claimed such a ridiculously convoluted PR.
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Post Post #3318 (isolation #150) » Fri Jan 05, 2024 11:05 am

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In post 3317, davesaz wrote: One of those sets is PRs that can't be / haven't been confirmed. The other set is claimed vanillas with predecessors who couldn't find a read if it was on a table in front of them.

As for whether you'd claim something convoluted or not as scum, I really don't know. One of the hallmarks of skilled scum is doing things people think they wouldn't do.

And, knowing our extensive history together, how skilled do you think I am in general as SCUM?

Be honest please—I won't be offended.
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Post Post #3322 (isolation #151) » Fri Jan 05, 2024 2:07 pm

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In post 3319, davesaz wrote: Don't think I've seen you as scum since I came back?

I've been Scum multiple times and don't do well as Scum.

I don't remember the exact games but I think you've played with me long enough to have a clue about my Town meta.
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Post Post #3336 (isolation #152) » Sat Jan 06, 2024 3:12 am

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OK so why exactly are people voting JV now instead of Guillotina?

Gut is saying Guillotina currently.
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Post Post #3338 (isolation #153) » Sat Jan 06, 2024 3:53 am

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In post 3337, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
In post 3336, Random Nurse wrote: OK so why exactly are people voting JV now instead of Guillotina?

Gut is saying Guillotina currently.

Because my gut tells me so.
Why exactly is Guillotina scum?
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Post Post #3339 (isolation #154) » Sat Jan 06, 2024 3:53 am

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In post 3337, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
In post 3336, Random Nurse wrote: OK so why exactly are people voting JV now instead of Guillotina?

Gut is saying Guillotina currently.
Why exactly is Guillotina scum?

Because my gut tells me so.
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Post Post #3351 (isolation #155) » Sat Jan 06, 2024 8:20 am

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In post 3341, Enchant wrote: Random Nurse - Literally obvtown. Neutral. Solution: try to not anger

There is wisdom in this.
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Post Post #3369 (isolation #156) » Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:22 pm

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In post 3354, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
WE DON'T NEED TO CONFIRM NAERYS

NAERYS IS OBVTOWN


Can we PLEASE kill JV instead?

I'm literally telling you that no matter what JV flips, I'll sheep you tomorrow. And if I sheep you, whoever you vote will be eliminated. 100% guaranteed.


Please stop.

Being "obvTown" is not "confTown."

Just because other players are obviously Town to you doesn't mean they are, and you OnvTowning me and Naerys (as an example) doesn't me
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Post Post #3370 (isolation #157) » Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:23 pm

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OK so if JV is Town or Scum what then?
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Post Post #3371 (isolation #158) » Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:23 pm

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Wait, who do I target?
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Post Post #3372 (isolation #159) » Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:24 pm

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I'll target Guillotina. Or Dunnstral. Probably Guillotina.
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Post Post #3374 (isolation #160) » Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:25 pm

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Gut tells me JV lim was probably mis-lim, although Timmer slot kind of read as defeated newbscum to me. Can't tell too well.
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Post Post #3376 (isolation #161) » Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:28 pm

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If JV was Scum then look at who fought the most against it.

If Naerys (other FN) doesn't die then that's suss, especially if I don't get nailed tonight. Scum would want to take out any remaining FN, right?
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Post Post #3377 (isolation #162) » Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:29 pm

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In post 3375, JacksonVirgo wrote: I was a mislim yes

Yeah I don't have your flip yet.
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Post Post #3379 (isolation #163) » Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:30 pm

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Theoretically it should be either me or Naerys shot dead tonight.
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Post Post #3380 (isolation #164) » Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:31 pm

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In post 3378, JacksonVirgo wrote: This might be bias because I felt broccoli's read on me was an agenda, but look into that

~~*nNNNNN*~~ Yeah I need to see your flip first Thro.
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Post Post #3382 (isolation #165) » Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:05 pm

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In post 3381, Naerys wrote:
In post 3379, Random Nurse wrote: Theoretically it should be either me or Naerys shot dead tonight.
You think dave wont get killed?

What was he again?
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Post Post #3384 (isolation #166) » Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:22 pm

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In post 3383, Enchant wrote:
In post 3372, Random Nurse wrote: I'll target Guillotina. Or Dunnstral. Probably Guillotina.
Good for ya.

That's all you're gonna say?
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Post Post #3703 (isolation #167) » Fri Jan 26, 2024 1:14 pm

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No Scum PT?

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