Mini Normal 2327: Bird Species (Game Over)

[Naerys]

Hi
VOTE: shaddowez

[Naerys]

Am I the only one who got 4 PM's about gamestart

also got 4 pms

[Naerys]

Not going to grudge vote

[Naerys]

Is she also a good town player?

Yes, she is.

[Naerys]

I'm asking you why you're assuming he's town who wants to kill you for being good at mafia rather than mafia trying to push you for an excuse

good point, Aristeia feels towny thanks to this post

[Naerys]

Trying to joke with a joker is a bad idea.

[Naerys]

BTW, is there anything we deduce from the text on Snowy Owl?
3 threats (human activity, climate change, decline in species they hunt) = 3 scums?
Or based on your experience here it's just a text with no hints?

Text with no hints

[Naerys]

VOTE: gob
sus

[Naerys]

That's not OMGUS. That's me trying to figure you out

I dont think its possible to figure gob out entirely

[Naerys]

Naerys what about gob specifically do you find sus? Is it just the policy lim stuff

yup, kinda the policy lim stuff
it feels to me like a posturing

[Naerys]

Don't worry Naerys: I'm Town again this time.

This doesnt sit well with me, feels like posturing.

[Naerys]

I do actually think Black is kinda scummy btw, it's not just me lolsheeping gob

What exactly do you feel scummy about Black

[Naerys]

Pink fluffy balloon is a threat no matter how much he tries to look nonthreatening

[Naerys]

*I haven't been that active currently because I am actively going through the process of buying my first home. Bit preoccupied.

Understandable, hopefully all goes well for you

[Naerys]

-SNIP-
Need to take another look at some point : T3,Naerys,StD,Shaddow
-SNIP-

Thought i'd clear a few of these out.

Shaddow feels null to me rn. I don't really agree with their 80 and 93 in regards to Black, but I think it leans more towards real thought than a stretch. Otherwise not much else there for me to make a read off of. Find myself liking their 113 a little bit, so would maybe say null-town right now below Ari/Black

My brain instinctively doesn't like T3's 163 as a follow up to the 64 vote on Black. Kind of pings as justification in post to me due to the original vote lacking reasoning earlier. Would probs put at either the scum side of null or a scumlean atm. Question for T3

Black might be scum for what she posted on earlier pages

Feels like she's trying to give the impression of a nuanced thought process

Why do you find this to be scum indicative?

I like your thoughts here a lot, i kinda disliked that T3 post too

[Naerys]

Would be nice if T3 explained his SR of Black a little more.
Anyway solid town block for me rn is Snow, Ari,Smiley
Kinda starting to feel better about gob, he doesnt feel manipulative at all, i can understand fear of Black even if i dont really agree with his push.
Black is good player that is hard to read.
And more will come later, work time

[Naerys]

UNVOTE:
back from work

[Naerys]

but i kinda forgot what i wanted to write

[Naerys]

but i kinda forgot what i wanted to write

Why did you unvote gob?

well i did say in the morning that i started to feel better about him
btw have you seen scum!gob leading wagons or just hopping on them? for me its the latter, i have never seen him leading a wagon, so from my point of view him pushing u so hard is just weird for possible scum!gob

[Naerys]

bros im in love..

i pity you

[Naerys]

tired from work, sorry

[Naerys]

Pretty good read from NotAScum

What exactly?

[Naerys]

i am a worthless piece of shit

No, you are not, Gob.
You are our pinky funny guy

[Naerys]

*hugs Gob*

[Naerys]

Kinda starting to feel better about gob, he doesnt feel manipulative at all, i can understand fear of Black even if i dont really agree with his push.

I'm trying to make sense of this - you don't like gob's push (fine), but unless you know that Black is town I'm not sure why manipulation is the argument you'd go with for gob's arguments.

I just feel that gob´s motivation could be genuine fear of Black, not some attempt to manipulate gamestate
idk how to better word that

[Naerys]

As soon as people stop questioning me, you unvote, how convenient

I haven't been able to read the thread that much. I didn't notice nor know why people stopped questioning you because they should question you even more, especially after this post. Are you town?

I just assume they are joking. Snow is new so he may not know why it's not optimal

Are you saying not exiling anyone on D1 is sub-optimal? There's basically near zero info available on D1, so chance of a misexile is high. That's why I think we should start exiling people from D2 when there's some more info available.

How do u want to get info if u dont lim? Besides scum would likely just shoot snow which would give us 0 info
The best info we get from wagons and limming

[Naerys]

Gob, are you okay? I have never seen you spam nonsense as much as now

[Naerys]

VOTE: T3
looked at his iso and i agree its bad

T3, whom do you SR?

[Naerys]

Gob, are you okay? I have never seen you spam nonsense as much as now

yea im having fun

my spamming nonsense, its not all nonsense either. Ive placed facts in each of my “nonsense posts” for perceptive viewers

where is fact in "fuck"

[Naerys]

i hate repeating stuff people already said

[Naerys]

yaaaa i am still here, just being tired and lazy,
dw Black i plan to answer you

[Naerys]

Naerys is playing a lot differently than town games I've been in with her. There's a lot less effort, and 79 and 155 seem like she's setting up a reason to vote later on.

VOTE: Naerys

lot less effort yes (was tired from work)
setting up a reason? nope

[Naerys]

i hate repeating stuff people already said

What do you not like about his ISO?

He felt rather bland up untill pressure was put on him, then he started to look a bit better. It could be just me, but like his first 20 or so posts felt kinda forced. Like he couldnt really get into the game. But as someone with bad d1 i can relate to that.

I also need to gather my thoughts bcz i started to lose a touch with this game a bit. Hopefully this weekend will be good for that.

UNVOTE:

[Naerys]

im an evil ass dude

i be doing evil ass shit

Pink = evil, it is known

[Naerys]

I kinda feel like despite having over 20 pages, nothing much happened this day.

[Naerys]

Large part of this day was gob vs black and the gamestate feels like a stale bread.

[Naerys]

i am about to go to sleep

[Naerys]

VOTE: t3
good night

[Naerys]

But why

Largely PoE, based on knowns and weak town reads. While not impossibly, it's highly unlikely that all 3 scum are on T3, but based on the fact that there were no votes on scum it's reasonable to assume that all 3 scum were voting. Since T3 was the wagon that went through, my guess is that 2 of the scum were on that wagon. I was SRing Naerys yesterDay (and voting there until deadline), and this hasn't changed. Her position on the wagon is also suspect. So, who's the second? It's not me, Cakez, or Ari, which leaves Black, RN, and Smiley. I'm TRing Smiley, and between the other two since I'm already SRing Naerys the below points me to RN:

Don't worry Naerys: I'm Town again this time.

This doesnt sit well with me, feels like posturing.

As for StD, the only other person I'm not TRing much at all is NaS, but I think it's more likely scum was on a wagon than not.

Sus position? You do realise that we were close to deadline, right? I placed my vote there bcz i felt T3 has better chance of flipping scum. I was wrong. And now i see that you are posting stuff that is ripped off from context.
pedit:STOP TALKING

[Naerys]

VOTE: Naerys

Why?

[Naerys]

He has to be a Vig. If he's scum that killed Cakez then the real Vig would have killed Ari and they would come forward and reveal that gob is scum

Not neccesarily. I dont really want to speculate on this rn tho.

[Naerys]

I am the Vig. I killed Cakez. Gob is scum.

VOTE: Gob

You could have just send him to his funeral at next night, if you are the vig.

[Naerys]

I cannot kill at N2. Had I remained silent and been killed at N2, Gob's claim would have been unchallenged.

Ah. Honestly, i am inclined to trust you over gob. The problem with gob is, that he is often rather unreadable. I went from SRing him yesterday for weird push on Black to TRing him, bcz i have never seen bold scum gob like that, from my pov gob usually likes to manipulate from the shadows, perhaps someone who played more with him could correct me on this.

[Naerys]

Gob is obvscum here trying to run me up to a claim

Hey, knowing your history, it could be just some heavy distancing between you 2

[Naerys]

I cannot kill at N2. Had I remained silent and been killed at N2, Gob's claim would have been unchallenged.

Ah. Honestly, i am inclined to trust you over gob. The problem with gob is, that he is often rather unreadable. I went from SRing him yesterday for weird push on Black to TRing him, bcz i have never seen bold scum gob like that, from my pov gob usually likes to manipulate from the shadows, perhaps someone who played more with him could correct me on this.

What games are you basing this read on scum!gob off of

recently finished 2326,
also he was scum in Cop 17er if i remember correctly, before he replaced out
plus micro 1097
those are the ones i come up with my memory

[Naerys]

I think your meta read isn't very useful here

true lol, sometimes its better to follow your instincts (or dreams )

[Naerys]

VOTE: gob

[Naerys]

Gob spent day 1 hard pushing Black and then somehow vigs Cakez? I dont see much logic there

[Naerys]

Yes, nurse

[Naerys]

okay first off, who i push openly and who i actuakly sr are different. You should know that.

You don’t know how i play, simply

thats basically admitting to having a hidden agenda, bcz town really shouldnt be doing this

[Naerys]

I mean yeah it doesn't feel very logical to want to fade me instead of the guy you think is fake claiming Vig

…


Did I say that?

I said my gut pinged on both Gob and you. That’s it.

Over-extend much?

Why do you scumread gob?

I didn’t say that.

I just feel two Vigs can’t exist and between Gob and Snow my gut pinged on Gob.

Can’t exactly explain intuition.

And voting Black solves this HOW?

[Naerys]

Gut's yelling me it's Gob and Black together doing theater.

I'll have to consult with my gut over this while dreaming.

my gut reaction was the same. something about gob and blacks back and forth feels manufactured. I can't pinpoint where though. I think gob is a goon but we'll know that at the end of the day

Yeah, that. The exchanges felt... odd. Not natural.

Help me fade gob then

Why the rush?

Why do you think I can't just launch you first and then savage the other two?

To me it feels like you wish to make a mess of this game, tbh. There is clearly fake vig claim and we should focus on that.

[Naerys]

sus people:
gob
NotAScum
RN
StD

Town:
Smiley
Snow

Hu,Black,shaddowez are null

[Naerys]

I'm not sure why so many people are thinking I'm scum with gob

remember certain game where you succesfully distanced and won as a scum? the memory is still fresh

[Naerys]

Hi
sorry i didnt manage to answer you, shadow, hope you dont mind if i postpone that till tomorrow

[Naerys]

i am sorry i caught bad flu and i am not in a state to think
hopefully will be better tmorrow

[Naerys]

sus people:
gob
NotAScum
RN
StD

Town:
Smiley
Snow

Hu,Black,shaddowez are null

Why StD in the sus pool?

I am not good at reading StD at all, and one of previous games made me wáry of him. Its moot anyway, since StD is conf town.

[Naerys]

VOTECOUNT 1.10

T3

(7)

- Black,

SirCakez

, Random Nurse,

SmileyDude1

, Naerys,

Aristeia

, shaddowez

SirCakez

(4)

-

Save the Dragons

,

T3

, Hu Tao,

gob

No Elimination (1)

-

Snow2697

Not Voting (1)

- NotAScum

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2024-02-26 01:12:53).

Another thing to consider, do we think the T3 wagon was pure? I'm inclined to think no given the general state of the gamestate (both main wagons on town, I think scum being completely off one of them feels unlikely.

Yeah I think i'd be down for Nurse, Black.

VOTE: Random Nurse

I personally am getting paranoid about shaddowez a little, i will need to reread once i feel bit better

[Naerys]

rereading time

[Naerys]

Naerys may be frozen scum that doesn't know what to do in this game state

No, i really am ill, i wouldnt lie about that. I considered replacing out, but i just dont want to lol

[Naerys]

rereading time

Yay

I hope you're feeling better

I also hope you're feeling better. How's the reading coming along?

Yup, thanks. Considering the fact that i know i am town i am looking at those who are suspecting me, bcz all scum really needs right now is to push some LHF through. One of you/Black could be scum. What do you think about Black, btw?

[Naerys]

maybe you didn't know how to believably re-insert yourself into the game

I am struggling a little tbh. But i think thats NAI, bcz anyone after mostly sleeping through 2 days would have probs to get back to the game

[Naerys]

rereading time

Yay

I hope you're feeling better

I also hope you're feeling better. How's the reading coming along?

Yup, thanks. Considering the fact that i know i am town i am looking at those who are suspecting me, bcz all scum really needs right now is to push some LHF through. One of you/Black could be scum. What do you think about Black, btw?

It's not scummy to consider that you may be scum

I am just saying that the reason you picked is NAI.

[Naerys]

I think RN might be town too. The "why are people voting for me" comments just feel too guilty and I don't think scum are super likely to show visible concern about it over and over again

Still waiting on Naerys

What exactly are you waiting on? I am not a content maker, never was and never will be.

[Naerys]

Honestly, i prefer to observe and ocassionally pointing stuff out that stands out. I dont like making cases bcz i suk at that

[Naerys]

Little owl - Athene noctua

The little owl can be identified by their small size relative to other animals, their brown feathers with white spots, and their piercing yellow glare. This bird is native to Eurasia, from France to China, but it was first introduced into the UK by humans in the 1800s. It has similarly been introduced to New Zealand, but not Australia for whatever reason. For the most part, it eats small birds and small mammals, but it can also eat worms. It is monogamous and will often stay with a single partner for most of its life. Due to its large range, it is rated LC by the IUCN. Its population trend appears to be stable.

VOTECOUNT 2.2

gob (6)

- Black, Naerys, NotAScum, Hu Tao, Random Nurse, Snow2697

Black (3)

- gob, Save the Dragons

Not Voting (4)

- shaddowez, SmileyDude1, Snow2697

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to eliminate.

The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2024-03-06 10:33:47).

cant really rule out hardbus from scum out there but i feel like scum would prefer not to be close with each other

in town!Black word that leaves Hu,RN,NAS and shaddow to look at
if i believe Black about NAS being newb town then Hu-RN-shaddow contains both scum
the problem is i dont really trust Black

[Naerys]

Black what do you think about shaddow?

[Naerys]

What do you think about shaddow?

Its my prefered lim for today, tbh.

[Naerys]

VOTE: Hu Tao

e-1

Are you SR Hu Tao that much? Why?

[Naerys]

Do you townread Hu and if so then why?

The problem with Hu is that i never know what to think of her. When i TR her, then she flips scum. And when i SR her, she flips town. Might have to look at gob/Hu interactions, but i am not good at seeing partner equity at all. Do you have some examples?

[Naerys]

i will post few Gob-Hu interactions i actually find curious

BTW, is there anything we deduce from the text on Snowy Owl?
3 threats (human activity, climate change, decline in species they hunt) = 3 scums?
Or based on your experience here it's just a text with no hints?

Nice to meet you, Snow. Glad to see you got a green pm

Uhhhh


isnt this a slip?

VOTE: black sheeping gob

VOTE: cakez

This is towny from Cakex actually

Why?

just is, trust me

honestly std has been bugging me
more than black


anyone want to vote std?

I'd rather vote t3

bye bye

[Naerys]

But then again, some of gobs post make me look bad too

[Naerys]

My reads on Hu are officialy bad

[Naerys]

Black
StD

shaddowez

Random Nurse

NAS/Naerys

I think we flip in the bottom tier today. I would be willing to go RN if enough people felt strongly about it

I don't have the time tonight but as soon as I can I'm going to dive into NAS/Naerys and figure out which one is more likely to complete the sweep

I am not the last scum.

[Naerys]

Yeah we'll see about that

No need to. I am odd night doctor.

[Naerys]

Who do you think is the last scum?

i am leaning shaddow.

[Naerys]

Yeah we'll see about that

No need to. I am odd night doctor.

I Did target Smiley at night btw. Asume scum had J-shot or roleblocker

[Naerys]

And N1 target was Snow
sorry i am writing like this but i am half asleep and my thoughts are garbled

[Naerys]

Who do you think is the last scum?

i am leaning shaddow.

Why? Partnered interactions?

It seems risky for scum to decide to bus Hu after gob already died, but it's possible. Especially if the intent was to set shaddow up for end-game. I just think maybe they could have pushed something else through instead of going for the bus

I am the only one who was not on Hu wagon. Scum NEEDED to be on the wagon, since it was clear that Hu wont wring out of that situation. So scum needed to hide if he/she wanted to have atleast some more chance to win. Staying out of wagon wasnt option for scum.

[Naerys]

Yeah we'll see about that

No need to. I am odd night doctor.

I Did target Smiley at night btw. Asume scum had J-shot or roleblocker

Really strange that they would target you and not me considering I claimed PR

i am just guessing, it could have been a j-shot

[Naerys]

also i didnt really like shaddow´s pushing me
i think you(Black) are trying to solve the game, my instincts are leaning town on you
if you are right about NAS then its RN vs shaddow and i feel better about Nurse

[Naerys]

... fuk

[Naerys]

thats nice play scummy boi but i am odd night doctor, sorry

[Naerys]

VOTE: NAS

[Naerys]

what pt? i have none

[Naerys]

it was exclamation of disbelief that scum would actually try that

[Naerys]

You yourself said that NAs was suspicious yesterday

[Naerys]

kinda think it's naerys here but im worried there's a lot of power on the town side

i feel like there's a possibility for 2 1-shot ninjas on the mafia said but it's pretty small

Would ascetic show up at watchers investigations?
imagine me and NAS both town and scum is laughing in shadows

[Naerys]

Investigative roles (Cops, Role Cops, Watchers, etc.) should receive "no result" if attempting to investigate an Ascetic role.

!!!

[Naerys]

so maybe NAS could be town lol

[Naerys]

black could you claim please

[Naerys]

Huh.

VOTE: Naerys

Dummy.

[Naerys]

I'm just going to write Black off as tunneled for now. :/

why? i am odd night doctor, there is nothing to be tunneled about

[Naerys]

does x-shot ascetic juggernaut sound plausible?

[Naerys]

still trying to figure out wth happened at night

[Naerys]

oh wait ascetic is a role

[Naerys]

The game is over, unless there are like 4 scums. Assuming 3 scums, Naerys is the last one. Either we lim naerys today or lim me today and naerys tomorrow. Either way we'll win.

I'm the town indecisive watcher.

My night actions:

N1 - watch black - smileydude visited black (Notice I asked smileydude who he visited N1 and why to check if he's telling the truth. I also asked smileydude what does he think of black specifically and didnt asked his opinion on anyone else. I did ask black and hu tao what they did to avoid making it look like im just asking a specific question to just one specific player which would easily give away my pr.)

N2 - watch snow - no one visited him (Snow outed himself and it was obvious he'll get night killed. However it was odd since no one visited him and he was dead. It makes sense now that we know hu tao is ninja.)

N3 - watch smileydude - naerys visited him (Again it was obvious he'll get night killed last night since he outed himself last day.)

So naerys visited smileydude last night and thats solves the game. Unless theres some godfather who again night killed and avoided my watch, 99% chance its naerys. I mean whatre the chances that 2 watch dodger roles are in the game? Quite unlikely.

VOTE: Naerys

Does a Godfather act like a Ninja? I thought it just turned up Inno on Cop results?

godfather isnt allowed in regulars i think?

[Naerys]

Bah i give upVOTE: naerys

[Naerys]

Sorry, gob,Hu i tried

[Naerys]

i am just so bad at being scum -.-

[Naerys]

my plan would have worked if there wasnt fkin watcher tho

[Naerys]

I wanted to get one of RN/shaddow to be limmed, NK black
then yeet maybe NAS and night with no kill (claiming i docced std) so my position as doc would be solid
*sigh*

[Naerys]

Good game tho

[Naerys]

I was 1-Shot Bulletproof. I was hoping you would NK me

then i´d claim i docced u, i think it´d be rather believeable

[Naerys]

i was mafia reporter btw

[Naerys]

I dont get why scum didnt kill me though. I was always afraid from D1 that I gave away my role easily.

killing vig and neap was more important, we didnt suspect u as PR

[Naerys]

we didnt suspect u as PR

hahah i won the game

i felt like this
when my vig shot helped with catching scum team in one of previous games
its really good feeling

[Naerys]

Thanks for hosting, Ausuka! Good job fellow townies and decent effort from scums. Did you really not anticipate watcher's existence from there being a ninja among you?

we thought its black

[Naerys]

Hi just wanted to comment that when I saw this game on Day 1 I asked Ausuka to be notified if there's a repacement opportunity because this seemed like a fun game and then this went on to have 0 replacements

Good job townies!

[Naerys]

Maybe next time