The Werewolves of Millers Hollow (Game Over)

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #22 (isolation #0) » Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:23 am

Vote: Juls for Mayor

Pretty girls scare away werewolves...

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #82 (isolation #1) » Wed Apr 08, 2009 12:33 pm

Unvote Mayor; Vote Mayor: BattleMage

*bows at insane post count*

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #147 (isolation #2) » Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:49 pm

I prefer treating Xtotm as a miller, as previously mentioned.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #173 (isolation #3) » Fri Apr 10, 2009 7:46 am

STOP WITHT THE XTOXM WIFOM CRAP! If he's scummy, we lynch him. Simple as pie.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #176 (isolation #4) » Fri Apr 10, 2009 7:57 am

Mike's theory is also WIFOM, albeit valid and possible.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #179 (isolation #5) » Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:12 am

LAL is also not such an amazing strategy.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #185 (isolation #6) » Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:58 pm

The Fonz wrote:Thanks, Jahudo.

That's it? Did you gain something from it?

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #210 (isolation #7) » Sat Apr 11, 2009 6:09 am

Unvote; Vote Juls for mayor

Latest X metaing very pro-town.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #215 (isolation #8) » Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:45 am

WHY DO WE NEED THE WIFOM OF A XTOXM LYNCH. UNVOTE DIZZY!

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #218 (isolation #9) » Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:18 am

DizzyIzzyB13 wrote:
zwetschenwasser wrote:WHY DO WE NEED THE WIFOM OF A XTOXM LYNCH. UNVOTE DIZZY!
...what?

You heard me.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #220 (isolation #10) » Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:58 am

Unvote. Now.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #223 (isolation #11) » Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:27 am

IT'S A PILE OF WIFOM!

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #246 (isolation #12) » Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:38 am

I REALLY don't like scummayordom, especially since a scummy person contributing to a mislynch might very well be town.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #248 (isolation #13) » Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:34 am

If we elect a townie who's acting scummy or erratic, we'll effectively have killed two townies if the scummy mayor makes even a minor slip with regards to a lynch or another player. It's pretty much a flip of the coin.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #251 (isolation #14) » Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:50 am

It's WIFOM, Fire. That's what bothers me. For example, many think that I have an anti-town playstyle. If by your theory, you make me mayor because of it, and I mistakenly contribute to a subsequent mislynch, I would be under more suspicion than any of the other players on the wagon. Not to mention that mayorizing the scummiest player makes them act more protown and makes it harder for us to decide whether he's scum trying to fit in with his new role or just a wishy washy confused townie. Overall, I think we should just do the normal mayor electing method of pro-towniness.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #253 (isolation #15) » Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:53 am

But if we have a more suspicious mayor, it'll be much easier for either the scum to manipulate the town into lynching him earlier, or it'll be much easier for the scumbuddies to bus him and gain townpoints.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #257 (isolation #16) » Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:06 am

The mayor won't be the one manipulating, it'll be his scumbuddies or just plain simple opportunistic scum. A scum mayor makes easier for scum to coordinate mislynches once the mistakenly assumed scum mayor contributes to a mislynch, and makes it easier for the mayor's scumbuddies gain townpoints once they bus him to death. It's a win-win for the scum.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #259 (isolation #17) » Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:11 am

Then what if a town mayor accidentally chooses scum? Then the scum has a free pass for a while.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #261 (isolation #18) » Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:15 am

I have no idea what the setup is, but I'm saying that the scum would have an

easier

time doing what they have to do anyway to win: coordinate mislynches and possibly bus their partners.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #263 (isolation #19) » Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:21 am

But that doesn't address the benefits gained by the scum mayor's buddies.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #266 (isolation #20) » Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:25 am

Nope. If one of their own is elected mayor, then they can gain townie points by bussing them. The bussing would be more effective, and harder to confirm as bussing, because of the pedestal placed underneath the mayor. A mayor coordinating a mislynch is, as you said, worse than a townie coordinating a mislynch, so it would be easier for the scum to call their buddy out on the mislynches and effectively bus him WITHOUT the town saying anything (of course, because of the inevitable WIFOM that would ensue when the whole town is mad at the mayor for the mislynch).

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #268 (isolation #21) » Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:31 am

That is exactly my point, Fire. It's easier to find suspicion in a mayor elected through scumminess than through a mayor elected through towniness.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #270 (isolation #22) » Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:42 am

But the scum mayor will have a precedent of scumminess that anyone can take advantage of.

Can other people comment about this please? I'm unused to posting more than one liners...

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #272 (isolation #23) » Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:51 am

But the town's scumhunting will be biased against the scummy mayor.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #274 (isolation #24) » Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:55 am

*facepalm* I'll rest my case as it is and see what people think.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #277 (isolation #25) » Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:06 am

I'm pretty sure I've stated my concerns a couple of times:

1)If the scummy mayor is in fact a town player, the scum only need to wait for a couple of mislynches to be able to manipulate the town into lynching the mayor.

2)If the scummy mayor is scum, the scum only need to wait for a couple of mislynches to be able to effectively bus the mayor without much town disapproval. Yes, this kills scum, but also makes the bussing scum appear more pro-town.

3)The mayor has a harder time scumhunting, as the town is more inclined to take the opinions of a scum-elected mayor with a grain of salt.

4)The town is more inclined to look for scumtells in the scum-elected mayor than otherwise.

In order of detriment to the town, least to greatest: 4, 3, 1, 2.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #285 (isolation #26) » Sun Apr 12, 2009 12:37 pm

dingoatemybaby wrote:
Firestarter wrote:Have you bothered to read anything Ive posted over the last few pages Dingo?
I have indeed, and it is, in my opinion, a load of WIFOM justification for giving a scummy player more power.

This is the insight of an intelligent person.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #287 (isolation #27) » Sun Apr 12, 2009 12:44 pm

IT GIVES THE SCUM MORE POWER. If you claim you addressed all my points, I don't see it. Please explain why my concerns are unfounded or false.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #289 (isolation #28) » Sun Apr 12, 2009 12:51 pm

The most you can possibly make my concerns into is plain and simple WIFOM. Disregarding that WIFOM as "not foolproof" is very scummy to me.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #299 (isolation #29) » Sun Apr 12, 2009 1:27 pm

Hm... Firestarter seems abnormally dense today.

Unvote: Vote for Lynch: Firestarter

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #318 (isolation #30) » Mon Apr 13, 2009 1:54 am

Fire, FYI, Yos's post was pretty much an expansion on everything I was saying.

Fonz, this is my thought process:
Well, if we elect a town mayor, and he's wrong a couple of times, he's likely to be lynched quicker than if any other town person is wrong a couple of times.
If we elect a scum mayor, he will use his influence to get townies lynched, and we'll either let him live longer than other players, or kill him quicker because of scum bussing him more effectively.
If we elect a scum mayor, he will be bussed, and this will be bad because his scumbuddies will be basically confirmed.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #320 (isolation #31) » Mon Apr 13, 2009 2:01 am

But it's less likely to happen until later in the game, as the town won't be as inclined to attack a pro-town mayor than a scum mayor. Yes, his partners can bus, but the town will kill the partners, and once they find out that both of them were scum, we'll have a confirmed bussing case and kill the mayor and win the game! Yay!

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #323 (isolation #32) » Mon Apr 13, 2009 2:14 am

It gives him more of a free pass than anyone else in the game if he's elected on the grounds that he's the most pro-town. This happens in any normal game, e.g. cops don't usually investigate whoever they find is most beneficial to the town.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #327 (isolation #33) » Mon Apr 13, 2009 2:38 am

Me? Parroting? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #329 (isolation #34) » Mon Apr 13, 2009 2:51 am

Exactly. He's now a psychopathic OMGUSer.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #331 (isolation #35) » Mon Apr 13, 2009 3:26 am

WTF is my favorite phrase now.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #335 (isolation #36) » Mon Apr 13, 2009 5:30 am

Rolefishing, Mike?

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #339 (isolation #37) » Mon Apr 13, 2009 5:40 am

He's not forcing anything, Yos. Opportunistic much?

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #341 (isolation #38) » Mon Apr 13, 2009 5:45 am

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #343 (isolation #39) » Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:16 am

I've said it at least three times already: DON'T LYNCH XTOXM YET

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #345 (isolation #40) » Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:19 am

The Fonz wrote:
dingoatemybaby wrote:
The Fonz wrote: Well, you look scummy from a 'voting for game theory disagreement' perspective. But the countervote does look weak.
Please explain. I think it is overly simplistic to say I voted for him for "game theory disagreement". I voted for him because pushing an anti-town plan is scummy.
He obviously doesn't agree that the plan is antitown...

zwetschenwasser wrote:Yes.
Zwet is useless and antitown, so therefore naturally thinks that lynching useless and antitown players is a bad idea.

Vague ignorant generalizations FTW!

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #351 (isolation #41) » Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:24 am

Yosarian2 wrote:
zwetschenwasser wrote:I've said it at least three times already: DON'T LYNCH XTOXM YET
Why, you'd rather let him lurk a while longer first?

Actually yes, until we can actually get a read on him instead of policy lynching.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #353 (isolation #42) » Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:26 am

Do you really want to waste a lynch on him, though? If he's telling the truth he'll probably be nightkilled quickly.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #357 (isolation #43) » Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:32 am

An unlynchable townie is a HUGE liability for the scum the later they get into the game. As of now, as no one has claimed mega-super-lighting-babe unlimited daykill vig, their best bet is to kill Xt. If he's town I don't expect him alive tomorrow.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #363 (isolation #44) » Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:46 am

What about firestarter?

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #365 (isolation #45) » Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:49 am

He's scum.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #367 (isolation #46) » Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:53 am

Because of his scummy plan to give scum power.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #369 (isolation #47) » Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:55 am

Exactly my point.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #374 (isolation #48) » Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:10 am

Yes! Shadow Knight has intelligence and insight.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #386 (isolation #49) » Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:47 am

Where did 93 come from, SK?

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #388 (isolation #50) » Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:58 am

And it gives the scum's scumbuddies all the advantages I've spoken of a bunch of times.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #421 (isolation #51) » Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:43 am

I was going to say that Xt might have been trying to draw the nightkill with a gambit, but his replacement request seems out of place with that. AAH! Too much WIFOM!!!

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #424 (isolation #52) » Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:14 am

Dizzy, what are your thoughts on my anti-scum mayor concerns?

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #427 (isolation #53) » Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:24 am

Shinnen's new avatar freaks me out.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #429 (isolation #54) » Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:12 am

You've completely lost me. What do you mean?

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #431 (isolation #55) » Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:17 am

I don't understand what you're trying to say...

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #433 (isolation #56) » Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:28 am

^this^

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #436 (isolation #57) » Tue Apr 14, 2009 4:13 am

I highly doubt the replacement will be able to do anything.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #445 (isolation #58) » Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:07 am

Dr. Pepper, I was justifiably concerned for the town at hearing Fire's proposition. I actually care about winning this game, unlike some people whose names start with X...

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #520 (isolation #59) » Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:08 am

Yos blatantly rolefished last page, and noone noticed.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #523 (isolation #60) » Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:51 am

I think we're allowed to reverse the order though, dingo.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #529 (isolation #61) » Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:09 am

Xtotm succeeded in creating rampant chaos.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #532 (isolation #62) » Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:12 am

You are not Xtoxm. You are a master jester, as seen by your title. Xt is not.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #534 (isolation #63) » Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:15 am

PRUFT

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #538 (isolation #64) » Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:20 am

*facepalm* It's fine for a jester to win so we can cut back on the WIFOM which would otherwise plague us until the end of time.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #543 (isolation #65) » Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:55 am

Unvote; Vote: Xtotm/millar13 for lynch

HAMMA SLAMMA!

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #545 (isolation #66) » Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:30 am

I'm an adamant person, Mike. I also enjoy hammering...

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #547 (isolation #67) » Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:37 am

millar was at L-3 and Yos was already asking for a fullclaim.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #549 (isolation #68) » Wed Apr 15, 2009 6:01 am

Perhaps, but it's worth pursuing later.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #551 (isolation #69) » Wed Apr 15, 2009 6:20 am

It doesn't matter any more. I hammered him.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #553 (isolation #70) » Wed Apr 15, 2009 6:22 am

I'm fine with Fonz/Yos/Juls mayor.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #556 (isolation #71) » Wed Apr 15, 2009 6:52 am

Juls, would you like to be mayor?

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #565 (isolation #72) » Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:25 am

Battle Mage wrote:
zwetschenwasser wrote:Perhaps, but it's worth pursuing later.
actually, i really dont think it is. xD

FoS: Zwet

BM

Your opinion on something doesn't make mine a scumtell.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #573 (isolation #73) » Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:36 am

BM, I can't pursue it today, as Xtoxm has already been lynched.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #575 (isolation #74) » Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:39 am

Are you even reading my posts?

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #580 (isolation #75) » Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:52 am

Yos, BM is right about the votes.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #583 (isolation #76) » Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:57 am

IN YO FACE!

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #587 (isolation #77) » Wed Apr 15, 2009 12:37 pm

Unvote; Vote Yos for mayor

DOUBLE HAMMA! Sweet!

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #591 (isolation #78) » Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:22 am

Strange events FTW!

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #606 (isolation #79) » Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:24 pm

Anscumone wanting to get in my face about double hammering yesterday?

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #616 (isolation #80) » Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:59 am

zwetschenwasser wrote:*facepalm* It's fine for a jester to win so we can cut back on the WIFOM which would otherwise plague us until the end of time.

This is the pre-hammer post where I changed my mind on things.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #625 (isolation #81) » Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:34 am

I agree that millar's win con has probably already been met. Haschel could have been doing a mashup of the jester and VI role in this game.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #628 (isolation #82) » Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:56 am

I would laugh if all of the guys were town, and all the scum were women.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #632 (isolation #83) » Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:46 pm

Flub. Inothernews,Ididexplainwhyyosrolefished.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #651 (isolation #84) » Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:48 am

dingoatemybaby wrote:
zwetschenwasser wrote:Flub. Inothernews,Ididexplainwhyyosrolefished.
Was there anything scummy about Yos asking for a full claim of Millar towards the end of day 1? If so, please explain. If not, why bring it up?

No. It was rolefishing, but not scummy rolefishing. Percy, I couldn't care less if millar stays around for the rest of the game. The important thing is that the WIFOM surrounding him is gone.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #653 (isolation #85) » Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:50 am

PRUFT

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #655 (isolation #86) » Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:51 am

I have not made an issue of it.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #657 (isolation #87) » Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:55 am

Posted Right Under for Truthery

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #660 (isolation #88) » Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:02 am

To start discussion over Yos's posts. As it amounted to little, it's not really worth pursuing anymore.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #662 (isolation #89) » Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:08 am

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #666 (isolation #90) » Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:22 am

Why lynch lurkers? He's getting replaced soon.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #670 (isolation #91) » Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:54 am

I'm pretty sure he's getting replaced.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #678 (isolation #92) » Tue Apr 21, 2009 1:57 pm

Wrong percy, he was at L-3 when yos asked for a claim. Read more closely next time.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #681 (isolation #93) » Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:45 am

That's no longer my point. My point is that Percy is misrepping and purposefully lying about my argument. I find that scummy.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #683 (isolation #94) » Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:29 pm

I don't find it suspicious either. I find Percy's misrep of the situation suspicious.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #687 (isolation #95) » Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:27 pm

I'm not. I'm concerned with Percy's post on the last page.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #692 (isolation #96) » Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:10 pm

It seems that Percy is confused about the game details. I'll let it slide... for now.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #702 (isolation #97) » Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:35 am

The third paragraph has already been addressed by others, and I've said repeatedly that NO, I don't want to discuss Yos anymore.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #713 (isolation #98) » Sat Apr 25, 2009 4:20 am

dingoatemybaby wrote:I also agree that Mufasa is scummy. If he can not provide a good defense for himself, I am willing to change my vote. However, I also expect Zwet to step up and stop casting random accusations if he wants me to consider him town.

This is strange. Do you think my goal in this game is to convince you that I'm town? I'm playing to win, not playing to give you a townie read.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #715 (isolation #99) » Sat Apr 25, 2009 9:00 am

I already responded to that random accusation.

zwetschenwasser · Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:23 am

I don't find mufasa scummy at all.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #720 (isolation #101) » Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:57 am

He sounds like a busy guy, that's all. Neutral, mostly.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #722 (isolation #102) » Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:51 am

See? I rest my point.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #724 (isolation #103) » Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:17 am

Why turn so defensive, Muf?

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #727 (isolation #104) » Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:25 am

It was an honest mistake on Muf's part.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #729 (isolation #105) » Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:49 am

You didn't read his last post, did you? HE JUST GOT BACK FROM A TRIP, AND HE'S MILDLY DISORIENTED. Sheesh, give the guy a break!

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #731 (isolation #106) » Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:57 am

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #733 (isolation #107) » Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:13 am

My opinion is the reasoning.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #735 (isolation #108) » Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:17 am

It is qualified.

zwetschenwasser · Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:36 am

Percy, since when did it become a crime to defend someone you believe to be town from a mislynch?

zwetschenwasser · Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:37 am

Percy, it is scummy to a certain extent, but it's nowhere near enough of a case to lynch somebody.

zwetschenwasser · Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:38 am

Jahudo wrote:I don't see scumtells in this line of discussion. Dr. Pepper went after something and seems to have a valid reasoning for doing so; dingo had a valid reasoning for the original statement to Percy and both look like town to me.

Maybe tubby and mufasa can bring a new perspective when they catch up.

QFFT

zwetschenwasser · Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:20 am

End this pointless debate, my brethren, and concentrate on lynching the evil ones...

zwetschenwasser · Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:53 am

WHOOA! Cut the ad hom, people, please.

zwetschenwasser · Fri May 01, 2009 11:02 am

Is anybody there?

zwetschenwasser · Sun May 03, 2009 10:53 am

Aha! The third person reference psychological scumtell in all its splendor!

Unvote; Vote: Dr. Pepper

zwetschenwasser · Sun May 03, 2009 11:42 am

Dingo = good

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #822 (isolation #117) » Mon May 04, 2009 9:50 am

Mufasa wrote:Constantly avoiding me Dr Pepper you post right after me and dont even respond, and you expect me to answer a question.. jeesh

Do you have anything useful to comment on?

zwetschenwasser · Tue May 05, 2009 12:22 pm

Mufasa wrote:
Kaiveran wrote:Sup guys. I have a lot to read!
Why even post that. Waste of a post

Why even post that. Waste of a post.

zwetschenwasser · Wed May 06, 2009 11:28 am

*facepalm* Is this international out the powerroles day? Mufasa, why the heck did you claim? I'm getting jester vibes from you.

zwetschenwasser · Wed May 06, 2009 12:48 pm

Sorry, yos, but the jester speculation can't be ignored in this case. He's specifically asking to be lynched, so that the town can gain new powers.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #857 (isolation #121) » Wed May 06, 2009 1:06 pm

Mind Screw Mafia III: Townie Martyr

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #859 (isolation #122) » Wed May 06, 2009 1:23 pm

Mufasa wrote:I claimed because I thought that was the consensus on me

Ah, but you didn't claim. Nice slip.

Unvote; Vote: Mufasa

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #863 (isolation #123) » Thu May 07, 2009 9:55 am

Jahudo wrote:Fine.

unvote;
Vote: Dr. Pepper

Giving in to WIFOM that quickly?

zwetschenwasser · Thu May 07, 2009 12:50 pm

Sigh. You're right.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #871 (isolation #125) » Sat May 09, 2009 4:48 am

Unvote; Vote: Dr. Pepper

*smiles at Kaiveran's post*

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #873 (isolation #126) » Sat May 09, 2009 6:29 am

3rd person reference scumtell and twisting of Dingo's words.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #875 (isolation #127) » Sat May 09, 2009 1:58 pm

MikeSC6 wrote:Vote: catherina, obvscum.

Anyway, what sets Dr Pepper apart from the rest in that discussion? I didn't notice him being particularly scummy.

Also, who do you refer to as "rest" besides the discussee?

zwetschenwasser · Sun May 10, 2009 12:49 am

Reread the discussion and dingo's scumminess should stick out like a sore thumb.

zwetschenwasser · Mon May 11, 2009 10:43 am

Nonono, Dr. Pepper. *facepalm*

zwetschenwasser · Tue May 12, 2009 11:53 am

Jahudo wrote:Unless he's third party or a vampire or something similar

I never truly understood what a vampire was. Could you explain please?

zwetschenwasser · Tue May 12, 2009 12:08 pm

PRUFT

zwetschenwasser · Wed May 13, 2009 10:51 am

I want a claim.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #908 (isolation #133) » Thu May 14, 2009 9:07 am

*twiddles thumbs*

zwetschenwasser · Fri May 15, 2009 11:36 am

WTF???

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #931 (isolation #135) » Tue May 19, 2009 1:43 pm

Can all the scum post a comprehensive list of bad words we can't use?

zwetschenwasser · Wed May 20, 2009 10:38 am

I would say your case is crapwifom, but you already admitted it.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #960 (isolation #137) » Thu May 21, 2009 8:42 am

IT WAS INTENTIONAL!

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #962 (isolation #138) » Thu May 21, 2009 8:55 am

Hi dramonic. Are you scum?

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #964 (isolation #139) » Thu May 21, 2009 8:59 am

Unvote; Vote: dramonic

zwetschenwasser · Fri May 22, 2009 11:51 am

WAAAAA I lost my vote... You are scum, BM.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #988 (isolation #141) » Fri May 22, 2009 3:17 pm

Probably a no lynch.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #993 (isolation #142) » Sat May 23, 2009 1:49 am

*facepalm*

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #996 (isolation #143) » Sat May 23, 2009 2:57 am

VC please.

zwetschenwasser · Sun May 24, 2009 12:32 am

BM is the one trying to get everyone to lose their votes.

zwetschenwasser · Sun May 24, 2009 12:51 am

^obvscum

Confirm Fakevote: Battle Mage

zwetschenwasser · Sun May 24, 2009 7:52 am

WAAAA.... *crosses arms and pouts*

zwetschenwasser · Mon May 25, 2009 6:09 am

people who refer to themselves in third person during a case on somebody else are more likely scum in my experience.

zwetschenwasser · Mon May 25, 2009 6:20 am

zwetschenwasser · Mon May 25, 2009 6:26 am

Good.

zwetschenwasser · Mon May 25, 2009 10:41 am

Um... what?

zwetschenwasser · Tue May 26, 2009 10:49 am

What the heckuva is going on?

zwetschenwasser · Wed May 27, 2009 10:30 am

What was mufasa's claim again?

zwetschenwasser · Wed May 27, 2009 10:49 am

So what's the problem? If Mafia think he's a threat we get a free NK of a suspicious player, or we lynch him tomorrow and get a cool ability.

zwetschenwasser · Sat May 30, 2009 3:02 am

The name doesn't match the abilities. Impressionists aren't people who assume other forms, as they are the ones who try to impress onto others.

zwetschenwasser · Sat May 30, 2009 3:51 am

1)yes
2)no
3)no

zwetschenwasser · Sun May 31, 2009 4:39 am

MikeSC6 wrote:Ah, no- I thought his "saving Jahudo" thing was in reference to him being a doctor yesterday, rather than a jailkeeper.

QFT

zwetschenwasser · Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:23 am

YES I CAN VOTE OH YA MAMA

zwetschenwasser · Mon Jun 01, 2009 11:04 am

MikeSC6 wrote:That's six, by my count.

If we want to direct Mufasa's kill in case he's town, who does everyone think? Battle Mage seemed quite anxious to lynch Yos- one of those two could be a good bet- I'm leaning towards Battle Mage, for trying to lose people their votes, and the wish to lynch Yos based on what I think is weak evidence. I haven't been detecting scummy vibes from Yos, and killing our mayor now would just lead to WIFOMy situations and an unknown quantity really becoming mayor.

Something I do agree with is not letting Yos survive til the endgame though. I think we should lynch Yos sooner or later before the endgame, and keep lynching until we have a townie mayor that gives the mayorship to millar. A scummy mayor would do far more damage than a townie mayor would help, in my opinion.

It's five. I also have no idea why we should lynch Yos. He's been quite pro-town all game.

zwetschenwasser · Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:11 am

I love masked anti-republican jokes.

zwetschenwasser · Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:19 am

SSHHHH

zwetschenwasser · Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:45 am

DizzyIzzyB13 wrote:Zwet is a Republican? This shocks me. I would have thought that his restrictive posting would represent his love of restricted government, and he'd be a Libertarian.

Hell no I'm republican! I'm a 100% Democrat. Where did I imply I was republican?

zwetschenwasser · Wed Jun 03, 2009 2:27 am

Dizzy, you fail

zwetschenwasser · Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:12 am

Unvote; Vote: Mufasa

HAMMA!

zwetschenwasser · Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:29 am

Ugh. Why did mufasa have to act like a town martyr? What the hell was he thinking?

zwetschenwasser · Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:17 pm

And thanks to him we have NO leads besides whoever wanted to get Yos killed. THIS IS SO FRUSTRATING DAMMIT

zwetschenwasser · Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:44 am

I'd like a votecount please.

zwetschenwasser · Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:44 am

Why is dramonic almost dead?

zwetschenwasser · Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:32 am

BM, you seem conveniently biased.

zwetschenwasser · Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:49 am

His flip, of course. I wanted to lynch him to get the superpowers he claimed to have for the town.

zwetschenwasser · Sun Jun 14, 2009 4:03 am

No, scouam.

zwetschenwasser · Sun Jun 14, 2009 4:10 am

I see nothing scummy in a resurrection of a worthy discussion topic.

zwetschenwasser · Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:12 am

AHAHAHAHahaHAHahahahAha

zwetschenwasser · Sun Jun 14, 2009 1:33 pm

zwetschenwasser · Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:26 am

NabakovNabakov wrote:
zwetschenwasser wrote:Huh?
Please explain why the power Mufasa claimed would have helped the town.

I DON'T KNOW DAMMIT

zwetschenwasser · Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:12 am

Uh... this looks a lot like the Dingo/Pepper debate...

zwetschenwasser · Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:27 am

I don't like Mike's voting shenanigan.s

zwetschenwasser · Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:11 am

Sorry, RL has been a pain. I meant that they were arguing much like Dingo and Pepper were, but I do think that the voting jumpiness is a scumtell.

zwetschenwasser · Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:23 pm

Why is this game stalling...

zwetschenwasser · Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:39 pm

How did you guess?

zwetschenwasser · Sat Jun 20, 2009 1:20 am

HOW THE HECK IS YOS SCUMMY?

zwetschenwasser · Sat Jun 20, 2009 3:51 am

It's quite clear that Yos is probably one of the most pro-town people in this game.

zwetschenwasser · Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:59 am

Gorrad wrote:
zwetschenwasser wrote:It's quite clear that Yos is probably one of the most pro-town people in this game.
It's posts like this that make me love being in every game with Zwet's awe-inspiring scumhunting. How could ANYONE go against this maelstrom of logic?

zwetschenwasser · Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:22 am

I need to prove that someone is pro-town?

zwetschenwasser · Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:43 am

So... do you think Yos is pro-town?

zwetschenwasser · Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:51 am

No. But he's more involved in scumhunting/not following the general sway without good reasoning than other players.

zwetschenwasser · Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:43 am

HELLO PEOPLES

zwetschenwasser · Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:11 pm

ATTN ALL: I will be V/LA for approximately a month beginning this Sunday. However, I will be posting regularly for one and a half weeks of that month. If you feel a need for me to be replaced, please do so, but I would like to stay in my games. Thanks

zwetschenwasser · Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:48 am

Sheesh, people. POST

zwetschenwasser · Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:07 am

Jahudo wrote:Sheesh, zwets. VOTE

It's too early to vote.

zwetschenwasser · Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:45 pm

dramonic wrote:Problem is, this game hasn't been giving me a lot of conclusive stuff <<

zwetschenwasser · Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:43 am

Jahudo, dramonic can't come up with something conclusive after 54 freaking pages?

zwetschenwasser · Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:44 am

Er... 52?

zwetschenwasser · Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:20 am

Did he say that? NO

zwetschenwasser · Sat Jun 27, 2009 10:54 am

EXACTLY

zwetschenwasser · Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:11 pm

I expressed why I changed both of those opinions, I think.

zwetschenwasser · Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:49 pm

BM seems apathetic, not scummy.

zwetschenwasser · Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:36 am

Doesn't anybody read V/LA notes anymore?

zwetschenwasser · Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:02 am

Nixe avaxar.

zwetschenwasser · Sat Jul 11, 2009 3:25 am

DizzyIzzyB13 wrote:
Jahudo wrote:Mod's been gone for two weeks. Alot of the players just aren't playing. Is this game going to be abandoned?

We don't know if Zwety's play will be a liability down the road, even if he isn't NK'ed. Maybe he is cleared by a PR or maybe he lynches scum. Alot of things can happen, so I don't see why lynching based on playstyle is a good tactic now or ever. His contribution does not really hinder the game more than any of the lurkers here anyway.
Unless there's a very strong case against Zwet, I'm opposed to his lynch because, whiile he employs an unconventional play-style, experience says he's very, very good at finding scum.

I have some good hunches but I'm certainly not infallible.