Mafia 105 - Caught in the Crossfire (Game Over)

[Maemuki]

/hi, everyone!

[Maemuki]

I was just about to quote that in a warning to Maemuki

Why me.

Also I would prefer to forget that game thank you very much.

[Maemuki]

Vote: Roflcopter

Why can you have a roflcopter and I can't? That's just unfair!

[Maemuki]

Ugh. Does that mean I'll have to read one of SpyreX's games so I can see what's the difference between his play now and his usual-town/usual-scum play?

Niice.

*rolls eyes*

See you in a few hours then, unless you want to explain what the differences are, Vi/hiphop/Budja/etc, etc.

[Maemuki]

Not really. I just wanted to see you find him scummy is all, since that was the justification someone (Budja? Vi? Both?) gave to vote for him. But I'll give him a read on ISO and I'll talk to you later, k?

[Maemuki]

I mean

why

. Sorry for the confusion. >.<

*still reading SpyreX's posts*

[Maemuki]

What. The. Hell.

The RVS phase is over.

You seem to only see posts that attack you.

Explanation.

Now.

[Maemuki]

Then it's a thing for me to resolve, not you. AS I SAID.

Explanation.

Now.

[Maemuki]

I don't think you deserve a vote yet

What did I do?

, but please, CALM THE HELL DOWN PLEASE!!!

I'm calm. You aren't. Learn the difference.

SpyreX's wagon ended the RVS. Not hiphop. The end.

[Maemuki]

...you want the RVS? Weird.

So, why did you just say that you didn't think that I deserved the vote?

[Maemuki]

a. So why mention it?

b. The life of a student is difficult, you know? (Especially when that student has hundreds of assignments to do. Not fun.)

c. Eeh, agreed. That doesn't mean you have to be on it all game. Why do you want a neverending RVS? RVS is only to start discussion anyway.

[Maemuki]

a. *facepalm*

c. But it isn't real discussion, is it? No, it isn't.

What are your thoughts about the SpyreX wagon? Would you join it?

[Maemuki]

Even if he's at, like, L-6?

And what do you think about SpyreX?

[Maemuki]

elvis_knits:

only one game post at this time, voting vi for a dodgy reason. keeping an eye on her.

Why single out a person that only

posted once and RVS voted

when the game started yesterday and there are more people of that kind?

[Maemuki]

e_k's vote wasn't random. check it again and come back to me.

Mmmm...yes it is. It may not sound like it, but it is. My question stands.

@ hiphop

I'm kinda mehish. Nobody stated their reasons (execpt for gut and meta. correct me if I'm wrong) - and people jumped on the bandwagon for....uh...jumping on the bandwagon. That makes no sense to me. So, I have absolutely no freaking idea of what's going on. I don't see SpyreX's actions as scummy. You only see this as an information bandwagon after all, don't you?

[Maemuki]

Good point.

*waits for sigma to answer*

[Maemuki]

Good point.

No, I am serious, what do you see it as?

Oh sorry.

Information bandwagon, sure.

But there's a drawback.
It's a easy way to make people

look

like they're participating, by voting, but they aren't actually scumhunting.

But...if this will end up informative or not...well, it depends on SpyreX, I guess.

Resuming, I think it gives us information to work with, but it's an easy cover-up for scum. Especially if SpyreX is town.

[Maemuki]

for the record i probably wouldn't have just blindly followed vi if i didn't agree with this assessment.

Oh, ok. That explains it, I guess.

guys maemuki is town

I'm pretty sure I agree with this.

Why?

[Maemuki]

Vote Count, Day 1

hiphop ( 0 )
Budja ( 1 ) SpyreX
charter ( 0 )
ConfidAnon ( 3 ) crypto - sigma - CSL
crypto ( 0 )
CSL ( 0 )
elvis_knits ( 0 )
Energetic Penguin ( 0 )
hitogoroshi ( 0 )
Hoopla ( 2 ) popsofctown - Energetic Penguin
Idiotking ( 0 )
imaginality ( 0 )
Infinis ( 0 )
Juls ( 0 )
Maemuki ( 0 )
Pads ( 0 )
popsofctown ( 1 ) - charter
Psychologic ( 0 )
RayFrost ( 0 )
RedCoyote ( 0 )
roflcopter ( 2 ) hitogoroshi - maemuki
sigma ( 3 ) Sotty7 - infinis - RedCoyote
Sotty7 ( 0 )
SpyreX ( 8 ) Pads - Vi - RayFrost - Budja - hiphop - Hoopla - roflcopter - ConfidAnon
Vi ( 1 ) - elvis_knits
Unvote ( 4 ) - Idiotking - Juls - imaginality - Psychologic
Total Votes ( 25 )

With 25 alive, 13 needed to reach a majority.
Deadline is at December 1st, 11am EST

@maemuki, hitogoroshi: I disagree. If bob directs a slightly accusatory question at bill, and then votes bill, it looks like a non-random vote. If you look at e_k's statement, it looks like she's implying feelings to vi ('it is not wild and crazy' implies that vi stated as such) that weren't there, IMO. So, I read it as a non-random vote for a dodgy reason, which is why I wrote my note in the first place.

?? I don't understand what you mean.

My guess it's that e_k decided to use the fact that Vi

never saw the "I don't know you I vote you" method before

as her random vote. But each to his own. That's something that e_k has to answer, not me.

[Maemuki]

I feel obligated to believe this, but isn't it a bit early to be spitting out stuff such as "confirmed town"?

You seem uneasy around people thinking I'm town. Why? Would you be like this if they called me scum? Why did you put "confirmed" into rofl's mouth?

@ Roflcopter, Vi, why am I town?

[Maemuki]

ConfidAnon seems like a good lynch target, so I'm going to

Vote: ConfidAnon

Why, or is it just to go with the flow?

Comments/Questions/Complaints/Alerts of aliens?

AN ALIEN (named question) IS RIGHT ABOVE YOU!

[Maemuki]

Thought he implied "Confirmed town", but I guess he didn't.

He did? Where? It's D1! Even a cop wouldn't get results. So, no cop = no confirmed townie. You should know this!...for...obvious reasons.

maemuki, 90% gut read, 10% little things i just don't think scum would have done in the situation. i'm not going to give the scum a roadmap for making me think they're town though, so i'll be leaving it at that.

*nods* I understand.

[Maemuki]

@ Mae: Unless he's scum.

It would be quite a stupid tactic. Imagine scum were on 3-p lylo.

Scum never suspected me. But, on lylo, they vote for me (me L-1). The other player points that out (scum L-1), I hammer scum for switching sides so quickly. (scum lynched, town win.)

And this is only one scenario.

@ Vi, you're kidding me? I didn't? Gosh, I'm sorry! I'll be writing it right now then!

[Maemuki]

...as I said,

we are out of the RVS.

Now let me write my view on SpyreX, kthx. You need to write your view on SpyreX too, if I'm not wrong.

[Maemuki]

Vote Count, Day 1

hiphop ( 0 )
Budja ( 1 ) SpyreX
charter ( 0 )
ConfidAnon ( 3 ) crypto - sigma - CSL
crypto ( 0 )
CSL ( 0 )
elvis_knits ( 0 )
Energetic Penguin ( 0 )
hitogoroshi ( 0 )
Hoopla ( 2 ) popsofctown - Energetic Penguin
Idiotking ( 0 )
imaginality ( 0 )
Infinis ( 0 )
Juls ( 0 )
Maemuki ( 0 )
Pads ( 0 )
popsofctown ( 1 ) - charter
Psychologic ( 0 )
RayFrost ( 0 )
RedCoyote ( 0 )
roflcopter ( 2 ) hitogoroshi - maemuki
sigma ( 3 ) Sotty7 - infinis - RedCoyote
Sotty7 ( 0 )
SpyreX ( 8 ) Pads - Vi - RayFrost - Budja - hiphop - Hoopla - roflcopter - ConfidAnon
Vi ( 1 ) - elvis_knits
Unvote ( 4 ) - Idiotking - Juls - imaginality - Psychologic
Total Votes ( 25 )

With 25 alive, 13 needed to reach a majority.
Deadline is at December 1st, 11am EST

actually, csl, could you link me to any games where you are lynched as town, too?

*coughalmostallofthemcough*

Sorry it had to be done! But, from memory...

Newbie 830, Newbie 824, Newbie 806, Rabbit Doubt Mafia (I don't remember the number), and Open...something. Sotty moderated the game though.

[Maemuki]

Let me see, let me see~

OMGUS on Budja. What is your reason for voting Budja, and you would vote for him on the current circunstances, or would you vote for somebody else, SpyreX?

Mmmm...something strikes me as weird. It's...like he's

afraid

of being lynched. He doesn't want to die. But he doesn't give any reasons on why we shouldn't lynch him.

Very well, why shouldn't we lynch you SpyreX?

@ ConfidAnon, I see the OMGUS, but I see your deflection as well. I mean, instead of answering to Rofl's accusation, you accuse other person. Why?

[Maemuki]

Thanks, but Vi did it. <3 Vi.

Also he's refering to the fact that he FoS'ed you and you voted for him after.

[Maemuki]

Still, you could have mentioned it. And said that that arguement would be circular and a shouting competion...do get what I mean?

That's still scummy, ignoring posts against you. If you had said what you said now, it wouldn't be scummy. But you didn't, therefore scummy. But not scummy enough.

Still, why did you accuse other person instead of saying what you said on 237?

[Maemuki]

@ Mae: Would you mind telling us why your vote is still on roflcopter?

Mmmm, no. It's because I always forget my RVS votes.

Unvote: Roflcopter

[Maemuki]

Vote Count, Day 1

hiphop ( 0 )
Budja ( 1 ) SpyreX
charter ( 0 )
ConfidAnon ( 2 ) - sigma - CSL
crypto ( 0 )
CSL ( 0 )
elvis_knits ( 0 )
Energetic Penguin ( 0 )
hitogoroshi ( 0 )
Hoopla ( 2 ) popsofctown - Energetic Penguin
Idiotking ( 0 )
imaginality ( 0 )
Infinis ( 0 )
Juls ( 0 )
Maemuki ( 1 ) - crypto
Pads ( 0 )
popsofctown ( 1 ) - charter
Psychologic ( 0 )
RayFrost ( 0 )
RedCoyote ( 0 )
roflcopter ( 2 ) hitogoroshi
sigma ( 3 ) Sotty7 - infinis - RedCoyote
Sotty7 ( 0 )
SpyreX ( 8 ) Pads - Vi - RayFrost - Budja - hiphop - Hoopla - roflcopter - ConfidAnon
Vi ( 1 ) - elvis_knits
Unvote ( 4 ) - Idiotking - Juls - imaginality - Psychologic
Total Votes ( 25 )

With 25 alive, 13 needed to reach a majority.
Deadline is at December 1st, 11am EST

Unvote. Vote: Maemuki.

One of {Maemuki, Sotty7} needs a non-purple avatar.

I read this as a random vote then, yes?

But...seeing as you want to...

@ Vii~ Can I have a new avatar pleeeease? (+ points if it has an ordinary magician on it...[/hint] I'll switch between them after the game is over)

On the flipside Mam is solid

Mam?

I'm not going to share.

Pretty please with cherries on top?

[Maemuki]

I thought so. So why did you vote for me?

[Maemuki]

My ConfidAnon vote was random. I think Maemuki is more scummy.

Why?

@ Vi,
*points at 250*

[Maemuki]

Why?

A hunch?

What activated that hunch?

[Maemuki]

Mae, Vi just made an avatar for you. Let's force Sotty to change instead.

Vi made Sotty's too if I'm not mistaken.

[Maemuki]

Why?

A hunch?

What activated that hunch?

Why are you so eager to fend me off?

BECAUSE I WANT TO KNOW, ISN'T IT? [/capslock]

Mae, Vi just made an avatar for you. Let's force Sotty to change instead.

Vi made Sotty's too if I'm not mistaken.

/suicide

/facepalm

[Maemuki]

What if I refused to tell you what "activated" it?

You aren't going to lynch a person if you don't post reasons, mah boi.

[Maemuki]

There hasn't been enough discussion yet. I'm talking about my vote, not my ostensible eagerness to lynch you.

If you're not interested on lynching me...why are you voting me on the first place?

[Maemuki]

Vote Count, Day 1

hiphop ( 0 )
Budja ( 1 ) SpyreX
charter ( 0 )
ConfidAnon ( 2 ) - sigma - CSL
crypto ( 0 )
CSL ( 0 )
elvis_knits ( 0 )
Energetic Penguin ( 0 )
hitogoroshi ( 0 )
Hoopla ( 2 ) popsofctown - Energetic Penguin
Idiotking ( 0 )
imaginality ( 0 )
Infinis ( 0 )
Juls ( 0 )
Maemuki ( 1 ) - crypto
Pads ( 0 )
popsofctown ( 1 ) - charter
Psychologic ( 0 )
RayFrost ( 0 )
RedCoyote ( 0 )
roflcopter ( 2 ) hitogoroshi
sigma ( 3 ) Sotty7 - infinis - RedCoyote
Sotty7 ( 0 )
SpyreX ( 8 ) Pads - Vi - RayFrost - Budja - hiphop - Hoopla - roflcopter - ConfidAnon
Vi ( 1 ) - elvis_knits
Unvote ( 4 ) - Idiotking - Juls - imaginality - Psychologic
Total Votes ( 25 )

With 25 alive, 13 needed to reach a majority.
Deadline is at December 1st, 11am EST

@Maemuki: I'll see what I can do. (I didn't know you liked that series.)

mah boi.

Now you do.

Because I think you're scum. Thinking you're scum ≠ wanting to lynch you.

If you think somebody's scum, why wouldn't you lynch them?

[Maemuki]

you're technically playing against your (assuming you're town) win condition, crypto.

So. Why aren't you willing to lynch me? Not enough discussion? Hehe. Wagons cause discussion after all, don't they? So, why are you confusing me? Why? Why are you voting for me? Gut? What about all of what happened before? Apparently, that never happened did it?

Now I can shut my mouth. Mae out.

[Maemuki]

No, I'm not. Not wanting to end the day prematurely is not playing against the town's win condition. Sorry. Nice try.

Ok, maybe not. But - not explaining your votes is. So, why are you waiting for another person to post before you post your case on me?

You used the term "lynch," not "wagon." I have responded accordingly. I love how you're accusing me of confusing you, though. That's rich.

So you would be willing to wagon me, but not to lynch me. Interesting. Am I getting it wrong?

I don't get it. Can you use proper English instead of spewing (rhetorical) questions?

Seeing as it's 9 pm here, no. Live with it.

[Maemuki]

@ 296, because I didn't, so? I said it could be informative, but didn't feel the need to vote. I think 7 votes is enough, don't you think?

6

Come on! I can't even use italics anymore? What a disgrace.

19

Way to go. *rolls eyes* If I'm going to be read as town, I want to know why. If I'm going to be read as scum, I want to know why. You're just throwing stuff into the air, you know? It isn't working.

25

If I don't agree with the majority I'm scum? Nice! Now seriously. You didn't vote for SpyreX either. You didn't give a read on him either. Hypocrisy to the maximum,! it seems. *shakes head* I'm not even going to say more.

So you're pretty much attacking my memory skills, I thought that I gave the read. And the flip-flopping, well, opinions change. I think you didn't vote for SpyreX, because you don't want to look bad. You just gave a one-line neutral read and end of story. Next!

Also the correct answer is d:

(d) Has memory problems and had to reread the thread about 5 times to spot something scummy and had to reread it 5 more times to post it..

[Maemuki]

@ Pads, there's a first time for everything. I wouldn't be as desconcerted if his vote wasn't incredibly hypocritical. But it is, so I'm desconcerted. I was desconcerted because he put up no reasons. When he did, the reasons made no sense and culminated on the fact that I forgot to give my SpyreX opinion, when he made the awesome opinion of a one-liner. If that isn't hypocritical, I don't know what is.

Why do you dislike Vi's 213? Why are you discontended with hiphop? Why do you think rofl, e_k, and so on to be town/scum?

Her current play contradicts that experience.

Do you take any conclusions of that?

@ RF, I was on the odd-night doctor game, but I replaced out because I thought that the game was boring.

I was scum on one game with CSL - Newbie 830. He was lynched D1 though. (No, I wasn't on his wagon if you want to know.)

[Maemuki]

@ Sotty, I'm breaking my meta on this game. I'm starting to suspect that I have more posts on this game than on some of my completed games.

Oh for god's sakes crypto! I never said I suspected him.

Please see the world from my point of view for a few minutes.

I know that townies get frustraded if they're lynched. I just wanted to know the answer to my question is all.

But - I never said

I

suspected SpyreX. I made that post to understand the SpyreX wagon - not to actually post on it. My read on SpyreX, is, as I said, neutral. If that wasn't clear to you - *shrugs* I don't know.

In my experience, that's, um ... not how it works.

That doesn't mean it couldn't be the case here. Why do you think it is?

This is mostly because Maemuki didn't vote SpyreX or attempt to make a convincing case.

If I didn't vote him, would I really need to make a case?

pretty much anyone who posted on pages 7-10 is guilty of this from what I can tell.

Sorry!

@ crypto, everything's very pretty. But did you read the thread? What do you think about e_k's accusations against you? Instead of bringing up games where "something like this" supposedly happened, why aren't you defending yourself?

(Crypto, you're going to attack me for the above, aren't you?
.
.
.
You know what? Don't answer.)

[Maemuki]

Mae, I think those questions (post 348, two above me) are a little unfair in terms of information density/length. You should try to make your questions to crypto as long as the responses you expect (e.g, put supporting examples with your question if you want supporting examples in his answer.) This is doubly true with the word count limit - we should try to respect the other players here.

Eeh, I guess so. I still want to see what he says about what e_k said. It doesn't even need to answer my questions - I just want to see what he thinks. It's a bit weird for someone to ignore people that suspect him, don't you think? (He used about 560 words on his post, after the mod changed the rules. He could at least mention it, could he not? You can do quite a lot with 180 words, I think.)

In that one post, you asked SpyreX questions. Were you satisfied with his answers? How?

As far as I know, he didn't answer them. I'm still waiting.

[Maemuki]

@ Infinis, why is crypto's case very good?

(Grr. I hate when people just don't give the reason.)

[Maemuki]

And why did you buy Crypto's case and completely drop the sigma case?

(Don't answer with "I find you scummier". Seriously. I know that you find me scummier - why would you vote me otherwise?)

[Maemuki]

@ Infinis, not a suitable answer - I understand crypto's case (even if it is hypocritical and he never listens to me, but hey), but why are you supporting it? You have 1 post to do it. GO.

@ imaginality, same as above. But worse. You're just copying the majority. 1 post to explain why, GO. Gut is not enough of a reason when we have 20 pages.

@ crypto, you shouldn't lynch me because I'm trying to be useful. I answered my own question. Now, are you going to give me a real case or are you going to throw more hypocrisy? (You never answered to my questions either, you know?)

@ hiphop. I believe I have. But let me explain. The wagon is informative - but L-7 was enough on my eyes. Problem solved. What do you think about imaginality?

@ 353, and I'm not the one with most votes at all right now. No, no, no way. If you suspect Vi as well, why to vote for me just because I have more votes?

@ 463, hey!

@ 471, you know, I agree with crypto for once. I assume he is just jumping on the most popular bandwagon/s. I'm waiting for his post.

This seems to me like scum fishing for a power role.

Why do you think so?

More when I have time.

(And, by the way, Pads, I believe I explained that I don't think that the OMGUS was that scummy, considering the number of people voting him. If I didn't, I meant to.)

[Maemuki]

You forgot Portuguese crypto. And how do you know that the mod is not making stuff up?

I'll catch up on about 5 minutes.

[Maemuki]

After this fiasco I'd be down with an elvis lynch as well as Budja. Semantics are sweeetttt.

Explain please?

[Maemuki]

@ Vi, why are you randomly jumping on all wagons?

@ Infinis, say your suspcions of me without going to crypto's posts. Three two one go.

@ crypto, just because they're not yours doesn't mean they're stupid. Why do you think they are?

@ Everyone who is making excuses to cover crypto: why are you making excuses?

[Maemuki]

And now to reread Day 1. *headdesk*

Vote: elvis_knits

(L-10)
crypto's death strengthens this read.

Why do you think so?

[Maemuki]

Vi, why e_k over me for example? We all know crypto suspected me waaaay more. Also that could be scum framing e_k.

Right now? You. Wishy-washy wagon jumping with poor reasons. Do I even need to explain?

[Maemuki]

@Maemuki: Please do. I'd love to see an opinion you didn't steal from someone else.

*claps hands* With this, I assume you have no comeback, correct? Correct.

Also, why so desperate to jump in front of e_knits? And where did crypto suspect you "waaaay more"?

I'm not desperate, I'm just saying that that logic of yours has some serious flaws. I was just pointing them out. She could have been framed, that's all.

*raises eyebrow* Read D1 and come and talk to me. Crypto was on my back on pretty much the whole day.

[Maemuki]

And again, jumping in front of e_knits is very much against your usual approach to this game (asking people lots of questions).

Well, mind to refresh my memory then? When did you call e_k scummy yesterday? So I can see what your reasons were. Aside from being on crypto's wagon of course.

I have no idea how you confused "Please elaborate" with "Yes Maemuki you're absolutely correct".

Because you didn't make an effort to deny it. That's why.

[Maemuki]

I had some busy days, sorry.

But pretty much everybody's case is "what they said" unless I'm wrong. And the fact that I haven't posted since Sunday. I skimmed the thread. Maybe if I reread it with details it will be clearer.

@ Vi/Sotty, I suspected Vi at first...but...now I'm not sure. She seems to scumhunt (or at least I'm willing to be confused by it for now), but I don't really know. I know I promised a reread - but as I said, I had some busy days.

And, if I don't post much this week and the next (assuming I live that much), I'm studying. You have been warned.

[Maemuki]

Oh. My. God. How did I miss this?

@ RedCoyote, I'm inclined to believe Vi on the fact that you're scum. But my reasons are not meta.

Maemuki - Despite posting much too frequently, seemingly everytime I noticed something fishy, sure enough, Mae had a post not long afterwards calling it out.

and the general uneasy vibe I got from her D1

Orly. What. Did you attack me on D1, say that you got uneasy vibes from me? Did you even say that I was undecided on the first place?

Answer this. Now.

---

Zakeri, sigma...is the bandwagon party good?

I don't have problems with Rofl and Vi. And Infinis because he's voting for me since yesterday. But he (Infinis) needs to post more. [/hypocrisy] I can't read charter.

[Maemuki]

I cannot emphasize enough that maemuki's game-long defense of e_k is an order of magnitude more scummy than anything else I've seen in my short career of forum mafia.

Notice that she didn't address this chainsaw defending at all in her most recent post. The town needs to lynch her immediately. This lynch has the added benefit of giving us better reads on vi, charter, pads and a number of others who have advocated for her lynch.

Including you. I defended e_k because I didn't see why she was scummy.

And no, I don't want to be lynched (but I'm not going to be heard anyway). Not everyone on my wagon can be scum.

But if I get lynched before I can post, be careful with people that don't add anything to their reasons to lynch me. Most likely scum hopping on a townie bandwagon. Oh - and people who say that I'm scummy but never voted for me until the bandwagon formed.

I made a mistake to believe e_k. Oh well. Another mislynch to add to my collection I guess.

[Maemuki]

Because that power wagon reeked of the style that scum will jump all over? Yea.

Are you being ironic or is it just my imagination?

As for the reads well every lynch is going to be informative. That's not gonna make me all giddy.

Well, that's the only useful thing that my lynch is going to make anyway.

I would defend myself, but my fate is sealed. My only hope is to out as many scum as possible with my lynch (coughrccough)

[Maemuki]

If you're gonna just throw up your hands I sure as hell will be.

Throw up my hands? Never. Be lynched? Highly likely.

What? I'm not voting for you (if that is the implied irony).

Oh. Sorry.

I love how many people I get to be scum with

!?!

[Maemuki]

Vote Count, Day 2

hiphop ( 1 ) - Xylthixlm
shotty to the body ( 0 )
charter ( 0 )
Energetic Penguin ( 0 )
hitogoroshi ( 1 ) - RayFrost
Idiotking ( 0 )
Infinis ( 0 )
Xylthixlm ( 0 )
Maemuki ( 7 ) - Infinis - Vi - roflcopter - charter - Zakeri - RedCoyote - sigma
Pads ( 1 ) - SpyreX
popsofctown ( 0 )
Zakeri ( 0 )
RayFrost ( 1 ) - Idiotking
RedCoyote ( 1 ) - hiphop
roflcopter ( 0 )
sigma ( 2 ) - shotty to the body - sotty7
Sotty7 ( 0 )
SpyreX ( 0 )
Vi ( 0 )
Unvote ( 5 ) - Energetic Penguin - Maemuki - popsofctown - Pads - hitogoroshi
Total Votes ( 19 )

With 19 alive, 10 needed to reach a majority.
Deadline is at December 12th, 10am EST

Good lord I didn't realize you were at 7. Yea.

Exactly, and that wagon was formed so quickly and with so many oppurtunistic people it's not even funny.

Zakeri and a bunch of other people (coughrccough) are enjoying the bandwagon party, I guess.

[Maemuki]

Defending themselves resolutely is. Explain, thoroughly, your thought process in defending e_k. Be exhaustive. Give us plenty of scum and town reads.

Sure. I defended e_k because I thought that the case against her was not very good - oh and gut. Guess my gut sucks. I thought that the e_k case was pretty much "I attacked a town player and that player died and he saw me as scum so I am scum"...and I was mistaken. My biggest mistake was drinking the wine instead of the lemonade.

RC is pretty much scum. Look at his D1 ISO. Yes, I was the most town on his eyes, I was never undecided - but he jumped on the bandwagon. Very quickly. I still want to know why.

Infinis should give thoughts on my bandwagon asap. He wanted a wagon he got one and I suggest that you question him heavily tomorrow. He is ignoring pretty much everything. Including e_k. Actually...you should question him very heavily tommorrow.

RF is being less useful and active than usual. He also ignored e_k a lot - and voted hitogoroshi without having an opinion on e_k. RF, where is your activity now?

Vi...oh Vi. I don't really know, to be honest.

Pads. Pads. Oh Pads. I really need to analyse this one.

pops is following along FoS'ing me. Btw, if you think Vi is scummy why aren't you voting for her?

More when I've seen the players on iso.

[Maemuki]

Maemuki's list gave five neutral reads and one scum read there.

2 scum reads, 1 neutral-scummy and 3 neutral to be exact.

[Maemuki]

Not that I have any interest in debating this further

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Infinis;

I'll reread tomorrow looking at EP EK

He never said anything about e_k did he? He never said anything about imaginality, come to think of it. But then again, he said almost nothing about the game. Guess he was too busy tunnel-visioning sigma and me and mislynching CSL. Oh and hypocrisy, he promised a reread. Where is that reread? Infinis, explain.

Zakeri;

post some game related content. Now. You had an entire night to reread. Why are you just jumping on bandwagons and not giving other reads? Why are you ignoring the fact that I'm not the only player on this game? I mean - 3 days are enough to at least skim the thread.

Aside from me who do you think is scummy?

I'll return to this tomorrow. Even if I'm lynched.

On non-game related news.

@ 1055,

guilty. I actually did it because I lost a bet, but what can I say, I got used to it. >.<

[Maemuki]

Utterly crappy. I'm holding out hope for a better one. If it doesn't appear soon I'm going to switch my vote.

I wouldn't hold my breath. Seriously. I hate to be defeatist - but this is what you're going to get.

I'm not throwing my hands up - I'm just warning you guys.

[Maemuki]

L-1, I'm Vanilla.

Whatever. I'll talk to you tomorrow.

[Maemuki]

Vote Count, Day 2

hiphop ( 0 )
shotty to the body ( 0 )
charter ( 0 )
Energetic Penguin ( 0 )
hitogoroshi ( 1 ) - RayFrost
Idiotking ( 0 )
Infinis ( 0 )
Xylthixlm ( 0 )

Maemuki ( 10 ) - Infinis - Vi - roflcopter - charter - Zakeri - RedCoyote - sigma - Xylthixlm - SpyreX - popsofctown

Pads ( 0 )
popsofctown ( 0 )
Zakeri ( 0 )
RayFrost ( 1 ) - Idiotking
RedCoyote ( 1 ) - hiphop
roflcopter ( 0 )
sigma ( 2 ) - shotty to the body - sotty7
Sotty7 ( 0 )
SpyreX ( 0 )
Vi ( 0 )
Unvote ( 4 ) - Energetic Penguin - Maemuki - Pads - hitogoroshi
Total Votes ( 19 )

With 19 alive, 10 needed to reach a majority.
Deadline is at December 12th, 10am EST

I would try sigma, I really would (Nobody cares if I use AtE now anymore) but

Now it isn't worth it to defend myself.

I just wanted to know your reasons, that's all.

If you still care, RC and Infinis are the scummiest people here.

It's a shame I became a VI on the last two pages - but whatever. I did my best but my best wasn't enough.

Ciao!

[Maemuki]

ITT, maemuki explains how the only pro-town thing available to a player is defending oneself.

I can't defend myself, I thought that most people here (that played with me before) knew that already. That's the part I find the hardest about playing Mafia.

If Infinis/RC don't have a reasonable excuse by tomorrow, they should be suspected - and highly suspected. If they have one on the next 24 hours, even better!

Budja please?

You mean Shotty? You said that he was reasonably pro-town before.

Ok, now I can die.

[Maemuki]

I like the fact that I managed to stick myself (and my role and my alignment) into a small 10%.

Have fun!

[Maemuki]

Have you noticed that you're still acting as antitown as possible even after you're lynched?

I don't want to shut up but I don't really know how to be useful either.

So, yes. What's the chance of anybody removing their votes now? At least let me die now so I won't stay until endgame and be mislynched then. And so I won't be tunnel-visioned. So you can catch scum, ok?

Is there anything you want to know? If there isn't you can just say it now, it saves me a lot of trouble.

[Maemuki]

RC, you never said that. You never said I made you uneasy. Why? (It wasn't relevant is not an answer.)

And somebody already brought up the fact that I switched between agressive and passive quickly.

[Maemuki]

I predicted the future.

Not like it was hard though.