Mini 1012: Mafia In Soraville (Game Over!)

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/confirm

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Nvay, Friend, and ready2rock are guaranteed town

MvK is guaranteed scum -

Vote: ManfredVonKarma

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I can't either, Pie. Goddamn that Fugi.

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Oh, by Nvay I meant TL. And I retract the town statement, because I thought it was Nvay. He's neutral.

DH is town too, Pie. Your scumhunting is off this game.

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Yes, I can.

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Not right now.

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unvote, vote: DemonHybrid

Yep, he's scum. He failed the reaction test.

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The reaction test was on you DH.

I know nothing about Pie's alignment or role.

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awww, Pie is scum this game.

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EBWOP: I'm more sure of Pie than DH, so...

unvote, Vote: InflatablePie

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Yeah, Pie is definitely scum. Those reactions to the forming bandwagon were scummy as hell.

You're welcome for catching it town.

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Twomz subtle defense of Pie noted when Pie flips scum.

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EBWOP: OH, Pie lying about my meta noted also. He's definitely scum.

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@TL - you realize claiming isn't all that's expected of a defense?

r2r's subtle defense of Pie noted when Pie flips scum.

@Twomz - yes.

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esurio's not-so-subtle defense of Pie noted when Pie flips scum.

Also,
>implying scum can't contribute original thoughts or give opinions on other players.
>my face

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If we're going to assume that every scum player is playing a perfect game, though, we may as well stop playing. Scum slip up. Until someone does something that makes more sense for scum than it does for town, I am going to stick that person into my "neutral" or "town" box. IP is currently in my "town" box, though that could change. Of

course

scum want to look pro-town, but they have to strike a balance between looking pro-town and thwarting their likelihood of winning, and IP is imo far enough to one side of that spectrum that I don't think he's scum.

>implying Pie isn't good enough to play a very good scum game (He's got quite a few games under his belt and plays a very good scum game. Thankfully I caught him for you guys.)

Seriously, Pie giving reads and contributing new thoughts is NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT a town-tell. Hell, it's not a town tell for anyone. It's helpful, sure, but you're seriously saying that scum can't at least pretend to be helpful and give reads and such? I'm seriously thinking you should stop playing mafia if:
1) You don't always assume the worst case (assume scum are not slipping)
2) You think someone who plays pro-town is town
3) You think looking pro-town twarts scum's chance to win

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@DH - Naw, TL is town. Pretty misguided, but town.

Pie is scum, however. Twmoz is scum with him. Possibly r2r with them, but I'd have to look more into that. I think esurio is a misguided townie. I cannot get a read off of DH anymore.

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Well, he's L-2. We can wait for a claim or just go for it with the information we have.

EBWOP: What is it with everyone and claims? That's not the only form of defense. I don't care if Pie claims doc or cop . He's still scum.

Heh, emoticons.

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r2r's second subtle defense of Pie (re)noted.

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I'd like to note here that Fugi suspects Twomz/r2r (finding esurio misguided) for "defending" me/being opposed to my lynch, but does not comment on Kov or MvK at all. Kov in particular stands out to me, because he's used odd logic when talking about how he's opposed to my lynch, yet Fugi hasn't commented on him at all.

Because I found their "defenses" of you or their reasons not to vote adequate. Not much more needs to be said about that.

@Pie - I'd like a top 3-5 suspect list.

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Fugitive simply for having a different attitude this game, to be honest. Definitely not high up on my scumlist, but I'm keeping an eye out.

Also, lolmeta.

If you want to do the meta dance, then we can do the meta dance, just so I can put you in your place regarding meta. In my experience with Fugitive (skimming games that he's been in and playing with him), short, sarcastic and blunt responses means he has nothing to defend. He's been town in the games that I've seen when he's done this. When he posts very long, helpful, involved responses, he's been scum. Please correct me if I'm wrong, Fugitive.

This means ABSOLUTELY nothing regarding this game. He's neutral-town to me, emphasis on the neutral. Past games should mean -nothing-, if very little (like extremely obvious confirmed scum tells).

More people need to vote Pie. I hate hate hate hate hate your Kov suspicion because it feels like I'm looking into a mirror.

Pretty much spot on. The fact that Pie has used meta against me as a reason for suspicion, placing me in this top 5 scum candidates should probably qualify for a policy lynch right there. Policy aside, he's likely scum, so he needs to be noosed up now.

Friend's reads are pretty much correct. Though I would change the placement of 3 people.

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DemonHybrid, TheLonging, and Fugitive

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no no, That's not where I would move them.

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inb4IdieN1becauseI'moneveryone'stownlist

Stop making lists. It's not a town or scum-tell, but it gives scum ideas.

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TL is probably town. I'll call him neutral-town for now, but probably just a solid townie.

IP needs to be lynched faster.

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Pie, I tunnel because you're scum. We both know it.

Once you're lynched I can focus on your buddies, which I've called out anyway.

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Fugi: Pretend that I'm not in this game for just one post (ex. don't use "connections" to me as reasoning). Who are your other top suspects?

No.

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Oh, and DH is probably town so stop wasting time and energy on him.

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Oh, and DH is probably town so stop wasting time and energy on him.

Stop messing up my town read on you

I don't care what your read on me is. Read me as scum all you want if that's what you so desire.

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I'm back, I don't feel like reading all this shit now.

1 question though: Why is Pie still breathing?

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Because people want to lynch me or DH.

So people want a lynch of townies?

Stop failing please.

I still have yet to read.

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I support no lynch except a Pie lynch.

I believe TL's claim, and have been calling him town from the start.

I also support a Tracker CC if there is a real one and he is fake-claiming.

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Fugitive why is Kov town?

When did I say this nonsense?

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I support no lynch except a Pie lynch.

I believe TL's claim, and have been calling him town from the start.

I also support a Tracker CC if there is a real one and he is fake-claiming.

I believe that you're town, but Pie has a point; you have a habit of tunneling him without a clear case. Humor him.

He's scum. Case closed.

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You're assuming that since I said I only support a Pie lynch that I have town reads on

everyone else

? Because that's what you seem to be saying that I am implying by saying that I only support a Pie lynch.

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Well, it's like this.

I have scum reads, town reads, and neutral reads. Each read has it's own strength. Pie is a scum read. It is a strong scum read. All other scum reads aren't particularly strong. Thus, at the moment I only support a single lynch. Usually I don't support more than two lynches at any given time, never more than 3. At the moment in this game, I'm only in support of one.

I have a neutral read on Kov if you're curious.

PreEdit: Basically what TL said.

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I, admittedly, do need to re-read the thread since my absence, but as of now I'm not convinced of Kovscum from cases I've seen presented.

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Pie is scum.

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unvote
Vote: InflatablePie

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unvote
Vote: InflatablePie

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Pie is scum.

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unvote, vote: Twomz

If he flips scum Pie is 100% scum. Not that Pie isn't 100% scum already.

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Twomz was the first to subtly defend Pie when the wagon started.

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Fugitive can only think that Pie or Twomz is scum. I don't know, I guess soras decided to implement a post restriction to him

lol @ u

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So, you aren't willing to go indepth to create a valid case on me, in other words.

This week on "inside the mafia play book" we have special guest DemonHybrid, who will explain to our viewers how to poison the well

without looking scummy and anxious

to discredit a vote from a townie.

Town vs. town.

^ I'll just leave that there.

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You weren't acknowledging me, Pie? Who knew.

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Also, Jack pretty much just blew Pie right after Pie gave a minor defense of him and some accusations toward DH.

Noted.

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DH is completely right. Jack is avoiding his question completely.

Answer it now please.

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*Fugitive

yawns

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Fugi if you had to change your vote who would you change it to? I ask this because I'll probably end up voting DH, and I'm guessing Friend will vote kov, which still leaves it at a tie and you'd be alone on the Twomz wagon.

Out of those 2? kov.

But what will happen is I won't vote for either because I don't feel like lynching a townie.

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take your votes off of DH right now you failure and lynch scum. I'm getting fed up with this nonsense. He's clearly town.

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No, he's not. It's pretty damn obvious too. If he flips scum I'll eat a teabag.

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Can someone please explain to me why Parama is using Fugitive's account this game?

Stop comparing me to Parama. I'm nothing like him.

If DH is going to get lynched then I'm claiming.

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unvote now, bitches.

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My role isn't.

oritz is scummier by the second.

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OMGUSFoS: Pie

owait, no, that's just him OMGUSing me.

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@DH - don't bother raging. Pie is pretty much confirmed scum.

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R2R IS FRUSTRATED BY MY PLAY AND CAN'T SEEM TO POST ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE. I'M GETTING SCUM READS FROM HIM. HE'S NOT ACTING HIS USUALLY TOWN SELF. LOLMETA.

FOS: READY2ROCK

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I said I founhd it frustrating, I never said I found it scummy.

I know what you said. I never claimed you said it was scummy. I find it scummy how you're acting though.

Vote: Deadline Extension

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Someone tell me why I extended that? I assume we're giving everyone time to unvote DH and vote for Twomz or Pie.

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Holy hell oritz is so maffy. I cannot decide between him, Twomz, and Pie. I think I've found the scum-team anyway. I'm up for a lynch of any of the three.

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Thank you scum. This game was giving me an aneurysm.