Mini 1211: Murder in Sicily [Over]

[Friend]

/confirm

[Friend]

Whiskers is scum.

[Friend]

Wagons happen for a reason.

[Friend]

Succintness is pro-town.

The reason should be pretty clear.

[Friend]

Because you're getting visibly upset over an obvious joke.

[Friend]

What a waste. You'd better be fucking kidding me.

You didn't say "You better be joking," you said "You'd better be fucking kidding me."

[Friend]

He didn't kill him.

[Friend]

VOTE WHISKERS

self-explanatory.

Iam, why do you think Whiskers' reaction was town?

[Friend]

Panacea, it's so early in the game. Why do you feel the need to be tentative with your vote?

[Friend]

Bobsnox, who do you think is scummy?

[Friend]

@Panacea: Fair enough. Your response seems quite genuine.

Whiskers, why haven't you voted me yet if you were so insistent on me being scum?

[Friend]

If I was obvscum back then, surely I'm still obvscum now?

[Friend]

he is not much scummier looking than the rest.

Who's "the rest?"

[Friend]

Whiskers, have you

scum-hunted

?

[Friend]

Friend, Substrike22, Tovarish, monk, LTP Mafia

Someone on this wagon is scum. I think it's monk or LTP. Leaning towards LTP.

[Friend]

I don't think scum would hop on a wagon one right after another.

[Friend]

Friend if you think someone on the Whiskers wagon is scum...that implies you think Scum are bussing? Why do you find this a likely bussing scenario? Your vote seems firmly placed at the head of a wagon headed for a mislynch most likely and that makes me go -________-.

Yeah, I think that this is a highly likely bussing scenario. Whiskers played pretty badly at the beginning of the game and attacking his actions are a perfect way for scumbuddies to distance themselves from one another.

What worries me, Scumhunter, is that you say this:

Eh, just because I don't agree with Bob's reads or the logic behind them doesn't neccesarily make him scum.

But according to the above quote there, you only think I'm scum because I'm leading Whiskers' wagon towards what YOU think is going to be a mislynch. Why the double standard?

[Friend]

Mm. Scumhunter's town.

VOTE BOBSNOX

Bob, however, is not. And I'm beginning to get a little less suspicious of Whiskers - his overreaction to the pregame daykill may have been more in his personality and less in his scumminess.

[Friend]

MusicNinja, if you're saying you want evidence for a lynch, then why in the hell are you not questioning bobsnox? Why isn't your vote even on anyone, for chrissakes?

[Friend]

VOTE MUSICNINJA

This guy's scum, no doubt.

Bobsnox is still probably scum, but we need to lynch Music today. Those last couple posts just sealed the deal.

[Friend]

Whiskers, I think you're town. Hop on the wagon. I won't judge.

And by "sealed the deal" I mean these:

For me, it's between bob and whiskers....Can't decide yet

For me, it's between bob and whiskers....Can't decide yet

How and when will you decide?

No rush man. We still have a while. I'll vote when I feel that I have enough reason too.

His thought process looks very much like "I don't know which wagon looks more suspicious to hop on to, but I don't want to actually scumhunt..."

[Friend]

It would be way more pro-town to just vote Music right now.

[Friend]

Bobs' jump was pretty damn bad. I would definitely be comfortable with a bobs lynch, but Music is my #1 choice for now.

Competing wagons, anyone?

[Friend]

Panacea, can you elaborate on your read on Whiskers? Is he panicky town, or is he scum?

[Friend]

I'm still leaning panicky town with scummish proclivities.

Then why do you have him in your scum list?

[Friend]

Panacea/MusicNinja/bobsnox.

Callin' it.

But MusicNinja is scummiest, still.

[Friend]

No, Panacea. I think MusicNinja is too scummy to write off as #1.

It's just especially curious how you disregard the two biggest wagons to vote a lurker.

What are your opinions on bobs and Music, with some details/explanation?

[Friend]

I find it rather hypocritical for you to be demanding explanations of votes on bob and Music when you've offered so few of them yourself, Friend.

I've talked about Music. If you want me to talk about bob, go ahead and say something.

[Friend]

If you guys want to meta me, this is how I play. I am heavily under the belief that conciseness is pro-town.

Anyways, it doesn't even matter that I talk about bob today; Music is the one that should be getting lynched. Bob can wait for tomorrow.

[Friend]

I've told you about my top suspect, the one who needs to be lynched today.

As for the others, they can wait.

[Friend]

Well I think he's probscum.

But Music is pretty much confscum in my mind so those are better odds.

[Friend]

Panacea, just curious, do you remember where you read that?

I wouldn't be upset about a bob hammer right now, but I still think the Music wagon has a higher chance of hitting scum.

[Friend]

Christ, bob. Why'd you claim so early?

Makes me a little suspicious about the claim, tbh. I feel like a true cop would be waiting a little longer and not be so eager.

But MusicNinja is still the better lynch for today.

[Friend]

I think Ray replaced me once, and I'm in an ongoing game with him but I don't think I mentioned it there. I might have said it somewhere in MD, though. I really do believe that - walls are the stuff of the devil (even if they may be necessary every once in a while).

[Friend]

No, no, I agree that he shouldn't be lynched today. I am just in no way clearing him as town.

[Friend]

Bobsnox, have you ever even played as cop?

What do you think of substrike's attack on Whiskers? Is it scummy? Is Whiskers scummy?

[Friend]

Music, claim.

Or if he's not showing up we should just lynch his ass anyways.

[Friend]

What's mfw?

Scumhunter, who are the eager jumpers?

[Friend]

Music's had a chance - he just hasn't shown up. That says a lot to me, honestly.

I don't believe bob's claim, to be honest. But I'm willing to let it slide for a little while.

Panacea and monk are the two next scummiest people on the list.

[Friend]

Can you guys look at Music's ISO again and please tell me that that guy's not scummier than Maruchan?

[Friend]

Maruchan v. Substrike comes off as REALLY town on town.

But the folks egging them on from the sidelines are scummy as hell (looking at you, Tovarish/monk).

Anyways, guys, here are the 5 people that we are possibly going to lynch today, in my order of preference:

MUSICNINJA
PANACEA
TOVARISH
LTP MAFIA
MONK

There's GOT to be 2 scum in that group, maybe 3 if bobsnox is telling the truth. But shit, guys, come on.

Who the fuck do you want to lynch today, and don't say anyone not on that list.

[Friend]

Maruchan!!! You know you've painted a bullseye on yourself with your whatever the hell it was, right? not to mention the whole fight with substrike wtf dude, I mean seriously! If you are town you are being anti-town and should pull your freaking head in. In fact
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Maruchan

Yo monk.

Being new and lurking are not towntells.

[Friend]

Even if you guys lynch me, I won't claim. Why? I simply don't feel like it.

This is fairly anti-town, bro. Doesn't deserve a vote because you're town but just sayin'.

PEDIT: I don't do walls. I'll do it quick. BRB.

[Friend]

So far, Whiskers seems the most scummy to me. However, I do NOT like the bandwaggon that is starting to form on him. It's way too early in the day to lynch somebody. We need to give him a good chance to defend himself. Hasty votes lead to loses. We also need to decide what we should do IF we lynch Whiskers and he flips town. Who is the next suspect? What if he flips scum? Who do we think his parters are? As scummy as he seems, we should not hammer whiskers yet. There is still much work to be done today as far as scum hunting.

Telling the town what to do without doing shit about it himself.

"Hey guys, here's the pro-town thing to do! Now go do it!"

Almost positive you're mafia now.

With no vote. Knew it was going to be a mislynch?

Remember, when you're town, you're doing real investigating and making real cases

, but when you're scum, you have to manufacture votes from thin air. Seems like that's what you just did, unless you can make an ACTUAL case against me, other than the fact that I suspected you, so you automatically don't like me.

Yet again.

I'm too lazy to quote the rest of his ISO but there's a huge pattern of "We need evidence to lynch! No votes!" and then NOT DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT HIMSELF.

@Whiskers: You're not on it cause you're town.

About LTP, his one post gives me hella scum vibes and he's lurking which is generally a shitty thing to do as town. Notice he's down there on the list, though.

I'll get back to you on Tova.

[Friend]

grow a pair and find someone scummy for what they have said not because they're totally checked out on this game.

You fucking kidding me dude?

Also when the HELL did I call Whiskers scum outside of the early stages of the game? You were on the fucking Whiskers wagon at the same time as me.

Saying "easy lynches" is NOT A FUCKING SCUMTELL. PEOPLE ARE SCUMMY FOR A FUCKING REASON AND CALLING THEM OUT FOR IT IS NOT A DAMN SCUMTELL.

[Friend]

Oh, Maru.

Well Music is still the scummiest for all the people not on his wagon.

[Friend]

Whiskers I don't want to make a case on Tova today when I don't realllly want to lynch him unless there's a good amount of pre-existing support for it from the town.

[Friend]

You're right, Tova. I have gotten a little flustered.

It's just frustrating when there's such an incredible town v. town fight going on right now that's really taking attention away from the scum.

I don't have a case against you for today, Tova, like I've said. There's definitely people that deserve the rope more than you do, but I find you fairly scummy.

[Friend]

Saying the substrike v. Maru fight was town v. town implies that I think you're town, Maru.

[Friend]

Chainsaw defense is attacking someone else's attacker. It's completely irrelevant without flips, though, Noramp, so stop using as a tell until there are some.

[Friend]

Nobody can edit their posts, and if you somehow can it's a modkillable offense.

[Friend]

You act like replacing out is a towntell.

The replacement is going to have to play damn well to get my vote off him. I'm still convinced that slot is scummy as hell.

[Friend]

@Substrike, btw.

[Friend]

Panacea, no bob votes today even though he's probably scum.

MusicNinja votes are the way to go since we probably don't have too much time for a competing wagon and Maruchan is pretty clearly town.

[Friend]

I'm always confident when I scumhunt. If you doubt yourself, you're less effective.

[Friend]

@Mod: I will be VLA from Monday to Saturday next week.

I'll have access but posting will be spotty.

Noted.

[Friend]

Going to Cabo, actually.

[Friend]

I am a big fan of Link as well.

[Friend]

No, Link gets off that list.

[Friend]

Whiskers, then I thought you were scum and one or more of your buddies was voting you.

[Friend]

UNVOTE VOTE BOBSNOX

[Friend]

My defense is that your claim makes no sense

Someone hammer this scumbag.

[Friend]

Looking forward to xvart's catchup post. MusicNinja was scummy as hell and I'm not willing to let that slide until xvart talks.

Anyways, Substrike's last post feels like a post I would make as frustrated town.

[Friend]

Funnily enough, I replaced Tovarish in iama's newbie game.

VOTE: xvart

[Friend]

Awesome. We nailed xvart.

Why isn't he dead yet?

[Friend]

I'm VLA. Not really under-the-radar

[Friend]

VOTE: Panacea

username's analysis is correct. Our scum is in that pool. I'm going with the gut read I had from D1.

[Friend]

Panacea, Iama's suspicions were simply a matter of PoE + the fact that I think he's town. It wasn't just sheeping, it was the only way to go.

I'll work out a case on you soon.

[Friend]

I think there's a possibility Noramp is fakeclaiming.

[Friend]

Well, not really a surprise there. But we still have this game on lock.

Who next?

VOTE: Noramp

[Friend]

Oh, shoot. Totally forgot Noramp was the tracker. I was just going down the list.

Unvote, vote: Whiskers

[Friend]

This setup was fucked from the start of the game.

Lynch me now, scum had no chance from setup alone.

Seriously, mod, cop + tracker + JK against just a godfather? That's it? No scum RB?

Unbalanced as hell and my scumbuddies weren't any help either. Good PR play, town. I see no way out of this.

VOTE: Friend

[Friend]

It was not reasonably balanced, honestly. Mod did a great job running the game but there 3 town PRs against 1 scum PR is not a good setup. Especially with a cop. Town had it easy.

[Friend]

One mistake I did make was being unavailable for the NK, which xvart had to send it. That kind of hurt us when Maruchan jailed him.

Scum had to play great to win over the PRs, and with my two buddies being not very good (xvart did well with what he had) I didn't really have much chance.

[Friend]

xvart, I figured my only chance at winning was to make some sort of ridiculous scenario where Noramp was fakeclaiming and pray that he didn't track me.

[Friend]

Also, Scumhunter, you really did nail the entire scumteam really early on. Props.