Mini 1238 - One After the Other - Over!

[Whiskers]

Fuck I am falling down all of these stairs.

I missed RVS!

IT KEEPS.
HAPPENING!

No, you don't lynch trap setters, traps are inherently pro-town.
VOTE: Whispersilk.

I fucking hate vote tags, can I just use bold?
Goddamn ninjas.
UNVOTE: Whispersilk
VOTE: pseudonymous

[Whiskers]

Monk, Y U End RVS? We don't even have everypony checked in yet.

Furthermore, I brought y'all a little gift-- for Killjoy, or our mod M to use-- This character basically represents all the haters. You can imagine here, if you'd like, she's saying, "FUCK DEM PONIES!" but she wasn't, 'cause it's a kids' show.

[preedit]
Nope, it's pretty easy; You set up a thing and see who votes with you. Trap.
[Preedit2]
Also wrong. If he's new he should not be setting traps.
If his join date was in 2008, he'd be cleared by now.

[Whiskers]

WHAT THE FUCK, HE'S ALIVE AND SHIT.
[quote="Friend"] I just don't think monk is a good enough player to think that far ahead. I've played with him before. [quote]
Thank GOD, I always worry that I'm just retarded or something, when I have an opinion. I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels that way.

Friend is right. Here, have a vote:
VOTE: whispersilk

[Whiskers]

^What?

Also,

VC, please,

bro.

sir.

[Whiskers]

You'd clearly buy anything.

Picking up on little things and seeing where they take you does not = flustered. Friend blatantly changed the entire tone of monk's post.

He changed it from "Nervous and sarcastic" to "Paraphrased and sarcastic".

Hell if I know if monk is scum.

Ah, but you do.

What I do know is that Friend voted for monk using the reasoning that monk's tone was a nervous one when he claimed it was all a plan. It wasn't.

It was.

Friend changed the tone and wording of monk's post to support his reasoning.

Yeah, do we care?

End of story.

Cool story, bro.

Oh wait, Empking still hasn't answered my question.

Is This your question to Empking?

Don't you think there is anything suspicious about someone changing the words and tone of a post to suit their claims?

I think you have to take it on a case by case basis. I think this is a case where it was fine. Friend plays like that.

Kudo's to the scum who have been bold enough to jump on my wagon thus far.

Is this what they call tutoring? That's tutoring, right?

[Whiskers]

Guys, even though whisper is being annoyingly misguided I think she's town.

Now, ashblade, though...he's probably not.

*snip*

So this wagon is a go.

UNVOTE: Monk
VOTE: Ashblade

I'm gonna wait for a while. Your case on Ash is that he's weak and stuff? Why? We've got nice strong flailing right here in whispersilk.

[Whiskers]

Will we get to revisit this case in LyLo?

Un--fuck

UNVOTE: whispersilk Hate those tags.

[Whiskers]

So, ThirdKoopa, just to make sure I understand correctly, your reads are:

Friend - Null
Whisper - Null
Monk - Null

and

Pseudo - Null.

Right?


...Oh, and

Ash - Null.

[Whiskers]

Here, have a vote:
VOTE: ThirdKoopa

Subject to change, but from what I understand you're supposed to be a fucking fantastic player and you come in and posted a post of Null reads with no content, also, you said something was fishy with something about Whisper/Friend, but I don't know WHAT you thought was fishy; what you said, it didn't make sense. Not comprehendable.

Been suspicious still around something in the Monk situation; somehow I feel like there was something undermined as it derailed to the Whisper/Friend argument.

What is this, Third? Because I don't, even.

[preedit]
@monk
what? Where?

[Whiskers]

my bad I see what you did there now

Nope. I think I'm onto something here.

Whiskers you forgot some

What

was

this supposed to mean?

[Whiskers]

@monk: Good enough for me.

Zdenek: Why do you ask?

[Whiskers]

Friend thinks she's flail-town. She's a new account (new player? maybe.) and I can kind of see that.
Kind of. Frankly, I'm not entirely out of "RVS" -- I know you all like to draw the line and say, "oh lol, we're out of RVS," but I'm not taking it as a place to be silly.
Read this on RVS
There you go. For example, my question of monk just now was something that fits in RVS-- I don't have much info to go on, but I'm scumhunting anyway.

Actually... scum make some of their best slips in RVS, & you come back and look at them in LyLo. So ending RVS could be thought of as pro-scum... hmm....

Nah, I just want a reason to lynch monk, he's making me rage in my other game.

[Whiskers]

I don't really care how obvtown you are, WTH did ^that^ mean?

[Whiskers]

I also didn't understand post 93.

No, I don't think you're scum-- at least, I'll wait for the whisperflip, I think your vote on her was real.

Don't have a reason to think you're scum but you say some weird shit that is not make a sense. You accidentally the WHOLE ENGLISH language. Is that bad?

[Whiskers]

I actually love walls. From the eye contact and the blushing, I'd say the feeling is mutual.

But, you know,

coherent

walls.
Yeah, maybe don't post when you're tired.

..but don't be tired too often.

[Whiskers]

Vote: goddamnit

VOTE: monk

imma sheep ashblade here. Eh defends and attacks and doesn't afraid of anything.

[Whiskers]

Yeah, but ashblade doesn't look scummy. Ashblade is Not Scum.

[Whiskers]

That's true, but you're making me RAAAAAAAGE and I can't do anything about it.

Anyway,

UnvoFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

UNVOTE: monk
If you're scummy later I will not hesitate to lynch you. I guess that goes without saying...

Don't have a reason to think you're scum but you say some weird shit that is not make a sense. You accidentally the WHOLE ENGLISH language. Is that bad?

que esta que ingles tu hables de?

Yeah so I'm not moving.

Wtf does this mean?! Moving from what? ????????????????????? What the hell? Do you english?

[Whiskers]

Wait, wait, wait. Ash posts a wall and you start getting all "Ash is town" on us, Whiskers?

What about Ash is town?

When did ash do a wall? I started isoing him with the intent to find scummy stuff to lynch, but Ash has probvided content on EVERY post so far. (up to the point where I stopped, at least).

[Whiskers]

I suppose... Maybe I'm just sick of lurkers.

[Whiskers]

Ashblade, however, has not. I just wanted to point that out.

[Whiskers]

Yeah, um, according to Killjoy, I should be a fantastic town read, too, since I joined, what, three days before monk.

[Whiskers]

Whiskers is very likely town just for saying that she wants to lynch Monk because of something that is happening in another game.

I'm not sure I agree with this, she isn't doing the same sort of scumhunting here, but that doesn't matter you shouldn't let another game affect how you play, it is incredibly anti-town and doesn't help anyone. A meta sample of two (the games I have played/other games playing with Whiskers) is not very good especially when she's as new as me and she's played a different game each one. And in any case I rarely play to meta so there's no point in using it in my opinion.

In one, i was confotwn (If I remember the game correctly -- it's finished right?) and a mason.
The second one is ongoing, but you think I"m scum
Then there's this one, where I don't play like either of them.

AND you don't use meta. Nice answer. if you don't use meta, then this whole post was useless fluff. It was useless to you because you don't believe in meta.
So why did you post it?

[Whiskers]

He needs to vote more, I'll give you that.

[Whiskers]

Where is my vote? I don't even remember right now.

Oh.
Eh, IDK, I don't want to blindly sheep Friend. I mean, yeah, sure, it's usually a good thing to do, but you can't do it all the time. I have a twon read on Ash, and meh on the rest. Whispersilk is nullscum, Zdenek I wasn't really paying attention to until somepony suggested dualing wagons, and Pseudo may be scum, since friend is voting her.

[Whiskers]

There isn't much to say? IDK though, 'cause empking usually has a useless, unexplained list of reads by now.

[preedit] According to Zden, THIS GAME.

[Whiskers]

The bold was the only thing of use from your post.

Therefore, the REST of it was Not useful.
AKA, Fluff.

Substantial answer is substantial.

[Whiskers]

Hikari, It's sooooo ohard to understand you. Your second-to-last post is the only one that made any sense, and at the time, "What I was doing righ tnow" was drinking a root-beer and I stopped that. Are you happy? Because I'm not.

[Whiskers]

That also begs the question of why Mute thinks I'm town.
Y U think I'm town, Mute? And of course, as monk said, Y U think I'm town, Zden?

[Whiskers]

In that case, have a vote!

VOTE: Zdenek
That's five, how many to lynch this kid?

[Whiskers]

The attempt to call two of the scum team on day one and on page seven for terrible reasons is faking content and attempting to appear useful - it's pointless because of how likely it is to be wrong (in this case, I know she is wrong).

But, you know, it's okay on page five-- in your first post of the game.

Vote ashblade

Pseudo is also scum.

[Whiskers]

Yes; tomorrow?

[Whiskers]

What post of Mute's are you referring to?

Also, I jsut noticed that Friend is pushing for a Pseudo wagon (lurker wagon) and Zdenek's first post also said Pseudo was scum, AND Friend is against the Zdenek wagon. Trying to break up the Scumwagon for lurkerhunting? cool beans, man.

[Whiskers]

That post is so fucking confusing I don't even know who said what. It looks like bold allthrougought, and then at the end there's bold responding to the bold.

But I"m not going to tutor you-- Yes, I think you should respond to it. I think it would be good. Of course, if you're scum, the more you say, the more likely you are to out oyur partner.

[Whiskers]

You're being uncooperative. While that's technically playing toward your win condition, mafia generally wants to blend in and look good. Also, Mute is not blathering, nor do I believe him to be scum. Your scumflip will strengthen that read.

[Whiskers]

Furthermore, I'm also voting you for this:

Vote ashblade

Pseudo is also scum.

For this,

Is there a miller in the game?

and for this:

So Ashblade's motivations aren't townie in the least.

Just look at his reads and notice that he doesn't say what he thinks about TK and Pseudo, two people actually guilty of reasonable scum tells (laziness and fencesitting), and decided to put a pressure vote on Monk.

Lynch him now please.

Yeah, but ashblade doesn't look scummy. Ashblade is Not Scum.

Okay

Unvote
Vote Empking

What? Way to change your reads? Way to stay firm in your beliefs? Let me rephrase this all:
"Hey, I think Ashblade is scum, here are some good reasons for it [reasons]."
"I think you're wrong."
"Oh man, I better move my vote then."
Planting your suspicion for laaaater? Why did you even move your vote here?

Oh, and this:

I started isoing him with the intent to find scummy stuff to lynch, but Ash has probvided content on EVERY post so far.

Silly me for thinking that you had a real reason.

So what are you going to do with this information?

Keep it in mind.

That's lame. I suppose it was a loaded question, but really. Oop, and this:

Whiskers is very likely town just for saying that she wants to lynch Monk because of something that is happening in another game.

You need to get out more, bro. Even if this wasn't me playing against wincon, it's

at best

a null-tell to have a grudge against another player. Also, it's a bad reason to vote somepony. Scum wants bad, random lynches, so maybe a bad, random vote isn't pro-town?
And you're scummy for suggesting it is a town read.

Meh. There are others, too, that I could point out or make a big deal over, but you've been caught. Keep reading during the rest of the game and keep eyes out for ways to improve.

[Whiskers]

TBH, you sound like me in my early games when I was caught-town.
UNVOTE: Zdenek

[Whiskers]

Like... he's sneakier? He posts fluff but makes you think it's info...?

monk and pseudo are buddies?

pseudo only has three posts, Friend. why the fuck are you so pushing on his wagon? Why? Why why why?

[Whiskers]

"[thoughtbubble]Man, he's going down, otta get a prod on him pronto before he comes under serious pressure/suspicion.[/thoughtbubble] Hey Friend, don't you think this

OTHER

guy is even MORE scummy?"

Just pointing it out. Not anything to vote over. But good you asked.

[Whiskers]

Sure.

But that's what I saw in it, and that's what I was referring to when you asked me what I meant.

[Whiskers]

I'm glad you think it's ok. <3

I just mentioned it in passing. I'm not calling you out on it, and lynching you for it. I don't know what either of you will flip, although you look worse here than you do in our other game, even. But I don't know what eithr of you will be and I'm not syaing that you are scum, I was only,

merely

pointing out that they buddying was there.

[Whiskers]

^This.
monk and I are also sharing a game where there's a guy being a dickwad and not playing the game... I don't know how else t put it. He hasn't complained about stuff keeping him from the site though, he's just playing like that.

But, yeah, wrap up what you've got, or V/LA, or replace out, or something.

[Whiskers]

Wait wait wait.

If I am scum, Zed is town. If Zed is scum, I am town.

Since (as it stands) Zed is (most likely) being lynched today, what effect does his flip have on me? If he flips scum, that apparently makes me town. But if he flips town, does that make me scum?
Or is it only if you get a scumflip that it autoclears the other one?

[Whiskers]

Who's with him? Because suddenly Ashblade looks like he's killing it (the wagon).

[Whiskers]

What posts are townie and which are scummy? You guys are all saying yoiu're flipping your reads on me (which means, null, bascially, right?), but I want to know what I'm doing that you think is scum-telling.

[Whiskers]

Ashblade: Why not?

[Whiskers]

Shouldn't we lynch him then? Kill apathetic lurkers.

[Whiskers]

"Coming off as weird:" Read as, "Suspicious of me."

OMGUS noted...

[Whiskers]

So does anyone have a rationale reason for thinking Mute is town?

He's answered your questions, you're just trying to make it look as if he hasn't

I'm pretty sure that you can't read

at this point

, and since you're probably town, that's huge shame.

Z: Does anypony have a rationale for thinking Mute is town?
m: Yes.
Z: Well, clearly, it's too early to tell.

[Whiskers]

Hikari is being dumb and if he is scum he will out him self and be lynched for it later. If he is scum, he will

keep

acting scummy and dropping tells. That's not going away soon. Perhaps more likely is that he has some fantastic plan or power role and will reveal it later, but that's wifom. I'll wait until I had enough of his bullshit, and until there

IS

enough of his bullshit, and then I'll build a case on him and either force him to play well or lynch him for being scum. Trying to support your wagon without taking responsibility will be in that case.

In the mean time, you look a lot scummier than he does.

THAT SAID: Hikari, why

aren't

you voting for Zdenek?

Zdenek is at 4. Seven to lynch (MAN, I wish our mod would put that in the votecounts). Make it five-- that's L-2.
VOTE: Zd enek

[Whiskers]

VOTE: Zdenek

[Whiskers]

So basically, you're going to use this game to refer to the penis as much as possible?
I mean, it's good to have a theme, and stuff, but it's a little weird that you're so open about it.

My bisexuality is tech. BUT some other player telling you to stop fluffing would be even techier. Just sayin'

[Whiskers]

What is "tech"?
And how am I confirmed town?

[Whiskers]

If he actually thought that I was scum, he'd be saying that I am asking asinine questions because I am scum trying to active lurk or for some other motivation that is attributed to scum. Instead, he attributed a relatively townie motivation to my actions.

Why are you asking such an asinine question?

Oh yeah, he did that. My bad.

Fixed that for you.

[Whiskers]

Zed's appeal to emotion / guilt tripping in post 336 is noted.

I missed it, can you be more specific?

[Whiskers]

Hey Killjoy, care to give an explanation why you haven't posted/prod-dodged until now?

[Whiskers]

That was hammer, right?

You're still saying, "If I flip town" as if there's a chance you won't. If

YOU

think there's a chance you won't flip town, it's probably because you're scum. It doesn't matter what

WE

think, because

YOU

know your alignment. You're basically saying, "I

MIGHT

flip town. But maybe not."

[Whiskers]

"I cut off his head to put it into this bag of flour that I have been eating."
Some how, your way is less squicky.

So what now?

What do you all think of Zden now that he's flipped? Is it worth the time to go back and read his arguments? He was flailing pretty hard. I'm considering looking into a monk or Mute case (i don't remember which...), but probably not looking at Zden's posts directly.

[Whiskers]

Nice reasoning.

Any reason?

[Whiskers]

Nice reasoning.

Vote: Empking

I know it's not your style to say anything useful ever, but give us something.
Frankly, I don't have reason to believe that Mute is scum and Killjoy has been active and strong.
But, "Oh goodness" monk is trying to get them to play the game and make cases against each other. He has a read against both of them and will vote for one of them, but is looking for the better case-- not to mention more talking. The more somepony talks, the more likely she is to incriminate herself.

[Whiskers]

...
'Kay.

took me a while to figure out what you meant by "with a vote."

But okay.
monk, take it from here.

[Whiskers]

That's what I thought. I didn't realize they had votes on them until Empking actually said it. Mute gives me this sort of Cheshire Cat feel, and Killjoy is doing his Griffon (RAAAGE) avatar proud. With a lot of shouting.

[Whiskers]

Ya. After looking at the last page less sure of Whiskers. He seems like a weak player. I attributed that to be weak scum, but his partial tunneling on Zed last page make it seem like he is a sheep and just needs to be put on the right path. If Whiskers is scum, then Zed is town. If Zed is scum, then Whiskers is town.

Gonna put Whiskers as null-lean scum.

Zed is null-lean town.

Pseudo looks genuine with his inactivity.

Monk is town.

Friend, why were you pushing a Pseudo vote? Because of his inherent scumminess or because he was inactive?

"Zed was really my only read."
^Trololwat

[Whiskers]

Anyway, my read on him: There is a surprising lack of unsupported lists. I've only played with him once and (I think) he hasn't flipped in that game yet. But his play there is similar to the way it is here, except for in that game, he occasionally gave lists of reads that made sense but he didn't back them up. That was scummy, but they made sense. Here, he doesn't even do that. He's playing very little, but as far as I can tell, it's in his meta do be brief to the point of obscurity. It is one of those things that makes me rage.

I'm also suspicious of the fact that he answered me so quickly. I don't remember him doing that. I remember him ignoring things.

[Whiskers]

Whispersilk has 30 posts-- that's ten more posts than Killjoy.
Also, Whispersilk, get back into this game, we're not done with you yet.

[Whiskers]

VOTE: Hikari

@Silk: Okay, sure-- but isn't the usually best policy to lynch/vig the most neutral players?

[Whiskers]

Wait, you got active? Where? I missed it. Aw MAN, I MISSED it when you FINALLY got ACTIVE!

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU...!!!

[Whiskers]

Well... #347, #354, and #357 are

kinda

close together... Is that when you mean? Is that when you were active?

[Whiskers]

So, why CAN'T you choose a pony to vote? Why do you have a lack of enthusiasm, all of a sudden?

monk: I'm being at least as useful as Hikari. [/blameshuffle]

[Whiskers]

I figured it would be me, that's why I was confused as to why you hadn't voted for me, since you obviously still had a thing for me.

[Whiskers]

Since when is it a good idea to sheep Empking?

[Whiskers]

Nice fluff post, bro.

FoS

: Pseudo

Hey, I was gonna say that!

Yeah, when you're V/LA, you pretty much don't have to post at all. That's why you go on V/LA.

[Whiskers]

Vote Count 2.1

.1 (Whiskers Edition)

Monk - Empking,

chkflip, Hiraki (3)

Hiraki - Whiskers (1)
Killjoy - Monk,

Ashblade, Nopony Special (3)

Not voting - like

5

people

Unvote

, Thereby voiding the previously posted votecount.

[Whiskers]

Mute thoughts on Killjoy?
Killjoy thoughts on Mute?

Oh goodness.

Unvote, Vote: Monk

So now we've got votes on Monk, and we've got votes on Killjoy, why aren't there any votes on Mute (replaced by Nopony Special)?

[Whiskers]

I don't get it. Frickin' WHY? is he town?

[Whiskers]

I thought this was Florida.

[Whiskers]

So you're scum? Informed minority?

[Whiskers]

Oh jesus, chkflip too?

[Whiskers]

IT'S LIKE SOME KIND OF CULT.
MERANSIEL, YOU DO KNOW THAT CULTS ARE NON-NORMAL, RIGHT?

Sod off

[Whiskers]

"kinda willing to go with Whisper's play despite it's inherent flaws. Some people are too active"
What, you mean... you're going to start lurking?

[Whiskers]

"Of course," but you're not vocal scum, are you?

Who is? I have the largest number of posts, but I really can't advocate a lynch on myself when I'm town.

[Whiskers]

Because I won't agree with whispersilk and try to push my own lynch?

Also, I'm not noobtown.

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE.

[Whiskers]

my read just went from uber noob town to null.

ugh

uh no

and we are aware you are not noobtown

try harder next time

[Whiskers]

It is infuriating that I am passed over for being a "noob."

I'm not.

You "told" me that, I already knew it. You, apparently, didn't.

[Whiskers]

chkflip, protip: post content.

[Whiskers]

I still don't understand it. Okay, re-reading is a thing, maybe you should do it. Why though? Why don't you have any thoughts on your first read through? Why just a "blatant Empking sheep," if you've already read it?

[Whiskers]

If all you were going to do was say monk was scum for the same thing, why did you need to do a readthrough?

(btw, the "same thing" as what?)

What's the difference between... what?

Am I voting yet?

Vote:chkflip

[Whiskers]

Okay, well, I'll take that into account. Right now, you're where I want my vote. If I find a better candidate, I'll move it, but it makes me nervous to have a vote and not be voting.

[Whiskers]

Doing it to keep my vote out.
monk, haven't forgotten your request.

[Whiskers]

Flippant by telling you I haven't forgotten?
It's something I will need a large block of time for, I haven't had one yet. I'm not posting in this game, because my next posts are supposed to be my reads/cases. I don't have that much time, so rather than ignore/forget your question, I am simply posting very little until I can fufill your request. Flippant my ass.

In other news, sure! The game

is

stalling, but it is not my job to push it, keep it up to speed and rolling. You want to bash somepony for the game stalling? How about chkflip, Empking, pseudo? Hiraki is posting at least, but not anything good. I asked him a question, trying to get {an active lurker} to participate, instead, I got a one-liner.

Tl;dr, I'll give you my reads when I have time. Don't accuse me of being flippant, as I've been no more flippant than usual. Don't you dare blame WHOLE GAME stalling on me.

[Whiskers]

Looking at monk's ISO, nearly all of his posts are one-liners and most of them fluff? However, since Hirkai is

obviously

town, and

Monk isn't scum due to join date.

, I can't well vote for monk, now can I?
Post #418 is good though, which leads me to my next ISO victim.

Monk's an idiot. So he gets the benefit of the doubt.

Just wanted to point this out briefly. Why do we all think monk is a bad player? He's playing

differently

in this game than he did in the other game I played with him in, but he actually had something to fight against in that game.
TBH, I don't see a lot of scumtells from monk. Declared Town, by virtue of the fact that she's too dumb to scum. Then again, she played reasonably in Masquerade, where she flipped TOWN, so the different playstyle...?
Town until I can get Hiraki lynched.
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Killjoy makes a lot of votes. She also says Day 2 that Zdenek was her only read (and then proceeds to say she thinks I'm scum -___-). Her Epicmafia heritage is pretty obvious here. Killjoy, I'm not saying you're a bad player, but I'm saying EM conditions you to play a certain way (loudly and headfirst) and you are playing that way here. Not scum. (Therefore town.)
Gilda's most recent post, she votes Ashblade. I'll go there next.
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#131 (Ashblade's)
Now that I'm not in another game with monk (&therefore, don't hate her for any reasons outside of

this

game), this looks a little weird. Obviously I'm not sheeping it anymore. I can't put my hoof on it but this post is a little funny.
As I said at one point, every post of his had game-useful content.

From Ashblade's #272, Zdenek Also appears to be too dumb to scum. Ashblade certainly believes that.
Killjoy seems to sort-of agree with whispersilk's plan of "lynch non-scum-looking players," and Ashblade (#441) seems to want to refine her plan-- since whispersilk said to do it on Day 1 AND 2, when Day 2 isn't really a useful option or one that makes sense.

Meh, from then on, I see Ashblade's reasoning and he looks better and better-- he has content in EVERY post, excluding, like, V/LA announcements. Also, players like Killjoy look worse for things like Not voting me-- I called her out for this on my own, but Ashblade did the same thing. The fact that we think alike makes me think we're the same alignment.
Town.
Next is pseudo, who is the main reason Ashblade looks scummy at all. Ashblade keeps defending pseudo, idk why.
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Pseudo doesn't post 'til #86-- page four... then does very little but stays kind of active.

#285 is an omgus, correct?
#448 is bad, so bad. I guess he doesn't understand V/LA, and that's why Ashblade is willing to let him off the hook? Elsewhere in this post: fluff.

#493, more fluff, explains away his uselessness/lurking as having a hard time reading the players.
He then drops suspicion on chkflip for being scummy (doesn't look like bussing, and that was legitiamtely scummy/stoopid move on chkclip's behalf), and drops suspicion on Empking for throwing the vote out there and then voting monk (who had the same scum reads as Hiraki and Empking, apparently).

Chkflip remained scummy. What he did was scummy, no matter whether he was reading or re-reading. I'll go there next.
Pseudo is on the scum-side of my reads. ((Btw, shouldn't Pseudo NOT be scum, due to join date, too?))
-------
chkflip ISO:
#444: Votes for no good reason.
#446: Buddying, putting heavier suspicion on monk for that thing which is a meh-tell.
#449: Nice one-liner, bro.

FoS

: chkflip
...but why no vote?
#451: Fluff? But I agree, the M/S fluff is annoying. A Breadcrumb, maybe? While Pseudo's attacks on you don't look like bussing, your attacks on him do.
#452: Yeah, but why?
#464: Yeah, but WHY!? Why are you together, forming a team? btw, if you are scum, then you can pick some buddies out of three townies and say, "ooh, these guys are town."
#485: Protip: Do something, you lurking asshat.
#487: FUNNY!? you seemed to have made town-reads (for no reason, I'll add), and established

two

scum reads-- monk, and pseudo. But nice try.
#491: Since gilda technically didn't ask for WHY he had those town reads, this post is... okay, I guess. Still, just say who you replaced. you have the time &effort to be a jerk, why not type the names out? It'd take less time.
#494: Doesn't matter,
Because either way, all you were going to do was say monk was scum for the same thing. (#500.)

So, "Emphasis on RE-reading, genius." and then "What's the difference?"

#502: The difference is, if monk is really scum, then you'll have reads and reasons of your own. If you come to the same conclusion on your own, it's not really a sheep, is it?

Also, since you weren't finished "

RE

-reading, genius." because you "read threads several times." you weren't ready to throw out a vote, so the fact that you were "

RE

-reading" "is moot, bro."

chkflip is scum.

Whom did he replace, Friend, right? I'll look briefly at his ISO next.

Aha, see, Friend I like. his posts about monk had substance and were reasonable. He also got into a scuffle with whispersilk, which I don't mind. Friend might have been a misguided townie, but chkflip is scum. Also, Friend is a very good player, so, he could hide his scumminess better?
Freind's scum-reads: Pseudo, ThirdKoopa, Ashblade. (Bussing, bussing, redherring?)
-------

whispersilk:
Is a bit of a jerk, defends monk pretty hard, I guess this whole "monk's Thing" was what made Empking tunnel on monk and what made everypont else call monk too dumb to scum.
In #111 and before, Friend says, "oh no, don't get me wrong: I think Silk is wrong, but town-aligned."
In #128, Whispersilk says the same thing about friend, and in #130, unvotes him. Awwwwww. <3

Blah, blah, two ISO posts = 200+Real posts, and those two are excuses for lurking/not paying attention to

this

game. Then, in

#403,

she brings out her asinine-sounding plan to lynch townies. Next five posts are explaining the same, and the last, #470, ISO #36, is whining that "BAW, nopony ever listens to MEEEEE!" and saying that there are vocal scum, but not saying whom. Way to not give reads, bro.

[Whiskers]

I'm not getting a town feeling from whispersilk. I'm getting a scum one. Friend said she's town, but Friend's playerslot is full of scum.

[Whiskers]

Why would he vote monk?
Besides, he said monk's town, so he wouldn't be voting him anyway. Don't be retarded, bro?

[Whiskers]

Then again, monk hasn't posted since my wonderful wall of ISOs.

But really, I'd rather lynch the active lurker (the word I use instead of a personal attack) Hiraki, or chkflip, scum.

--
[Preedit]
What? Since when does he have the focus on him?

YOUR

focus is on him.

The game is stalling... so what? That's your fault as much as his, I reckon.

[Whiskers]

Wait wait wait, what?
The town's

sole

scumhunter?

You've picked monk for something he did at the beginning of the Day and haven't let go.
Look, who's your second pick?

[Whiskers]

How about your buddy Hiraki? man, he's so town, so much.

Monk isn't scum due to join date.

How can you ignore the verdict of the best player in the whole game?

[Whiskers]

Still, my favorite townie (shares all my other reads) has monk as a slight scumread.

I'd do it to avoid a no-lynch. That said, Killjoy is probably the better lynch today, and chkflip even better than that, and Hiraki an e-- RAAAAAAAAGEEEEEE!!!!

[preedit]

Bullshit.

I

was engaging in hyperbole. Hiraki was being serious.

[Whiskers]

How about the rest of that post?

In which he goes on to say

why

monk isn't scum because he's new

[Whiskers]

Why, Hiraki? You yourself seem to think monk is town! Why would you want others to vote him?? Looking for framing-candidates tomorro? Yes, that must be it.

[Whiskers]

My Little Pokemon: Scumhunting is Magikarp

[Whiskers]

Empking: That was a fucking terrible reply.

Empking: "I am the only player to scumhunt this entire game!! I dare you: somepony, challenge me!!!"
monk: "Oh, here's the case

I

made, thus refuting your claim to "sole scumhunter"!!!"
Empking: "...kay." *continues to vote monk anyway*

[Whiskers]

Vote: Kill

Vote: Mute

Mute thoughts on Killjoy?
Killjoy thoughts on Mute?

They are my two scum picks at the moment and neither of them have said anything about the other, that is the reasoning I could care less that they have votes on them

CASE

Unvote. Vote: Monk

- Two random votes, the first a second vote.

I set a trap, I didn't think you'd be the one to set it off, disappointing empking

VOTE: Empking

I honestly laughed at this. Really, that's what you're going with?

Anyone up for Lynch Alll Trap-Setters. That has to be the worst excuse ever used in mafia and I haven't seen it for so long.

This is your case, the rest of your ISO is restatement or fluff.

gtg 2 class.

[Whiskers]

HEY MONK: YOU WANTED MY READS. PLEASE AKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY ARE THERE AND STUFF.

[Whiskers]

Guys: ISO Nopony Special with his predecessor, Mute.

Mute makes a case against Zdenek. Zdenek gets lynched, Mute says, "Oh, I'm not gonna vote yet." Then replaces out.
Nopony Special, votes for Killjoy (for no reason), votes for Killjoy harder (for no reason), asks why everypony isn't voting for Killjoy, claims to be town, and then sheeps Empking and Hiraki in voting for monk (for no reason).

There you go. Scum found.

How many players do we have? Imma say there's scum in Chkflip, Whispersilk, (for staging a big town-on-town). Nopony Special, Hiraki, maybe Empking. Killjoy is scummy, but I'm willing to let her go because most of the scumtells on her (if I remember correctly) are actually just EpicMafia.com-tells.

[Whiskers]

Yeah, I don't know whispersilk's meta, but Friend could pull it off, and I think he might have testes just large enough to try it.
Do note that it was mostly just those two, with nopony else commenting (much).
What really cinches it for me is that they ended with a big hug.

It wasn't somepony else coming in and saying, "Hey, guys, this is a town on town and it's detracting from the game, please stop and give me your reads on X." Instead it was, "Hey, I think you're pretty cute." "I think you're pretty cute too."

[Whiskers]

^Bullshit.

Also, to your second point, Bullshit.

[Whiskers]

You are, for one. My response is just as fluffy as the post it responded to.

Also, it is as fluffy as the post you made to respond to it. Accuse me of fluff, will you, while posting fluff yourself?

YOU are scum, chkflip, you.

[Whiskers]

I, FOR ONE, FEEL RATHER BUTTHURT.

[Whiskers]

*SADDLESORE

[Whiskers]

What does this mean?

ITT Whiskers gimmick-fails. They also miss my exaggerated point in 562. Not moving my vote.

what does it even mean?
"ITT"? what?

"Whiskers gammick-fails"? what?

Soemthing was exaggerated in #562? what? Hey protip for you: Sarcasm doesn't transmit well over the internet.

Who was your vote on?

[Whiskers]

Yeah, that'd be fucking great.

So, we lynch townie monk, just for the flip?


Empking, how do you feel about meta?

[Whiskers]

Right, now go deeper.

Empking, how do you feel about meta?

[Whiskers]

Fascinating.

monk isn't playing the same way he was in the other game I was with him in.
In that game, he was town.

However, in that game, he was also coming under heavy fire.

In any case, I don't think he's scum-- at least, I'm not so

sure

he's scum that I'll vote him now. Your scumtells on him are minor and few.

[Whiskers]

You can't make up any other reason for monk to be scum? you can't even make something up?

[Whiskers]

I suppose I should have been more specific, Empking is the master scumhunter here-- I was asking him.


Then again, you're like, the most towniest town player town ever town. I put your town in your town so you can town while you town. I should be honored to even be playing with you, because you're such a great

town

player that everything you do should be taken as law.

[Whiskers]

^Fluff.

Also, to your second point, fluff.

Who's scum?

I ddidn't exaggurate anything here. You said my post was fluff. I said the post before it and the post after it were fluff. I said you accused me of posting fluff in your own fluff post.

[Whiskers]

If it was a joke, then why post it? You tried to make me look bad... but when I call you out on it, you tell me it's a joke.

I don't see you NOT being scum, chkflip.

[Whiskers]

I'll agree with that. Chklynch (flipscum) ahoy!

[Whiskers]

Ooh, how about chkflip, who`s riding Friend's town-cred like a bitch for every post in the entire game?

[Whiskers]

Dude, your case is straw-manning at best.

See also: whining about my ad hom and then ending with ad hom makes that entire post worthless. Stop fluffing the thread and come back when you actually have a case for me to defend, guy.

Chkflip remained scummy. What he did was scummy, no matter whether he was reading or re-reading. I'll go there next.
-------
chkflip ISO:
#444: Votes for no good reason.
#446: Buddying, putting heavier suspicion on monk for that thing which is a meh-tell.
#449: Nice one-liner, bro.

FoS

: chkflip
...but why no vote?
#451: Fluff? But I agree, the M/S fluff is annoying. A Breadcrumb, maybe? While Pseudo's attacks on you don't look like bussing, your attacks on him do.
#452: Yeah, but why?
#464: Yeah, but WHY!? Why are you together, forming a team? btw, if you are scum, then you can pick some buddies out of three townies and say, "ooh, these guys are town."
#485: Protip: Do something, you lurking asshat.
#487: FUNNY!? you seemed to have made town-reads (for no reason, I'll add), and established

two

scum reads-- monk, and pseudo. But nice try.
#491: Since gilda technically didn't ask for WHY he had those town reads, this post is... okay, I guess. Still, just say who you replaced. you have the time &effort to be a jerk, why not type the names out? It'd take less time.
#494: Doesn't matter,
Because either way, all you were going to do was say monk was scum for the same thing. (#500.)

So, "Emphasis on RE-reading, genius." and then "What's the difference?"

#502: The difference is, if monk is really scum, then you'll have reads and reasons of your own. If you come to the same conclusion on your own, it's not really a sheep, is it?

Also, since you weren't finished "

RE

-reading, genius." because you "read threads several times." you weren't ready to throw out a vote, so the fact that you were "

RE

-reading" "is moot, bro."

chkflip is scum.

Whom did he replace, Friend, right? I'll look briefly at his ISO next.

Aha, see, Friend I like. his posts about monk had substance and were reasonable. He also got into a scuffle with whispersilk, which I don't mind. Friend might have been a misguided townie, but chkflip is scum. Also, Friend is a very good player, so, he could hide his scumminess better?
Freind's scum-reads: Pseudo, ThirdKoopa, Ashblade. (Bussing, bussing, redherring?)

Also, I dont' recall having used any ad hom, but thanks. Care to point it out to me?

[Whiskers]

What, specifically, is strawmanning, in that little case?

Isn't strawmanning where you take something that isn't an issue and make it an issue?

also, Killjoy-- Just No. for christ's sake, lynch chkflip. Don'tvote your townread.

That said, I almost started this post with a hemmer. I'm ready for the Day to be fucking OVER.

[Whiskers]

A "Straw man" argument (also called "setting up a straw man") involves mischaracterizing your opponent's position in order to present a weaker argument than they have actually given, thereby allowing you to defeat it. It usually involves subtle changes to the given facts of the matter, or minor changes to wording that lead to semantic differences in what is said.

Also, "Strawmanning" involves taking a small piece of the case someone has built up that is weaker than their other points and blowing it up. They can then defeat the weaker point and use that as 'proof' that everything that person has said is wrong.

If done skillfully, even the opponent will not realize what has gone wrong with their argument at first. In Mafia, this can give a Scummy player enough momentum to gain a lynch before anyone notices flaws in the new argument. If this is done in the Endgame, it can be a game-winning ploy. Otherwise, it is risky because many players may examine the argument anew during the Night phase, and find the holes in logic.

Dude, your case is straw-manning at best.

See also: whining about my ad hom and then ending with ad hom makes that entire post worthless. Stop fluffing the thread and come back when you actually have a case for me to defend, guy.

Chkflip remained scummy. What he did was scummy, no matter whether he was reading or re-reading. I'll go there next.
-------
chkflip ISO:
#444: Votes for no good reason.
#446: Buddying, putting heavier suspicion on monk for that thing which is a meh-tell.
#449: Nice one-liner, bro.

FoS

: chkflip
...but why no vote?
#451: Fluff? But I agree, the M/S fluff is annoying. A Breadcrumb, maybe? While Pseudo's attacks on you don't look like bussing, your attacks on him do.
#452: Yeah, but why?
#464: Yeah, but WHY!? Why are you together, forming a team? btw, if you are scum, then you can pick some buddies out of three townies and say, "ooh, these guys are town."
#485: Protip: Do something, you lurking asshat.
#487: FUNNY!? you seemed to have made town-reads (for no reason, I'll add), and established

two

scum reads-- monk, and pseudo. But nice try.
#491: Since gilda technically didn't ask for WHY he had those town reads, this post is... okay, I guess. Still, just say who you replaced. you have the time &effort to be a jerk, why not type the names out? It'd take less time.
#494: Doesn't matter,
Because either way, all you were going to do was say monk was scum for the same thing. (#500.)

So, "Emphasis on RE-reading, genius." and then "What's the difference?"

#502: The difference is, if monk is really scum, then you'll have reads and reasons of your own. If you come to the same conclusion on your own, it's not really a sheep, is it?

Also, since you weren't finished "

RE

-reading, genius." because you "read threads several times." you weren't ready to throw out a vote, so the fact that you were "

RE

-reading" "is moot, bro."

chkflip is scum.

Whom did he replace, Friend, right? I'll look briefly at his ISO next.

Aha, see, Friend I like. his posts about monk had substance and were reasonable. He also got into a scuffle with whispersilk, which I don't mind. Friend might have been a misguided townie, but chkflip is scum. Also, Friend is a very good player, so, he could hide his scumminess better?
Freind's scum-reads: Pseudo, ThirdKoopa, Ashblade. (Bussing, bussing, redherring?)

Also, I dont' recall having used any ad hom, but thanks. Care to point it out to me?

Uh-huh, uh-huh, and WHERE am I making a straw-man?

I'll wait.

[Whiskers]

You want a hammer? Fine.

unvote

Vote: Monk

There you go.

.________________________________________________________________________________________.


What? Why? What the-- What was that!?

[Whiskers]

Mod: Who is getting replaced?

Ashblade

[Whiskers]

Also,

Vote Count 2.5

Undecisive wieners are you.

Monk - Empking, chkflip, Hiraki,

Killjoy

, NS (L-1)
Killjoy - Ashblade (1)
Ashblade -

Killjoy

(1)
chkflip - Whiskers (1)
Not voting - like 2 people

Deadline in 3 days.

@chkflip: If I manage to find a replacement in 3 days, I will give you 3 more days. Otherwise, no.

[Whiskers]

You want a hammer? Fine.

unvote

Vote: Monk

There you go.

I demand an explanation.

[Whiskers]

Isn't that why monk was getting lynched?

[Whiskers]

Sigh:
White-knighting? Hi there, Appeal to Emotion-- Where am I white-knighting? Or are you just using another buzzword you learned in the wiki?

When was I ever "pro-town"? I'm not in your little group of pretend confirmed townies, remember? If you were town, I wouldn't be confirmed town to you, or anything.

Opinionated: The opinion being that you are playing scummily, and are therefore scum.
Exaggerated: Er, where? Again, you just point at my whole general gameplay and dismiss it as something. You're dismissing my case against you and then asking me why I haven't given you any arguments to disprove.

BE SPECIFIC.

Empking, you're no better.

[Whiskers]

I thought it was actually a hammer and it made me rage.

monk, can you explain how your trap (early on) worked? I never understood how Empking sprung it.

[Whiskers]

Whispersilk, Why?

Empking, make up new insults instead of just quoting your faves. Make up new ones or gtfo.

[Whiskers]

No, we mean poorly.

And usually, Empking, you put read lists that, while they lack any explanation whatsoever, they make sense and we all feel good about them. And they're generally right.

But now you're tunnelling on monk for really softcore things. Playstyle change noted, fos Empking. Why no lists?

[Whiskers]

GO AHEAD. POINT OUR SPECIFICALLY WHERE I'VE MADE A STRAWMAN. GO AHEAD. ONE MORE TIME.

COME AT ME, BRO. I HAVEN'T STRAWMANNED ONCE. COME AT ME.

VOTE HARDER: CHKFLIP

GIVE ME A REASON, BRO.

[Whiskers]

I'm not flailing at all. Address my points, then we'll talk.

[Whiskers]

Who is that an fos of then?

[Whiskers]

Again, Why!?

Vote: chkflip

[Whiskers]

I honestly laughed when your "proof" of my tunneling involved gap(s) of 200 posts.
I then laughed again when who tried to argue that my D1 suspicion of monk was opportunistic jumping on where the suspicion was.

Yeah you're caught scum.

Yeah, but not 200 of

yout

posts. Just becauase you only post once every three pages doesn't mean you weren't tunneling.

Is that post meant to be taken seriously after you've ignored both my posts and questions to you?

Seriously.

^This.

You need to answer these pronto, Kill.

[Whiskers]

Er, bussing is mandatory?
"I have already explained why I voted Monk. To prove Empking wrong and expose him as scum. Had I note voted, town would still be suck debating Monk's alignment. "
WE'd be there, but we'd still have a townie. Toward the end of the Dy, itlooked lkiike chkflip was gaining poplarity. You could have made a push for that wagon.

I don't think you are scum, necc. I think we should lynch chkflip, nd I will keep pushing that lynch until we do. That said, Killjoy, I don't agree with your read on me; I was apparently distancing? No, I had just found scum elsewhere, and my "not-sure" read on monk was not as strong as my scum case on chkflip. Emking is also scummy for pushing it, his hard pushes are usually right.

[Whiskers]

UNVOTE: Nobody Special
VOTE: Killjoy

Fail reaction-fish is fail. This guy, though? Caught scum.

omgus?

[Whiskers]

You know, if you bothered to play the game, I might not shun your responses.

Hey, hey, we should all just lurk until endgame. Give scum more kills, why bother playing? Hey, I better not say anything, I might get talked to/about.

Hiraki, what's your read on Killjoy, and why?

[Whiskers]

You said you were only sheeping Empking. Blame=shifted. I called you out for it.

Since when is it a good idea to sheep Empking?

Idr, but you got put in somepony's list of all townies either Empking or Hiraki. Or, wait, maybe you just declared that you were town too. What was it, Patriots? idr. This was me being jokey, but you, empking, and hiraki were not having responses or anything, you were eing bullshitters. I didn't "shun your serponses" because there wasn't any serious responses for me to shun. Thanks though.

Oh jesus, chkflip too?

In response to your, "Whiskers,, protip: post content" or w/e it was. I was hunning your responses? Hardly. You were shunnin g mine. I posted something, you said, "post content" I call you out on it, saying tht you weren't doing any better than I was.

chkflip, protip: post content.

Asking questions is a good way to find things out-- or, it is if you get answered. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, and saying, Oh, okay, I guess some payers might reread. I still don't understand this or this, though. Please explain it to me? and you didn't you just fucking out and out refused.

I still don't understand it. Okay, re-reading is a thing, maybe you should do it. Why though? Why don't you have any thoughts on your first read through? Why just a "blatant Empking sheep," if you've already read it?

Here are the posts you referenced. I'm hardly "shunning your responses" I'll keep shitting on your posts, though, see if I can balance all the shit upon a single line.

Appeal to emotion noted, bitch.

[Whiskers]

Here I am continuing to not be tame. Whyshould I be tame? You never said anything about me needing to be tame.

THERE'S THE KEYWORD> WHY IS IT A KEYWORD? WHAT ABOUT THIS WORD IS IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO BE KEY?

Thanks, I thought it was a nice try, too. I'm bored and using what I've got to either just, you know, annoy you, or, you know, force you to play.

[Whiskers]

GREAT RASONS WHISOERS.

[Whiskers]

*Great reasons, whisper.

[Whiskers]

The scumreads I had on him were only EpicMafia.com tells.
Since then he's committed some more. I don't really think he's scum, but I don't have the townie read on him that I did. I was actually about to hammer, until I saw there was another page-- and on that page, you unvoted him.

[Whiskers]

Sorry; I ISO'd him for a second to look at his most recent posts, and outside of context, his scumtells aren't-- y'all are making him look more scummy than he is.

That said, He is

does

look desperate.

[Whiskers]

Which is why you unvoted.

Whispersilk, have you ever played on EpicMafia.com?

[Whiskers]

Please address: What the people on EpicMafia are like.

I was actually looking through my ISO and Yours, and I can't tell where I figured out you were an EM player.

But I think that if you explain EM conditioning to whispersilk, she'll understand why you're playing the way you do.

[Whiskers]

That's odd. And maybe this is a personal difference. But I have found that the best defense is to present a stronger offense. Defending myself has kept me on the defensive and I end up getting lynched anyway.

What is the case against him again?

[Whiskers]

Town rolecops are not unheard of. Doesn't matter though-- his point is, "unless you have a guilty on me, which you don't, you've given no good reason to lynch me."
This could be taken as trying to out a cop, btw.

whispersilk, EpicMafia players like things done fast. If they get a role they don't like, they will quit the game. They are likely as not to be trolling. They favor breaking strategies, claims and counterclaims, secret daytalk to any player: "whisepering" claims and following the cop. They like nightstarts, making all the games swingy, because they don't scumhunt. EM conditions you. It's like a dumbed-down version of live Mafia.

N1: Vanilla Tonwie dies.
D1:
afia: Cop here. Guilty on Player A!
Cop: I cc! I have an inno.
Townies: Lynch the guilty!
Smart Townie: But we're in lylo.
Townies: Uh.. oh yeah! Lynch between Cop Claims!
2nd Mafia: Lynch player B! She claimed cop waaaay late!
Townies: Yeah!
*Lynches the cop*
Mafia wins, Game over! Player X Gets 56 points, Player Y gets 56 points.

[Whiskers]

Hiraki, you've been playing long enough to know that the best claim for any mafia is Vanilla Townie. Especially in a game with closed roles.

Especially

for a

new player!

[Whiskers]

Lol as much as you like, DeityKabuto tried to clear me once when--
I claimed VT at L-1. So DietyKabuto, who had been pushing the wagon the hardest, decided that "Why would scum claim VT?" and that I must be town. Absolute bullshit. I made him lynch me.

DK certainly has some flaws in his playstyle, but he doesn't sit on his ass and do

nothing

.

[Whiskers]

You know, of the bitch trio, Hiraki is the least of the offenders.

That said, it's still one of the bitch trio.

So I'm glad to be a lynch of him.

Vote: Chkflip

[Whiskers]

I was gonna vote Hiraki, but realized that chkflip is still the better lynch, and maybe the worst of the bitch trio, so.

[Whiskers]

You get scum vibes from NS's post because Hiraki refuses to give information that might clear you? Yeah, that's definitely scummy of NS, to want information that might keep him from a mislynch.

(*rolleyes* 9___9)

[Whiskers]

Who?
.___.

[Whiskers]

God damn it,

who

is "not voting"?

Wait, wait, nevermind, I just realized I can figure this out myself.

It's ashblade and... um...

...um....

pseudo?

[Whiskers]

I didn't know you needed replacements.

[Whiskers]

Bump. When is deadline?

[Whiskers]

Nice explanation, Silky. You no longer believe Hiraki to be scum?
Here, you should vote chkflip.

[Whiskers]

Yeah, I fully understand the sentiment of "safe than sorry." Votes is where it counts.

I'd vote emp if you want. He's the middle of the road bitch-trio offender. Hiraki is being a bitch, but he's also playing to his standard meta.

Can you bring me a case on Empking?
Actually, I'll go read his ISO, too. I bet I'll make a better case than you do, eh?

[Whiskers]

tunnels on monk. He gets it free for being in RVS.
Fights with you, whispersilk, defending his case on monk.

Then this,

I don't think this back and forth between you two will leak anymore information.

Which, iirc was a comment about Friend vs you-- so, chkflip's slot vs you. Defending his scumbuddy? Sure, I could see that. Chkflip is scum, so.

Says, "Yay, Hiraki is town!" I can't tell if this was sarcasm, or what shit. Now he's voting for Hirkai. Could there be a scumteam in the bitch-trio of Hiraki, Empking, and chkflip? That would be so cool.

monk.

defends his poor activity/avoiding the game.
btw, was his activity poor? Must have been, he defends this for a couple of posts.


Baaaaaaw, this is only 1/4 of the way into his ISO. I'll do this later.

[Whiskers]

Yay! Hikari is town.

Also, says this about Town Hiraki,

Sigh. Whiskers is confirmed town now.

But says this about Town Whiskers.
What?

[Whiskers]

Uh, how is it hypocritical? I think you don't know what that word means. It was a challenge, and guess what, after my 1/4 ISO of Empking, I was right, I

did

make a better case.

Vote: Empking

Can we lynch chkflip tomorrow? Why do I have to keep saying this? He should have been lynched already.

[preedit]
Great, whom are you planning on ignoring?

[Whiskers]

I'm not

trying

to make friends. I'm pissed off that the game has gotten to this point and that I had to start it back up. I'm pissed that chkflip hasn't been lynched yet. I'm pissed that we have three players trolling and that I'm the only player even slightly concerned about it.

whispersilk gets townpoints from me for helping me get the game back up and running.

[Whiskers]

No, Large games are slow and boring, not to mention that I can't usually even keep all the players straight in a 13-p game.
Killjoy, where do you like to play, if not Little Italy?

[Whiskers]

bus bus bus.

[Whiskers]

Empking, Ask "why" again, in a slightly different way.

And watch chkflip respond with a "oh, oh, sorry, gonna catchup" post, also slightly rephrased.

teehee.

[Whiskers]

Aw, ccccccombo breaker.

[Whiskers]

I want to think yes, too. Lurkers don't get lynched. Therefore, lurking benefits scum.

Furthermore, you're implying Empking isn't lurking?

Nopony Special, you're allowed to be ridiculous, stoopid even, but don't let it cloud your judgment.

[Whiskers]

*sobs quietly*

[Whiskers]

Vote Count 3.2

.5

"Life"

Killjoy - chkflip (1)
Empking - Hiraki, Killjoy,

Whiskers (3)

Hiraki -

Empking,

Nobody Special (2)


Not voting - Ashblade. Pseudo.

Whispersilk.

Let's have another, for the omgus of Empking against Hiraki that I just noticed when I was looking for this votecount.

With Nine votes in play, it takes Five to Lynch.

[Whiskers]

how does this happen.

Vote: Empking

auisitasuggjausjkkfskdmas

Unvote, Vote; Hi

Okay, sure. I looked. The votes are very far apart.

That said, I see no other reasoning.
We're out of RVS, so.
Omgus?

[Whiskers]

Sorry, I

thought

we were out of RVS.

Mod: Requesting deadline snip.

Maybe I'll poke a few of my comrades and see if they'll replace in here.

[Whiskers]

I'm not leaving you, I'm trying to get a deadline so that the game can start playing again.

[Whiskers]

right, sorry. I'm in another game that HAS no deadline.i guess in this game I just wanted to SHORTEN the deadline. <3

[Whiskers]

Looks like an L-some claim.

Why did you save th-- the

other

members of the bitch patrol.

[Whiskers]

Vote Count 3.2

.5

"Life"

Empking - Hiraki, Killjoy,

Whiskers (3)

Not voting - Ashblade. Pseudo.

Whispersilk.

With Nine votes in play, it takes Five to Lynch.

+chkflip, L-1
-Hiraki, L-2
+whispersilk, L-1.

Nobody Special, Hiraki currently off of this wagon.

[Whiskers]

Lynch Chkflip tomorrow.

Believe me, I'm trying.

[Whiskers]

Does it matter? More importantly, who did you Doctor on Night Two, the when there was no Nightkill?

[Whiskers]

apparently not?

[Whiskers]

You see this is a problem, Empking. Why? Because I am the doctor. Yes. This is a counterclaim, you are a liar.

I protected Monk both nights, so much for that when you fickers forced my hand to lynch him.

Vote vote vote Empking.

Yeah, here it is.

chkflip

[Whiskers]

Monk & Friend

Vote: Kill

Nice reasoning.

Any reason?

Not really. Gut.

Mute thoughts on Killjoy?
Killjoy thoughts on Mute?

Oh goodness.

Unvote, Vote: Monk

How cleared is Killjoy?
There is enough stuff to make a case on chkflip based solely Empking talking and bussing (some of that is included up there).
I want to talk a little bit about Killjoy though, because he

didn't

die. Wifom-- scum. He might very well have saved monk, as the second Night, there was no kill. Wifom, town. Empking is more than capable of throwing out a dying bus to make Killjoy look more town. Wifom scum.
I just wondered. I've seen games lost because of clever scum bullshit. Actually, I am responsible for a game I lost where the other players and I somehow made a scum our clear.

That said, fos is on Pseudo.

[Whiskers]

Also Pseudonymous seems to be continually flying under the radar. Why isn't there more pressure on this dude?

We haven't got to him yet. Simple as that.

Ah, fos on Pseudo because of this. Very weak.

[Whiskers]

I made a case. Nice one, though.


Killjoy, whyyyyy did you ask that? Unless he was hinting that he was scum that nokilled, he was hinting a powerrole. Unnecessarily. Nobody Special, whyyyy did you reveal like that?
Now that you are out, who did you block that night?

[Whiskers]

Whiskers, I asked because he already made it painfully obvious that he might be something.
Regardless, our JK/Cop should have some god damn results for us tomorrow.

Yeah, I don't know why he did that. If there is a cop, It's probably in whispersilk or one of the lurkers. I looked at Ashblade and he's pretty talky for a cop.

Anyway, Chk, your iso shows the buddying and near identical play as Empking who was a godfather, which is a pretty safe move IMO.

You remember the post where you said "me, Hiraki, Empking, and Nobody Special" ? Ya. That's happening.

But, Hiraki flipped town.

[Whiskers]

For some reason, I thought we had already hammered you.

"Never really gave a shit about this game because a fair amount of you are beyond a hassle to have to deal with mentally"
What hypocrisy. You were an asshole since you replaced in. If you can't handle the heat, why the hell did you take on this game in the first place?

[Whiskers]

Hm, here's your special explanation.

If you don't like my playstyle, comment on it. If there's something you don't like, let me know. I won't change just for you if I don't know I'm supposed to.
If you're not having fun, it doesn't make it fair to ruin the fun of others. Worst case scenario? Replace out.
I've seen nothing about these players that is unbearable-- aside from the dickishness that you portrayed, as did Empking, to a lesser extent, as did Hiraki. But Empking and Hiraki were playing standard to their meta. They are always like that. You? I have no meta on. I don't see the town-motivation, and it turns out it was actually all just bad-sport motivation?

[Whiskers]

Chkflip, why is Killjoy obvscum.
Or, rather,

is

Killjoy still obvscum?

[Whiskers]

Okay, well, up until very recently, he said you were obvscum.
I want to know why he changed his mind.

Killjoy, why do you think NS isn't what he claims?

[Whiskers]

Nobody, what did you mean by your "might not be a doc" comment? Scum no-killing?

You've heard, perhaps, of roleblocker?

He did claim.


Also, I fos Pseudo, but the scum has to be one of the active players, since somepony would have had to have sent in the kill. Ashblade and Pseudo are both replaced out.

[Whiskers]

Okay: Noponyspecial, whom did you Roleblock?

[Whiskers]

And then it was later.

Nobody Special, whom did you use your roleblock on?

VOTE: Nobody Special

[Whiskers]

Still Alive for whatever reason:

1. monk*
4.

Mute

Nobody Special
7. Ashblade*
8.

Friend

chkflip
9. Whispersilk*
10. Whiskers*
11. Pseudonymous
12. Killjoy*

Monk is dead, so with Seven votes in play, it should be Four To Lynch, correct?

Yeah, forgot to cross 'em out

NS: L-1
Ashblade: Seeking Replacement.
chkflip: suddenly active and coherent.
Whispersilk: consistent.
Whiskers: me.
Pseudo: seeking replacement.
Killjoy: Results may vary. Scum-ish, but nulltown to me until he fake claimed doc.

Mer:
First thing:
"Es ist Nacht"

Ich habe die Ende absichtlich falsch geschrieben. Ich bin nicht so dumm, wie du vielleicht denkst.

Second thing:
Monk is dead. Please update First post and Votes To Lynch accordingly? <3

[Whiskers]

We only have five active players, it will take all of us, except NS, to lynch NS.

[Whiskers]

Jailkeeper is stronger than a roleblocker.
A jailkeeper+cop would be stronger than a roleblocker+cop.

Wait, why do we think there's a cop, again? Did we have a copflip?

[Whiskers]

Did we have a godfather flip?

Ah, and godfather can be put in to make scum think there's a cop. Like, wifom. Make them look for coptells and stuff.
I'm familiar with the idea, I've just never seen it done.

[Whiskers]

Does that mean something?

[Whiskers]

Sorry, let me rephrase that:
If none of us have anything useful to contribute (Look at NS's last post, for example), I'm prepared to hammer. The deadline is Three Weeks (total) and while maybe we should wait for replacement, I'm bored.

I am prepared to hammer.

[Whiskers]

13 November -

One After the Other

Moderator:

Meransiel

Status:

Day 4

Replacing:

Ashblade and Pseudonymous.


This actually has needed replacements for a long, long time. I don't know if Mer posted here, but he probably did it in the wrong format.

I

think

that THIS is the right format, but I'm not sure.

[Whiskers]

Prod: The MOD

We haven't even had a votecount yet today, and you want to hammer??!?


On checking, the Mod hasn't been here for over 10 days. I'm willing to call this abandoned.

Oh, idfk whatever.
I'm obviously holding off hammering.


Other than the fact that we need a mod for the game to progress, why are you stalling your lynch? All the other (active) players are voting you. I'm ready to finish the Day, to lynch you (you're being unhelpful, not trying to defend yourself or attack anypony else). We don't need a votecount, really, you're at L-1.

So, NS, why stall

NOW

?