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[DemonHybrid]

/confirm

[DemonHybrid]

Vote: Timeater

and this is completely serious. 22 is so fucking terribad.

did you really think that was anything BUT starting conversation? oh, you didn't, because you're trying to pin blame on him when the game didn't even leave page fucking 1.

[DemonHybrid]

Uphill is town but Katty gets a solid null because I've seen players of both alignments go "oh, derp, what the fuck is this vote" with no other words, explanations or questions in RVS, but they never took it as far as timeater did

[DemonHybrid]

Timeeater and Katty fighting sounds more like a townie fight to me at the moment. Dunno.

VOTE: el_simo for old-times sake

My vote isn't going to stay on el_simo, just wanted to pick on him a bit as we ran into each other in our last game

unvote

Unvote, Vote: treznor

. yuck. Go ahead, timeater, you can bus him.

Redtail, 22 is terrible because it simply made a mountain out of a molehill by someone starting discussion. For god sakes, they even said "I'm trying to get this person lynched" their -second post in the game-. it's completely obvious that they were just trying to kickstart the game and timeater took it too far. That's not just "aggression".

[DemonHybrid]

Pedit: lol DH @ 22 - Uphill's overly formal wordage reads to me like naive politician. I dont like it.

Did you know that he was just trying to start discussion, yes or no, nothing else

[DemonHybrid]

that's the point I'm trying to make. who the fuck cares about his "overly formal wordage", even though I don't believe he had "overly formal wordage" and I'm not sure why that's supposed to make him scummy. I don't think "I'm trying to lynch someone" is "overly formal wordage"

[DemonHybrid]

I care.

Why? Because its indicative of someone trying to hard.

uh, no. but whatever you say.

Timeater doesn't look any more town with his push on treznor. simple as that.

Offtopic post of awesome: Hi, DH! Do you remember me? We played awhile ago in a game with Slaxx and el simo. (In case you didn't see it from my wall of text, I'm Retrospective)

oh hai. yeah, I remember, but not from the hydra name

[DemonHybrid]

DH, Why do you think Time is scum over Katty?

Katty asked why Uphill voted who he did and why in RVS. she didn't freak the fuck out like timeater did.

Wow this game has taken off quick. Anywho...

Timeater reads town - aggressive but that's all good.
Treznor reads nub-null / null-scum - opinions are swayed very easy. backing down very quickly. can't handle pressure either becuase new or scum and doesn't want confrontation.
Odysseus reads town - generally nice amount of information for so early on. May need to check his meta later (fill me in if you know)
redtail reads null - why did you unvote someone with only your vote on him (and mine from RVS but who cares) - no harm leaving it there until you have someone else to vote for?
Soben reads town - you seem nice.
Uphill reads town - not much to say here.

Anyone else needs to make a bigger impression.

I'll be back on in hour or so

Also should chuck this in UNVOTE: VOTE: Treznor
Wassup son?

Filmsy analysis is my meta.

wait, what

Unvote, Vote: ScreamingHawk

UNVOTE:

I've had a migraine all day, so this is going to be very brief and incomplete.

In the current climate, my vote is indeed terrible. My reasoning was that he just straight-up said, "I'm trying to get this person lynched." That doesn't translate into RvS OR generating discussion to me, so I didn't like it. And, as somebody already speculated (sorry, I forget who it was in my skim-through) at the time it was all I had. When I feel better, I'll read deeper into the game and provide a stronger defense than this.

Also, the hypothesis that I'm a semi-weak player but with SOME experience is correct. I've completed a whopping three games off-site and am currently in a fourth.

Okay, katty is more town.

Joined : October 19, 2011

look at that reg date

just look at it

[DemonHybrid]

But timeater's slot is still scum. Uphill is town and I agree on the treznor town too. terrible at RVS but he picked things up. plus, there are much more scummy people jumping onto that wagon so

[DemonHybrid]

Katty Bard: 2, I am still just as confident in this read as I was at game start. I've made my case on her and I've been frustrated by what little feedback I've gotten from it. I'm tempted to repost it here without quotes just so you guys have to read it again. Here's the link: viewtopic.php?p=3542195#p3542195 PLEASE tell me what you think and if you agree, vote her already.

okay no

[DemonHybrid]

odysseus

- Why did you fake double voter?

IGMEOY

why is a faked action indicative of scummy?

[DemonHybrid]

DH, I don't feel like him saying flimsy analysis is my meta warrants a vote at all.

Also, this is only my third game on this site so join date/experience doesn't have much to do with alignment.

it wasn't just the "flimsy analysis" meta, it was the weak ass hop onto the treznor wagon and the one line reads

screaminghawk + timeater + lurker. it is NOT katty bard and I don't know why you're so obsessed with that read

[DemonHybrid]

I did post why.

I think you're giving more credit to IIoA than is necessary, I don't think she meant it and I don't think she was anywhere near knowledgeable about what she was saying

read 114 (which you've failed to do) and get back to me about what you think

Soben: I can do an ISO of timeater if you'd like, I'll be right back with that

[DemonHybrid]

So whats up with that vote, Uphill?

acceptable RVS behavior

Vote: Uphill

"Trying to get Soben lynched" - Why? What for?

NOT ADMITTING JUST WAGONING

"What's not up with your vote?"

"OH LOOK AT ME I HAVE A VOTE AND YOU DONT, HO HO HO" weak deflection indicative of non-town motivations

"It's better than no lynch" - What the fuckmuffins?

noobscum caught, who's next?

unacceptable

how anyone can seriously take uphill's declaration of a straight up lynch as gospel clearly has other motivations other than getting out of RVS. and he still pushes him to this day so

"UPHILL IS TOWN"

TALK ABOUT PULLING TOWNREADS OUT OF YOUR ASS

and he doesn't even see the motivation behind what uphill was posting in the least. can't even see why uphill would be a town read. he just simply wants to go full throttle and lynch "DAT GUY WHO'S TRYING TO RVS LYNCH SOMEONE SO SCUMMY OHHHH"

Are you serious with this?

You guys are seriously seeing this as noobtown and not noobscum?

this ties in with my katty read

vote: treznor

random vote outside of the RVS

utterly non-comittal with reads or contributions

at first I thought this was a bus but he continues to make flimsy cases on townies

What do you think of Katty Bard, treznor?

and a random question on a player

come to think of it, this does make me feel a little weird about Katty but I'd have to rethink that if timeater died and flipped X alignment.

I'd also like to note Treznor just powerlurked out of the game. Scum.

um no.

I care.

Why? Because its indicative of someone trying to hard. And you can think what you want, thats my read. Naive was the wrong word, more like "inexperienced politician".

and he still didn't explain how he had "overly formal wordage". this is quite honestly the most bullshit reason. language is not indicative of alignment in the least. it's actions, utility and involvement.

he then gives a bunch of flimsy reads before ragequitting

Oh, and this

Only an inexperienced player would think an earlygame page one vote would lead to an actual lynch

lol

his ragequit is null. I've seen plenty of ragequits from either alignment but it's a face save in this case

Preview edit: gotchya. I keep grouping IGMEOY's in with FoS's.

[DemonHybrid]

Oh, I remember Vegas mafia. I just don't believe meta really matters. he pushed uphill and got caught, and kept with it. and it was bullshit. and he tried to make it look town. simple as that.

we'll see how his replacement does, but I'm not expecting a very town showing. right now my vote is on SH regardless.

[DemonHybrid]

Bad timing, but

V/LA until 10/30

. Going away for the weekend. Will post when I get back or if I find time during the weekend.

[DemonHybrid]

I'm on site, but I'm doing things and I'll be back later to post. From what I've skimmed, people are waiting on reads from me, but I haven't quite yet read everything since I left for the weekend.

[DemonHybrid]

yeah, sorry. I've been in a rut in all my games. I know this game is waiting for my reads, but I haven't been in the mood to read lately.

I'm going to give simple town to scum reads. I have work to do and I can't elaborate in wall posts.

Town: Uphill - This has not changed. He hasn't posted for a block of time but the RVS interactions with others really solidified this read for me.
Odysseus - I could go more into this read, but possibly when it becomes relevant. He's scumhunting like crazy and possibly harder than anyone else in this game.
Soben - Again, he seems to be very proactive. Makes great points.
treznor - I didn't like the huge push on treznor and I honestly think he's town with one or multiple scum on his wagon. Had a terrible RVS phase just like before, but is legitimately scumhunting.
bionicchop - Also a solid town read. Multiple pushes on different players. Was quiet in the early game but has really shown through when things picked up.
Katty Bard - I still don't see the scum read on her from Odysseus. I don't get why it's more of a scum indication than a town one, but whatever you say.

Null:
redtail - From what I remember, he isn't posting as much as he once did. I'm not saying this is a definite indicator of alignment but he isn't the most town. He's had a weird posting history and I'm unsure of his hop onto ScreamingHawk.
el_simo - I'm just flat out null on him. I can't really say much more about him at this point in time. Yeah, underwhelming. I know.
Timeater/FightingShadow - FS really saved this read, but I'm still not going to call this slot town after Timeater's RVS play. I'm not sure who it was, either Soben or Odysseus, but whoever made the point about meta may be right. I can't tell for right no.

Scum:
Gen_Wolf - Awful, awful posts. Just seems to be keeping up when opportune.
ScreamingHawk - I don't believe the claim. Others have been making good points against him. It's the biggest wagon. He's lurky and on the defensive. Just no.
Yonzy - "yeah, let me ask a bunch of questions and make a lot of sporadic, random reads! oh, and a useless vote!"
He voted yet didn't push a wagon on me. Definitely not sure of his read no matter how much he says he is and it doesn't seem genuine. Fuck that.

I'm sticking with my SH vote. Hammer when ready.

sorry that these reads are completely underwhelming, but I'm not posting in any of my games lately. I'm swamped with work and personal problems.

I'll be more proactive Day 2 but I just can't get into mafia lately.

[DemonHybrid]

Too much power for town at one time. Too many confirmable roles. /shrug