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Post Post #3 (isolation #0) » Thu Aug 21, 2003 4:43 am

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Post Post #4 (isolation #1) » Thu Aug 21, 2003 4:46 am

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... Depends. Are we talking about an African or European swallow?
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Post Post #25 (isolation #2) » Fri Aug 22, 2003 3:20 am

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Bane221 actually confirmed in the Free Market thread. Don't know if you count that, though.
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Post Post #47 (isolation #3) » Thu Aug 28, 2003 7:48 am

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Quagmire wrote:.....In English, please?
Deadline for night choices: Saturday 9pm.

But I must say, having problems there Macros? Spilled something on your keyboard... typing in the dark... ??? It can be tough to decipher those typos sometimes.
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Post Post #68 (isolation #4) » Mon Sep 01, 2003 4:02 am

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Wacky wrote:Its in the script and you can get the script readily.
It's also in the
Movie
. You have seen the movie, right? If you haven't seen the movie, you really should. The script just isn't the same.

So, anyone actually have a lead? Is it going to be a random voting kind of day?
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Post Post #74 (isolation #5) » Tue Sep 02, 2003 3:05 am

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Macros wrote:vote counts (terribly slow and random :()
Well, it was a holiday weekend. I'm sure things will pick up now.
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Post Post #91 (isolation #6) » Thu Sep 04, 2003 3:51 am

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mathcam wrote:People not voting...what exactly are you waiting for? Someone to jump out and proclaim they're a baddie
*shrug* Kinda...

I'm not a big fan of random votes, but I guess the game has to get moving. Usually by now, someone has presented themselves in a suspicious enough manner to warrant a real vote, but seeing as I have yet to notice that anywhere, I am reduced to:
Random Vote: Leonidas


(I must note, the random was actually just on people who already had votes. We have to start somewhere...)
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Post Post #93 (isolation #7) » Thu Sep 04, 2003 4:14 am

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Leonidas wrote:Hmm.
I am flattered to be promoted to the equal of God by our 'random' vote (2 votes), which conveniently draws attention away from you - since you had one yourself.
Yes, quite conveniently. Here's a little "secret" information for you. I even left my name out of the random! How devious of me...
Mwah ha ha haaa
(*cue thunder strike*)
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Post Post #111 (isolation #8) » Sat Sep 06, 2003 4:04 am

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mole wrote:I would argue that bandwagonning someone for no reason gets us nowhere (unless you're playing "claim a role", bleh). Especially if everyone on the bandwagon uses exactly the same excuse. :)
I agree with this. Just one question, how do we get a reason to bandwagon? From my experience, we get that reason by seeing how others bandwagon. So, it is kind of a necessary evil (unless a cop wants to come out on Day 1 -- not a good idea). We need people to bandwagon so we can see a reason to bandwagon someone. Sort of a "chicken and the egg" philosophical mafia question.
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Post Post #130 (isolation #9) » Mon Sep 08, 2003 12:23 pm

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Sorry, folks. I don't see what the whole God thing is about. He hasn't done anything suspicious enough to warrant these votes. I dunno, maybe the game is going along slow and we need to go somewhere, but I still do not see an attractive candidate for lynching. *shrug*

I will
Unvote: Leonidas
since it was just a random to see if any discussion could get started and I don't see anything overly suspicious in how he responded to it. If there is something I am missing on God, please inform me. For now, it just looks like there is a group who is picking on him without cause.
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Post Post #134 (isolation #10) » Mon Sep 08, 2003 2:38 pm

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I read that post the first time. Still don't agree with you.
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Post Post #145 (isolation #11) » Wed Sep 10, 2003 12:53 am

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Night Stalker wrote:For that matter, if the Bridge Keeper is in the game, maybe he could work that way. It's wonderful to imagine the mafia targeting someone, only to get a riddle they have to answer in return from the mod...
Except we'd all know the answer. :P
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Post Post #148 (isolation #12) » Wed Sep 10, 2003 3:36 am

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The Legendary Black Beast of Aaaauuugh!!!
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Post Post #152 (isolation #13) » Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:40 am

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I don't know, mathcam. The Black Beast just swallowed them whole. The bunny
did
take some heads clean off, too. I think the bunny is the right idea here.

On a related note: Killer Rabbit
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Post Post #158 (isolation #14) » Thu Sep 11, 2003 4:41 am

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No problem. It's just too cute. If you see one in a store, be sure to read the box... even the bottom. I see they have a GIANT one now. It's a bit pricey, though.
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Post Post #175 (isolation #15) » Mon Sep 15, 2003 4:55 am

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Due to the imminent deadline, and lack of reasoning to go on, I will
Vote: God
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Post Post #187 (isolation #16) » Mon Sep 15, 2003 2:50 pm

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rite wrote:
bane221 wrote:Regardless of the stigmata associated with trying to move things along
Eh, I'm thinking you mean stigma, there, buddy :wink:
While stigma would be the preferred choice, stigmata works just fine. Stigma is the root word of stigmata, and actually, stigmata is more the plural form of stigma than anything. Here's even a definition for you:
The Dictionary wrote:stig·ma
n. pl. stig·ma·ta (stg-mät, -mt, stgm-) or stig·mas
A mark or token of infamy, disgrace, or reproach
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Post Post #207 (isolation #17) » Mon Sep 22, 2003 3:05 am

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Day 2 and no real leads. But I guess we're doing pretty good since we're already down three baddies. I just don't care much for random voting, especially after Day 1. I guess for the sake of getting things moving, I'll join in on the Leonidas thing. I agree he has been lurking a little much. But in his defense, we haven't had much worth discussing, yet. *shrug*

Vote: Leonidas


That's tentative, of course. If some interesting discussion starts I'll certainly unvote.
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Post Post #210 (isolation #18) » Mon Sep 22, 2003 3:42 am

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I'm not sure I believe your plan, mathcam. But it certainly couldn't hurt to give it a shot.

Unvote: Leonidas
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Post Post #215 (isolation #19) » Mon Sep 22, 2003 3:55 am

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What meant to say is that I don't buy into the two heads arguing part. Not that it matters, just thought it was unlikely. The plan itself is fine, though. So, who is going to be responsible for keeping the vote list? :P
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Post Post #251 (isolation #20) » Wed Sep 24, 2003 4:47 am

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I totally agree with everything mathcam just said.

Vote: Loose Cannon
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Post Post #254 (isolation #21) » Wed Sep 24, 2003 5:47 am

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I think I'll go for a walk.


I feel happy! I feel happy!
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Post Post #261 (isolation #22) » Thu Sep 25, 2003 1:07 am

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Idiom, sir?

Unvote: Loose Cannon


"I'll-uh... I'll just stay here, then... shall I, sir? Yeah."
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Post Post #296 (isolation #23) » Tue Sep 30, 2003 1:18 pm

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...Polotet's replacement.
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Post Post #299 (isolation #24) » Tue Sep 30, 2003 1:42 pm

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korais666 wrote:Forget I said anything.


Done.
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Post Post #301 (isolation #25) » Wed Oct 01, 2003 10:49 am

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Nope.
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Post Post #308 (isolation #26) » Fri Oct 03, 2003 5:06 am

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I gotta agree with mathcam. I don't want us to get too distanced from this game to continue it if/when there is ever a replacement. And, hey, if a replacement shows up in time, we can just unvote and move on.

Vote: Polotet
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Post Post #311 (isolation #27) » Fri Oct 03, 2003 8:51 am

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I see your point Dragon Slayer.

Too bad we can't get a replacement. That would make it a lot simpler.
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Post Post #323 (isolation #28) » Mon Oct 06, 2003 12:58 am

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Unvote: Polotet
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Post Post #358 (isolation #29) » Wed Oct 15, 2003 9:26 am

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From what I can gather, the French got Leonidas and the two heads took out Wacky. Just a guess, though.
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Post Post #369 (isolation #30) » Thu Oct 16, 2003 9:03 am

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I really doubt we'd gain anything from another vote/unvote session.

But to get it out of the way,
Vote: mathcam Unvote:mathcam
. Yep, I can vote alright.
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Post Post #374 (isolation #31) » Fri Oct 17, 2003 6:46 am

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In interest of moving things along, here is a remark from the beginning of the game to ponder:
bane221 wrote:That does seem like a bit much, could the three-header be something else perhaps? Maybe less evil? I mean, they were, or almost were, kind of helpful in the movie...
Seems a bit like he was trying to paint them as being pro-town. And even in the movie they were certainly not. Granted, it isn't much, but we have nothing else at this point. (Well, except for the God thing, but as much as I dislike random voting on Day 1, it's even worse on Day 4.)

I will continue to scour the first couple days for more clues...
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Post Post #377 (isolation #32) » Sat Oct 18, 2003 8:54 am

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Yeah, something is up with him.

Vote: mole
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Post Post #381 (isolation #33) » Sun Oct 19, 2003 12:38 pm

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Then that is your error. I read the entire aforementioned discussion. Just because I chose not to quote two pages it doesn't mean I didn't take note of it. The error here is that you don't remember the movie well enough to have this sort of an arguement. After viewing it again, you will notice that the three-headed knight is anything but helpful; and therefore, you will see my point in the above quote. It was not taken out of context and I didn't misinterepret what you were trying to say.
bane221 wrote:If someone wants to give us a refresher on their major contributions to the movie, evil, good, or otherwise, that'd be helpful too.
Good

Knights of the Round Table (King Arther, Sir Lancelot, Sir Robin, Sir Gallahad, Sir Bedevere, Sir Not-Appearing-In-This-Film)
Concorde
Patsy
Sir Robin's Minstrels
Prince Herbert
Tim (the Enchanter)Brother Maynard
Narrator

Evil

Three-headed Knight
Black Knight
French Guards
Black Beast of Aaauuuggh
Harmless Bunny

???

Bridge Keeper
Knights Who Say "Ni!"
Castle Anthrax (Zoot, Dingo)
Dennis
Witch
Roger (the Shrubber)

By no means is this a definitive list, but I think it's a good start.
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Post Post #384 (isolation #34) » Mon Oct 20, 2003 2:17 am

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Werebear wrote:*slowly and patiently*

We. Have. Had. What. Appears. To. Be. Three. Killing. Groups.
*slower and more patiently*

It. Was. A. Response. To. Bane221. Above.

Please read the whole post. I mean, I quoted and everything. If it doesn't have anything to do with you, ignore it and move on. You don't have to respond to everything as if it was directed to you, you know?
bane221 wrote:So your suspicion resulted from the fact that I questioned their evil when it was apparent? That makes sense.
At least you understand now. Hey, I didn't even vote or FOS you. I just thought it was interesting. But it's not solid enough to really worry about it.
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Post Post #385 (isolation #35) » Mon Oct 20, 2003 2:19 am

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I wrote:
Good

Tim (the Enchanter)Brother Maynard
Narrator
I wrote that in a hurry. Couple of errors there. That should be:

Tim (the Enchanter)
Brother Maynard
Historian

Don't know why I put narrator.
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Post Post #387 (isolation #36) » Mon Oct 20, 2003 3:49 am

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mathcam wrote:Get annoyed with Bane all you want, Fishbulb, but Werebear was making a very valid point. Even if it wasn't addressed to him, all he was saying was that an improved list would be:

Cam
Ugh... Not you, too?

Please pay attention here.

I was not annoyed with bane221, that is just plain false. Werebear made a valid point, but it was in direct response to what I posted. Which was in response to bane asking (here's the important part)
on characters allegience
specifically
in the
movie
.
Got it that time? Not with what is happening in this game; just about from the movie.

Obviously, since Zoot hasn't been hacking people up, we can assume she is pro-town in this game. However, taking a character study from the movie, you could not say she was
good
. Sorry I didn't preface it with
only bane look here
. Hopefully I will not forget such a warning in the future.
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Post Post #388 (isolation #37) » Mon Oct 20, 2003 4:25 am

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We still haven't heard from
mole
. I think he's avoiding us...
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Post Post #390 (isolation #38) » Mon Oct 20, 2003 4:42 am

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Right right... Like I said, it's partly my fault that I didn't spell it out clearer. And the
???
was probably a bad choice. I should've put
other
in compliance with the original bane request. I think it's safe to say that we don't have the Black Beast or Black Knight (since we've seen no deaths), but it is also safe to say that no one in their right mind would claim either of them as well. So my list isn't a complete digression from this game, either.
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Post Post #392 (isolation #39) » Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:24 am

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That's particularly odd since he has posted several times in other games recently.
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Post Post #397 (isolation #40) » Tue Oct 21, 2003 8:34 am

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Unvote: mole
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Post Post #402 (isolation #41) » Tue Oct 21, 2003 4:03 pm

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Yeah, mathcam wasn't pushing to lynch a lurker, just to vote to either get them talking, or replaced. You can expect to do it every once in a while if it's a big game. It's just too tempting for scum to not get involved in any discussion if they can get away with it. And then, if they did abandon us, we can get a replacement sooner so they are more involved. It's pretty much a win-win situation. Hopefully, in the future it will no longer be a necessity, but until then...
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Post Post #416 (isolation #42) » Thu Oct 23, 2003 2:18 am

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Well, I was responsible for bringing up the bane comment. While I am inclined to believe he was honest when he said that he didn't remember the movie, I still have that nagging doubt, and with lack of a better choice:

Vote: bane221
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Post Post #430 (isolation #43) » Fri Oct 24, 2003 11:29 am

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Agreed, but we've already been over that. Hence the (somewhat baseless) bane221 bandwagon. Nobody really has any information or even guesses to anyone else being suspicious. It's like Day 1 all over again.
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Post Post #448 (isolation #44) » Sun Oct 26, 2003 11:23 am

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Unvote: bane221


It doesn't sound very pro-town, but it doesn't sound evil either.
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Post Post #456 (isolation #45) » Mon Oct 27, 2003 6:38 am

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Roger the Shrubber... He arranges, designs, and sells shrubberies.

"Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can 'Ni' at will to old ladies. There is a pestilence upon this land, nothing is sacred. Even those who arrange and design shrubberies are under considerable economic stress at this period in history."
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Post Post #463 (isolation #46) » Tue Oct 28, 2003 3:26 am

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I don't know, massive. In most games I would agree, but this one has been vacant of any real discussions most of the time. The majority of the people here are doing just what you are saying, but it's not because of scumminess, it's just because no one is giving up any info.
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Post Post #484 (isolation #47) » Fri Oct 31, 2003 3:34 am

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I still don't buy the argument against Night Stalker, but I got nothing else.

*shrug*
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Post Post #486 (isolation #48) » Fri Oct 31, 2003 6:21 am

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What we need is for Night Stalker to claim so we can either finish him off or move on.

I'll add my vote if there isn't a claim soon.
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Post Post #491 (isolation #49) » Sat Nov 01, 2003 10:23 am

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I believe him. And it will be obvious he is lying if we get a different type of kill.
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Post Post #503 (isolation #50) » Tue Nov 04, 2003 8:47 am

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Actually, I was already contemplating a No Lynch. I was trying to figure out if it would hurt the town in this position, but if we don't go after Night Stalker, then I doubt we'll have enough time to do anything else but a No Lynch.
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Post Post #510 (isolation #51) » Wed Nov 05, 2003 2:54 am

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I'm torn. I think the town could benefit from keeping Night Stalker alive, but it's either that or No Lynch, and that wouldn't give us
any
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I guess bane221 has a point, it seems like something is missing from Night Stalker's claim, and it very well might be something that we wouldn't like.

Vote: Night Stalker
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Post Post #524 (isolation #52) » Tue Nov 11, 2003 8:59 am

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"What are you gonna do, bleed on me?"

So, there
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Post Post #551 (isolation #53) » Fri Nov 14, 2003 6:29 am

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Well, let's take a look at that, shall we?

Last posts for players left:

Oct 27 - massive

Nov 03 - Thoth
Nov 04 - Bane221
Nov 04 - God2
Nov 06 - Rite
Nov 11 - Fishbulb
Nov 12 - Darkblade
Nov 12 - Night Stalker
Nov 12 - Orbiting
Nov 13 - Dragon Slayer
Nov 13 - Loose Cannon
Nov 13 - Saigon
Nov 13 - Wearbear
Nov 14 - mathcam

Looks like we do have a few stragglers back there. Enough to warrant some votes? Dunno, but I would like them to speak up.
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Post Post #559 (isolation #54) » Fri Nov 14, 2003 10:30 am

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I don't think so.

Reason 1: No one really fits that profile. Look at my list, no serious lurking there, except maybe massive, but he's already shown up anyway.

Reason 2: They had to agree in the first place, right? I think now they can talk and could probably forego the agreeing part.

Reason 3: Macros would've probably replaced them over night if the active head couldn't get a response from the inactive one.

Reason 4: It could possibly just be that it is a different type of blocker than the one before.

Reason 5: It could also be because mikehart died at the same time.
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Post Post #574 (isolation #55) » Mon Nov 17, 2003 3:42 am

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Thoth wrote:What can say is that in my opinion NS is 90% sure to be innocent. There just is no real room for the black knight as another killing role.
Maybe you were 90% sure he was innocent, but I was 40%, and that's 10% less than everyone else in my book.

The issue wasn't so much whether the Black Knight was killing or not, but that Night Stalker was scum covering up by grabbing a role he didn't think was in the game, but that he could turn good. At least in my thinking. It just seemed like a stretch. But even now, just because he hasn't killed yet doesn't mean he isn't evil. Maybe he's hoping to make it to endgame before taking us out. His claim wouldn't mean squat if someone had died by him earlier.

But I am in agreement that we need to look elsewhere for a lynch today. A vigilante might be able to take him out in one shot, or at least help us out. I'm sure they are itching for a target.
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Post Post #576 (isolation #56) » Mon Nov 17, 2003 4:13 am

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mathcam wrote:it really seems like the Black Knight had to be in the game, especially with the presence of the Green Knight.
Uhh, mathcam. The Green Knight wasn't in this game. That was a scum's fake roleclaim... Hmmm... And what a coincidence.

Vote: mathcam
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Post Post #579 (isolation #57) » Mon Nov 17, 2003 6:32 am

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Saigon wrote:Well I might agree that Mathcam deserved that, but forgetting exactly what happened a month ago isn't exactly suspicious.
I would say so. If you are innocent, you would be more likely to keep track of roleclaims and, really, any notable happenings from the beginning of the game. Also, it is good practice to read the thread every so often to find anything missed. However, scum aren't out looking for the suspicious. And it shows that mathcam hasn't done his homework. Sure, it's not proof, but too much of a connection for me. Also, it was a major point in his vote for me. After disproven, wouldn't that deserve and unvote or at least some more of an explanation on his vote?
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Post Post #583 (isolation #58) » Mon Nov 17, 2003 7:03 am

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Saigon wrote:So, that must make me extremely suspicious for not remembering who roleclaimed Concorde.
No, mostly because you weren't here when it happened. And, because I didn't think you were suspicious before. Yes, you should try to read the whole thread, but I wouldn't hold it against you. With mathcam, he was here when it happened. And, I'm pretty sure mathcam said he keeps notes in his games. I believe that would be a pretty significant note that a scum claimed Green Knight.

Not to mention, I was already suspicious of him over the whole vote/unvote thing about the other heads. Now, he forgets his fellow "head" claimed Green Knight, and was lynched for it. Just too much of a coincidence.
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Post Post #585 (isolation #59) » Mon Nov 17, 2003 7:24 am

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Before you were here, mathcam made a big production to have everyone vote and then unvote to see if it had some relationship with God being a head and all of that. You will need to go back and read it, really.

It just stood out as trying to put himself as far from the heads as possible. A stretch, but having nothing else, it was enough for me. So, besides this occurance, what is suspicious about me?
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Post Post #587 (isolation #60) » Mon Nov 17, 2003 8:03 am

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Oh, I was implying that he was a head in the first place. He would believe a claim of Green Knight because he would want to keep him alive.

Again, this is not concrete. There is nothing here but speculation. But I have stated my case. If there is a decent argument against this, I could easily change my mind. But for now, the only argument has been to vote me, which doesn't necessarily fly.
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Post Post #589 (isolation #61) » Mon Nov 17, 2003 8:44 am

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Who would that be, Werebear? I posted a list of last postings, and the quiet ones have already spoken up. I'm afraid we're gonna have to go on actual suspicions this time, "Oh Hairy One". :P
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Post Post #591 (isolation #62) » Mon Nov 17, 2003 9:03 am

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...Or you could be the head along with mathcam trying to defend him... Or you and I could be the heads trying to confuse everyone. Or, I am actually a Gumby from the Flying Circus just here to mess with everyone's heads.

"My brain hurts!"


Alright, maybe the last one was a stretch. :P
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Post Post #594 (isolation #63) » Mon Nov 17, 2003 10:13 am

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Saigon wrote:Just trying to justify my suspicions of you, for all I know each and everyone of you could be scum, but I still find you as being more suspicious.
I understand, 'tis the nature of the game. It's all about paranoia, at least for me. It's so easy to not trust anyone, so you trust everyone, or back and forth (as in my case).
Like I said, I'm not particularly happy with my mathcam choice, but it's the best I have right now. I certainly don't want to lose an active player, but I don't want to die in my sleep either. :D
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Post Post #596 (isolation #64) » Mon Nov 17, 2003 10:22 am

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Hmm, good point. I hadn't taken that stipulation into account.

Thinking... thinking...
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Post Post #598 (isolation #65) » Mon Nov 17, 2003 10:33 am

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Yep, I'm gonna have to unvote. That was my main suspicion against him, but it doesn't fit now.

At least I tried. :) *shrug*

Unvote: mathcam
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Post Post #611 (isolation #66) » Tue Nov 18, 2003 3:37 am

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I agree with most of what you are saying, Saigon. I, too, am skeptical of Concorde's presence in this game. It made more sense early in the game, but with the dwindling numbers it's starting to look less likely that he is in here.

As for God, well, if the votes don't get his attention, I might have to add one his way. Come on people, let's play here.
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Post Post #613 (isolation #67) » Tue Nov 18, 2003 3:41 am

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My suspicions were pretty weak. No one else seemed to care either way, so it's not like I could take him down myself. Once I realized the main issue was actually false, what's the point? With my slight uneasiness to leaving the Black Knight in our midst, and growing doubts about Concorde, why would I want to lynch someone on baseless suspicions?
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Post Post #618 (isolation #68) » Tue Nov 18, 2003 8:16 am

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Uhh, Orbiting, you haven't really been a big contribution to this game. I'm not sure if it's in your best interest to just hop in to vote without any explanation at all.
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Post Post #620 (isolation #69) » Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:07 am

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Wow, that's much better... except the incriminating me part.

I seriously have to doubt your sanity. A vote for God or Loose Cannon is a vote for me, and I know I'm innocent.
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Post Post #649 (isolation #70) » Wed Nov 19, 2003 7:08 am

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I'm inclined to believe Thoth's claim. It's so crazy, I doubt he would make that up.

This has really got me worried. What if this is just a ruse to get us all riled up? It seems like a good way to out a bunch of roles at the same time, and Orbiting is safe for one, two, or maybe even three lynches. The real King Arthur might be keeping his mouth shut since he'd die tonight if he challenged Orbiting. Maybe that's a little far-fetched, but something isn't ringing right with this Orbiting bit.

*shrug*

I guess we'll just wait on bane221 and take it from there.
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Post Post #660 (isolation #71) » Wed Nov 19, 2003 12:22 pm

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Saigon wrote:I have no problem with lynching God, Loose Cannon or Fishbulb first...
I do! Like I said before, I am leaning towards Loose Cannon being scum, but now, a vote for him is essentially a vote for me. I don't like this setup, and I think something is going on here that we aren't aware of (maybe some Knights of Ni are responsible?). I guess we have to make progress or we'll never get anywhere, but I don't know the best course of action which will give us the most answers, yet.

[quote="Thoth]And of course King Arthur cannot be insane. He's a brave knight riding around on his wooden horse making click-clack sounds.[/quote]
You're talking about his coconuts... :P
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Post Post #661 (isolation #72) » Wed Nov 19, 2003 12:24 pm

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Bah! Lousy missing quotation marks...
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Post Post #663 (isolation #73) » Wed Nov 19, 2003 12:30 pm

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Well, that is a distinct possibility. If he turns out innocent, I'm doomed unless we can come up with some real answers here. If he is scum, then I'm fine, but I really do believe Thoth, and I certainly believe myself.

But, in the interest of self-preservation, I am all ready to lynch him in hopes that he is scum. I think we are waiting for bane, though, right?
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Post Post #665 (isolation #74) » Wed Nov 19, 2003 12:35 pm

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I am beginning to think the Knights of Ni are responsible for some of the confusion here. Maybe some misdirected investigations, or something similar.
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Post Post #672 (isolation #75) » Wed Nov 19, 2003 1:06 pm

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mathcam wrote:Just to make sure: Orbiting, you
are
getting very clear good/evil results, right? Not some fuzzy story which you're interpreting one way or another? I hate it when cops leave off little details like that.

Cam
Actually...
Orbiting wrote:I'm not sure what a "reverse cop" is, but I had considered the fact that Arthur might be a fairly single-minded cop, which is to say that he might consider that whoever is not with him (i.e. not a Knight) to be against him.
Unfortunately, I think that the only way to get anymore information at this point is to lynch someone I've investigated.
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Post Post #673 (isolation #76) » Wed Nov 19, 2003 1:08 pm

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bane221 wrote:(This game has gone from Sloth speed to Plaid)
[OT] Nice movie reference, but wrong game. :P [/OT]

[More OT]Ooh, that just game me an idea for a great Theme game![/More OT]
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Post Post #694 (isolation #77) » Tue Nov 25, 2003 2:15 am

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Werebear wrote:or a vigilante?
But why would a vigilante kill off Saigon? After seeing that Thoth wasn't evil, and then three good candidates, why go for an unknown? It certainly wouldn't help us today. Our resident Black Knight is starting his killing spree...
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Post Post #700 (isolation #78) » Tue Nov 25, 2003 4:20 am

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Then, if you believe Orbiting is wrong about him, why can't you believe that I am pro-town as well? Either you believe the cop, or you don't, which is precisely why I won't vote for Loose Cannon or God since I might as well be voting for myself. Something is wrong with our cop, and it's obvious some of you see it as well.
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Post Post #702 (isolation #79) » Tue Nov 25, 2003 4:23 am

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No, there are still docs out there... Which is why the giant didn't get their kill.
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Post Post #707 (isolation #80) » Tue Nov 25, 2003 8:31 am

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What is wrong with you, Werebear? Loose Cannon was one of the "guilty party", too.

I will not vote for Loose Cannon, however. I know, with my innocence, that it is likely that he is, too. Something has happened to the cop. The Knights of Ni admit to not really knowing what they do. I really think something happened to influence his results. And if it is going to take more lynches before you guys realize that, it will be too late. Just the fact that a "vigilante" took out someone not on the "confirmed" scum list shows something. Rather than take a chance, he should've sped things up by killing one of us. Instead, he takes a chance out of the remaining? I don't buy it. I bet
HE
knows that Orbiting is getting bad results, too.

(
Now
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Post Post #740 (isolation #81) » Mon Dec 01, 2003 2:37 am

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Sorry for the delay. The break left me little chances to have computer time.

I am Brother Maynard, a doc, and if the rabbit attacked me he would've been blown to tiny bits with the Holy Handgrenade of Antioch.
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Post Post #743 (isolation #82) » Mon Dec 01, 2003 6:23 am

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Night 1: Polotet
Night 2: Thoth
Night 3: mathcam
Night 4: Saigon
Night 5: mathcam

Mostly random, I haven't been able to read people this game. I feel pretty good about mathcam, though. I know, I should've protected our "cop" last night, but seeing as the baddies would assume he was covered and would pick someone else,
and
considering he got bad results on me...

Is there a possibility of there being only one French left? Maybe there were only two to start with. Then we'd have only one Head and one French. Dunno, just a thought.
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Post Post #747 (isolation #83) » Mon Dec 01, 2003 8:26 am

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I'm gonna have to agree with you guys there. Unless he
is
Dennis, I don't see plain peasants being in here. And mathcam, about the minstrels, my thoughts are that they are the "townies" in this game. The don't have any abilities, correct? So why have minstrels
and
peasants. Doesn't make sense to me.

Vote: God
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Post Post #750 (isolation #84) » Mon Dec 01, 2003 8:29 am

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Ah, good point. I assumed the lack of information about them to be lack of abilities. Guess that might not necessarily be true, but I still stand by my vote.
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Post Post #754 (isolation #85) » Tue Dec 02, 2003 2:41 am

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Why put your vote on me? If you really are a peasant, why would you want to lose a doc? Don't forget Loose Cannon was on Orbiting's list, too.
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Post Post #756 (isolation #86) » Tue Dec 02, 2003 4:16 am

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My point is that if he
was
pro-town, the last thing he'd want is to try to lynch me. Even if he dies, he'd want the town to win, right? So, if that's all the defense we get from him -- a baseless vote on a doc -- I think it's time to hang the scum.

Unfortunately for me, proving he is scum is not going to make tomorrow any easier, but I sure don't want to keep him alive with that sort of reaction. Hopefully, we will get some clarification on what is causing Orbiting to get some bad results.
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Post Post #765 (isolation #87) » Mon Dec 08, 2003 7:22 am

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I guess bane221's last action was to target me, and I can't vote today.

Also, I protected mathcam again last night.
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Post Post #772 (isolation #88) » Tue Dec 09, 2003 3:38 am

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I am not so sure about going after Loose Cannon. With Dragon Slayer vouching for him I have to assume you got the same bad results on him that you did on me.

We already know his roleclaim, so I guess at this point if we are going to bandwagon, we are going to hang him. Maybe we should look at Dragon Slayer instead, since we don't know his role and he is claiming to know of Loose Cannon's innocence. It might clear a few things up, and if not, we know Dragon Slayer is scum along with Loose.
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Post Post #774 (isolation #89) » Tue Dec 09, 2003 3:53 am

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Yeah, I'm not saying we need to after some random unclaimed. Just go after Dragon Slayer since we could get information out of him concerning Loose Cannon, and if Loose is scum, we know Dragon Slayer is along with him. It's just a better way to go about finding out about Loose Cannon, is all.
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Post Post #776 (isolation #90) » Tue Dec 09, 2003 3:55 am

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Gotcha.
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Post Post #780 (isolation #91) » Tue Dec 09, 2003 9:11 am

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Welcome back, Werebear.
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Post Post #795 (isolation #92) » Wed Dec 10, 2003 11:33 am

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Sorry, not going to protect a cop when his first revelation included
me
as scum. Hence the reason I was doubting Loose Cannon's scumminess as well. Now I am betting it was a Knight of Ni targetting Orbiting which gave him the bad result on me, so maybe Loose Cannon is the way to go after all. However, I don't find Werebear's
or
mathcam's roleclaim to be terribly convincing, either.
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Post Post #811 (isolation #93) » Thu Dec 11, 2003 12:26 pm

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I forgot all about the Black Knight. That would be a shame for us to get this far and then he stab us in the back (as was predicted by several when he first claimed). Dunno...
mathcam wrote: I think we should make a pact to play this 24/7 until we're done.
I would've been all for that a couple days ago. Ugh, missing the whole day's postings is really starting to suck.
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Post Post #822 (isolation #94) » Fri Dec 12, 2003 7:55 pm

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Well, if that's the case, I probably shouldn't protect him anymore. :lol:

Actually, after today's proceedings, I am now seriously concerned with mathcam. I don't know why I trusted him so much before, but looking back things are appearing more scummy. However, I am still worried about Night Stalker, so I'd have no problem with you taking him out either. :)
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Post Post #834 (isolation #95) » Thu Dec 18, 2003 11:26 am

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Dragon Slayer wrote:we only got one French
Macros wrote:
The Disembowelled:

Quagmire - French - Killed night 1
Jadesmar- replaced by God2 - French - Lynched day 5
So we have lost two French already.

Dragon Slayer wrote:What did Fishbulb claim?
Yes, I am a doc and I protected Darkblade last night as you asked.

I really think mathcam is the way to go.
Vote: mathcam
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Post Post #837 (isolation #96) » Thu Dec 18, 2003 12:13 pm

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Yeah, I think Night Stalker needs to go. If The Knights Who Say Ni are scum, then I would think The Black Knight was as well. Can't imagine what their victory conditions are, but Loose Cannon wouldn't have lied if he was pro-town.
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Post Post #842 (isolation #97) » Fri Dec 19, 2003 2:38 am

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Night Stalker wrote:
Fishbulb wrote:If The Knights Who Say Ni are scum, then I would think The Black Knight was as well.
doesn't make any sense. What in the world do they have to do with me? They had no connection to the Black Knight in the movie, and none here either. (And let's not forget how eager Loose Cannon was to lynch me. He certainly wasn't on my side...)
This has nothing to do with whose side you are on. There is no connection between the two in the movie. I'm going back to Werebear's argument a few days ago about The Knights Who Say Ni and The Black Knight not being evil since they aren't killing anyone. Obviously, Loose Cannon was evil, so that doesn't look good for you, either.
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Post Post #856 (isolation #98) » Mon Dec 22, 2003 4:13 am

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Sorry, everyone. I had no idea how chaotic this weekend was going to turn out. I kept trying to make time to hop on, but I rarely had enough time to do more than check a thread or two before I had to take off again. I apologize if my unexpected absence caused any sort of delay in the game, and I will try to get back in as soon as possible. Unfortunately, I do not have the time right now to do more than mass post this message, so please have patience. :cry:
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Post Post #866 (isolation #99) » Tue Dec 23, 2003 8:41 am

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Sorry, folks!

Mathcam claimed Sir Bors.

I am Brother Maynard.
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Post Post #881 (isolation #100) » Mon Jan 05, 2004 5:16 am

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Alright guys, what can I do to prove to you I'm a doc? Want me to save whoever Dragon Slayer is going to kill (except myself, of course)? *shrug*

This is so close to endgame, we don't want to screw up here.
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Post Post #891 (isolation #101) » Tue Jan 13, 2004 3:33 am

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What? I tried to protect him but he didn't follow the plan. He picked me last night instead of you.
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Post Post #894 (isolation #102) » Tue Jan 13, 2004 5:08 pm

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Because that was the only likely scenario.

And now Orbiting. How do
you
know?
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Post Post #899 (isolation #103) » Wed Jan 14, 2004 8:41 am

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Scroll up. I already went over this. It was the only likely scenario. Why would he block anyone but Dragon Slayer (what he was supposed to do) or me (who he was most suspicious of)? Also, he would've been protected by me if he had left me alone, it's the only logical solution.
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Post Post #901 (isolation #104) » Wed Jan 14, 2004 9:15 am

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Wait a second. I think I figured out another possible solution. If Dragon Slayer and another player both targeted Werebear, I wouldn't have been able to protect him from both. Then, it is possible Werebear targeted Orbiting (again, no idea why he would, though).
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Post Post #902 (isolation #105) » Wed Jan 14, 2004 9:17 am

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Night Stalker wrote:So, if you're so sure he targeted you...
I wasn't so sure, just couldn't see any other way things would've happened like they did. I have no proof, and now I am thinking there could be another scenario here, as mentioned in my previous post.
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Post Post #904 (isolation #106) » Thu Jan 15, 2004 7:07 am

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Dragon Slayer wrote:I thought of that but it didn't happen.
How do you know it didn't happen? It makes sense to me and is the only plausible explanation of why things happened the way they did.
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Post Post #906 (isolation #107) » Thu Jan 15, 2004 9:47 am

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Don't be blinded, Dragon Slayer. With Night Stalker still around and possibly killing tonight, if I'm not scum and you guys lynch me there will be two less tomorrow and you might not be able to kill Dragon Slayer in just one more kill. Really think about the possibilities here.
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Post Post #909 (isolation #108) » Thu Jan 15, 2004 3:35 pm

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But you're not hearing me, Dragon Slayer. He might need more than one attempt left to kill him. You lose me, then another tonight, even if you target him he might be around for another day, and even through another lynch. Who knows how many lives he has left?
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Post Post #912 (isolation #109) » Fri Jan 16, 2004 7:55 am

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Night Stalker wrote:If Fishbulb is innocent...
If?
If
?!? I am! And you guys are doomed if you take me out. With only 5 of us, it is no time to be hasty.
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Post Post #914 (isolation #110) » Sat Jan 17, 2004 3:38 am

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I wasn't talking to you, Dragon Slayer. Night Stalker still has an open mind, and I hope he can ignore your attempts to speed lynch me.
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Post Post #916 (isolation #111) » Sat Jan 17, 2004 4:12 pm

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Orbiting has been pretty quiet about today. Hmmm...
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Post Post #920 (isolation #112) » Mon Jan 19, 2004 3:16 pm

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Darkblade wrote:It would make sence for Orbiting to know if he had been blocked since he wouldn't get a result.
That's kind of irrelevant now. He would also know if he was scum and didn't get his kill.

At this point, I no longer believe Werebear picked me. I'm almost positive two people targeted Werebear, that would be the only explanation for my failed protect.
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Post Post #923 (isolation #113) » Wed Jan 21, 2004 12:20 pm

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Vote: Orbiting


Let's get rid of the lurkers... :)
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Post Post #933 (isolation #114) » Thu Jan 22, 2004 11:03 am

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Let's just lynch Orbiting!
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Post Post #935 (isolation #115) » Thu Jan 22, 2004 1:01 pm

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Actually, when Orbiting turns up scum, it would be smarter for Dragon Slayer to take
you
out rather than me. And I can even protect him from your attack so he can even live through the game!
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Post Post #937 (isolation #116) » Thu Jan 22, 2004 2:44 pm

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I'm just saying the way it is. Maybe you should be trying to convince us of your innocence so he wouldn't kill you, because the way I see it, either way he will be killing you tonight.
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Post Post #939 (isolation #117) » Thu Jan 22, 2004 5:16 pm

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There is no information. Don't you get it?? You need to step back and look at the big picture here. You all are playing straight into her hands. She just sits back and stays quiet while you guys do the killing for her. Stop the insanity! Mark my words. Lynch her now or we're all doomed!
Doomed!!!
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Post Post #943 (isolation #118) » Sun Jan 25, 2004 12:07 pm

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Lynch her now or we're all doomed!
Doomed!!!
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Post Post #945 (isolation #119) » Tue Jan 27, 2004 6:30 am

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Mathcam? Well, we
know
he's evil!

Unvote: Orbiting


Vote: The Evil Evil mathcam
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Post Post #957 (isolation #120) » Wed Jan 28, 2004 5:05 pm

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Noooooooooooo!!!

I'm melting!!! Melting! Melting...

(I really was Brother Maynard.)
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Post Post #966 (isolation #121) » Tue Feb 03, 2004 10:50 am

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I actually thought that was the last vote on me. Oops! :oops:

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