armlx wrote:Battle Mage wrote:armlx wrote:WhoMe? wrote:so basically either
BM is lying scum and is claiming miller to avoid investigations
or
BM is telling the truth, he's basically vanilla, but there's always going to be that uncertainty about him, and scum will try to play on that to get him lynched at a crucial moment
Am I missing something or is this the situation? If this is the case I may switch my vote to BM, because I don't see much of a down side.
Thats actually about 66% correct. There's an option C that he had some kind of role on top of miller thats exactly the same as option B otherwise.
This is a surprisingly perceptive post. It isnt especially a town-tell, but it shows me that you are thinking objectively at least. Of course, it also raises the question of, Why the hell are you voting for me, if you think this is a possibility?
Im seeing hypocrisy here....
BM
I am voting you because I believe you fall under option A, rather than B or C. The 66% wasn't referring to your case, but instead the fact WhoMe? had found 2/3 of the realistic possibilities.
Im not getting this. Why exactly are you sure i dont have an additional role of some sort?
Armlx wrote:
First, I believe that the estimated gain from lynching you is higher than the estimated loss. The gain from lynching you as lying scum is far greater than the loss from lynching you as town miller and visa versa, less gain for you living as town miller compared to loss of you living as mafia with claim.
That greatly depends on your answer to the above question.
Armlx wrote:
Second, given your behavior I'm leaning that you are more likely scum safe claiming based on a metagame.
A scum safe-claim of Miller? WTF is SAFE about that?
But yeh, i agree i could potentially be using the meta on me, to confirm my innocence, as i dont do ballsy moves as scum, and i could be trying something different. Thats WIFOM, and a null-tell, but if u use ur common sense, its more likely a town tell.
Armlx wrote:
The auto-clear thing is in regards to miller being unclearable by cop. B/c you claimed miller should not mean we accept you as town, as there's no realistic way to assure you are.
Equally, it doesnt mean you should accept me as scum automatically. its a two way street, and again, this is not a reason for a vote.
Armlx wrote:
If someone who legitimately is a lot scummier than you are shows up, I'm willing to lynch them over you. However, at this point in time you are definitely the best lynch, and thus my vote stands until it is needed elsewhere.
Now, heres the thing. I can just about understand a townie keeping his vote on me for now. A misguided townie, but nonetheless well meaning. But what i dont get is why, on page 12, you are willing to declare that you are prepared to lynch someone solely because they claimed a non-power-role, even though you cant point out one scummy action on their part...
Dont think i havent got my eye on you. If you are town, read this carefully.
BM