Open 236 - Pamplona Mafia (C9++) Game Over

[Netlava]

@drmyshottizsik

What made you think that it was a playstyle issue?

[Nobody Special]

Votecount 1.3

Netlava - 3 - The Fonz, ekiM, drmyshottyizsik
Alduskkel - 2 - kyle99, Ythan
Beefster - 1 - Dry-fit
drmyshottyizsik - 1 - Netlava

Not voting: Alduskkel, Beeftser, yabbaguy, Zajnet

With 11 alive, it is 6 to lynch. Deadline: August 16

[drmyshottyizsik]

Nothing, I just wanted to make sure.

[Ythan]

No, drmy hadn't but the point is that popping in to just say "hey" is active lurking, which is scummier than just not having posted yet.

Bullshit it's active lurking. Not every post devoid of content falls under that heading.

So, what does posting "Hey." accomplish? Tell me that.

It allows me to egosearch the thread so I can check back in as well as confirming my presence.

And of these people who are not Vigs (or VTs), who is going to talk about it? You're left with power roles and mafia. Neither wants to be outed, so revealing more knowledge of the setup is dumb no matter how you look at it.

So whatever setup info anyone has aside from knowing that it's VV or VVVV, they aren't going to tell anyone else about it.

I was not talking about gleaning information through discussion. I said originally that I was looking over setup information before looking over the smaller amount of information in the thread thus far. You then quoted me to say that there was little or nothing to glean, for no reason I can imagine.

Just stating a fact. We now know it's VV or VVVV. What does that tell us? Not much, we know there's a Vigilante and that's pretty much all we know.

Then why did you question my consideration of the setup in the first place?

I close my eyes and randomly point at the player list.

You sure are dodgy about the simplest possible question in the game.

I just answered.

And you lied.

Also, I find it funny how you're voting me for being inquisitive "but not useful" when, as you pointed out, some people hadn't even posted yet. What makes me scummier? If your answer resembles "active lurking" then head back to the beginning of this post.

But you were

actually

active lurking. That's different from

not

active lurking, so if you're trying to call me a hypocrite then that will have to wait.

Alright. I accused you of active lurking. You're accusing me of active lurking. See a problem? Plus, your one-word post was way more empty than anything I've posted.

That's not to say you're active lurking now, but, at the time, you were.

You foolish fool. Do you just not know what active lurking is?

Dr, you're scum. Your hop onto Net is disingenuous and your demand that he provide meta to dispute it as well.

And yet, you have no problem with ekiM's vote. Why?

Is there supposed to be some contradiction here?

Yeah. What's the difference between drmy and ekiM's votes?[/quote]Well I said that Dr's was disingenuous. It's still in the quote pyramid actually.

[Ythan]

Why am I scummy? And ythan, I like meta reading people

That's fine. I called your in-thread request for it disingenuous.

[Beefster]

Hoo! Long day stuck with babysitting, helping someone move, and digging dirt. I'll take a look at what's shakin.

[Beefster]

Beef, how can you suspect just me OR Net if the basis of your suspicion is that we're both scum?

Not true. It was purely speculation. I find you both suspicious from a few actions, but don't really have much of a case- thus an FoS.

[drmyshottyizsik]

@ beefster dont complain, today i dug a ditch, moved the dirt, mulched 13 flower beds, and laid river rock along the shoulder of a street

[Beefster]

I'm not complaining. I'm just saying where I've been. I wanted to post earlier but couldn't.

That aside, I want to vote Netlava, but I won't because I don't think it's quite time for L-1.
I think his vote on drmy was very opportunistic.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Me too, but of course it was on me.

So is my name really that annoying to type out?

Yes. ~~NS

[Beefster]

Most people these days are too lazy to type out names longer than about 5 letters. Some people even abbreviate

my

username.

Anyway, what do you mean by "of course it was on me"?

[drmyshottyizsik]

the oppertunistic vote, so im kind of a bias voice.

@ NS It's not that hard!!! G & H is the only one who ever spells it out though

[Zajnet]

the oppertunistic vote, so im kind of a bias voice.

@ NS It's not that hard!!! G & H is the only one who ever spells it out though

@ NS It's not that hard!!! G & H is the only one who ever spells it out though

@ NS It's not that hard!!!

@ NS

The irony is amusing.

[Ythan]

Beef, how can you suspect just me OR Net if the basis of your suspicion is that we're both scum?

Not true. It was purely speculation. I find you both suspicious from a few actions, but don't really have much of a case- thus an FoS.

A few actions. That description does not seem to match.

[Dry-fit]

Before anyone answers, does anyone disagree with asking everyone what their policy is on shooting N0 as a vig?

What were you hoping to gain by asking this? After Alduskkel pointed out a problem with this question, all you said was "good point," implying you didn't think of this problem yourself. What if I don't believe you?

[Ythan]

Then you don't believe me. What am I supposed to freak out about it or try to prove to you what I was thinking? No. I was speculating on the setup and thinking about the one kill.

[kyle99]

Then you don't believe me. What am I supposed to freak out about it or try to prove to you what I was thinking? No. I was speculating on the setup and thinking about the one kill.

Ehh, the thing that bothers me about that question was it seems like pretty obvious rolefishing to me. Anyone who replied that they were in favor of N0 vigging was not the vig, and vise versa. From a town standpoint, what were you trying to gain by asking that question?

[Ythan]

I just said what I was trying to gain in the post that you quoted.

[kyle99]

I just said what I was trying to gain in the post that you quoted.

How is that setup speculation?

[Ythan]

Knowing how players in this game would act as a vigilante, a role whose actions are immediately apparent if successful, would aid in my speculation. I was trying to narrow it down but in this complicated setup that really won't be fruitful for some time.

[Alduskkel]

Just stating a fact. We now know it's VV or VVVV. What does that tell us? Not much, we know there's a Vigilante and that's pretty much all we know.

Then why did you question my consideration of the setup in the first place?

I just don't think that it's worth spending much time on. I just summed it up in a few sentences. There. Done.

I close my eyes and randomly point at the player list.

You sure are dodgy about the simplest possible question in the game.

I just answered.

And you lied.[/quote]No. What makes you say that?

Alright. I accused you of active lurking. You're accusing me of active lurking. See a problem? Plus, your one-word post was way more empty than anything I've posted.

That's not to say you're active lurking now, but, at the time, you were.

You foolish fool. Do you just not know what active lurking is?

Forgive me, but here's a quick wiki definition:

A subset of lurking is the so-called "active lurking", where a player posts in the thread but without making any contribution to the progress of the game.

Posting "Hey." sounds like it fits.

Well I said that Dr's was disingenuous. It's still in the quote pyramid actually.

Okay. What makes it disingenuous?

Knowing how players in this game would act as a vigilante, a role whose actions are immediately apparent if successful, would aid in my speculation. I was trying to narrow it down but in this complicated setup that really won't be fruitful for some time.

Narrow what down?

[kyle99]

Knowing how players in this game would act as a vigilante, a role whose actions are immediately apparent if successful, would aid in my speculation. I was trying to narrow it down but in this complicated setup that really won't be fruitful for some time.

No, finding the number of players who would vig would narrow down the people who would be a vig and out them to the mafia. That is extremely anti-town.

[Alduskkel]

EBWOP:

I close my eyes and randomly point at the player list.

You sure are dodgy about the simplest possible question in the game.

I just answered.

And you lied.

No. What makes you say that?

I should stop screwing up my quotes.

[Alduskkel]

Hey kyle99, who do you suspect most?

[Ythan]

No. What makes you say that?

The reason you gave for voting me is a lie. Had i not said that very plainly?

Forgive me, but here's a quick wiki definition:

A subset of lurking is the so-called "active lurking", where a player posts in the thread but without making any contribution to the progress of the game.

Posting "Hey." sounds like it fits.

So you

were

active lurking. And I dropped one post for my egosearch before I settled down to business. Not the same.

Okay. What makes it disingenuous?

It does not. Read. As genuine. Next.

Narrow what down?

Really, do you not see how what roles may be in the game might narrow down what roles are in the game?