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hi everyone
i don't think yeka's thing is scummy really
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oops sorry
i have brief experience with you if you're inutiletry as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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what do you want to say about ari here, and do you think hyperposting players are often easy to read?In post 137, superbowl9 wrote: Katya seems like they'll sort themselves if they keep hyperposting Ari are you scum or nah?
@drew For real its been a while tho tbf
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because it felt off to metry as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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i don't actually have that much experience with katya so i'm not sure. honestly i thought you were saying that hyperposting is easily readable. do you know her?In post 159, superbowl9 wrote:
ANSWER THE QUESTION I WANT ANSWERSIn post 145, Aristeia wrote: mala playing the entire game drunk challenge
And more like take a shot every post challenge
No I don't think postcount = readability I'm only commenting on KatyaIn post 147, meowmeow wrote:
what do you want to say about ari here, and do you think hyperposting players are often easy to read?In post 137, superbowl9 wrote: Katya seems like they'll sort themselves if they keep hyperposting Ari are you scum or nah?
@drew For real its been a while tho tbf
VOTE: superbowl9
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the latter, mostlyIn post 164, yekaterina wrote:In post 147, meowmeow wrote: and do you think hyperposting players are often easy to read?
wait do you think i am particularly difficult to read? or that i will be this game? or is this just relevant superbowl9 thought process to you?
i have seen you once and you were fairly obviously town in that game. i expect you to play at least a bit differently, since you're on an alt account. i don't know what to expect and will sort you as i see fit later
do you disagree?
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well i'm not really feeling that right now D:try as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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my main account is ausuka and the game i'm thinking of is mini 2279 fwiw. this isn't really meant to be a secret alt account
i think it's possible to townread posts 2, 3 and 4, although townreading 2 or 4 is likely to be dubious. 3 could be dubious but could also possibly not be dubious. what a dubiousity.
in any case, my point was that the 'yeah?' felt kind of strange - like, if you think datisi's read on me is weird, which is like yeah fine i believe that is a thought you could have, why not just ask him about it? like what were you trying to communicate theretry as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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lmao, who were you thinking i was?In post 182, Datisi wrote:
*spits out pasta*In post 181, meowmeow wrote:ausuka
...god how am i SO FUCKING BAD AT ALTS??try as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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i am not entirely sure why but this vibes to me as a towny thought to have? i mean i'm not sure i want to be cracking into the preflip associatives on page 8 but i think i get where it's coming from and it seems like a somewhat strange post for scum to make, or at least counterintuitive to accuse someone who's pushing in the same direction as youIn post 186, Doctor Drew wrote: And very Drew of me to say, but the brief interaction of std and Dats(std wanting to wagon Dats and Dats saying std is better than that), seems partnery.
i am not acting in bad faith though >:(try as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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datisiiiii you know my reads are awful stop buddying metry as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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i can kind of see where that's coming from but also like... it's not like i'm voting katya here. i'm aware she talks in an unusual way and i had a confrontation with it in the early stages of the other game. but like, if that posting style makes me not understand its thought process, i'm going to press her on it to get more information. i don't really have a problem with the response it gave to my question but i don't think it was a bad question, shrugtry as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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scum ari?In post 206, Aristeia wrote:
scum theatre?In post 182, Datisi wrote:
*spits out pasta*In post 181, meowmeow wrote:ausuka
...god how am i SO FUCKING BAD AT ALTS??try as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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i mean, is that not exactly what you said? i don't understand this at all or what's meant to be impliedIn post 213, superbowl9 wrote:
Nah and no but lowkey I thought all of this would be implied in the post I coulda said katya will sort if they hyperpost instead no? Seems like a weird pressIn post 175, meowmeow wrote:
i don't actually have that much experience with katya so i'm not sure. honestly i thought you were saying that hyperposting is easily readable. do you know her?In post 159, superbowl9 wrote:
ANSWER THE QUESTION I WANT ANSWERSIn post 145, Aristeia wrote: mala playing the entire game drunk challenge
And more like take a shot every post challenge
No I don't think postcount = readability I'm only commenting on KatyaIn post 147, meowmeow wrote:
what do you want to say about ari here, and do you think hyperposting players are often easy to read?In post 137, superbowl9 wrote: Katya seems like they'll sort themselves if they keep hyperposting Ari are you scum or nah?
@drew For real its been a while tho tbf
VOTE: superbowl9
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can you elaborate on your thoughts when reading these posts?In post 226, Shadi1337 wrote: i don't think i have any scum reads/scum leans per se right now - but reading dati's posts i don't hate their thoughts on meow so maybe i just plaster my RVS vote to stay for now
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the post i quoted felt off as i said
to elaborate a bit, it felt empty and performative to me and i wanted to see what, if anything, was the thought behind ittry as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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i'm generally not a big fan of preflip associatives but if shadi flips red i think this is scum like a very big amount of the timeIn post 306, yekaterina wrote:In post 235, yekaterina wrote:In post 233, Aristeia wrote: who do you think is our best bet for flipping a mafia today katya?
like at this exact moment?
maybe shadi1337?
but far from anything super strong there
this may have been a bit of a honeypot as skygazer would say
anyway thoughts later maybetry as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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the whole 'maybe x is scum idk i don't have scumreads' and then calling it a honeypot is so ??? to me
like if you want to honeypot why are you going to such lengths to emphasise you don't actually have a scumread theretry as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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like at this point datisi has already pointed out like the big glaring problem with shadi's post
i think it's extremely questionable to make that sort of complete non-read and if/when people push on it say it's a honeypot and people pushing there were just attracted by your post
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i think votes and wagoning are such incredibly common behaviour that i really struggle to believe this as a genuine line of thought. like, do you want dissertations on read progressions on page 13? i voted superbowl because i thought he was scummy. i still do, actually, but at this stage of the game I'd also like to pay attention to other people. and you could ask the same of like any vote that's happened in this game. oh, why do you need to vote there? couldn't you just ask them things and wait for them or something? or you could ask the same for any game. it just feels like you wanted to make this push and the thought process was created after
not to mention iirc i don't think anyone explicitly asked about it? datisi made note of it, sure
and like if you don't agree that wagons are good but you acknowledge town do it and don't want to argue about it... what is the point here exactly? what is the honeypot supposed to be doing?try as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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you asked about a completely separate thing???? like it was just completely different and honestly your questions were completely uninteresting
like "why does bulge think you and datisi might be scum together" zzzzzz i don't really care about that at all. why on earth would it influence me??? oh i don't need to say anything because katya already lobbed a question of reading comprehension where the answer is not likely to be different at all depending on Shadi's alignment.
i also don't think his datisi read is bad inherently. the obvious issue here is that shadi didn't read datisi's posts about me and yet acted like they had a great deal of influence on his view of the gamestatetry as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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datisi you're not supposed to pocket me by calling me stupid that's not how this worksIn post 328, Datisi wrote:
idk, i still think a lot of the things it's saying don't make a lot of sense (and thus it's a scumlean) but the current discussion happening is lowkey stupid and i'm not sure it's actually indicative of alignemntIn post 327, Save The Dragons wrote: if you could describe your current thoughts on katya's slot, they would be...
what do you think of ari?
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voting is cheap and costs me nothing? i'm not sure why the idea here is that i should need to vote someone in order to vote themIn post 322, yekaterina wrote:In post 319, yekaterina wrote: ??? why is wagoning someone who isn't currently here who is posting in a scheduled manner effective in this situation
like shadi1337 is likely to come to the thread in an hour or so based on previous days
and i guess i don't see the difference between voting and not voting re:your post in terms of what can be gained from that
idk maybe i'm being dumb here but are you then just also looking for commentary on the vote? or do you think they're more likely to respond if you vote?
wagons can potentially be good for gamestate and votes are often used as an indicator of who you're scumreading the most. i think shadi is likely scum so i'm voting him. i'm not going to select who i think is scum as town; if i press something it's because i find it interesting and i don't think most posts are interesting
i can't really make a case or whatever at this stage of the game. it's not like i don't do that kind of thing, it's just far too early
in general i'm still pretty confused what the difference is with votes against shadi vs like any other kind of vote. i get that you don't like votes or whatever and i'm sure you're not faking that but i don't understand the alignment conclusions you're coming to at alltry as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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cats are prideful and spiteful animalsIn post 336, Datisi wrote: well, is it working?try as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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oops i thought i posted a lot more recently than that >.>try as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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you're right, datisi's opinion of his own scum play is much higher than that. i think he would demand you use more superlatives. like, "greatest of all time" or "incredibly amazing"In post 340, Bell wrote: I don’t think datisi would agree that Datisi is a good scum player.try as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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i feel like this game is more difficult than the average mafia game
my feeling is that std+ dunn are town from the last few pages
will try and parse the longer posts better when i get back
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so my laptop broke yay
psychologically i am not very good at parsing and writing long posts
but i will have to try
i might be able to get a chromebook from like 2014 from my parents house tomorrow lmaotry as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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ok so re shadi
my initial concern was that i thought his vote being based on datisi's posts was really odd when he obviously hadn't read datisi's posts?
his answer to this was that he thought datisi's posts were referring to me hyperposting. i'm sure this is true - it's not really the sort of thing mafia need to lie about or whatever. but it's obviously a super clumsy reading of datisi's post and requires you to like not think about what he's saying at all i think because i don't know how you read that post and not come to the conclusion he agrees with me? which like, i think on some level town do skim posts and it's whatever but specifically bringing that up makes me really feel like he's not actually invested in solving the game.
i think his very, like... passive approach to interacting right now and also before kind of solidifies that? like he's around and posting but the focus is more on responding to people than poking around? which like to some extent he's being pressured and these things happen, but stuff like the sheep read is just... i get being disengaged but when you're around wy do you need prompting to bring that up?try as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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i mean the reads aren't super duper strong but for std i think the superbowl read feels kind of good and i got a sorta similar vibe from him
dunn just overall feels relaxed sassy towards bell in a way i associate with town mostly shrug. to be fair this is less a read i developed just now and more a feeling I've maintained for a whiletry as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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In post 472, Dunnstral wrote:In post 450, meowmeow wrote: i mean the reads aren't super duper strong but for std i think the superbowl read feels kind of good and i got a sorta similar vibe from him
dunn just overall feels relaxed sassy towards bell in a way i associate with town mostly shrug. to be fair this is less a read i developed just now and more a feeling I've maintained for a while
Interesting reads fellasIn post 452, Bell wrote: Dunn is full of sass as either alignment.
also hi i was on holiday in ireland but i am now back and it is time to do things moretry as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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yeah to be fair i haven't played with him in a whileIn post 452, Bell wrote: Dunn is full of sass as either alignment.
i still get towny vibes from him, but it's not a super strong read shrugtry as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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i think sheep tends to post early as town too? i imagine he's just like busy or whatever shrugIn post 470, Dunnstral wrote:
Not sheep... they actually post quite a bit early on as scumIn post 437, Datisi wrote: we can yeet shadi
or superbowl
or even sheep maybe
this game gives me look at postcount find scum vibes idk whytry as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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i think this vote is a pretty good one
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ok so reads wise, here are my takes on the players in this game
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so, here's the readslist in a more digestible format;
datisi, dunnstral, the bulge
aristeia, doctor drew, save the dragons
bell
malakittens, sheepsaysmeep, yekaterina
superbowl9, shadi1337
as always, d1 reads are not that strong and tbh if any of my top 3 flipped scum i wouldn't be shocked - maybe if it's literally datisi/dunn/bulge i would be upset about it - but for d1 i'd prefer to kill towards the bottom of the list. obviously.try as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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i hope this can make up for my role in the game dying down a bit, i should be usually active going forward as long as i'm at home. and i'm happy to interact if anyone's around
is this elaboratable? like, i assume you are an experienced mafia player and i think lurkers getting shoved is a v common occurrence. what am i missing hereIn post 544, sheepsaysmeep wrote: That feels like something you think is factually true as scum but is weird to actually believe
That the people doing jackshit are thus more likely scumtry as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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In post 549, yekaterina wrote: also like, sort me then?try as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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i mean it's possible town you decided to say those things, i think they increase the likelihood of you being scum because at a glance they look content like but i can't really see it - i can't say i'm too familiar with town 'armchairing gamestate' or what that entailsIn post 576, superbowl9 wrote:
What draws the line for you between town armchairing gamestate vs scum faking contributions?In post 545, meowmeow wrote: obviously, i didn't like 137; both the katya read and the ari thing felt rather empty to me, like just saying things to say things.
pedit: i won't go over it in detail because whatever, but people have been bringing up my scum game for a pretty long time, not townreading me because of it, etc. frankly they are right to do so and that is sensible. the alternative seems rather silly to me.try as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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it's a gamestate read. if you're asking who on the wagon i would believe more or less likely to be mafia, it has not changed since i made a reads list.In post 582, yekaterina wrote:
by who?In post 545, meowmeow wrote: the only thing i can really say in his defence is that if he's mafia, he's probably being bussed, because to me it doesn't really feel like they're trying to save him.
pedit: ok? did i say you were unsortable? i said people shouldn't townread you too easily, which is true. similarly, people shouldn't townread me too easily. or datisi. etc etctry as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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i mean, my thought process was that i don't remember any specific reason to townread you which i liked, which made me want to caution against like easily vibereading for stuff like activity etc which a lot of people do instinctively, because there are indeed a lot of scum players who struggle to do that and it is very +town for them. i don't think it's about effort, it's about the process of sorting which is pretty different. most people haven't explained their reads on you, and i don't really feel like pushing them to do so - given most people townread you there is a zero chance you get eliminated today and people can just continue their process of posting however they want. i think often, not interfering with that gives you better reads - with the 'sorting' thing you keep mentioning, i am sorting in the way i do it. i ask questions if i find something that interests me, which i think is reasonably common; i think if there's nothing i want more detail about, asking things tends to be slightly worse because if people just... post whatever they want, it's more true to their instinctive motives which is easier to read for alignment. i think reading people's posts and deciding if things are towny and scummy is actively sortingIn post 545, meowmeow wrote: obviously if ppl have more specific reasons to townread her i'm happy to hear it; i don't think we should write off any reason to townread a capable scum player but i think a lot of the more common surface level reasons aren't that valid
in terms of solving the game; i think particularly if you're town we think extremely differently and it will be difficult to like do a town jam session and get a perfect sweep, but we can certainly try. what about bell? you said he was town, right? in terms of struggling to read, he's the only truly 'neutral' read on my list, so it seems like a good choicetry as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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255 is fine? arguably he's narrating his own feelings there which might be what ari is getting at but it's true that scum bell could easily have kept pushing datisi and started a 1v1 that people would roll their eyes at and townread him for posting or like, whatever. i guess he doesn't need to pull back there if he's scum and doesn't have anything else to push
having an actual read on sheep is something i sort of like and although i'm not sure if he feels like explaining, i do see how someone would get there
making fun of the laptop thing could be towny? it's the sort of thing i was townreading dunn for so maybe bell would disapprove of that read lmao
ari is smart but also playing 'sheep ari' sounds kind of not that entertaining and also if you take it far enough ari has less material to sort ppl with i thinktry as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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shrug, i mean maybe i'm just more of a wing it mafia player but i don't think doing stuff in real time is like exceptionally more difficult as mafia - i think it's fakeable just not sure he would fake it now that i think about it. i understand the pov though, i know there is a school of thought about interacting with people in real time
ari hasn't really given reads yet unless i am having like a major brain moment. except bell but like yeah that's what we're talking about. i guess she also townreads datisi but i agree with thattry as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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it's not really something i think is ai, i think datisi could write that easily as both alignmentsIn post 604, yekaterina wrote: does datisi being upset with me for not voting feel like,
right? to you
like it is logical and reasonable of course and he is probably correct regarding why my play bad
but does the way in which expressed feel like, town?try as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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i don't think i said that? i do think your posts got less interesting/contentful as time transpired but i townread you anywayIn post 675, The Bulge wrote: meow said my latest posts are content-free but idk what she is talking abouttry as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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i actually kind of like this tbhIn post 721, superbowl9 wrote:
264 Wants to clarifyIn post 712, Aristeia wrote: wdym by the way i am clarifying is townie? can you give like an example and why it is townie?
354 Does not want to clarify
362 Back to clarifying
I find that towny. If you wanted to just slap a SR you could have if you wanted to just fight criticism you could have. Changing back and forth based on what you think is helpful is town
530 and 538 if you want something recent. (Admittedly this had to be prompted w/ backlash to your "do work for me town" which takes away cookie points)
Bell is TOT wallposting but trying to boil that down into something nice and readable is in the best interest of town imo.
It's not just that series of posts but is writing an essay on every nuance of my read on you what you want? I could have literally just said "Feel" and it would mean the exact same thing as what I'm writing.
It's not 1 or 2 or 4 posts that pinged me nor is it specifically only this attribute of clarity/obfuscation its an overall impression of your mindset.try as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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i mean, of course he theoretically could write that post as both alignments? i just think that in addition to that, it could just... easily come from town datisi or scum datisi. it is really not difficult to imagine either scenario for me. i do not see it as a particularly alignment indicative post. etc etcIn post 738, yekaterina wrote:In post 709, meowmeow wrote:
it's not really something i think is ai, i think datisi could write that easily as both alignmentsIn post 604, yekaterina wrote: does datisi being upset with me for not voting feel like,
right? to you
like it is logical and reasonable of course and he is probably correct regarding why my play bad
but does the way in which expressed feel like, town?
it's not aboutcouldwrite that easily as either alignment of course it could
like i pretty strongly believe that anyone could write pretty much any post as any alignment if they wanted to (like if i can post somewhat competently as a scums anyone can)
i guess maybe i just have zero understanding of how you go about determining which alignment posts might be coming from it felt like datisi was upset with me for how i was playing (justified) but was also threatening a scumread for this when it has been scumreading me and pairing me with whoever throughout anyway and also felt maybe disproportionate and also like, it probably knows helping me to who to vote more effective if town if datisi feels he has a better idea who to eliminate than i dotry as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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i mean i don't particularly want to find things to townread about you. i could have found things that are slightly +town if i tried hard enough? your talking to me about datisi was maybe + townIn post 769, yekaterina wrote: eh meowmeow iso is like, okay
big post worries me maybe more than it should
but it just feels like there is perspective issue with regards to her reads and approach to me (and i guess also get the same feeling with her reads of datisi as well though presents itself differently of course)
like it's just like, 'i have noted these specific scummy things and noted nothing that could potentially be towny from you and even if i did it wouldn't count because! you won this recent scumgame even though none of the things i have noted are scummy about you in this game have comparables in that game or anything'
and its pretty hard to see town!her just finding nothing at all to be towny about town!me i guess doesn't even feel like she wants to
i don't really see the point in writing things that don't especially stand out to me just for a balanced analysis or whatever, that post was long enough as it istry as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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the read was based on the fact that i think pushing on shadi there would have happened like exactly the same regardless of if she made the incredibly non-commital honeypot or not. i think scum like making a show of pushing or at least interacting with their partners at some point, and i thought the way she made the interactions with shadi about her and this weird honeypot thing was veryIn post 797, Aristeia wrote: I don't know - I think it's kind of weird to think one scum would use another scum as a "honeypot" because highlighting a partner in such a way is p ???
maybe as an anti-associative? but even then the risks do not really make that much sense with the reward which is p bleh?
but like I don't see why town!ausuka can't think it - I think scum tend to make more sense than town usually because town just say what they think whereas scum tend to first double triple check things to make sure what they say "makes sense"
like if they're scum together i think it makes more sense from the pov of 'i want to make the situation look like i had more to do with the pressure building on my scum partner than i actually did'
maybe that doesn't make sense or whatever shrugtry as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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it kind of factored into my thinking at the start but has not been a big thing for me for most of the gameIn post 806, yekaterina wrote: like it feels like if meowmeow is town is likely following datisi's logic in terms of 'if can't follow her thought process, then a scums' which comes from datisi mostly being familiar with 2020-21 me and like, shouldn't be applicable for meowmeow? based on her own experiencetry as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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i mean, micro 1087 did not play into my scumread you at allIn post 811, yekaterina wrote:In post 807, Aristeia wrote: well if she read 1087 I would think she is familiar with your scumplay and has reason to be wary of it.
she's not really trying to get you voted off so what is the point of the read if she is mafia?
does me doing things that 'don't make sense' or whatever, such as with the honeypot, seem likely to come from scum!me based on that game though? or the other things she has found issue with?
like it felt to me like she was citing that game to say, 'look the things i am saying make sense, i am wary of it and everyone else should be too it just won this game' without actually taking anything from that game to apply here alignment wise
and to counter a narrative that doesn't really exist about me being town for saying vaguely towny things and such
could be longer term thing like i backburner plenty of things like that as a scums i assume meowmeow does as well could be to because finds it an easier interaction axis could be to push things in opposition to me while not trying to eliminate me, like there are plenty of options and it's probably a combination of many if she's a scums
idk i can't just start townreading everyone who pushes me at any point because they're unlikely to get me eliminated and they probably know that
and she started off townreading me in a preemptive way anyway
and much of the other things predate completion of micro 1087 so i don't know when the 'wariness' might have even started applying into thoughts if town
i don't actually know *exactly why* people are townreading you but i felt it was happening too quickly and i didn't understand it so i felt like it was worth bringing up
again, there is like... not a downside to bringing this up. like there isn't a downside to voting someone i scumread. i'm not sure why the standard is that i have to 'need' to do things for me to do themtry as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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i just don't think you've been towny is the crux of the issue i guessIn post 881, yekaterina wrote: like why wouldn’t you want to find town!me it’s probably easier than finding scum!me i guess i don’t get it
i'm not sure this is that productive anynmore shrugtry as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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i mean there are a couple things which i could call towny now i guess but not back thentry as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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i guess dunnstral's recent posts have been like not fantastic, there's a slight lack of bite there?
i think the sheep read is fine tbh
would be interested to hear his thoughts on shadi now since he said he likes the wagon and hasn't said anything else since then but seemed to prefer a mala vote that he didn't actually believe in very strongly?try as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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uh the superbowl wagon is like
i'm not as enthusiastic about it as the shadi wagon?
but i don't hate it either and realistically will probably end up voting there
there have been some places where he sounds like town genuinely believing what he's saying. like when he explains the ari read and he's like, "oh this is something most people don't pay attention to, how people like me strategically withdraw information!" and then in the next post he's like "oh ari is town because she didn't want to explain her datisi read but asked others about theirs" and suddenly i feel like he's townreading ari waaaay too easily and it's scummytry as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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literally maldingIn post 946, superbowl9 wrote:wait you read allat???
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thank you datisi i appreciate ittry as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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This is an insightful post; town points.In post 1006, sheepsaysmeep wrote: did he get cancelled I vaguely remember thattry as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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sheep i don't really feel very carried right nowIn post 1027, sheepsaysmeep wrote: Malakittens - meh
meowmeow* - my gut scumreads this hard, but like idk im not really interested in exploring the lim today. I think she had a good nugget about shadi's treatment of me being weird, where when shadi was prompted he was like "sheep is definitely very different than town game" but then why did he need prompting? and then later he was like that thought about sheep wasn't strong at all. idk it was weird and ausuka wrote about it very nicely
Shadi1337 - I think in the end my gut townreads this but like if it dies fine. I think from quite recent experience on MU scumreads about his General overall passivity aren't really accurate. he was like very IIOA-y day 1 and it bugged me and then like suddenly D2 solved the game I guess. I think he had some like non-appeasey comments that seemed slightly +town for him idrk lol I wouldn't actively defend this
Dunnstral - gut scumread. he's fine but like, something feels different from recent towngames with him, he's less like blunt and more trying to be like peppy tonally I guess it feels like abstractly lmao idk
Doctor Drew* - meh
superbowl9 - I think my current inclination is to just vote this? meh and like, ari townread that they were describing felt very fake. im on page 31
The Bulge - idk, meh
Save The Dragons* - gut town lol but idk
no real scum reads that pop outtry as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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oh we have 11 hours huh
i knew we were close-ish, but i thought there was more time than that
maybe the time for shadi super wagon does not really exist heretry as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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and fwiw i think my reads are like
largely similar to the large post still?
like maybe i'd change a few things but i don't think i've flipped entirely on anyone since then
maybe that's bad but shrug i haven't felt many things that strongly recently.
i guess i would add shadi feels like hanging back more? and it's working in terms of the wagon attention isn't on himtry as you might, you continue to be yourself.-
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