Mini 1138 - Candy Zoo Mafia (Game Over!)
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VOTE: Kolafers
for hating on anime so senselessly.
This is supposed to be a hate-free zoo.-
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I don't know you, and I don't know why.Nobody Special wrote:Well, I know everyone that's posted (so far). Hi!!
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She knows why.
Should I, really?-
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I do actually know why for that one.
Don't play so scummy in this game, vezok. Put a little more thought into your posts.
I have no beef with you. You will see as your "reason" plays out elsewhere.-
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Aaaaaaaaah, no, not again!!!
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No, I don't.
I don't think a massclaim of ANYTHING is a good idea.-
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All I know is that I don't know jack shit about ingredients, but I'm betting someone does, and there's a good chance that it's scum.
I won't help scum.-
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The OP suggests we will learn more about this mechanic as time goes on.
So, I'm sitting on it for now.-
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Oh, sorry, I didn't know you were SV. I do know you, and I do know why. Haha.-
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I've thought about it and I'm not sure how answering the simple question of vezok's can be that bad.
I'd prefer it not have been asked at all, this early, but now that it's on the table...
Yes.
Please no further speculation / massclaim madness.
From what I can tell, vezokpiraka has a lot more information than me and that does not sit well with me.-
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Well, he did ask that, but if anyone does that, they're derps.
But the more innocuous question is "Are baddies after your ingredients?"-
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And to be perfectly honest, I don't actually know who is after my ingredients, or even if anyone is, but I inferred a "yes." That's why I didn't want to answer. Maybe I still shouldn't have.-
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Zyrconium, it's like a half a day into the game or something.
Slow down.
Make a case on TS.-
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I appreciate the effort, Zyrc, but pushing for a lynch RIGHT NOW is still ridiculous.
I also want to play this first day at least like a normal game.-
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Hoppster, please never edit your answers into posts like that. It's really hard to read and impossible to quote later.-
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Isn't this your first post in game, Hazard?
You think you have found "obvious" scum in 4 pages? Your post bumped to page 5.
That's really ALL you have to say?
TS has earned some pressure, but people calling for lynches already? For real?-
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Hazard, have an original thought! You can do it.-
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Your second post was a nothing, Hazard.
It was a derp. Answer should be totally obvious.-
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I thought about it, but why give scum pointers on how to appear town?-
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Tunneling this early?
I swear, if someone hammers, I'll lose my mind. What kind of information can we get from a day one this short?
My top scumreads so far:
Twisted: WIFOM! WIFOM!
Mothras: Gut, using example Role PM, answering questions to others
Hoppster: Tunneling, and I don't feel it's in a town way. However... I think it's highly unlikely that both Twisted and Hoppster are scum. So, we'll see.
Much Lower:
Hazard: Active lurking ... but it's too early to really call someone out for that, so this is much more of a null.
Town:
Kalofer
vezok (despite his rolefishing, subject to change as mechanic becomes more obvious)
Zyrc (but a little bit of a sheep so far ... it's early, though)
mb (closer to null)
All of my reads are wishy-washy right now, which is why I hesitated to post them quite yet, but this game got seriously quickly. I wanted to give our less active members more time to post (plus, I have been quite busy myself).-
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Yes, they would, in hopes of being forgiven for it, like you are doing now.
You just defended WIFOM with more WIFOM.-
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If you have a case on Zyrconium, let's see it, Toasty.-
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I'm still processing your case, but most of it looks good. Haven't really gone in-depth yet, though, but I needed to ask a question: Who is TP?
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She is a zoo visitor and the flavor in the beginning makes it seem like one of the zoo visitors are the murderers.
But my gut is inclined to believe TS is town.-
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WHY DO I KEEP DOING THATTwistedspoon wrote:
I'm a he :/Amrun wrote:She is a zoo visitor and the flavor in the beginning makes it seem like one of the zoo visitors are the murderers.-
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STOP FISHING FOR TOWN PRvezokpiraka wrote:We are multiple vanillas with ingredients. It would be stupid to have only one guy who can use the ingredients.
So if someone wants to claim that they have the same role as well that is good. I don't think you should that at all but if we hadn't decided to lynch someone else than TS I say someone comes out so we can clear him.
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Hoppster: I re-read OP and agree with you. All 13 are suspicious.
I just re-read my role PM and decided something.
VOTE: twistedspoon
I believe his claim, all right. I believe that it's scum claiming his real role and attaching green text to it.
If twisted flips town, we learn something about the set-up and I learn something about my role PM.
If twisted flips scum, as I believe he will, we probably found a scumbuddy in mb53.
I had planned to make a case on him today and give twisted the benefit of the doubt, but I mis-remembered something about my own role and just realized it.
I'm starting to get a better handle on this game, I think.-
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Of course I hope not to kill a townie, twisted.
But if you are a townie, then my role PM can't be trusted in its wording.
The wording is strong enough that I will push your lynch until you are dead or I am proven wrong.
P-edit: A bad chord called OMGUS.-
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A hoppster link? Why, because he called me out for being wrong and I admitted it?
Yeah, okay. Justifying your OMGUS after the fact. Psuedo-scumhunting.
I am not washing my hands clean if you flip town. I'm simply informing everyone that if you flip town, the wording of our role PMs cannot be trusted.
There should be a couple of people who know what I mean.
Ever since your claim, something hasn't sat right with me. Why go and add the green for emphasis? Why did it feel so scummy?
Because it is a scum role, that's why.-
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I would be too lazy to fiddle with colors, obviously.
But stop pretending that's why I'm voting for you.
It's nothing personal, and in your position there was little else you could do, but for the sake of the game, you need to swing.-
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Twisted, now you hate WIFOM?
And my reason for voting for you should be blatantly obvious: my role PM indicates that the role you claimed absolutely MUST be scum.-
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Twisted, if you somehow amazingly flip town, then I will probably need to teel everyone what made me so cautious.
However, several other people will be able to corroborate and see where I am coming from.
I'm not worried anyway. Pretty sure you're scum.
Toasty: I agree about Zyrc. That same post didn't sit right with me, less for what it said and more because of timing. I thi nk it could be scum trying to get away with keeping a scumbuddy alive.
Everyone: I'd like to hear from CP and NS before the hammer.-
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Oh snap, I don't think I unvoted.
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Stop it with the "scum would have done" bullshit.
And I didn't kill you off, TS.
I wasn't the one to propose your lynch, and in fact, I never voted for you until after you were L-1 and forced to claim.
Don't even try to play that card. I would have never have had the opportunity to nail your claim as scum if you hadn't been forced to claim by others in the first place.
Saying, "I guess I'm confirmed town now, haha" only makes me want to see you lynched more.
P-edit: after the flip, if I am wrong, I'll be happy to elaborate.
Several other people have picked up on what I pointed out though.-
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Mb, how can you backtrack like that?
Please explain properly.
But I'm inclined to believe you after your reaction to vezok's questioning.-
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Agh! If you're seriously town, I can't believe what just happened!-
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I refuse to fill you in, TS. Enough damage has been done already.-
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Hoppster: I do, because of his reactions to vezok's question earlier, and also because I forgot the exact wording myself until I double checked. It's a small thing, easy to overlook when caught up in the moment.
I don't believe it unequivocally, but for now, I am satisfied.
I'm very open to continuing to scumhunt elsewhere. I already expressed suspicion of Zyrc.-
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You're going to have to elaborate at this point.
My role indicates that he must be scum.-
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Mb, another horrid backtrack.
I've changed my mind on him again. He could very well be scum.
As for Hazard, that does make me more doubtful, but am I supposed to trust you over my own role pm? I don't think so.-
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Zyrc, yes, X isn't NECESSARILY Y, but I'm not inclined to risk it until I know.
Had TS not been scummy before this...
But he was, and my role PM says what it does.
I don't see how I can ignore it. It absolutely was not a mistake or offhand comment in the PM. It's emphasized.-
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Vezok, I don't see it. My PM says he must be scum.
If he isn't scum, I can't trust the wording of my PM. Until it is proven that I shouldn't do so, I will trust my PM.-
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If you flip town, I will fully reveal WHY I thought my PM was calling you scum, TS.
The town will probably believe me, as I don't see how I can come to any other conclusion based on my role PM.
If they don't, they get another mislynch, and that's their problem.
That's how I see it.
I won't throw a fit if they decide to lynch me if you flip town, as I will understand.
But I'm not all that worried about it, as you will most likely flip scum, TS.
p-edit: Hazard, my role PM pretty much says that the role TS claimed is scum. Not town.-
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Too late for what?
Nothing will change if I reveal it now except I give scum information. Not going to happen.-
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Toasty, it IS possible that TS is an exception -- but should we assume he is an exception? If so, why?
He was acting scummy -- that's why he was forced to claim.-
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Why?
Seriously ... why?
The only information I have in this game is my own role PM. I'm damn well going to use it.
That being said, if TS had previously been playing pro-town, I wouldn't be pushing this so hard -- and in fact, I wouldn't even be in this position.
If everyone -- and I do mean EVERY PLAYER -- comes in and says they want me to paraphrase the particular part of my PM that makes me feel so strongly, I will do so.-
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TS - yes
Kalofer - yes
Mothras - lazy, let's disregard him if evryone else votes one way or the other before friday.
I really do mean averyone, here.
If even one or two people feel strongly that I shouldn't reveal, I won't, because I think there should be at least one similar pm to mine.
I am absolutely not full revealing, but I will partially reveal the part of my role relevant to the converation.i-
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I'd like to hear from everyone first to guage their responses and get as much info as possible. I hope you understand.-
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I didn't mean everyone, there. Just Zyrconium.
His last several posts are even more scummy than usual.
But I do want to hear from everybody first, which is just common sense, to me.-
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I can't explain without ... y'know ... EXPLAINING.-
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If TS is scum, my role PM isn't true.
Period. Face value, it says the role TS claimed is scum. It's emphasized, so I know it's not an accident.-
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What I meant is that if TS hadn't been scummy, he wouldn't have been at L-1 and forced to claim, so I wouldn't know his role or the role he is claiming.
Maybe other people are seeing "strongly implied" where I see explicit.
Ugh. I don't see any other possible interpretation, honestly. I'm starting to second guess myself now, though.
I really think others should have my same pm.-
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It's my 21st, and I won't spend too much time partying, but my boyfriend is coming to pick me up later, and we will be spending the weekend very busy, if you catch my drift.
So I'll be scarce this weekend. Fair warning. :p-
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It's not about you being a visitor to the zoo.
I'll just say it, since most have wighed in.
My PM says that "evil people" are after my goodies.
"Evil people" is italicized.
It doesn't say, but they might also be good people!
It says evil people unequivocally.-
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