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In post 71, Revenus wrote:I'm not going to get into a list argument with you, but let's just say I tend to respect opinions of players who are on a similair wavelength as mine when I'm scumhunting, and if they provide good scumlists then I tend to consider those opinions more heavily; playing as town is a team game. If you want to be the town superstar who doesn't need anyone elses input, then go ahead.
And if it seems like I'm excusing theam's play; I'm not. It was bad last game. it derailed day one because it was just so easy for everyone to attack him, and it allowed scum to fit right in without having to contribute.
Well yes. That's why I plan on playing normally this game.
If anyone wants to do an meta-read, newbie 1136 is the only one thats over.Its just whatever-
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In post 88, Slandaar wrote:Ama changed his vote basically because I told him to ie he flaked under very small pressure...
also I am tired, those last 2 posts were basically me thinking Z = target of policy lynch so ignoring them would be advised if you are town...
anyways Z MUST know he will get tons of heat for his last post, I do not think its a good vote
Well the reasoning was perfect, and I had no reason not to do so, so I listened.
It was RVS stage anyways, and now I feel that he deserves my vote more than anyone.Its just whatever-
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Basically, both people used rather weak reasons to attack the other, which is kinda acceptable considering theres only 7 pages, but the fact that this happens at 7 pages is kinda suspicious.
A possibility is that beck attacked Pine, who is scum, for weak reasoning, and that Pine reacted and starting attacking Beck in retaliation.
Of course, there really isn't anything I can see that currently puts one on top of the other in terms of scumminess, so I'll just
fos: beck and Pine
I'll probably change one to a vote when a majority appears on one or if one turns scummier than the other.
pedit: just saying, but considering curfews, I wont be active at all on weekdays. I could probably crank out a few posts, but It'll have to take the weekends to start posting as much as i want to.
ppedit: wth. invalid formIts just whatever-
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Almost all of Slandaar's scumhunting consists of questions.
It may not be much, but questions usually require someone to answer them in order to be counted.
So questions themselves themselves can subconciously lead people to a direction he wants, and they would assume that they thought of it themselves.
In other words, Im thinking that Slandaar is trying to lead us without people actually realizing it.
I can't tell what motive there is though.
pedit: well yeah.
Beck is that kind of person, but then his target, instead of trying to defend himself, primarily counterattacks Beck.
And apparently its Pine who attacked Beck first for his vote on zdenek for a reason unrelated to the game.
ppedit: yeah thats what I meant.
and I agree with Rev. Flakers are really annoying, but I'd give them till the Pm-prod till I start pointing them out.Its just whatever-
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In post 203, iamausername wrote:In post 195, Revenus wrote:And iam, coming in and going "well I haven't posted anything but here is a post that I think you have fluffed" isn't really doing anything and you should be posting actual game content.
I'm not saying that post is fluff. I'm saying you seem to think it's fluff, and therefore I'm wondering why you posted it.
I don't mind votes on theam because theys how that people find him scummy, but last game he was very scummy and stupid and turned out to be town so he's one of those players where even if he is scum at the end, it'l be easy for town to tell if he is. There are other options IMO.
What kinds of "scummy" things did he do in the game you're talking about? Did he, for instance, set up a totally unjustified "one of these two is scum" dichotomy, and then freely admit that he would be making no effort whatsoever to figure out which of the two it was, and would instead vote for whichever one proved to be more popular?
I am fully aware that he is the kind of player that frequently gets lynched early on regardless of his alignment. That doesn't mean he can't be scum here. I've seen his town play before, and I've wrongly suspected him before, but nonetheless, I still don't think this is his town play.
What other options do you think I should be following?
No what I said was that they were equal in scumminess and that I needed more posts to figure out who is scummier.
I said that I would vote if there was a majority, but only if I can't find that the other is any scummier.Its just whatever-
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Slandaar: posted 3 times: 2 bandwagon posts and 1 asking to remove a zdenek vote.
Beck: I'm finding funky scummier than you two, and I'm waiting for pine before decided to move one of you to myt no.2 spot
Pine: Beck is vig bait ehhh? Sounds like you already know he is town.
Yeah pine is no.2. Funky should post or die.Its just whatever-
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In post 265, Beck wrote:Bvoight, this shows scum intent.
"I'll probably change one to a vote when a majority appears on one or if one turns scummier than the other."
Ive already chosen a stance and it happens not to be the majority now, and Im not voting Pine since Funky is scummier and need to post asapIts just whatever-
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In post 359, funkybike1 wrote:VOTE: Zel1nk. In no way are you obvtown, yet you keep insisting you are. Unless you can provide a very good reason, you WILL be lynched for it.
And hello to you.
Care to actually post reads or would you like to get lynched?Its just whatever-
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These are examples of Rev scumhunting, he just mixes them in with his routine insults.Spoiler: rev's Scumhunting examples
Also for 364, I said I agree withMostof his list. Just because I think his list is good doesn't mean the maker is town.
pedit: hikari, he thinks Rev and Pine is scum for acting like they're scumhunting but they are in fact not at all.Its just whatever-
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In post 417, ScreamingHawk wrote:
Amateur is keeping pretty quiet re his thoughts. Would like to here more.
Why still holding the vote on Zde?
I don't like posting cases till there's sufficient evidence since it just confuses town.
Also, I'm voting funky, not zde.Its just whatever-
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In post 501, Beck wrote:Theam, why is your play much calmer this game?
Also, do you have a completed scum game on site?
If yes, link please.
Well there hasnt been anyone screaming "OMG I AM SO TOTALLY SCUM" and there hasn't been anybody defending said person, so yeah.
And I have never had a scum role.Its just whatever-
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In post 516, Slandaar wrote:In post 500, theamatuer wrote:
Pine: one of beck/Pine is scum, and Pine seems the better canidate of the two
Why?
why does one have to be scum?
why cant they both be town?
what has alerted you to the fact one of them HAS to be scum?
I feel that one of them should be scum based on the interaction between Beck and Pine
That possibility could happen, but one of them being scum is way more possible.
And they dont HAVE to be scum, its they SHOULD be scum due to their constant attacking of each other.Its just whatever-
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Oh, did I catch you off guard?In post 520, Pine wrote:In post 517, theamatuer wrote:In post 516, Slandaar wrote:In post 500, theamatuer wrote:
Pine: one of beck/Pine is scum, and Pine seems the better canidate of the two
Why?
why does one have to be scum?
why cant they both be town?
what has alerted you to the fact one of them HAS to be scum?
I feel that one of them should be scum based on the interaction between Beck and Pine
That possibility could happen, but one of them being scum is way more possible.
And they dont HAVE to be scum, its they SHOULD be scum due to their constant attacking of each other.
The bolded is astunninglogical fallacy. Shit, I don't even know whether that makes him more or less scummy at this point. If I thought he were feigning that kind of illogic, or trying to manipulate others into believing it, then yeah. But if he actually believes that makes sense, that throws a lot of my read off. It's like fencing with an 8-year-old (nerd alert). When fencing a novice adult, an experienced fencer can beat them easily, because adults (or at least those prone to taking up fencing) have been inundated their whole lives with poor examples of the skill. They're predictable and it's easy to get in their head. But children are sometimes the most frustrating opponents, because you don't knowwhatthe fuck they're going to do. Or why. Total wild cards, even if their attacks don't make an ounce of sense, they can catch you off-guard by how ridiculous they are.
But why do you need to be on guard in the first place?
To defend an argument? But why if you claim that I'm an idiot and my cases are stupid?
Or is it because you're afraid a supposedly better player comes and attacks you?
But why are you afraid of that if you're town?
Unless You're not.
No. I know several players that softclaim PR as an VT to pull off scumkills. Softclaims should NEVER be cc'd by the real PR, only HARDCLAIMS.In post 531, Pine wrote:In post 523, Revenus wrote:Fencing's gay.
Seriously though, get an avatar. It makes it a lot easier to pick out your posts when skimming through to find quotes and points you've made, and there's a significant subconscious benefit to having an image to immediately associate with a name.
And Pops, you just can't resist the opportunity to provide a bunch of off-topic content when the chance presents itself, can you? Apply that level of commitment to the actual game, and I wouldn't be as suspicious of you.
Claiming or softclaiming PRs of any kind on D1 (not counting L-1 "claim or die" moments) is a bad idea in most cases, as it unnecessarily gives scum information and insight into your thought processes. A Townie fakeclaiming and even fakesoftclaiming can force a real PR into counterclaiming for a supposed scum kill, resulting in an otherwise innocent Townie being mislynched. Fakeclaiming vig is especially stupid, as it will very often lead to the REAL vig saying "Aha! That's either scum or the SK setting up a vig fakeclaim. I'll shoot him to find out." And we again have a dead fakeclaimer, with the added benefit of a wasted friendly fire shot.
^See? That's all that needed to be said. It isn't a discussion that will eat up half a day and a dozen posts, it's an experienced player takingpartof asinglepost to completely defeat the incorrect idea, explain why, and re-educate. I'm moving on from this off-topic conversation and so should everyone else.
PE: Four more fucking fluff posts about this since I started typing? Shut the fuck up about it, people.
In post 550, Pine wrote:In post 547, funkybike1 wrote:In post 531, Pine wrote:In post 523, Revenus wrote:Fencing's gay.
Seriously though, get an avatar. It makes it a lot easier to pick out your posts when skimming through to find quotes and points you've made, and there's a significant subconscious benefit to having an image to immediately associate with a name.
And Pops, you just can't resist the opportunity to provide a bunch of off-topic content when the chance presents itself, can you? Apply that level of commitment to the actual game, and I wouldn't be as suspicious of you.
Claiming or softclaiming PRs of any kind on D1 (not counting L-1 "claim or die" moments) is a bad idea in most cases, as it unnecessarily gives scum information and insight into your thought processes. A Townie fakeclaiming and even fakesoftclaiming can force a real PR into counterclaiming for a supposed scum kill, resulting in an otherwise innocent Townie being mislynched. Fakeclaiming vig is especially stupid, as it will very often lead to the REAL vig saying "Aha! That's either scum or the SK setting up a vig fakeclaim. I'll shoot him to find out." And we again have a dead fakeclaimer, with the added benefit of a wasted friendly fire shot.
^See? That's all that needed to be said. It isn't a discussion that will eat up half a day and a dozen posts, it's an experienced player takingpartof asinglepost to completely defeat the incorrect idea, explain why, and re-educate. I'm moving on from this off-topic conversation and so should everyone else.
PE: Four more fucking fluff posts about this since I started typing? Shut the fuck up about it, people.
Keep this post right here in mind.
I lol'd. You can be Town...for now.
I think your wit is lost on at least 75% of the thread, though.
A sharp wit does not a townie make.Its just whatever-
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In post 593, Revenus wrote:scum can't lurk? ok.
In a game of 22 players, i'd expect around 7 scum.
You really think no scum are lurking? We have like 10 players who have under 5 posts. I'd like to see them post more. It's early in the day.
Doesn't matter though as your reasons for voting and unvoting me in the past were mind bogglingly idiotic and with your vote being cast around like its worthless, I really don't care that you're joining my wagon, which BTW is populated by 2 people who haven't been on in over 2 days.
tbh, I'd say 4-5, plus a vig/SK. 7 is a little too much.
But yeah. One of the lurkers is probably scum. Im saying Funky.Its just whatever-
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In post 793, Revenus wrote:Statements like "youre both town" scream: "I know you're both town because I know who everone in town is and it suits my purpose to tell you who is town because guess what? I'm scum"
In other words: "I can tell you who is town and whos not since it would totally not make people suspicious of me and totally help me win"
And I did read both of you as town regardless of what the other says. A town on a town causes nothing but endless headache and a chance for scum to latch on and push one's lynch easily , then push for the other if he's able enough.
pedit- Rev is town since his play matches what I know of him-Offensive and offensive, rapid-fire, and attacking whoever says contrary to him. He does make excellent points if you ISO him and read through the lines.Its just whatever-
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In post 826, Revenus wrote:Actually, theam has been looking better of late. You, on the other hand, are firmly off of my Town list and sinking through the neutral categories. Less for the mediocre reasons others have posted about you, and more due to your unflagging willingness to pursue any avenue of discussion ad infinitum, no matter how useless or distracting to the game.
I don't want to misinterpret what you're saying, so I'd like you to explain what kind of discussion you want from me.
And, theam looks better simply because I don't trust his reads and him appearing to have decent reads makes me wary of him. There's such a thing as having too good a game, but like I said, theam's looking bad to me today isn't something I want to go over on d1 when it could just be new found clarity
I thought I told you that my play in 1156 was shit and I'd plan on playing normally in this game.
And sv. I expect you tomorrow.Its just whatever-
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In post 984, bvoigt wrote:Apparently I never did this:
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In post 900, theamatuer wrote:@slandaar: its not that I think you're scum right now, its that you're a null for me, and that your scumhunting consists of too many questions and not enough statements.
Most people that say you're town do not give a case, esp username. So yeah/
And funky should post info.
What is wrong with asking questions instead of stating things? Do you think it's scummy?
Revenus: Can you answer my questions? They may not seem like much, but I do think they'll help me get a read on you.
In post 929, popsofctown wrote:In post 915, Slandaar wrote:Rev, I need to know how much experience do you have playing mafia?
Revenus is at Glorklike levels and is (rather evidently) a grandmaster of the game of mafia. We are blessed that he has graced us with his participation in this game. His mastery of every nuance of the game lets him tap into scumtells everyone else misses
I thought that was Shattered Viewpoint!
Well its more or less a psychological issue, but issuing your thoughts through questions instead of statements makes people subconsiously agree with you more often.
In post 985, Pine wrote:In post 977, Faraday wrote:
Explain this Pine, I expect better from you. (Zelink IS and WAS obvtown,) I don't buy for a second you believe that calling onself town is a scumtell so what gives?
Keep reading. It was a sarcastic/frustration-driven vote that didn't have my weight behind it.
By the way, folks, I'd like to caution you to take Faraday's posts with a few grains of salt. I've heard him boast about having never been lynched as scum, which is quite an exceptional achievement. I was leaning towards Town on IAAUN, but there wasn't much to work with. Just be careful, Faraday is outstanding as Town but truly masterful as scum.
Well assuming he got a best town act scummy, I'd hope so.Its just whatever-
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In post 1009, Slandaar wrote:In post 1006, theamatuer wrote:No, I meant town reads.
k, you can still explain them though ?
Well I've thought rev and beck were town for a very long time.
Faraday feels town from his reads and posts, plus he's a rather experienced player.Its just whatever-
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that fail copypaste.
alsoUNVOTE: funky
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In post 1065, Slandaar wrote:In post 1058, theamatuer wrote:well I feel that he's about equal scumminess with pops
Why?
Pops tries to stifle down softclaiming altogether along with hypocrisy.
SV is obnoxious, and claims to have found all the scum at d1. He also claims a person is scummy while refusing to tell us the reason.
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In post 1083, Beck wrote:Rev is my top suspect, nobody will lynch him even if I've guranteed he is scum and offered myself up for tomorrow.
SV is probably scum too, I have a strong gut read on you, but haven't comb'd through your iso yet to make a case.
Because if we do follow through your plan, all that will happen are 2 mislynches.Its just whatever-
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In post 1247, ZeL1nK wrote:I fuckng swear if we take every player in this game whose alias begins with "S" and lynch them, we'll nail most of the scum team.
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VOTE: SodaSpirit
So anyway, vijay's giant wall and recent posts actually make me think he's town.
Getting a little tired of slandaar v thad and I'm probably going to skim or completely skip their posts until I think I want to lynch one of them.
I also think NS reads are good... In that, if you take his reads and go in the complete opposite direction, you're very likely to find scum. That said, NS, give me your 3 top town reads. I want them lynched D1/D2/D3.
I'd mention Beck but he's an attention whore and ignoring him for the rest of the game seems like a good option.
Does anyone think sodaspirit is anything other than scum? Tell me now so I can line up lynches.
Ares.
I just so happened to watch that episode.Its just whatever-
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In post 1252, theamatuer wrote:In post 1247, ZeL1nK wrote:I fuckng swear if we take every player in this game whose alias begins with "S" and lynch them, we'll nail most of the scum team.
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VOTE: SodaSpirit
So anyway, vijay's giant wall and recent posts actually make me think he's town.
Getting a little tired of slandaar v thad and I'm probably going to skim or completely skip their posts until I think I want to lynch one of them.
I also think NS reads are good... In that, if you take his reads and go in the complete opposite direction, you're very likely to find scum. That said, NS, give me your 3 top town reads. I want them lynched D1/D2/D3.
I'd mention Beck but he's an attention whore and ignoring him for the rest of the game seems like a good option.
Does anyone think sodaspirit is anything other than scum? Tell me now so I can line up lynches.
Ares.
I just so happened to watch that episode.
This was not suppsed to happen.
But since Im posting, I'll say that SV is still the lynch I think is the best for today.Its just whatever-
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In post 1271, funkybike1 wrote:Speaking of useless, this post.
Exactly.
Now is your claim at L-7/8 real or not?Its just whatever-
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theamatuer Mafia Scum
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In post 1086, theamatuer wrote:In post 1083, Beck wrote:Rev is my top suspect, nobody will lynch him even if I've guranteed he is scum and offered myself up for tomorrow.
SV is probably scum too, I have a strong gut read on you, but haven't comb'd through your iso yet to make a case.
Because if we do follow through your plan, all that will happen are 2 mislynches.
Lynching rev then himself if Rev flips townIts just whatever-
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