Lulz.Cream147 wrote:Vote: Populartajo
Confirmed townie last time. Law of averages says he's confirmed scum this time.
Hi Cream. How have you been?
Random even if you dont believe me.
Lulz.Cream147 wrote:Vote: Populartajo
Confirmed townie last time. Law of averages says he's confirmed scum this time.
I was talking to Empking. We have an interesting relationship.zwetschenwasser wrote:Why did you have to add the last part? Who said anything was wrong with Emp votes?
Llol, im not gay and even if i were, Empking would definitely not be one of my choices (no offense ).zwetschenwasser wrote:Don't worry. Gay marriage will be legalized soon.
because Law would have told us, specially if it gives scum an autowin, dont ya think?Gorrad wrote:I wasn't in the last game, but Rule #13 seems pretty specific. How do you know there's not another thing like Peach being kidnapped?
I NEVER said it was a good idea. Im evaluating it right now and waiting for everybody's opinions on this.AceMarksman wrote:massclaim is a bad idea, and based on MKMI, helps scum.
kay this makes sense.Gorrad wrote:I trust Lawrencelot to create a game that could not be broken by a name claim (Wow, end rhymes FTW). If he says that mass claiming is a bad idea, I trust that it's a bad idea.populartajo wrote:because Law would have told us, specially if it gives scum an autowin, dont ya think?Gorrad wrote:I wasn't in the last game, but Rule #13 seems pretty specific. How do you know there's not another thing like Peach being kidnapped?
could it be for a townie trying to break the game?AceMarksman wrote:I feel the suggestion of a massclaim a move that is most likely to come from a scum-aligned entity.
except the only reason why massclaim was a bad idea in the last game was ONLY due to Peach's clause.AceMarksman wrote:Yes, but you seem to have a sufficient knowledge of the first mushroom kingdom mafia game, no? It would stand to reason, then, that you would know that a massclaim would more likely than not tip the scales in the scum's favor.
Ive already said that if there was a clause of those features (scum auto win), Law would have already said it.AceMarksman wrote:I am not fixated in the idea that you are scum. Not by a longshot. No, you have only exhibited one thing that I would attribute to scum. Being so early in the game, that makes you the scummiest atm, but this is subject to change.
How do you know this game does not have a similar clause?
i seem to be missing something here.qwints wrote:This isn't a bastard mod game, is it? Otherwise, it seems that we'd need a real good reason to think about massclaiming when the rules suggest against it. This point (which others have made) leads me to:
vote:populartajo
Except that we are not protecting Peach this time.Empking wrote:I really dislike this part, it seems to say (to me) "and find out who's this game's "peach"."populartajo wrote:
3. Therefore, I wanted to evaluate the possibility of name massclaiming. Im not in favor or against it, IM JUST EVALUATING IT with the town.
You think I am scum, Emp?Empking wrote:By ""Peach"", I didn't mean the role name "Peach", I meant "role to benefit scum in the event of a mass claim"populartajo wrote:Except that we are not protecting Peach this time.Empking wrote:I really dislike this part, it seems to say (to me) "and find out who's this game's "peach"."populartajo wrote:
3. Therefore, I wanted to evaluate the possibility of name massclaiming. Im not in favor or against it, IM JUST EVALUATING IT with the town.
Are you?
Did you read MKMI?AceMarksman wrote:tajo: because rule 13 is very specific warning us not to, and it was a bad idea in MKMI.
Surye: Oh yeah, I didn't think that number of votes would be indicative of role importance.
No, no. Thats like asking someone why do you disagree with a random event. I want to know his reasons.pacman281292 wrote:Pop, that looks as if you were supporting a name massclaim.populartajo wrote:Ace, why are you against a massclaim?
Precisely, plz.
It looks like.pacman281292 wrote:In the way you state it, it looks like if you were for.populartajo wrote:No, no. Thats like asking someone why do you disagree with a random event. I want to know his reasons.pacman281292 wrote:Pop, that looks as if you were supporting a name massclaim.populartajo wrote:Ace, why are you against a massclaim?
Precisely, plz.
Yeah, pretty much.zwetschenwasser wrote:Darn... And I was hoping I was scum. I'm part of bowser's army, and I also don't know who is who. I think that revealing this is what poptajo was aiming for.
Im still analysing reactions but this is by far the most I dislike.Shadow Knight wrote:vote Surye
I didn't have any confusion about which side I'm on and it feels like you're trying too hard to find something scummy so soon into this game.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH SIR.Surye wrote:The irony is that a mass claim BEFORE we realized what was going on would have probably broken the game. Bowsers army would fake claim thinking we were mafia of some sort, pretending to be mario roles, and mushroom kingdom may have caught on, and may have caught on, and role claimed either their real role, or a bowser role, causing.... okay, it's too convoluted to predict, but it would have been interesting ;Pzwetschenwasser wrote:So this is why a massclaim was bad...
Kay, so as soon as you read your PM, you realized that you were town, or you had any doubts about it?Shadow Knight wrote:Because I can read flavor and my role PM and *not* be stupid? The mushroom kingdom is invading us... I am part of bowser's castle... I don't see anyone else's name in my role PM...populartajo wrote:How the hell you werent confused about which side when you get "supposedly" a Bowser Army PM?
What?Shinnen_no_Me wrote:Truly, tajo, with your question you make me think that you didn't know for sure who the town is. If you knew that town is bowser army, you wouldn't have asked about a Mario claim.
Exactly.Moratorium wrote:What's confusing to me right now is that although I'm a member of bowser's army, which has a pretty specific townie win condition, the powers granted by the items available to us for purchase are...
...
(how to put this in a way only townies should understand)
...
Unexpected.
Could you please point me to this slip you are talking about?Shinnen_no_Me wrote:Yeah, how so Zwet?
@Surye: So, I'm scum because I voted for zwet, after he slipped like that? Sorry, I do find suspicious his slip (the slip that he didn't know alignment of bowser army), but after a long thought, I'm thinking that zwet is not likely scum but third party. One way or another, I don't think he knew who the town was, hence he's not town.
Kay. Anyone not knowing the flavour or a little less "intelligent" than you, could still be confused about his role?Shadow Knight wrote:I read my PM. Paused. Read the PM again. Checked the flavor of the game. Went "Ohhh, duh." Total elapsed time: roughly 30 seconds.
I actually PMed the mod.Shadow Knight wrote:If you got a role PM that made you confused, would you not PM the mod or read the flavor from the opening posts before running in here and posting something?
Really, Shadow Knight?Shadow Knight wrote:vote Surye
I didn't have any confusion about which side I'm on and it feels like you're trying too hard to find something scummy so soon into this game.
Actually, why would we only confirm or out 4 players?Moratorium wrote:The unimaginative answer to this is something like "Pick four people, ask them to paraphrase the powers of the four Bowser's Army items".populartajo wrote: Wait a second.
We have items that only Bowser's Army know how they work.
Can we massively confirm people with this?
Pro: Four players are either confirmed or outed.
Con: The item powers are revealed to all.
Oh, I didnt see you had already posted, I thought you left the site...killa seven wrote:Why do you people hate me :*(populartajo wrote:Law, can you replace Dubya and K7?
Its a risk we should take.Shadow Knight wrote:I do not have descriptions.
I also feel that this is a stupid idea and will just narrow down which of us can buy/use items.
But thats only the first part of the plan, pacman...pacman281292 wrote:It's useless. That's what Law did; put people town that can't buy items and confirm themselves.
The only good thing I would see on that is that it puts the scum on WIFOM... but I think it's too risky. I disagree with that thing.
Actually Im not a powerful role but I still can buy items.Shinnen_no_Me wrote:Now that I think about this, I find it to be a not so good idea. If we assume as true that some roles can't buy items, we will assume that the ones that can are more powerful.
pacman281292 wrote:I hate you, specially when you say exactly what I was going to sayShinnen_no_Me wrote:Now that I think about this, I find it to be a not so good idea. If we assume as true that some roles can't buy items, we will assume that the ones that can are more powerful. By claiming who can and who can't, we're just giving the mafia a pretty good list of who they should kill at nights. Sorry, but I'm not finding that a very smart thing to do.
And what if the mod doesnt have measures against it?ortolan wrote:I highly doubt it. No practical way of doing it, game-breaking so presumably the mod has measures against it etc.
Agree that kind of strategy (confirming by the 7th letter is lame) but nobody has proposed that. We are proposing asking questions about what the items do. But thx for calling the mod again for at least trying to break the game.ortolan wrote:True. By paraphrasing the effects. Technically we would do something really lame like "what is the seventh letter in the description for this item" but I don't think that will be treated kindly by the mod,amirite, mod?
Make a stance, do you think scum have items description in their PMs or nor?ortolan wrote:Very good point which I thought of as well. The interesting thing about this, though, is that (possibly ) at least one of the items seems to be rendered useless or at least much less useful if one's enemy knows what it does (which may suggestMora wrote:So is the assumption here that basically Law didn't put anything in the scum role pm's that says "Hey, by the way, in case town tries this tactic, here's the list of items that town can buy and their powers"?they can't knowwhat our items do).
And what if he can?ortolan wrote:Nah I'm actually getting increasingly against this idea.If scum do knowwhat the items do already then we're heavily shooting ourselves in the foot. I'm convinced Lawrencealot wouldn't allow us to catch scum in this manner.
Am I really doing that, ortolan? Tell me how I am rolefishing and itemfishing. Does it mean that all people that are agreeing with my plan are also rolefishing and itemfishing?ortolan wrote:This is the second time tajo has role/itemfished, and in a different manner to the first time. Strongly considering moving my vote back onto him.