Dichotomafia- Games Over

[PeaceBringer]

so I take it that a protection then only covers one form of attack. If attacked by a mafia and vig and protected/healed by doctor then the player will die.

Which attack would get credit for death in that situation?

[PeaceBringer]

I would think that being alive in one and dead in another, if dead in the other that you would not be allowed to reveal the info in the other game.

Think of it as being in more then one game at a time, you don't go giving information in one game about your role in another. I would think same here, and would expect failure to do so would result in mod kill. But that is my read, interested of course in mods answer.

[PeaceBringer]

I also don't really care if one or 2

[PeaceBringer]

well since no cub and no quag

vote STD

[PeaceBringer]

my vote is randomn-- I am voting off my day one list.

[PeaceBringer]

isn't random-- isn't

[PeaceBringer]

nope wrong a again--

STD you are just cause of the game antagonizism and good to have a rival

Cubs fan is a bear fan and talked a lot of smack in scum chat


Quag is a lion fan and did a lot of smack talking so I told them they made my list.

Just a meaningless vote that means nothing until we have something to go on--

not really any different then the IS obsession with Tally or any other stuff that happens.

[PeaceBringer]

I'll play along,

vote Tally.

Still would like to hear from folks who haven't checked in yet.

[PeaceBringer]

First of all I made it clear I was looking to see what MMCL was pointing at--

Tally is hardly lurking but have seen MMCL be right on no reason voting- also think I will probably get a handle on MMCL soon enough but want to see where is vote out of no where for a nonsense reason does.

And Wacky is the last to check in--

-Uraj45, Willow, ralpmerr...., fishbulb, are the true lurkers as this point and one post between them-- I would have hoped in this game that we have active players.
and lulu has a grand total of 2-nanook a total of 3

not sure if it is there style to lurk but there is bound to be a scum in that set-- of course is likely at least one scum in the active players as well.

So I will leave my vote as is for now and see what happens.

[PeaceBringer]

I also want to here more from MMCL about his reasoning--

[PeaceBringer]

And Wacky is the last to check in--

-Uraj45, Willow, ralpmerr...., fishbulb, are the true lurkers[...]

Ahaha. While I'm waiting, I'll

Vote: PeaceBringer

. You're trying too hard. Far too hard. In any case I don't tend to lurk as scum.

this is how I play wacky-- take a look at all my games here-- scum or town this is how I play.

Where I came from games finish in a week and there is tons more mosting and I tended to be a more frequent poster in those games. This pace is like a turtle to me but enables me to do more games.

But at least you voted instead of just pointing a finger. LOL.

[PeaceBringer]

Sorry if I've been quiet; I'm not as familiar with the people on mafiascum, so I'm observing until I have more of a feel for this game. I'm kind of suspicious of PB; he explicitly says his vote is "not random", then admits it was arbitrary.

umm- random and arbitrary do not mean the same thing.

and not sure which vote you are taking about.

Vote on STD is arbitary and just spurring rivalry. Vote on tally is following MMCL lead and not random or arbitrary.

Random is picking a name out of a hat based on nothing but chance.

Aribitrary is just casting a vote based on nothing. My vote on STD was arbitrary as are all first day votes be they random or not.

Funny I point at you for lurking and you take a shot as does wacky. Interesting reactions.

[PeaceBringer]

Hmm i get the point MMCL-- I see what you mean on post #2 regarding talitha-

[PeaceBringer]

well I don't play like you are used to- and I made the context of my vote clear.

in other words I am not most people and try not to read to much into anything I say.

I have no control over what you or others may perceive of my choices of words or play given I don't know what most people do--

[PeaceBringer]

do here that is--

[PeaceBringer]

Fish-- I know my posting style gets me in trouble.

I have multiple months of experience with playing the game with how I post. And yes I know how I play gets me suspected but it is how I play best. I am who I am.

I try and proofread but I have a long history of posting on the fly and posting like I think, so often I neglect it. If you think my posts here lack proofreading you should see some of what I post at Footballguys. I am calm perfectly.

The problem with reading into things Fishbulb is people take a context and apply it to a person and base a judgement on that without prior context. You make assumptions about my play and read into it based on experience with other players here you may find yourself mistaken. Just ask Tally. At any rate this is well off the point of the game and a significant tangent.

Nanook- I got no problem with the reactions, I expect them. Just pointed them out. Reactions are particularly important here when folks seem to shy away from even posting. Oh and LOL nanook- you have not been a posting fiend yourself.

[PeaceBringer]

I admit chronic poster at any rate yeah I could put stuff all in one post except cannot edit and stuff comes to my mind after I post something.

I already have put a big slow down on my tendency to post. Part of it is I like to get reactions and see reactions and of course have an excessive need to comment on stuff--LOL.

[PeaceBringer]

Fishbulb, I find insulting someone based on how they play the game to be highly offensive. I will not stoop any further to discussing how I play the game, how I post, and whatever else may suit you. It is a tangent and not helpful to the game. I offered explaination. THis is a game, let people post and interact as they will. If you all want to lynch me based on how I post it is no wonder that lurkers abound around here, it is encouraged. If you care to have further non game discussion do so in private. Realize I am not you and don't expect be to play the game like you. Don't even expect me to post as you would like me to post. This is my last comment on the matter, let's just play the freaking game.

[PeaceBringer]

Fishbulb, okay one last comment. I understand your comment and again if you want to discuss with me how I post and play the game lets take off. Yes, I defend my posting style and way I play the game. I do this for fun. Whether people listen to me or not I cannot control. Yes, I can slow down and edit and will try and do so but it is my nature to not care as much about those details. I can usually clarify my meaning if misunderstood and there of things of course I would have no clue on, such as folks taking "not random vote" to mean that I would suggest being an investigator. Elsewhere I say that, it is taken as that. So yes I can work on slowing down and using complete sentences. It is just a long habit of message board and internet posting. But you came off as aggressive and arrogant which I did not appreciate, especially with the get lynched first every game threat which was way out of line. I treat folks with respect and expect the same other then game related jabs. You took it beyond the game into the metagame reagarding my play. And yes, I realize that I need to be more careful but in playing a game the trick is to adapt to who is playing and how they communicate and not be so rigid. So enough on this Fishbulb, any thing more please take it outside the game.


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As to the game, I can see the sense of what MMCL is getting at in his suspscion. I don't think Tally was using emotional blackmail though. So if that is what MMCL is reacting to then I need to reconsider. I hate pushing a role player to claim on day one. What I saw in the post #2 that alarmed me was the I will have to work hard to keep straight when I am in village and when town. We of course all do but I found the pointing that out to be a possible slip but not sure why. However since he have got pressure on Tally and she has hinted at Role may be worthwhile. I could certainly go after somone not activeily particiaping in the game at the moment as well.

[PeaceBringer]

Okay I willl play along-

Vote Lulu

[PeaceBringer]

Okay, I looked things over again and MMCL I think you are wrong on Talitha.
I do at least one of lulu, wacky, nanook, or URAJ is scum and a vote for one of those 4 would be appropriate.

I followed Talitha's vote to lulu and that may be a good vote.

I do think that set of 4 is a good place to start and I think MMCL's vote did a good job of luring in a scum but we just have to figure out which of that set of 4 is scum. Maybe we got lucky and have more then one scum but I bet we have at least one.

[PeaceBringer]

Okay, I will play along. I have seen reasons to not suspect Tailtha but given MMCL claim that it is based on info and I have seen him play strongly I cannot help but follow suit. Okay, I will play along. I have seen reasons to not suspect Tailtha but given MMCL claim that it is based on info and I have seen him play strongly I cannot help but follow suit.

Vote Talitha

[PeaceBringer]

I craft my replies???

I have yet to try the preview button. No idea how that happened. Probably pasted twice because I was going to vote and posting in quick reply when I realized I wanted to vote. Must have pasted twice.

That is the first time I have ever been accused of carefuly crafting my replies...lol

[PeaceBringer]

oh and thanks MMCL -- since I never tried Preview at least knowingly I didn't know that the "posting tools" were available. All this time I have been cutting and pasting and then bolding votes after hiting add reply. This is far easier.

[PeaceBringer]

STD- I understand the play. In general keeping claim vague keeps the scum guessing. Granted if we had full information from MMCL we can make a better decision on whether to follow his lead.

[PeaceBringer]

okay I am going thinking of unvoting now againI hate this-

It is like a tennis match right now. Well I am going to leave my vote where it is for the minute but I am not convinced.

Do we need to push the MMCL-Tally question further or let it sort it self out with more information? One problem MMCL is whatever your role is, we don't know all the roles and all the ways you could be wrong or why. And many roles can catch innocents along with the guilty.

Do we want to push Tally to claim here as well?

If we go in another direction what would be a good target?

The one's initially on the Tally vote might be a good place to start.

[PeaceBringer]

I don't want to lynch either Tally or MMCL-

unvote if I haven't

[PeaceBringer]

Okay, I looked things over again and MMCL I think you are wrong on Talitha.
I do (think) at least one of lulu, wacky, nanook, or URAJ is scum and a vote for one of those 4 would be appropriate.

I can easily cast a vote for one of those four at the moment and rather easily vote for nanook- anyone else have a thought other then MMCL?

[PeaceBringer]

vote Nannook

as good a target as any and one of the 4 I suggested might be BG on Talitha's vote

[PeaceBringer]

uunvote Nanook, vote Lulu-

[PeaceBringer]

I decided to show everyone Peacebringer's vote pattern and reasoning as no one seems to agree with me on his actions. If these posts aren't scummy then I don't know what are.

well since no cub and no quag

vote STD

I'll play along,

vote Tally

.

You guys mentioned earlier about how I forgot that I voted Talitha, but at least I admitted it. Peacebringer votes talitha again after doing so once and his reasoning is practically the same, which is that he will play along. uh?

Okay, I will play along. I have seen reasons to not suspect Tailtha but given MMCL claim that it is based on info and I have seen him play strongly I cannot help but follow suit. Okay, I will play along. I have seen reasons to not suspect Tailtha but given MMCL claim that it is based on info and I have seen him play strongly I cannot help but follow suit.

Vote Talitha

I don't want to lynch either Tally or MMCL-

unvote if I haven't

vote Nannook

as good a target as any and one of the 4 I suggested might be BG on Talitha's vote

uunvote Nanook, vote Lulu

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For someone with so many votes he surely doesn't seem to care much who receives it, he just adds onto other people's thoughts and takes advantage of it. This is what I think is scummy and my vote will remain on him until he is lynched or killed.

I switch votes Nanook-- it is what I do.

Unvote LULU vote Nanook

Go look at Footballguys if you have any question to it.

However given a little pressure you have decided to try and turn heat on me. Interesting move I find, since you have played games with me and have seen me vote switch and have seen quick votes pile on me.

This tells me that keep vote on you is the place to stay. It is always interesting the reactions you can get sometime.

[PeaceBringer]

atually Unvote--

Nanook hasn't been in many games after all and fairly common reaction to my play.

[PeaceBringer]

so you vote for me because you don't like my play and are actually trying to start a diversion.

revote Nanook

[PeaceBringer]

and here is a shocker--

the PeaceBringer day one train starts yet again...I am far from impressed

this one started by nanook when pressure on him or lulu started.

please look elsewhere we have perfectly good reason to vote either nanook or lulu-- in my book more so Nanook at this point.

[PeaceBringer]

Yeah-- Nanook it would be real easy to know who is who if I were scum.

SINCE I AM PROTOWN I don't have any real idea who is who-- funny how that works. It really would not benefit the town to continue with the vote in this direction.

[PeaceBringer]

Unvote: Lulu

We can definitely find out later on if she's lying, but as long as we still have her on our sight I think it will be ok. So we are watching you Lulu!

And PB, I am almost tired of your excuse

always

being "that's how I play". We ALL play the way we play, it's obvious since we are playing, but your jumping from one place to another with no reasonings is very scummy-looking. I hadn't noticed this before actually, it might be because the way

I

play is a bad one, but I don't use that as an excuse. I think we might have to get more replies from you, please give us more than just "that's how I play" because I think most of us won't take that.

Vote: PeaceBringer

and I believe this is the 5th vote on him, but I am not

entirely

sure, it might be the 6th, a vote count would help

Ok give this response---
yes I vote switch-- I will continue to vote switch-- if the culture of Mafia keeps wanting to push me to claim or get lynched day one it will be sad.

But fair enough once again you push me to claim my Role-

I am a roleblocker---I obviously do not know for fact wether the person I blocked or not is scum. I had hoped time to figure it out but alas no such luck.

The person I blocked was Uraj45- I mentioned him once when he jumped on Talitha but actually hope to just mull around with my vote and figure it out. But know once again a diversion toward me worked and you out a role player.... HAPPY?

[PeaceBringer]

nanook-- a little comment about what you just said--

I don't follow the crowd, I play the way I play. If "mafiescum" players try and force everyone to play the same way by pushing to lynch day one of folks they don't like the play style then that is sad.

At any rate- you got your claim, my vote will not change.

[PeaceBringer]

Funny Nanook-- you sure are still trying hard after I have role claimed...

If you look at the context of Newbie 53 and what I did is quite different then what I did here.

And in general I am more prone to switch votes on day one in any game then later in the game because I am looking for information. Reading reactions and behaviors gives me information-plus the voting shifts also gives me another read. Are my reads accurate all the time certainly not, do I always changes votes even, no. But it is my primary day one play and I was trying to blend in and not stand out here, which is why the increased following votes trying to avoid claiming.

And Nanook-- no you didn't ask for claim-- Sildago's vote essentially did... I could wait and see if I get one or 2 more votes but I have been around enough to know what point I have to claim, I didn't want to and was trying to blend in to not have to claim.

[PeaceBringer]

I'm going to back down from my vote for now,

unvote: PeaceBringer

, and hope that maybe Uraj can give us some more insight. He might not be able to, and if that's the case, we might try to confirm Peacebringer's role some other time instead. Also, I didn't ask for a roleclaim either. I am not too sure if I like the idea of bandwaggoning for role claims, although some times it is necessary, and I mostly hate it when it happens to me, but I did ask you for more posts. All I wanted was more posts that we can look at and see if we could catch you in a lie/slip or anything that would give us assurance that you are scum. Do note that I am not repriminding you for your role claim, as you had lynch-3 votes.

I think I won't vote for now until I read more from others.

Sorry if I misunderstood you intent Silgado-- first time someone actually wanted to hear more from me, except when I am not posting much where I play elsewhere and they suddenly think I am being scummy. The psychology of the game.

Oh-- a point to make too Nanook- I don't believe for a minute that you never heard the term lynch bait.

[PeaceBringer]

Funny Nanook-- you sure are still trying hard after I have role claimed...

When you put as much time as I did into that, you would too.

No I would not, not unless I had something I was trying to hide or spin away from. And I give you that doing all that quoting takes time and is work, especially when you avoid the total context.

That kind of behavior to me is way scummy... more scummy then switching votes on day one when no one has any clue yet.

[PeaceBringer]

Your play style (and not just in this game) screams "I don't care who we lynch, just kill somebody!" To many people on this site, that looks scummy, so you're getting lynched. Surely you can see why that might appear a scummy attitude to take. Eventually people might get used to it, but what that's going to mean is that townies will stop paying attention to you altogether and scum will try to use you to get other innocents lynched. That isn't a strategy designed to help town win, and I would think you would want to change a play style with those sorts of results.

That is a key misunderstanding of how I play. I use votes as a tool. To cast a vote on someone doesn't mean that you are looking to get that person lynched. There are many reasons to caste a vote. When I shift a vote on day one for me it is about gathering information and reactions. When I don't shift a vote day one I am still watching.

[PeaceBringer]

LOL- first time mentioned on a prod list... nothing new to say at the moent.

[PeaceBringer]

here is what I don't understand--if MMCL has a role that gives him partial information or information to guess at then why did he out it and not spend time tryig to sort out the truth.

[PeaceBringer]

Here is what I see--- MMCL is really coy-

he is an outed role and the only real reason to hide your role is to keep scum guessing.

I don't think it is a good play... and I don't think scum come out with that play on day one...

Why is everyone in such a hurry to solve the Talitha and MMCL query? This is what gets me-- granted you already outed 2 others... me as a role blocker and Uraj45 as a player who can be blocked at night.

So thinking as I post I can see wisdom in resolving this but I do like where my vote is-

[PeaceBringer]

I remember Improbable role mafia; if you're referring to mith (Spanish Inquisition), he was actually lynched the same day (his ability could cause somebody to die at day with three votes).

actually brings up an intersting question--

we know there are terrorists-- what if one terrorist job is to die, take someone out.

MMCL could blindly accuse a good player, get them lynched and then take out folks either by a view or lynch--

it is a big what if, but the thought crossed my mind with Ralph's most.

I thinking waiting on those 2 wouldn't be a bad play, but that is just my thinking.

[PeaceBringer]

I have a bad feeling about what is going to happen here-

MMCL's recent posts come off as trying to prepare folks for his being wrong-

I don't like the feel of this--

[PeaceBringer]

well opening day vote on STD again

[PeaceBringer]

Norinel, what is the Village equivalent of the Town role "Doctor"?

Healer.

normally called Angel--

I guess Norinel changed the name

[PeaceBringer]

well I want to go on record as not liking whatever changes were made to the roles-
it will not be the same

I didn't like how the day in the dream went down at all.

sad really-

[PeaceBringer]

tss-

don't like that the standard werewolf role names will be something else-- just not the same ol' werewolf without refering to angel and seer.


As to the other place-- don't like the MMCL was so sure talitha was scum and led folks to the lynch-- don't like that one bit.

[PeaceBringer]

I was not sure she was innocent but did not like the feel of it and don't like the way it went down fish--

[PeaceBringer]

MMCL-- if you had information why did you feel the need to come out with it in that other place. This is what I don't understand, why expose your self and play such a gambit and decrease the chance of collecting more information?

[PeaceBringer]

well the standard werewolf roles are seer, angel and werewolf-

norinel has indicated that he changed the names of the roles.

Angel apparently is called healer

Seer is called ??

so those are straight basic roles.

[PeaceBringer]

well the standard werewolf roles are seer, angel and werewolf-

norinel has indicated that he changed the names of the roles.

Angel apparently is called healer

Seer is called ??

so those are straight basic roles.

Angel is the werewolf name for the mafia-hunting cop.
Archangel is the ww name for mafia-protecting doctor.
Seer, IIRC, is the ww-hunting cop; sorceror is the ww-protecting doc.

you play differently then I do in terms of werewolf-- I guess each place tweaks names differently. Where i play Angel is Doc and Seer is Cop

if it is a mafia werewolf mix cop is cop

so interesting.

[PeaceBringer]

well I guess I will even things up--

unvote STD vote Wacky--

[PeaceBringer]

as expected Wacky. Will be interested to see how many more jump on. It get's old fast and I know I have been very mellow.

[PeaceBringer]

gee fuldu the only way you get to understand how I play, is to actually play through me. The getting run up on day one is getting a little old. I can understand that I am probably the one person here who you don't have a good read on, so for a first day vote I understand it but I am getting real tired of folks jumping on the Peace wagon's on day one.

[PeaceBringer]

No you did not forget Talitha-- Don't sell me that bill of goods.

[PeaceBringer]

Talitha- I am just a little peived. I just have a hard time that you got on Nanook's case I think it was for bandwagoning me cause I am easy and here you are jumping on my bandwagon day 1. Like I said I have a hard to believing you forgot.

[PeaceBringer]

Willow- I understand the following a wondering-

your wondering is not right by any means.

what can I say?

[PeaceBringer]

sorry to hear that talitha- it does stink when real life brings you that much stress.
And not really much has gone on in this game except Willow's wondering, which has me wonderign a bit. Last game we had MMCL come out off the bat and point at you and it ended up where things went.

[PeaceBringer]

Ralph, I understand that I am newer around here and folks don't know how to read me. All I stated is I does get tiring and some of these folks should be able to read me by now.


Willow, I always get defensive when I am bandwagoned for no good reason. Clearly I am referencing what happened in the other game. Any vagueness I display is purposefuly, clearly. Just as your vagueness and obscure communication style is on purpose. I do not believe I need to explain further, and Yes I was referencing the Town.

[PeaceBringer]

Fish- the thing is I know for some it is oh Peacebringer has momentum lets ring him up again. Like I said it gets old fast. And your right I cannot defend against a bandwagon founded simply on a wondering. Folks will do what they will. Of course Willow will say gee there you go again, but the fact is what can I say. I got votes piling on me for no reason other then someone wondering.

[PeaceBringer]

unvote Wacky

[PeaceBringer]

from what I can see Fuldu is at 6 votes-

I counted Lulu, TSS, Talitha, Wacky, Flying Dutchman and Nanook on the vote right now--

the last vote count had myself and Ralph on the vote and neither of us cast a vote for Fuldu.

[PeaceBringer]

right now I am inclined to believe fuldu and don't want to vote that way unless folks decide that he becomes the safest lynch for the day and we get more village information from the roles-

I have no idea of another direction to go, folks are really keeping quiet in the town side.

[PeaceBringer]

actually the whole werewolf side has been extremely quiet compared to the town. Not sure what the dynamic is but there has been very little happening over here.

[PeaceBringer]

wow some actual information. Like I said, I don't see Fuldu as scummy but I also understand his point about not exposing other roles players to bandwagoning and limiting the info out.

[PeaceBringer]

Okay--- I blocked Nanook last night FYI

so whatever decision we make need to take that into consideration

Night one Uraj/KE

night 2 Nanook

[PeaceBringer]

while the roleblock of nanook suggests something

reminder KE was blocked the previous night.

MMCL bit I did not like AT all, vote MMCL.

[PeaceBringer]

vote MMCL

[PeaceBringer]

then

Unvote-

MMCL better come out with more reasonable information then he currently has--

[PeaceBringer]

when I saw that willow was cop and saw that she cast a vote off the bat on me yesterday, I didn't like it one bit cause I knew I would likely end up bandwagoned and I know I am not a wolf. If she viewed me her sanity was definitely off and I guess scum saw that and certainly moving to set me up. I don't know what I could say to convince anyone that I would not be the play so I will see what you all decide is your best course of action. All I know is I am not a wolf and am not scum.

[PeaceBringer]

TSS makes a convincing enough arguement for me to cast a vote.

Vote Wacky.

[PeaceBringer]

In a nightmare in a place that calls itself a town I blocked a certain Nanook, that has nothing to do with the village. I find the constant refering to the past game to be an attempt at trying to distract what is going on in the village. I understand those that some how lost their town lives as wanting to comment, but we are well past a point of needing to discuss the goings on in t hat other reality.

[PeaceBringer]

unvote wacky--

[PeaceBringer]

interesting point Wacky-

vote Lulu

[PeaceBringer]

good lord this game has crawled to a grinding halt.

[PeaceBringer]

I understand the suspiscion coron and talitha. Heck it would make me suspsicious of me. Hopefully this can get resolved in that other place where willows can still speak. Coron, the reason lulu/you are being voted is there was exhibited a classic scummy manuever around here and there fore given the lack of anything else substantial to go on you/lulu seemed by far the most supiscious.

[PeaceBringer]

wow, really been a week since my last post...just goes to show nothing going on at the moment. Coron I have not heard a single good reason to unvote.

[PeaceBringer]

I personally find the lack of interaction frustrating, I expected more myself from the people sign up for the game- so not sure why there is really no discussion going on. It is like folks are waiting for a deadline to happen on purpose- rather annoying.

[PeaceBringer]

hey, If I had anything to say game wise I would say it. I think my vote is sound and don't see a reason to move it.

[PeaceBringer]

it looks to me that Talitha unvoted and FD voted so still at 6-really wish he had the lynch though, cause first of all pretty clear to me you are scum and this day has gone on far to long and people are losing interest in game.

[PeaceBringer]

norinel- I posted wth you talking about-- nothing to report on the blockage front--

I would like to here from meme about the dream and nanook about being blocked.

[PeaceBringer]

WW we are waiting for Nanook primarily.

The day was so long last night looks like I didn't submit a block- so I apologize to the town for that slip up. Won't happen again.

Will from now on submit block as soon as day ends so I don't forget to do so again.

[PeaceBringer]

I am not voting Nanook-- it should be I think

Vote Nanook

...

[PeaceBringer]

sweet- gotcha Nanook! Damn lucky to nail the godfather night 2. Sweet.

any thought on where to go for the day.

[PeaceBringer]

So anyone have any thoughts on the day. I see no one has posted in quite some time.

[PeaceBringer]

Hmm-- a lot of pressure was put on FD last day. I see Talitha gravitating to same suspects from before, which gives us no new patterns. Thus

vote STD

[PeaceBringer]

wait, unvote, that puts him at 5

STD got anything to say?

[PeaceBringer]

vote Mastermind of Sin

then-

[PeaceBringer]

STD makes waht appears to be a legit claim- so given a legit claim I moved to the only other person with votes. We got nothing on anyone else. Willing to explore the suspiscion.

[PeaceBringer]

unvote

[PeaceBringer]

only reason I unvoted was because I had no conviction on that matter and seeing how we were facing a deadline I didn't want to leave my vote hanging out there. I had hope for all to unvote and then get more discussion. TSS it is how I play.

[PeaceBringer]

well looking this over not sure about Speedy's reactions and it is enough for me to cast my vote-

unvote, vote speedy

[PeaceBringer]

heck I couldn't remember if I blocked anyone and didn't see any pm to the mod.

[PeaceBringer]

MOS- I am live Roleblocker who managed to block godfather day 2- have not blocked anyone in the following 2 days

I think I maybe the only live claim at the moment-

[PeaceBringer]

Coron, your list basically boils down to "I don't think KingEnigma or PeaceBringer is scum," and it appears that your only reason for that is that they attacked Nanook in the first couple days instead of going after MMCL or Talitha. It's not a terrible argument, but neither is it a great one. Scum attack one another all the time, and the early days are often the best time to do it. But the way you've chosen to frame it ('these people might be scum' as versus 'these people seem relatively innocent'), especially when your actual argument is based on which people have exhibited innocent behavior, seems scummy to me.

vote: Coron

Hmm, I

haven't liked your play in this game, this statement a prime example. unvote, Vote Fuldu

[PeaceBringer]

no love for the fuldu vote so next suspect

unvote, vote STD

[PeaceBringer]

hmm I don't know what to make of that claim-

I also would like to know if just a one time theft?

[PeaceBringer]

I have been reading, mass claim should be helpful. We need something to talk about.

[PeaceBringer]

Hmm so you want me to pick the order?

I actually like seeing who claims when and what is volunteered myself.

I usualy find that to be helpful. If I were to pick someone it would be one of halfpint or Nanook who have been both quiet.

[PeaceBringer]

halfpint, if you would be so kind. If we are going to mass claim, might as well start with those not yet under pressure and put them under pressure. At least this is my thinking.

[PeaceBringer]

been away on vacation-

vote MOS

since the claims all seem reasonable to me.

[PeaceBringer]

As to my role, simple villager.

Mgm has to be the wolf, vote Mgm

[PeaceBringer]

Wait: before we lynch Mgm, PB: Who did you block each night?

what in the village-- I would have to dig that up.

I said everything in game. I believe fuldu was my last block attempt before I got killed over there.

I am just townie. Lynch me, shoot Mgm

lynch Mgm game should be over

there is chance STD is serial killer though. So I would consider that.
You lynch me you get townie. Lynch Mgm most likely wolf.

Not sure what all you were waiting on me for. To me mgm is the last wolf, not moving my vote. If you want to lynch me over him go for it but Mgm is the scum. Pure and simple. Then it is a simple matter if game doesn't end then Std is SK. Not to hard to figure.