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Post #58 (isolation #0) » Tue Apr 11, 2023 2:17 am
Postby Kokichi Oma »
My disappointment of not being part of fire or ice was immeasurable. It was the only reason I /in'd
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
Rather on-board for this but don't feel like taking this into genuine wagon territory quite right now.
You'd rather keep this in RVS stage? Or am I misunderstanding something here?
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
I believe others made it clear already, but 45 leaves a bit of an unpleasant taste. It's latching to Aureal's question in a sly fashion. And weakly reframing the question as an accusation
I agree that 45 is bad, but I don't think it's enough for me to vote them yet
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post #85 (isolation #4) » Tue Apr 11, 2023 4:21 am
Postby Kokichi Oma »
In post 65, Oclaxian Empire wrote:
grim: dragon wagon feels bad but i have not read anything why dragon is being wagoned. bianco what did u see from dragon?
@mod - v/la wed and thurs.
we’ll likely be posting some thoughts while stoned thurs too, but more than likely will not be around thurs.
They literally just posted their reasoning..
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
I don't have an issue with Dragon's 45 nor do I have an issue with the wagon that formed off of it
My only issue atm is HPE's 54 where he says he's on board to vote Dragon but doesn't want to turn it into a wagon?
Oh no.. You finally flipped scum didn't you
VOTE: Black
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post #93 (isolation #6) » Tue Apr 11, 2023 4:30 am
Postby Kokichi Oma »
Mala is likely scum too. But I think opposite team from black so far is my read.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post #95 (isolation #7) » Tue Apr 11, 2023 4:31 am
Postby Kokichi Oma »
Why would a dragon eater secretly be a dragon
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 65, Oclaxian Empire wrote:
grim: dragon wagon feels bad but i have not read anything why dragon is being wagoned. bianco what did u see from dragon?
@mod - v/la wed and thurs.
we’ll likely be posting some thoughts while stoned thurs too, but more than likely will not be around thurs.
They literally just posted their reasoning..
grim: and i feel me saying i didnt read anything related to it was p. clear, so why say this?
why would it feel bad if you didn't read anything?
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
The vote hopping is pretty out of character from Mala from what I've seen, they're not usually this flighty? I guess would be the word?
-A
seems a little early to make a call lke this but ok
In post 93, Kokichi Oma wrote:
Mala is likely scum too. But I think opposite team from black so far is my read.
why is that?
they are both acting weird based on experience, but i think they don't seem aligned so far
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
I thought you were bragging in one game that you never flipped scum before? Unless you have an alt i'm not aware of I guess. Either way you're scum here.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 178, Black wrote:
Can't we just stick her on Nameless-translator duty instead?
... I guess not.
Black, ol' buddybuddybuddynosubliminalmessageherebuddybuddy, how could you suggest such a thing? Is Kokichi right about you?
I'm always right. How about you vote them
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post #284 (isolation #12) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:36 am
Postby Kokichi Oma »
In post 181, Black wrote:
Rule 1: Kokichi is never right about me
Rule 2: I am unbuddyable unless you send cat pics
This is fake meta. ACTUALLY scum.
PLEASE VOTE THIS NOW
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
Talking points. Gauging how people respond to pressure. Y'know all that good stuff
I didn't think you would want to join us. You seem to holster your vote like it's going to blow someone's face off if you use it
Votes? Wagons? VCA? You want it, it's yours my friend! VOTE: Black
I think this one is town.
I think that one is town too so far
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post #286 (isolation #14) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:37 am
Postby Kokichi Oma »
To be clear I mean HPE town
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
It's actually optimal to lim every day. Since scum targetting the same person stops the nightkill that leaves a
G
/(
T
+
G
) chance of shooting the other groupscum, and a 1/(
T
2 + 2
T
) chance of both targetting the same townie if a townie is getting shot
The chance of limming scum is
S
/(P - 1)
Plugging in the numbers that means that for now a lim gives an expected result of 8/12 chance of limming town whereas the chance of scum nightkilling town (Ignoring any doctor plays) is 9/11 - 1/99 = 80/99
Spoiler: What the letters mean
P - number of players alive
T
- number of town alive
S
- number of scum alive
G
- number of enemy groupscum alive
-Nameless
Ugh, don't do mech while tired; the math for the nightkills is off by like 0.5% because I didn't properly adjust the "same target = no nk" and didn't account for the doctor. Just listing out every possible action assuming a No Lim gives the following nightkill chances:
Town Doctor
: 240/2484 (9.66%)
Vanilla Townie
: 1760/2484 (70.85%)
Fire Mafia Goon
: 242/2484 (9.74%)
Ice Mafia Goon
: 242/2484 (9.74%)
Which when combined gives the chances of:
Town
: 2000/2484 (80.52%)
Mafia
: 484/2484 (19.48%)
Compared to the elim chances (
Town Doctor
can't get elimed because they just claim):
Vanilla Townie
: 8/12
Fire Mafia Goon
: 2/12
Ice Mafia Goon
: 2/12
Which when combined gives the chances of
Town
: 8/12 (66.67%)
Mafia
: 4/12 (33.33%)
In post 175, Black wrote:
Whatever. Now it's your responsibility to translate the mech for us >:(
It's more optimal to get scum killed through elims instead of nightkills and the reason this math needed to be done at all is because the mechanic where scum targeting the same person stops the nightkill will only ever get triggered on a town nightkill (since if it triggers on a scum nightkill it means that scum targeted themselves)
-Nameless
Too much math. Don't like. Makes my brain hurt
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 282, Kokichi Oma wrote:
I thought you were bragging in one game that you never flipped scum before? Unless you have an alt i'm not aware of I guess. Either way you're scum here.
I think you might be confusing me with someone else? We only played Death Note together. I've finished 5 games on site and 3 of them were wolf games lol
Maybe I was. Either way, I think you're scum here
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post #294 (isolation #17) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:42 am
Postby Kokichi Oma »
Cause the time she was town in the game I played she was OBVIOUS town. And she's not that here. It's a gut feeling. And my gut feelings are right 50% of the time
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post #302 (isolation #19) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 8:03 am
Postby Kokichi Oma »
Vote black today. If they don't flip scum, you can vote me tomorrow. that's how strong my gut feeling is
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 302, Kokichi Oma wrote:
Vote black today. If they don't flip scum, you can vote me tomorrow. that's how strong my gut feeling is
You're willing to do this gambit on a gut read? I can't tell if you're joking or not
I would never tell a lie
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post #305 (isolation #21) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 8:06 am
Postby Kokichi Oma »
That's not a town reaction to that post btw
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
I believe others made it clear already, but 45 leaves a bit of an unpleasant taste. It's latching to Aureal's question in a sly fashion. And weakly reframing the question as an accusation
I agree that 45 is bad, but I don't think it's enough for me to vote them yet
I don't have an issue with Dragon's 45 nor do I have an issue with the wagon that formed off of it
My only issue atm is HPE's 54 where he says he's on board to vote Dragon but doesn't want to turn it into a wagon?
Oh no.. You finally flipped scum didn't you
VOTE: Black
See, if you did find 45 bad, but not enough to vote, and you did vote in response to 79, then you must have found 79 even worse right? So you should be able to point to what's wrong with it, and the answer should not be gut.
I've already asked this to you way back then btw
I don't have experience with Dragon. I can do so with Black. Which is why it's different
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 302, Kokichi Oma wrote:
Vote black today. If they don't flip scum, you can vote me tomorrow. that's how strong my gut feeling is
You have any experience with scum!Black or have you only played with town!Black?
-A
Only town. And it was a game kinda like this? Where scum had to scumhunt basically.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post #311 (isolation #24) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 8:16 am
Postby Kokichi Oma »
HPE do you think Black is acting similar to DN?
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 310, Kokichi Oma wrote:
Only town. And it was a game kinda like this? Where scum had to scumhunt basically.
What does that have to do with anything? I was town that game so obviously I wasn't scum scumhunting
slip? wouldn't it be the same as this game if you were town in both? since you'd be scumhunting
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post #376 (isolation #26) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:13 am
Postby Kokichi Oma »
In post 355, Black wrote:
The more I think about the meta wagon the more I'm not liking it from Kokichi. It seems like a convenient way to turn his RVS vote on me into something serious. It's also something I can't really defend myself against because meta arguments are pretty subjective
It would make sense for Kokichi to come into our second game together wanting me dead. I was able to see through his little town disguise in Death Note at the end, and it led to us winning the game in a situation where town was destined to lose. I feel like that could have caused him to view me as a threat here
Likelihood of scum on my wagon probably goes something like Kokichi > python > Bianco? > HPE
This is a flat out lie. You townread me and if it wasnt for StD claiming scum you wouldn't have scumread me
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post #377 (isolation #27) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:14 am
Postby Kokichi Oma »
Vote black, guaranteed scum here.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post #379 (isolation #28) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:15 am
Postby Kokichi Oma »
In post 181, Black wrote:
Rule 1: Kokichi is never right about me
Rule 2: I am unbuddyable unless you send cat pics
Says this to discredit when we've only been in 1 game together when I was scum and she was town and I correctly called her town day 1 early (it was a game like this one where scum has to scumhunt)
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 376, Kokichi Oma wrote:
This is a flat out lie. You townread me and if it wasnt for StD claiming scum you wouldn't have scumread me
No it's not? Where did I say I would've SRed you if StD didn't fake claim?
Also why do you seem so upset all the sudden?
Why would I be upset, you're the leading wagon, one scum almost gone
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 380, Kokichi Oma wrote:
Why would I be upset, you're the leading wagon, one scum almost gone
Because you know I'm right about you
Town doesn't make a gambit with their life halfway through D1 on a pure gut meta read
You changed you're reaction after I said it wasn't a town reaction. Easy scum move.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post #384 (isolation #31) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:19 am
Postby Kokichi Oma »
Sorry you rolled scum when I was town actually
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post #480 (isolation #32) » Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:01 am
Postby Kokichi Oma »
Do not get distracted, Black is scum. don't let her get away with it
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post #483 (isolation #33) » Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:12 am
Postby Kokichi Oma »
I think in this situation if I was scum I would want to get rid of town first because you can rid of doc
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 483, Kokichi Oma wrote:
I think in this situation if I was scum I would want to get rid of town first because you can rid of doc
How? You can't lim the doc and trying to nightkill the doc runs the risk of no-killing that night.
-A
If you out doc, you can kill doc? or is there some mechanic i'm not aware of
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post #491 (isolation #35) » Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:23 am
Postby Kokichi Oma »
That's so funny. I wish I was scum this game, I'm sad. I would have had a ball
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post #493 (isolation #36) » Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:30 am
Postby Kokichi Oma »
It makes the game more exciting. If I was scum, I wouldn't be pushing you Black. You should know this since you're scum.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post #494 (isolation #37) » Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:31 am
Postby Kokichi Oma »
Black, don't you think Mala is scum here?
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
Associatives are usless if we don't know what drew is yet.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 493, Kokichi Oma wrote:
It makes the game more exciting. If I was scum, I wouldn't be pushing you Black. You should know this since you're scum.
this smells kinda fake idk
Then vote me, what are you waiting for?
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
I backtracked and basically proposed mech plan is "to win we need to kill mafia".
High level gameplay here
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 597, biancospino wrote:
Idk, If I was scum and tr'd the Bulge, personally I'd take the risk of them being otherscum instead of doing this pantomime. Since the pantomime doesn't look that good in every case, and I'd be decently confident that the bad scenario I'm guarding against wouldn't happen anyway
Realistically speaking it's Drew/Bulge, don't get it twisted. We're just hedging our bets on who's more likely to be scum if we're wrong on the solve
Also preliminary readlist since we've started to have enough opinions for it to matter
usesPython
HighPrincessErinys
Kokichi Oma
furtiveglance
biancospino
Oclaxian Empire
osuka
Enchant
Malakittens
Aureal
Black
The Bulge
Doctor Drew
-A
I love it when I do nothing and get townread. Maybe I should do nothing more often
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post #659 (isolation #42) » Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:20 am
Postby Kokichi Oma »
Since you all seem scared to vote Black today, if I die make sure Black is the vote the next day
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post #864 (isolation #43) » Sat Apr 15, 2023 4:37 am
Postby Kokichi Oma »
In post 724, Black wrote:
Why do you even TR Kokichi so much python?
Because i caught you
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 724, Black wrote:
Why do you even TR Kokichi so much python?
They're not as blatantly manipulative as they were in DN mafia
-A
Wait who are you
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post #866 (isolation #45) » Sat Apr 15, 2023 4:39 am
Postby Kokichi Oma »
In post 740, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
This one doesn't think it wants a Black elim anymore, and it's not very sure about voting like, Python or Drew either at the moment. But its pretty sure that it'd like to elim furtive who really is not playing like he normally would in its opinion.
This one thinks that one is choosing poorly. But we will see tomorrow.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post #867 (isolation #46) » Sat Apr 15, 2023 4:41 am
Postby Kokichi Oma »
In post 853, usesPython wrote:
Kokichi you sr Black, who do you think the other scum are?
-A
Mala is on the opposite team. IDK about anyone else
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
You're sooooooo lucky Black is scummier than you otherwise i'd be pushing for your elim
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 724, Black wrote:
Why do you even TR Kokichi so much python?
Because i caught you
You couldn't even elaborate on your gut read and now your wagon has fallen apart because of it. Better luck next time!
Hey. Other mafia. Make sure to kill Black tonight for a free scum kill. TRUST ME
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post #872 (isolation #49) » Sat Apr 15, 2023 4:43 am
Postby Kokichi Oma »
In post 870, Black wrote:
Getting a lim through requires more than just repeating "X is scum!" and then ignoring everyone's attempts to get you to expand on that
You'll get better in time
You misunderstand my intentions. In this game I don't need to push you to be voted out, I just need other scum to kill you OR have you voted out.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post #874 (isolation #50) » Sat Apr 15, 2023 4:45 am
Postby Kokichi Oma »
I have nothing against you. You're just scum this game
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post #876 (isolation #51) » Sat Apr 15, 2023 4:49 am
Postby Kokichi Oma »
What exactly would I have against you? And the 50% thing was just in jest
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post #877 (isolation #52) » Sat Apr 15, 2023 4:50 am
Postby Kokichi Oma »
I would feel bad if you're town, but I don't think you're town.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
This is my thought about you too. You could be town. But you could also be mafia. What a dilemma
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 877, Kokichi Oma wrote:
I would feel bad if you're town, but I don't think you're town.
See you in the postgame then. I'm done talking to you and I will be actively avoiding games with you in it from now on
yikes, trying to make things personal when there is no reason to be
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
I feel like there has been much worse posted, by me even.
Oh jeez
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post #1044 (isolation #56) » Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:13 am
Postby Kokichi Oma »
In post 1019, Aureal wrote:
*sighs at changing pages actually eating mostly written phone-post*
I don't think I'm metaing you, Python? I mean, you were town in that game we played together. I did read a bit of your scum game too. I don't think I can really tell the difference. Any comment I might have made on you being different is pretty much just tongue in cheek commentary like I tend to make when playing with people I've had notable interactions with before.
I really kinda hate that Mala vote. I've been giving her a pass since she's sick but if she's not too sick to E-1 someone with no reason with like half the deadline left while she knows Enchant can hammer I guess she can get a VOTE: Malakittens for now.
I'm fine with this vote
VOTE: Malakittens
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post #1045 (isolation #57) » Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:15 am
Postby Kokichi Oma »
E-3 for mala. I can't see why python and bulge are/were the biggest votes so far today
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post #1053 (isolation #58) » Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:33 am
Postby Kokichi Oma »
In post 1047, Enchant wrote:
All mech talk i saw is:
MAFIA WANTS TO ELIMINATE OTHER TEAM MAFIA AND DON'T WANT TO ELIMINATE SELF.
TOWN WANT TO KILL MAFIA
And dumb numbers which "confirm" it.
so true
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post #1058 (isolation #59) » Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:35 am
Postby Kokichi Oma »
wish you were faster enchant
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
