Mini 2308 | Blood over Utopia | Utopia fell.

[SirCakez]

why hello there
VOTE: devil bc satan is sus

[SirCakez]

HURT: trading outpost
lots of good options but I like this for giving us more to work with later on

[SirCakez]

assassination + autopsy is basically a vig

[SirCakez]

not feeling anything AI from anyone yet so I'll sit on my rvs for now

[SirCakez]

not feeling anything AI from anyone yet so I'll sit on my rvs for now

if i can be so bold as to say my very valid opinions,
i think this is sussy.

Why didn't u vote me then

[SirCakez]

I don't think neighborhood watch does that much for us, I'd rather do developments or investigatives

[SirCakez]

And it would be dumb to use the vig projects so early imo

[SirCakez]

this cruel cruel game sucks because i can't tell who is partners with cakez yet..

Why Cakez?

Hes doing this thing where hes complaining but doing nothing to fix the problem. It makes it look like hes here, but hes really just doing nothing. Usually people would just not say anything about having no reads unless theyre prompted.

what am i even complaining about? i'm just commenting on the projects but i don't think there's any issues with what's gone down so far. i feel this is a micharacterization.

not feeling anything AI from anyone yet so I'll sit on my rvs for now

and not pushing to find out info anywhere

it was not even 24 hours into the game I'd rather follow the progression of people then force something artificial

[SirCakez]

Can I ask people voting for Trading Post to explain what combinations they want to use which would require the extra budget? I feel like there's just been an assumption we're going to need them.

we could do
census/a development
assassination/autopsy
neighborhood watch/census

[SirCakez]

Can I ask people voting for Trading Post to explain what combinations they want to use which would require the extra budget? I feel like there's just been an assumption we're going to need them.

since trading outpost is permanent itll help when we unlock more roles i think

I think it makes more sense to unlock more abilities first and then decide how useful we think the extra $10k will be.

- Alianna

but i think this is reasonable as well

HURT: bureau of investigations

[SirCakez]

VOTE: high flying dwarf
who is this player?

[SirCakez]

wow was not expecting to be such a big topic of discussion this game
Deal with the Devil - why get into an argument with marci over her push on me? what read did you get on marci from that interaction?

[SirCakez]

i like meowmeow's entrance, first posts I've read this game that really made me feel town

[SirCakez]

VOTE: high flying dwarf
who is this player?

Has no one else pinged you yet?

Not really, I feel the mech talk has been mostly AI and that's been most of the game so far, there's been a little scum hunting but nothing has pinged me

[SirCakez]

Mostly NAI*

[SirCakez]

i like meowmeow's entrance, first posts I've read this game that really made me feel town

could you elaborate on what made you townread me?

I can follow the town thought processes that lead you to where you got, I don't think it's faked

[SirCakez]

I think Sacrifice is useful but would put it in same bucket as assassination - not useful today

[SirCakez]

I was prodded I'm alive

[SirCakez]

UNVOTE: I see there was a replacement

[SirCakez]

I was voting the slot to poke them, new player showed up and is doing things so the vote motivation isn't there anymore

[SirCakez]

^
Also I'll actually do stuff here after work, just wanted to pop in for prod response

[SirCakez]

Hi cakes, big fan. What do you think about the devil hydra so far? Outside of even the direct stuff dealing with you/Marci.

For visibility cakes.

I like their posts - I haven't played too much with Drew but his posts are giving me good vibes, don't have much of a grasp on the other side of the hydra yet. It did weird me out a little that they went to bat for me w Marci but their explanation made sense when I asked.

[SirCakez]

Not voting (4): Random Nurse, HighFlyingDwarf, marcistar,

y'all need to do something

Pinged by this post - feels hypocritical, irrelevant considering how early we are and somewhat Lamist-y even

[SirCakez]

VOTE: penguinpower
as much as the instant pagetop upon return is impressive, i don't think his posts are as impressive from an alignment perspective unfortunately. 378 feels kind of performative; marci has done more than most people this game and i don't think highflyingdwarf is going to start doing things because this post exists. the fact this post is kind of like, all he does after coming back with so many new posts, is concerning to me

also this means i'm not not voting

Wow how strange my townread had the exact same thought as me

[SirCakez]

I'm pretty sure my stance on votes and d1 play is both consistent and apparent so I won't be answering.

Bad memory, bad reading comprehension, and now doesn't play well with others? No wonder your mod badge was stripped from you.

You seem to have a different view of your play then others see.

-Drew

Also I know this was a joke but this reads way too aggressive to be scum imo

[SirCakez]

marci do i kind of look like the cat in your pfp

yes i love cats

i still dont like cakez LOL

so vote him?

i feel like we've been over this before...

VOTE: sircakez

What changed in between here?

[SirCakez]

VOTE: penguin
Yeah I feel the worst about him so far

I'm feeling out a couple other reads that I want to develop more before exploring

I feel pretty good about Devil, meow, RCE, Roden and Merlyn right now, at least for day one. Everyone else is null or I'm thinking through or kinda scummy.

[SirCakez]

you continued to bore me duh

Marci be like Cakez dance for me or I'll lim your ass

[SirCakez]

Cakez have you played with Penguin before?

Yeah many times, no I don't care about his meta here atm

[SirCakez]

Cakez have you played with Penguin before?

Yeah many times, no I don't care about his meta here atm

lol - "yes, but I don't care that he does this often, I need to fake a reason for voting him"

Your meta doesn't excuse a crappy post, the post that pinged me was scummy regardless and I wasn't the only one to think so

[SirCakez]

And I didn't even know there was a wagon on you already

[SirCakez]

Aureal who do you think is scum? It's not really clear from your iso

[SirCakez]

ugh

[SirCakez]

I don't really do pockets and definitely not with players I'm unfamiliar with

[SirCakez]

why is this random mini theme so hard for me to find scum
I'm just gonna town hunt instead

[SirCakez]

UNVOTE:
I don't feel good about this vote anymore

[SirCakez]

UNVOTE:
I don't feel good about this vote anymore

I did some ISOing to verify what you were saying and unfortunately for me and my lack of scumreads this game your claims about talking about votes every game early day one check out - it's more specific meta then just the lackadaisical Penguin meta I was thinking of

So now I literally have like nothing I feel good about pushing
Someone make a scummy post

[SirCakez]

Aureal who do you think is scum? It's not really clear from your iso

@Aureal did you see this?

[SirCakez]

UNVOTE:
I don't feel good about this vote anymore

I did some ISOing to verify what you were saying and unfortunately for me and my lack of scumreads this game your claims about talking about votes every game early day one check out - it's more specific meta then just the lackadaisical Penguin meta I was thinking of

So now I literally have like nothing I feel good about pushing
Someone make a scummy post

Okay, thanks, I guess.

What is the meaning of this emoji lol

[SirCakez]

I'm liking Rodens posts this game, feels distinctly different from last game I played w him when he was scum

[SirCakez]

can we just vote cakez out pls

Literally what are you even pushing me on at this point? This confidence seems like it's built on nothing like one post from way early in the game

[SirCakez]

this cruel cruel game sucks because i can't tell who is partners with cakez yet..

this cruel cruel game sucks because i can't tell who is partners with cakez yet..

Why Cakez?

Hes doing this thing where hes complaining but doing nothing to fix the problem. It makes it look like hes here, but hes really just doing nothing. Usually people would just not say anything about having no reads unless theyre prompted.

not feeling anything AI from anyone yet so I'll sit on my rvs for now

and not pushing to find out info anywhere

Like okay this stuff is valid I understand where's she's coming from. But that was like five days ago.

this cruel cruel game sucks because i can't tell who is partners with cakez yet..

Why Cakez?

Hes doing this thing where hes complaining but doing nothing to fix the problem. It makes it look like hes here, but hes really just doing nothing. Usually people would just not say anything about having no reads unless theyre prompted.

It's a little early for that to be an issue, I think.

I think I only have like two games with him and they were a while back, but in the one I remember most I was scum vs town!Cakez and your description doesn't sound far off from his play there. He caught me pretty early on so I know he can hunt when it comes down to it.

isnt cakez a "good player" though?? drew seems to think so at least!

if drews confident hes town then im confident cakez will come in and give us some hella good reads to make me change my mind!!!

cakez will lead us to victory! everyone needs to believe in our angelic god cakez!!!!

There was this post which was just whatever.

i still dont like cakez LOL

VOTE: sircakez

can we just vote cakez out pls

bcuz hes scum

And then the remainder is this riveting scum hunting here. Your read literally has not progressed at all but you act like you've solved the game already. Pretty lame push.

[SirCakez]

bcuz hes scum

I'll rephrase then, why do you still think he's scum?
If it's the same stuff as before, then I'll just agree to disagree because I don't find any of that scummy.

- Alianna

no the reason is because he hasnt done anything that i find towny enough to doubt my original read. hes 100% scum

ILL MAKE SURE TO LIST YOU AS A SCUM ENABLER IN MY VERY EXCLUSIVE READSLISTS THAT I NEVER MAKE

Oh I missed this too which is just basically Alianna pointing out what I just said

[SirCakez]

Basically my impression of Penguins meta is that he powers up later in the game and doesn't do too much early on which happens regardless of his alignment. But I was arguing that his post that pinged me was scummy regardless of that meta. But then he pointed out that he was very specifically looking into the votes on day one for his play and I went back and did ISOs and saw that ya it was NAI

[SirCakez]

Which is really frustrating bc I felt good about that read so now I'm in my current spot in the bushes looking for new scumspects

[SirCakez]

Why are people just restating exactly what I'm saying and acting like it means something else

[SirCakez]

this cruel cruel game sucks because i can't tell who is partners with cakez yet..

this cruel cruel game sucks because i can't tell who is partners with cakez yet..

Why Cakez?

Hes doing this thing where hes complaining but doing nothing to fix the problem. It makes it look like hes here, but hes really just doing nothing. Usually people would just not say anything about having no reads unless theyre prompted.

not feeling anything AI from anyone yet so I'll sit on my rvs for now

and not pushing to find out info anywhere

Like okay this stuff is valid I understand where's she's coming from. But that was like five days ago.

this cruel cruel game sucks because i can't tell who is partners with cakez yet..

Why Cakez?

Hes doing this thing where hes complaining but doing nothing to fix the problem. It makes it look like hes here, but hes really just doing nothing. Usually people would just not say anything about having no reads unless theyre prompted.

It's a little early for that to be an issue, I think.

I think I only have like two games with him and they were a while back, but in the one I remember most I was scum vs town!Cakez and your description doesn't sound far off from his play there. He caught me pretty early on so I know he can hunt when it comes down to it.

isnt cakez a "good player" though?? drew seems to think so at least!

if drews confident hes town then im confident cakez will come in and give us some hella good reads to make me change my mind!!!

cakez will lead us to victory! everyone needs to believe in our angelic god cakez!!!!

There was this post which was just whatever.

i still dont like cakez LOL

VOTE: sircakez

can we just vote cakez out pls

bcuz hes scum

And then the remainder is this riveting scum hunting here. Your read literally has not progressed at all but you act like you've solved the game already. Pretty lame push.

well yeah i have no reason to change away from you when youve done nothing to make me doubt my read

like who even ARE your "scumspects", all i see is you complaining you dont have any!!

Like...yes? That's what I have said in thread? There's not even a point.

[SirCakez]

It reads like a discredit, but Marci's case is nothing and you're pretty much saying it's nothing. So it's like...it feels like you're looking for an argument with her. I think it would make more sense to look at the other people on your wagon who either followed Marci or came up with their own reason for voting you.

And this, yes I am discrediting her push and saying it's nothing. I don't really care if I get in an argument tho, ig it could help me generate more reads.

[SirCakez]

Basically my impression of Penguins meta is that he powers up later in the game and doesn't do too much early on which happens regardless of his alignment. But I was arguing that his post that pinged me was scummy regardless of that meta. But then he pointed out that he was very specifically looking into the votes on day one for his play and I went back and did ISOs and saw that ya it was NAI

ok so 585 is what made you go do some meta?

I think that's possible, but you also checked into the game two separate times (586 and 599 just going off of the timestamps) before unvoting. I know you're someone who catches up chronologically like me. Why did you unvote later?

I was still thinking about it

also what was the "ugh" in 586 in response to?

I was just annoyed that Penguin was probably right lol

[SirCakez]

VOTE: penguin
Yeah I feel the worst about him so far

I'm feeling out a couple other reads that I want to develop more before exploring

I feel pretty good about Devil, meow, RCE, Roden and Merlyn right now, at least for day one. Everyone else is null or I'm thinking through or kinda scummy.

This is the only time Cakez mentions Merlyn, and it's soon after she votes him.

@Cakez why exactly do you feel good about Merlyn when her vote is arguably worse than Marci's?

I don't think there was anything wrong with that vote on me really, other then like obv I'm town and they're wrong bur that doesn't make them scum. Basically same thing with Marcis push I think its bad but it doesn't necessarily= scum

[SirCakez]

Speaking of scumspects though
VOTE: flavor leaf
Last couple pages FL has been super underwhelming. Feels like hes just kinda here reacting to stuff, there's not any initiative

[SirCakez]

It reads like a discredit, but Marci's case is nothing and you're pretty much saying it's nothing. So it's like...it feels like you're looking for an argument with her. I think it would make more sense to look at the other people on your wagon who either followed Marci or came up with their own reason for voting you.

And this, yes I am discrediting her push and saying it's nothing. I don't really care if I get in an argument tho, ig it could help me generate more reads.

Is she town bad pushing you or scum bad pushing you though

I'm not sure yet, it's hard for me to tell cuz I'm just kinda annoyed with her and that's clouding my read

I don't think there was anything wrong with that vote on me really, other then like obv I'm town and they're wrong bur that doesn't make them scum. Basically same thing with Marcis push I think its bad but it doesn't necessarily= scum

I don't think that there's an open and shut case on you or anything, but what posts are you thinking about that I missed that make you obv town?

I meant that from my PoV like I know the vote is wrong but I understand why it was made and it was reasonable

[SirCakez]

I don't think this is not how town FL would be reacting here
You're literally going right into crazy accusations and trying to start a huge war/argument with me with a very bs claim that my vote on you was forced when if you read like any of the last five pages you'd know that I've been looking for someone to vote/suspect for a while now. Cmon that's just so wack.

[SirCakez]

Like it was basically pure OMGUS

[SirCakez]

I feel like it's a complete waste of time talking to you since you just called my cancelled Penguin push scummy then admitted you haven't even read a Penguin post

[SirCakez]

I don't think this is not how town FL would be reacting here
You're literally going right into crazy accusations and trying to start a huge war/argument with me with a very bs claim that my vote on you was forced when if you read like any of the last five pages you'd know that I've been looking for someone to vote/suspect for a while now. Cmon that's just so wack.

Like this entire reason is just wack.

You said you’ve been looking for someone to vote/suspect meaning you admitting you forced it.

Again this game and the people just saying what I did over again.

[SirCakez]

I feel like it's a complete waste of time talking to you since you just called my cancelled Penguin push scummy then admitted you haven't even read a Penguin post

Had nothing to do with Penguin and all to do with gamestate.

Don’t misrep it.

You wanted to awaken the leaf, don’t be upset when ya get the beef

If you were actually reading this game my progression is very obviously based on Penguins posts but you're not interested in that

[SirCakez]

DwtD 180 definitely feels weird considering how in they went in defending me against Marci earlier

[SirCakez]

This can't be as simple as Aureal protecting their buddy right?

-Drew

And this is just level 0 scum hunting

[SirCakez]

Congrats Flavor, the Devil considers you a friend......and most likely town.

Not sure how Alianna feels yet, but this guy wants to sheep you on Cakez, their 786 in particular is pretty bad.

-Drew

Explain your issues with 786

[SirCakez]

Either that or I’m derp tunneling Cakez town, but he came after me first

FL if you're actually considering this why not make an actual attempt to engage me and stop vomiting the typical I solved the game spam that is totally useless? It just looks like preemptive excuses for the town flip here

[SirCakez]

My case has nothing to do with it

What case LOL

[SirCakez]

I feel like it's a complete waste of time talking to you since you just called my cancelled Penguin push scummy then admitted you haven't even read a Penguin post

Had nothing to do with Penguin and all to do with gamestate.

Don’t misrep it.

You wanted to awaken the leaf, don’t be upset when ya get the beef

If you were actually reading this game my progression is very obviously based on Penguins posts but you're not interested in that

Again, what does Penguin gotta do with anything other than the fact they were the previous counter wagon?

I don’t really care about the reasonings behind it

I already talked about this with CSF and like I said you're clearly not interested in actually solving me rn

[SirCakez]

I didn't really want to do this but we can definitely tear up this game with a mega argument, let's fucking go

[SirCakez]

Either that or I’m derp tunneling Cakez town, but he came after me first

FL if you're actually considering this why not make an actual attempt to engage me and stop vomiting the typical I solved the game spam that is totally useless? It just looks like preemptive excuses for the town flip here

I feel like this was me stating that you could possibly be town here

Ok so can you actually read the interactions between Penguin and I at least

[SirCakez]

I didn't really want to do this but we can definitely tear up this game with a mega argument, let's fucking go

Also, you wish we could

[SirCakez]

DwtD 180 definitely feels weird considering how in they went in defending me against Marci earlier

This can't be as simple as Aureal protecting their buddy right?

-Drew

And this is just level 0 scum hunting

Can you elaborate how I 'went in' defending you?

And even if I did? Do you understand how reads can change?

I mean this will be a post in the 800's, and you are using post 180 to defend yourself.

Seems like level 0 scum play my man

-Drew

I mean 180 as in your turnaround on my slot from defending to voting me, not post 180 wtf

[SirCakez]

this cruel cruel game sucks because i can't tell who is partners with cakez yet..

Why Cakez?

I am getting a very phony vibe from marci, personally speaking.

-Drew

this cruel cruel game sucks because i can't tell who is partners with cakez yet..

Why Cakez?

Hes doing this thing where hes complaining but doing nothing to fix the problem. It makes it look like hes here, but hes really just doing nothing. Usually people would just not say anything about having no reads unless theyre prompted.

Have you played with him before?

this cruel cruel game sucks because i can't tell who is partners with cakez yet..

Why Cakez?

Hes doing this thing where hes complaining but doing nothing to fix the problem. It makes it look like hes here, but hes really just doing nothing. Usually people would just not say anything about having no reads unless theyre prompted.

Have you played with him before?

-Drew

its been a few months

but i dont see how that relates to anything

His play style doesn't come to mind when you are making a read on him?

-Drew

Also, explain how he is complaining but not tying to fix the problem? What do you mean by that?

Again, you feel very fake and disingenuous.

-Drew

bro even if you asked me rodens style i wouldnt be able to tell you when i say i have a failing memory, i have a failing memory

i think that what he did is scummy though and i stand by that. if you want i can put it in simpler terms for you though
"go king give us nothing!"

What does Roden have to do with your Cakez read?

not feeling anything AI from anyone yet so I'll sit on my rvs for now

and not pushing to find out info anywhere

Do you think scum would make a post like Cakez here?

This is very obviously a defense/chainsaw on Marci type deal

[SirCakez]

And obviously I understand reads can change but I don't see the town thoughts behind what you did. Like you said one post was bad I asked you what was bad and you conveniently didn't respond to that

[SirCakez]

Hello I'm around I wanted to get away from this game for a day cuz I felt like I was dominating the convo way too much

[SirCakez]

Cakez became obv town tbh

Wtf?

[SirCakez]

I don't really think Snivy is scummy :/

[SirCakez]

I could go back to Penguin but it wouldn't be based in any strong feelings of mine. I do think it's weird how fast he's flaked out here.

[SirCakez]

I still think FL is scummy I don't really buy his excuse that he was faking his entire interaction with me as bait for scum - that was not even close to the impression I got from those posts

[SirCakez]

Wtf is going on here

[SirCakez]

How are we even going to make someone Sacrifice today

[SirCakez]

VOTE: infinity
I cant figure out what the hell FL is doing here I'll sort it out tomorrow we gotta consolidate on something

[SirCakez]

ok so about fl and cakez;

I don't think this is not how town FL would be reacting here
You're literally going right into crazy accusations and trying to start a huge war/argument with me with a very bs claim that my vote on you was forced when if you read like any of the last five pages you'd know that I've been looking for someone to vote/suspect for a while now. Cmon that's just so wack.

i wasn't expecting to agree with fl here, especially since he doesn't agree with himself anymore apparently, but like... i think there's a valid concern here that isn't addressed. it makes sense that your threshold for 'scummy thing' is lower, but like, what's your thought process here that makes you think low initiative -> scum for fl specifically? i admit to not having played with him for a while, but from what i've seen so far this game, i'm highly doubtful he's changed at all for years; he delights in being scum and messing around with people and being exceptionally active, right?

and like... honestly my problem with fl's posts there wasn't that he had too little initiative, but too much. the defense on snivy going to the point of accusing people of hounding him so quickly was pretty bizarre to me, and as i said, he went harder than he needed to. so i'd like to at least hear more about the thought process behind this push

i don't really get devil's push on 786 either which seems fine

I know he pulls all that stuff as scum but my fear is/was that he was looking for an opening to exploit before doing so. And I kinda get the feeling I was right on that because he immediately attacked me as soon as I poked him and then said he was "faking" it and now he's on this marci thing, it just doesn't feel organic at all. It could just be FL being FL but I'm not getting any good vibes.

[SirCakez]

I actually don't think Infinitys entrance is looking that town
They feel agenda-y

[SirCakez]

i think we're actually choosing sacrifice, it should be clear at some point and then everyone can just vote for it so they can get a say. our sac vote is mostly symbolic atm.

Ex this post

[SirCakez]

I still think FL is scummy I don't really buy his excuse that he was faking his entire interaction with me as bait for scum - that was not even close to the impression I got from those posts

Well that’s where the misunderstanding is.

I wasn’t faking it at all, it was just a secondary reasoning.

[SirCakez]

Not loving Infinity’s entrance.

Seems agenda - y

Yo wtf

[SirCakez]

how strongly would you say you townread engagement normally?

also what's your read on flavor leaf / cakes rn?

I READ BASED OFF OF COLD HARD VIBES
engagement? does not matter IT DEPENDS ALL ON THE VIBES OF WHAT YOU SAY YKNOW YKNOW SOMETIMES THOSE VIBES JUST AINT GOOD! i dont even remember what i was thinking at the time of the post youre quoting! but i think it was just that nothing seemed ulterior motives or some shit like that.

i think honestly out of flavor leaf and cakez i would rather go flavor leaf because i think theyre bsing their posts, and the switch from cakez onto me just felt like too fast of a switch. but also i like my cakez wagon because it pisses so many people off. i dont know if i even fully trust that flavor leaf is scum or if im blinded there and theyre just an idiot! but i think theyll be in for a fun surprise later on!
cakez has been meh, it hasnt really improved too much in my opinion.

any other questions?

I think I TR this post and Marcis general tunnel on me (while bad) reads like a townie move to me - seems like she is actually convinced and has conviction, I feel like a scum Marci would have bailed by now or at least fabricated some more arguments besides what she's been sitting on all game

[SirCakez]

i feel like you just dont like me flavor leaf... maybe you could always try asking me about other reads but youre obsessed with my cakez read for whatever reason when i already claimed it was weak and based on vibes.

This is some BS though
Who sits on an early day one scumread as their main push for the entire day based on a weak vibes read?

[SirCakez]

I'd be okay with FL sacrificing himself

[SirCakez]

I feel okay keeping my snivy vote. It's starting to feel like after the danger passed they chose to fade into the background- they haven't used the extra time and pressure off to do anything.

This doesn't feel accurate at all - I feel like Snivy has been a consistent thread presence all game

[SirCakez]

Okay so someone hammer Infinity there's no claim I feel like this is a done deal

[SirCakez]

BoI and Intelligentia are two good projects

[SirCakez]

Mm actually Intelligentia is lowkey mid projects could be better but I'm not the one to solve that I just know I like Bureau of Investigations

[SirCakez]

Wow there are four? Fuck

[SirCakez]

Well Intelligentia was a good pick then

[SirCakez]

Fuck with 4 I kinda feel like we need to choose violence this game, it is called Blood over Utopia
Torture, Assassination, Sacrifice we need to be using these tools to hit back

[SirCakez]

HURT: torture

[SirCakez]

I don't think we need more development let's use the options we have for more immediate results

[SirCakez]

Recount will be pretty useful later in the game

[SirCakez]

Couldn't we use Marriage to set up a double elim?

[SirCakez]

Recount will be pretty useful later in the game

Will it? If it told us how many were on wagon, maybe. Unless it's an unusually small wagon though, I would just tend to assume the answer is pretty much always going to be "yes there was insurgents on the elimination."

I suppose if we're organized enough we could have like, only two people vote for the elimination and use it to confirm them or be certain that at least one is scum.

That's my point later in the game wagons will be a lot smaller, there's a chance multiple people could get confirmed as town at once

[SirCakez]

Torture + Trading Outpost is clearly the way to go today imo

[SirCakez]

ahhh I almost beat the prod too

[SirCakez]

Haven't read meant to today but it didn't happen oops
I want FL for the torture for sure

[SirCakez]

I don't know man this game has been hard for me the entire time I don't feel confident about any SRs

[SirCakez]

Has Marci done stuff since her tunnel on me

[SirCakez]

Hi I'm around reading and thinkinf

[SirCakez]

I kinda think the way Marci is playing here reads like idgaf town :/

[SirCakez]

VOTE: aureal
I think I feel least good about this being town among the wagons I've seen people propose

[SirCakez]

I want to stick with Torture and T Post please

[SirCakez]

Rlly hoping Torture confirms FL so I can just sheep him lol

[SirCakez]

Wait what's the plan for recount tomorrow? How does it get used as a parity check if it only tells us binary y/n if there was a scum on the wagon but not how many?

It's not exactly a parity check.
Basically, no one votes except 2 people on the chosen execution wagon and we let it pass by plurality. If we get a no, they're both confirmed town, and if we get a yes, we know at least one of them is scum.

- Alianna

I'm down for this plan it's the best way to use Recount I think

[SirCakez]

sigh

Okay I'm good to vote Marci after this, are we set for whatever the projects are? Incase of self hammer

[SirCakez]

I dunno you seem very resigned to dying when I felt like you cared a lot more earlier in this game

[SirCakez]

fuck off I am not getting limmed today

[SirCakez]

VOTE: aureal
I need to do some reassessing this game but I still think this is a good shot for scum - was one of the worse votes on the Marci wagon too

[SirCakez]

fuck off I am not getting limmed today

bc you've been so town that it's crazy to even think of you? You didn't even show up for the torture council last night

FML LOL I FORGOT

[SirCakez]

My memory has been absolute garbage lately
That was a total L on my part I can't make an excuse for that

[SirCakez]

I don't know what project is best today

[SirCakez]

Sacrifice or Assassination today actually would make sense I think unless we have a good plan for recount
We could also do the one for more investigative projects

[SirCakez]

HURT: sacrifice

[SirCakez]

reading

[SirCakez]

Honestly I have had no fucking clue about this game all game so I'd be okay to just sheep FL here, helps that we agree on Aureal scum

[SirCakez]

I have no read on Enchant so if ppl are feeling that's scum I can go there

[SirCakez]

There’s a tinfoil world where it’s CSF, Devil, and Cakez, and I’m low key terrified of it right now.

Do you think cakes actually forgot about torture vote? I can see them being scum

Bruh I have a long history of forgetting about important game mechanics and parts of my role to the point where I've been mislimmed for scumslipping as town because I forgot part of my role. I'm just an incompetent mafia player tbh

[SirCakez]

I don't have a "case" for Aureal and I never implied I would. No one has pinged me strongly scum all game really.

[SirCakez]

I think my would not kill/solidly town reads are FL (obviously), Cat Scratch Fever and meowmeow
Townish but less so would be Merlyn and Hu Tao
And then everyone else is just leftovers in the IDK pool
I don't think Deal, Enchant or Snivy have been particularly scummy but I certainly find them the least townie of the options here
and then obviously Aureal at the bottom

[SirCakez]

GG scum played a great game I was baffled from start to finish

[SirCakez]

The flavor and setup were awesome! Just need some balancing work but it could be used again for sure