??? You have to be kidding meIn post 4989, Naerys wrote: Well, Vivax has been trying to solve, or atleast it looks like that.
Looking back at Hu Tao, her solving feels kinda forced tbh.
Show me the forced solving then in quotes
??? You have to be kidding meIn post 4989, Naerys wrote: Well, Vivax has been trying to solve, or atleast it looks like that.
Looking back at Hu Tao, her solving feels kinda forced tbh.
Okay but when you make a post like that, it makes it seem like you're ruling out someone.In post 4991, Luca Blight wrote:In post 4988, Hu Tao wrote:You literally just said you're ruling out dpIn post 4934, Luca Blight wrote:In post 4933, Hu Tao wrote:I said I was willing to consider but you'd need to sell me why vivax/naerys makes senseIn post 4931, Luca Blight wrote: And this is where town loses in melo - where everyone becomes too sure of their reads and unwilling to consider they might be wrong, leading to an elimination that everyone is happy with, which more of than not is going to be town (that's me in this situation).
Who is really willing to consider that i might be town?If the answer is no-one, then I might as well self-vote now and save us all some time.
I don't see any reason it doesn't make sense?
I'm certainly not putting all my eggs in the vivax/naerys basket. It wouldn't surprise me right now if Darth/Naerys was the scum team.
No? I began the day with the mindset that if Darth is scum he's probably already won, and thinking he was more likely town as well. I've since changed my mind for reasons explained.
In post 5024, Hu Tao wrote:Show me what your similarities are from last game. Take a look from my perspective, last game you pushed hard on someone day 1 to get them eliminated. That was the main reason I tr you that game. I can quote from that game if needed. This game I don't see that same aggressiveness day 1. Am I supposed to ignore that?In post 4987, Luca Blight wrote:In post 4984, Naerys wrote:How do you feel about Vivax. Do you think he could be scum with Darth or Hu?In post 4982, Luca Blight wrote:In post 4979, Naerys wrote:Yea scum is unlikely to bus at this stageIn post 4977, Luca Blight wrote: How about me, though? Do you really think I'd go 1v1 with Darth if me and vivax are scum together? That's literally the worst thing I could do.
If me and vivax are scum together, I buddy Darth (who I had been townreading anyway) and push Hu Tao, who Darth says he scumreads. That would be the only path to victory. Going 1v1 with Darth means I most likely die as everyone has already expressed a willingness to vote me, and everyone townreads Darth. Darth is then the NK and that leaves you, Hu Tao and vivax as the last three - both you and Hu Tao think vivax is scum, so it's an instant loss.
I've felt better about vivax recently, but I will look into the possibility of him being scum with Darth as well.
I'm having a hard time seeing Darth as town at the moment, but I'll try and consider all possibilities. Both me and Darth have a tendency to tunnel, which results in a playstyle clash at times.
If like to see you post this too of me mimickingIn post 4993, Naerys wrote:Pocketing? I dont think so. Mimicking my reads? YesIn post 4992, Luca Blight wrote:In post 4989, Naerys wrote: Well, Vivax has been trying to solve, or atleast it looks like that.
Looking back at Hu Tao, her solving feels kinda forced tbh.
Do you get the impression Hu Tao has been pocketing you?
This kinda lacks nervousness from a mislim, since we were close to mylo.In post 4802, Hu Tao wrote: VOTE: grack
Fine ill go grack. Like I said it doesn't matter. Grack/luca/vivax solves the game imo
In post 4237, Hu Tao wrote:I wouldn't put it past him. Could be 1 in thereIn post 4224, Naerys wrote:i wish gob actually spewed his team like this...In post 1670, gob wrote: im the mafia and my teammates are Luca and Vivax
In post 4239, Hu Tao wrote:I agree with this. At first I thought vivax was town but I remembered something he did that was sus. When I put gob at e-1 he unvoted. Originally I thought it was to protect oat but I think it was to give gob more time to fake claim a role.In post 4228, Naerys wrote:Good, beceause i am town.In post 4226, SuperfluousNinja wrote: You are making it very hard to scumread you, Naerys. lol
Vivax and Grack it is. I didnt like Vivax in previous day and Grack has some pretty bad wagon positions.
In post 4243, Hu Tao wrote:In post 3405, gob wrote: I'm not really following page 135 and 136In post 3407, DarthPunk wrote: It strikes me that gob really wants to survive more than solve in this game.In post 3408, Vivax wrote: UNVOTE:
I prefer another day where we can discuss both of them at E-2.
Many asleep rnThis is what I was talking aboutIn post 3464, Vivax wrote: I see you writing a lot but not much substance behind it when you could just look at the wagons and draw conclusions in a more rational way.
Instead you're back to claims like Oats pocketing TL buddies and all that jazz which is a cheap way of sowing distrust. Most of your arguments are based on something not making sense to you and there's massive amounts of purely aesthetic floof.
VOTE: Luca Blight
In post 4245, Hu Tao wrote: Let's wait for everyone to check in. I prefer vivax>grack but i agree that these 2 are likely last scum.
In post 4246, SuperfluousNinja wrote: Oh interesting, I thought you meant this one below! I was just digging it up... So he has two suspicious vote interactions with Gob, not one.
In post 2914, Vivax wrote: I don‘t see how gob is mafia trying to win the game over being fuck all not trying to solve it at all.
On the other hand I could see Oats being in charge of keeping the heat off DP while he‘s mia.
It‘s a bit unlikely for Grack to have this drastic turnaround on him if he‘s partnered with him ?
Maybe this could ease lots of doubts on Lucas, Ninjas and Dannflors side especially:
VOTE: DarthPunk
Yeah, knowing that Gob is scum, this looks really bad. His vote on him is initially very reluctant, and the very next post is switching his vote elsewhere (to someone who has towned it up pretty much all game, no less).
If anything I was more agreeing with Ninja not you, NaerysIn post 4247, Hu Tao wrote: Yep agreed. Let's see what the others think
what about when I said it? Is it because she was talking and I fell asleep?In post 4997, Luca Blight wrote: I'm starting to feel as though Naerys is more likely town, given she's actually reassessing her reads based on game developments.
In post 4239, Hu Tao wrote:I agree with this. At first I thought vivax was town but I remembered something he did that was sus. When I put gob at e-1 he unvoted. Originally I thought it was to protect oat but I think it was to give gob more time to fake claim a role.In post 4228, Naerys wrote:Good, beceause i am town.In post 4226, SuperfluousNinja wrote: You are making it very hard to scumread you, Naerys. lol
Vivax and Grack it is. I didnt like Vivax in previous day and Grack has some pretty bad wagon positions.
In post 5032, Hu Tao wrote::lol: what about when I said it? Is it because she was talking and I fell asleep?In post 4997, Luca Blight wrote: I'm starting to feel as though Naerys is more likely town, given she's actually reassessing her reads based on game developments.
Your day 1 that game was a hard tunnel. And a strong meta read one that was wrong. I didn't think scum would do that. That's the only reason I Town read you that gameIn post 5004, Luca Blight wrote:In post 5000, Hu Tao wrote:You mean the game where I had the townread that was right and you kept pushing on town. It's basically how I'm feeling this game. And left an important detail out. I Town read you that game because of your push day 1 and your confidence. Yet this game I saw nothing of that and there was not that same confidence. Why would this even be the same?In post 4945, Luca Blight wrote: And we recently finished a game together where we were both town, so I would have expected a bit more as she townread me for nearly all of that game.
I've pushed people like oats, Grack and Darth with confidence. I would have expected at least some development in your read based on that but you've always kept me as null/scum lean no matter what I've done this game.
In post 5004, Luca Blight wrote:In post 5000, Hu Tao wrote:You mean the game where I had the townread that was right and you kept pushing on town. It's basically how I'm feeling this game. And left an important detail out. I Town read you that game because of your push day 1 and your confidence. Yet this game I saw nothing of that and there was not that same confidence. Why would this even be the same?In post 4945, Luca Blight wrote: And we recently finished a game together where we were both town, so I would have expected a bit more as she townread me for nearly all of that game.
I've pushed people like oats, Grack and Darth with confidence. I would have expected at least some development in your read based on that but you've always kept me as null/scum lean no matter what I've done this game.
In post 190, Hu Tao wrote:Meta and your confidence. I don't think scum does that this earlyIn post 172, Luca Blight wrote:
Did the meta I provided convince you, or my analysis of Bugs in 145, or something else?
In post 639, Hu Tao wrote: Luca is my biggest townread, followed by ketchup I think.
This shows that the only reason I town read you that game was because of the meta read and day 1 confidence in 1 read. I didn't see that here, so how do you want me to Town read you again?In post 845, Hu Tao wrote:Tbh I thought Luca would die. but I guess their meta was wrong so maybe that's why scum kept them alive. Still think they are town.In post 824, ketchup777 wrote:I thought the dead would be one of me, black, hu tao or luca.In post 823, ketchup777 wrote:holy crapIn post 821, Thomith wrote:iamveryhappy has died! They were aVanilla Townie.
DeltaWave has died! She was aVanilla Townie.
Day Two begins now.
I did not see either of these coming
hmmmmmmmmmmmm
is the only way for a second person to die a vigilante?
In post 5011, Vivax wrote:This is funny because she was casting suspicion without being caught up.In post 2814, Naerys wrote: Hmm i am kinda thinking about the nightkills. Either scum got really lucky or there is person with good analytical mind
makes me kinda sus Dann tbh
But maybe she knew she had someone with said analytical mind on her team.
Dann tbh, let's remove the two n and a b
Da th
GOTCHA
In post 5039, Hu Tao wrote:In post 5011, Vivax wrote:This is funny because she was casting suspicion without being caught up.In post 2814, Naerys wrote: Hmm i am kinda thinking about the nightkills. Either scum got really lucky or there is person with good analytical mind
makes me kinda sus Dann tbh
But maybe she knew she had someone with said analytical mind on her team.
Dann tbh, let's remove the two n and a b
Da th
GOTCHA
Okay yes. But I just said I was willing to reconsider and you still are pushing the narrative where I'll just vote you tomorrow. Also if you thought this, why vote Darth? Say I was scum would I not kill vivax and it would be me you and naerys still? See the contradiction?In post 5015, Luca Blight wrote:In post 5013, Hu Tao wrote:This is why I'm having a hard time seeing you as town. I JUST said I am willing to reconsider everything but you're still pushing the same narrative that rules out having vivax as an Elim based on something that shouldn't be in play anymore. So why are you so worried about me and naerys tomorrow?In post 4969, Luca Blight wrote: Yeah, if I'm scum with vivax I really go head to head with Darth which I'm much more likely to lose in this game state, leaving Hu Tao and Naerys to vote Vivax off tomorrow
I don't understand what you mean.
I'm worried about you and Naerys as I'm trying to solve the game.
I literally fell asleep after I said I would reconsider. Why keep posting that I would reconsider after i didn't post after I said I would reconsider?In post 5023, Luca Blight wrote:In post 5021, Hu Tao wrote:Is this literally not the pocketing you were just saying? Because you literally did not give me the same type of interaction when I said I would reconsiderIn post 4983, Luca Blight wrote:In post 4981, Naerys wrote:Which makes it more probable to be Darth + Hu lolIn post 4980, Naerys wrote: Also Darth would be probably easy pocket if u and vivax are scum together
bcz i dont see any pocketing attempts from either Vivax or Luca
That is a possibility. I'm glad you're at least considering it.
Saying you will reconsider and actually reconsidering is quite different.
Okay. And what happened last game? I had a tr on you day 1 that stayed all the way till the end of the game. So what was the development there?In post 5027, Luca Blight wrote:In post 5024, Hu Tao wrote:Show me what your similarities are from last game. Take a look from my perspective, last game you pushed hard on someone day 1 to get them eliminated. That was the main reason I tr you that game. I can quote from that game if needed. This game I don't see that same aggressiveness day 1. Am I supposed to ignore that?In post 4987, Luca Blight wrote:In post 4984, Naerys wrote:How do you feel about Vivax. Do you think he could be scum with Darth or Hu?In post 4982, Luca Blight wrote:In post 4979, Naerys wrote:Yea scum is unlikely to bus at this stageIn post 4977, Luca Blight wrote: How about me, though? Do you really think I'd go 1v1 with Darth if me and vivax are scum together? That's literally the worst thing I could do.
If me and vivax are scum together, I buddy Darth (who I had been townreading anyway) and push Hu Tao, who Darth says he scumreads. That would be the only path to victory. Going 1v1 with Darth means I most likely die as everyone has already expressed a willingness to vote me, and everyone townreads Darth. Darth is then the NK and that leaves you, Hu Tao and vivax as the last three - both you and Hu Tao think vivax is scum, so it's an instant loss.
I've felt better about vivax recently, but I will look into the possibility of him being scum with Darth as well.
I'm having a hard time seeing Darth as town at the moment, but I'll try and consider all possibilities. Both me and Darth have a tendency to tunnel, which results in a playstyle clash at times.
I'm not talking about D1 - I have no qualms about you not townreading me D1. I think you should have reconsidered or developed your read based on my D2 play onwards, but it feels as though there was next to no development?
Well, if Darth flipped scum then whoever is town out of you and Naerys would have to consider the possibility of me being town, surely.In post 5042, Hu Tao wrote:Okay yes. But I just said I was willing to reconsider and you still are pushing the narrative where I'll just vote you tomorrow. Also if you thought this, why vote Darth? Say I was scum would I not kill vivax and it would be me you and naerys still? See the contradiction?In post 5015, Luca Blight wrote:In post 5013, Hu Tao wrote:This is why I'm having a hard time seeing you as town. I JUST said I am willing to reconsider everything but you're still pushing the same narrative that rules out having vivax as an Elim based on something that shouldn't be in play anymore. So why are you so worried about me and naerys tomorrow?In post 4969, Luca Blight wrote: Yeah, if I'm scum with vivax I really go head to head with Darth which I'm much more likely to lose in this game state, leaving Hu Tao and Naerys to vote Vivax off tomorrow :roll:
I don't understand what you mean.
I'm worried about you and Naerys as I'm trying to solve the game.
I think I already explained this. If not I'll come back to thisIn post 5029, Naerys wrote:This kinda lacks nervousness from a mislim, since we were close to mylo.In post 4802, Hu Tao wrote: VOTE: grack
Fine ill go grack. Like I said it doesn't matter. Grack/luca/vivax solves the game imo
Also i feel like Hu was silently supporting me not suspecting Darth
As I said I'm putting everyone back on the table. But I want you to explain why you think that I would reconsider you last game but not this one when I didn't last gameIn post 5034, Luca Blight wrote:In post 5032, Hu Tao wrote:what about when I said it? Is it because she was talking and I fell asleep?In post 4997, Luca Blight wrote: I'm starting to feel as though Naerys is more likely town, given she's actually reassessing her reads based on game developments.
Well, are you reassessing? Do you still think me/vivax are scum?