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Hi, I'm My Milked Eek and I'm your IC. I'm here to show you the ropes and to help you get acquainted to the rules of Mafia and the flow of the game as played on mafiascum.net.
Being an IC doesn't mean I'm better at this game, nor does it mean I tell absolute truths whenplayingthe game. I will be honest whenexplainingrules and tactics. This means I have two roles in this game: the role I got from the moderator and the role of IC as outlined in this article.
If you're confused about anything in the game, do not hesitate to address me. After all, that's why I'm here.
>> LinksI'd link to the newbie guide and such, but the mod has taken the liberty to do that already, so I'll only provide the above link. It's a bit more advanced than the links already provided and is by no means necessary literature, but it's a very convenient site to improve your logic skills and also a very interesting read. I suggest checking it out during the course of the game.
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I'm a player who prefers a short rvs. Preferably a post or 5-7. I usually spot something off in the first page and go from there. Asking questions, as you are doing now, feels a bit awkward and forced imo and an outdrawn rvs feels even more awkward. Blame my first game here which had a one post rvs.RayFrost wrote:Hey, MME, which of the following type of IC are you:
one that prefers the RVS
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one that prefers asking questions instead of the RVS
Why do you prefer one over the other?
And if you prefer the RVS, why not start us off?
And I didn't start because I grabbed a shower and fell asleep right after dinner.Eek!-
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Ok, so first you ask me what I think of the RVS, right?RayFrost wrote:and on that note:
vote: purple princessbecause peach is pink!
By this you are trying (or so I perceive) to not have an RVS. Correct?
Why are you random voting?
Vote: RayFrost
Sure.princess wrote:Can I just ask everybody, what sort of expeience you have at playing Mafia?
17 finished games.
Of which I won 10, 1 got abandoned and I lost 6 games.Eek!-
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Have to disagree with you there. Townies can unintentionally end the RVS, sure. But they can just as well end the RVS, there are some ways to do that. This leads me to the last line of the quoted selection: not every slip up is from a mafia.rustyshark wrote:So if you have made the same assumptions as me, it means that:
1. It is impossible for a townie to intentionally end the rvs. Ending the rvs requires information that presumably no townie has, unless/until a mafia slips up.
There is more information to be gained from the RVS than one would assume from a quick readthrough. Let me see if I can dig an example out of my finished games.rustyshark wrote:2. The RVS is not guaranteed to produce any useful information. Because the rvs only ends when useful information is known, this means the rvs might never end. Someone else once joked (which I take somewhat more seriously) about how the rvs usually ends in lylo.
First off, I know you're not doing it and I'm just saying as a general advice to everyone, do not speculate about power roles (or the setup for that matter) on D1 or D2 until more is known about the setup.rustyshark wrote:3. I've seen people in other games advocate a no lynch to give the power roles time to do something. But if there AREN'T any power roles (which is possible in the current setup), then a no-lynch is just a disaster that accomplishes nothing. Which basically means that there's no choice. Either sit here and do nothing and getting picked off one by one, or continuing and hoping the scum make a mistake.
Not liking this.rustyshark wrote:So come on, you scum out there. Start making mistakes so we can lynch you.
Yes, tell us why that line is wifom.echo wrote:To me, this line is so wifomy I would never say something like this.
Also a mini-v/la announcement. Going camping tonight in the woods. Obviously no Internet connection. Expect me back on Monday. Tuesday the latest.Eek!-
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It's one of my newbies I IC'd, I'll get to it later because I need to catch up in some topics.rustyshark wrote:
yes please do; experience from previous games is always a good thing.My Milked Eek wrote: Let me see if I can dig an example out of my finished games.
I'll hold off on responding to the rest of your RVS argument till then, since getting an actual example of a town ending the RVS would be way more clear than trying to argue about whether it's possible or how it could be done.
"ending the rvs"? What are you talking about?
Our little "debate" appears to be nothing more than a theory discussion. I see no need to wait for it.RayFrost wrote:Reasons for not posting:
no idea where to go from here
waiting on the MME/shark debate
I've got nothing to add ._."
Happy with my vote.
I agree, but as of yet, it's one of the few things we have to go on.bigmc109 wrote:The only thing that really sticks out to me as suspicious is rusty's line about scum making mistakes. I think Echo put it best when he said that's one of those lines that scum would say to make themselves seem increidbly pro-town. But it's also such a small thing that if rusty doesn't give us more scumtells, he won't even be a suspect.
Not following, don't you mean rusty?RayFrost wrote:Also, seeing echo's comment that way, it would be a WIFOM argument by echo, which is pointless. Also, the comment itself would not be WIFOM. Itwouldbe suspicious, though.
This is not quickly, especially not since the game has been moving slower than a snail on weed. Can I ask you what the point of this question is?ray wrote:MME: are you happy that the RVS seems to have finished so quickly, and that people are posting?
I don't like posts and unvotes like these.ray wrote:unvotenot rvs anymore, so yeah.
Hi. Perhaps you could post something of more relevance. Comment on rusty, echo and ray please.carrick wrote:Ive played a few times on another forum.Eek!-
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No, they're not always scum. Obviously. But they should be dealt with either way.purple princess wrote:@ Echo & My Milked Eek; What is your opinion on lurkers? are they always scum?
Instead of waiting for others to do the job, why not participate and make it easier for us?Crunchi wrote:
like I said, didn't really have anything to say.. figured I'd wait till a conversation I can partake in starts.My Milked Eek wrote:I guess she was watching. Any reason to your lurking?
It is not entirely pointless. And I don't like the unvote either for the context of the unvote as pointed out by startransmission.Crunchi wrote:
I unvoted because I find random voting to be pointless, I only did it because.startransmission wrote:That's because that's exactly what it is. She didn't post for close to five days, and within a couple of hours of having gotten a vote she shows up. That's classic lurking, and my vote sticks.
@Crunchi, why did you unvote PP? It seems like a gesture to garner goodwill.
Uh, no point in having a vote just because I dislike her icon though.. =/Unvote. Vote: CrunchiEek!-
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Awesome. Realize that this is a team based game.Crunchi wrote:
Because it's easier for me.My Milked Eek wrote:Instead of waiting for others to do the job, why not participate and make it easier for us?
1) you don't have suspectsCrunchi wrote:
But I don't really suspect PP of being mafia, I only voted to be part of the rvs, I'd rather keep my vote off until I find someone.My Milked Eek wrote: It is not entirely pointless. And I don't like the unvote either for the context of the unvote as pointed out by startransmission.Unvote. Vote: Crunchi(1)
rustyshark's"So come on, you scum out there. Start making mistakes so we can lynch you."made me think he might be, but then a big deal was made out of it and it lost it's sparkle.(2)
startransmission seems to turn everything scum related, which makes it seem like he's scum, but maybe he's just being active.(3)
Up till now I see no reason for purple princess, therefore no reason to keep a vote made randomly.
2) you had a suspect, but it died and judging the wording you used, you were around when he made that post. Why did you not chip in if you found it suspicious?
3) you had another suspect, but hemightbe active
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- you're in this game, play it or just read it
- were you around when sharky made that post? if so, why not chip in?Eek!-
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Unsettled?Carrick16 wrote:Crunchi - Seems to have an attitude or could just be someone easily unsettled, looking at crunchis responses to accusations of being a lurker.
And do you agree with the lurker comments?
Any reason to it?Carrick16 wrote:My vote from earlier was Ray Frost.
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I do not recall him saying that. I do recall him trying to apply pressure and get the game started. If this is on the "back" of a lurker, so be it.sharky wrote:I'm not attacking startransmission for attacking Crunchi, I'm attacking him for his assumption that lurkers are automatically scum. Crunchi just happened to be who he was going after.
star replaced for someone who didn't post iirc. That person obviously lost interest or something else came up or whatever. Where I'm going to with this is that the replaced player unintentionally lurked/flaked and as such was replaced and that crunchi intentionally lurked and even admitted to it.sharky wrote:Probably the best proof of what I'm saying is that startransmission himself replaced someone who barely posted anything at all - clearly the amount posted is determined by the person doing the posting more than the role they have.
I hope it's nothing too grave and I hope to see you in another game. Take care.sharky wrote:Also something has come up unexpectedly and I've asked to be replaced; I'll try to respond to stuff for the next day or so if anyone has any unsaid points.Eek!-
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Could you quote or link to the posts that make your radar ping?BlueRaven wrote:read through, first 2 pages are just RVS, and whats with (in page 3 i think) active = scum? i mean, it should be the other way round shouldnt it? People could just be over eger...
Same questions as before:ash wrote:Quick read finished, getting slight scum read from Crunchi from the lurking, other than that not much at all.
- startransmission vs crunchi
- rusty vs startransmission
And I like playing as both. I prefer a powerless role both as town as scum.Eek!-
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david-villa-7 wrote:Ray you pointed out something i noticed aswell, the attempt and fail of putting astrikeoutthrough your name instead of sharks. Was going to post about it but i just left itdavid-villa-7 wrote:Just done ISO read on who i replaced and noticed he voted starttransmission. because i dont have anything against him at the moment in going to go ahead andunvote
if im posting too much just tell me and i will be quiet
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"by the town" I meant: Do you mean he's buddying up to the entire town by asking that question? The question I was talking about being "if im posting too much just tell me and i will be quiet". This question can be perceived as buddying up to the entire town.BlueRaven wrote:
how would u know who town are? The only way to know that, this early on, is to be scum your self!My Milked Eek wrote:To the town, you mean?
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The two posts that I referenced/quoted were of little content and yet you were afraid to appear too active as said by:david-villa-7 wrote:MME your confusing me now. First what do you mean by "something more useful to the table"? Also when you reply to BlueRaven saying "to the town, you mean", whats that all about?
"if im posting too much just tell me and i will be quiet"
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Lol, most random reason to postpone a read/post I've heard so far.PorkchopExpress wrote:Hi, I'm replacing Crunchi. I have a schnitzel night coming up but I'll have a post up soonish.
Welcome.
And >_< 4 replacements in 2-3 days is a bit "eh".
Jumping on the wagon, but not really are you? If you want to vote crunchi/porkchop then why aren't you?Carrick16 wrote:Think i'll go for the Crunchi/PorkchopExpress vote , before he/she got replaced the behaviour was questionable.
Extremely little to go on so far, but there you go I guess.
My gut tells me the same thing, but I'm going to ask you for some details.tubby216 wrote:comfortable leaving my vote where it is for now.
Or perhaps not, I'll reread first and then I'll see if my gut is just on Blue.
Any reason you stopped posting content?startransmission wrote:Mod: I think you have me and Crunchi confused. I don't think I have 3 votes against me, at least I hope not...
I missed blueraven's unvote otherwise the count is accurate.
Really now? Do you know what active lurking is?BlueRaven wrote:
i believe that is called active lurking...tubby216 wrote:comfortable leaving my vote where it is for now.
Going to do a quick reread. I feel something is to be found in the thread.
@mod:newbie games usually run a 3 week deadline and I haven't seen any note of a deadline in the first posts or your votecounts. I just want to know if you didn't forget to tell us the deadline or if we have a deadline or not. I'm not asking to apply one.Eek!-
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Reread! And notes time:
>> BlueRaven
#139 - Trying too hard to incriminate me.
#156 - He's not active lurking. By saying he keeps his vote, he is sharing information. You're trying too much again.
>> carrick16
#047 - Why is this the only thing you posted? If you played a few times, then surely you understand the importance of posting content?
#055 - Can't believe I missed this.
"Rustyshark - Extremely shaky first post which points towards him being a goon unless he has friggin aspergers syndrome."
By goon, you mean, mafia goon right? And why "goon"?
#070 - What were you thinking when replying? "Oh, there's someone lurking and there are non-random votes thrown around, but let me answer this one question that has no relevance to the game".
#083 & #084 - "Let me answer the response to my previous post, I don't care about the continued lurking and the chainsaw defense."
#147 - Eh?
>> crunchi
#061 - Obvious lurking happening.
#074 - Undecisiveness to an opinion about some players.
>> purple princess
#054 - I like the rvs over asap, letting it run its own course is an uncommitted way to approach the game and reeks of setting up an excuse for scummy behavior during the rvs when called upon later.
#065 - I've never really liked questions like these. Makes me think the person asking them is trying to appear protown and active while the person isn' going to do anthing with th reactions and answers to the questions. The questions themselves are pretty non-relevant. The timing of the questions as well (after Crunchi's post in response to star) has me a bit worrying about attention diversion, especially since there's only one question about lurking in her set and it's a rather biased question.
#102 - Good posting and I agree with most parts of your conclusions.
>> rayfrost
#043 - There wasn't really a debate. And I'm not really getting the intent of this post. Are you telling us why you aren't posting (which you were) or are you giving bmc reasons/excuses as to why he hasn't posted yet?
#046 - Unvoting "because the rvs ended" is a lame reason to unvote. Was there any reason as to why you unvoted pp?
>> rustyshark
#030 - "Start making mistakes so we can lynch you.". I know I've gone over this before, but I still don't like that line (and the entire post either). It's trying too much.
#078 - Pretty obvious chainsaw defense. Even to the point of finding crunchi town. Sure, she could be town, but her behaviour is actually screaming "scummy" and at the least "antitown".
>>> Conclusions:
> Carrick is active lurking. Heavily. Not liking his play in general.
> Blueraven is my main suspect. Let me explain:
* Accuses people of wrongly accusing people, but then doesn't go through with it.
* Attempt to incriminate someone #1
* Attempt to incriminate someone #2
* Attempt to incriminate someone #3
* A lot of fluff content. Check his iso[1]posts.
Unvote. Vote: BlueRaven
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Ok, I thought so already, but I had to make sure.RayFrost wrote:In response to MME:
I didn't think PP was scummy enough to have a vote, pressure or otherwise. Thus, that, in combination with it no longer being RVS, led to an unvote.
I was givingmyreasons for not posting anything contentful and stuff... no analysis and things like that
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People not included I have rather good reads on and/or no questions for or notes about.
Why I picked BlueRaven above Carrick:
My gut is yelling louder on his name at the moment.
Do know and note that I don't like both carricks as ravens play.
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Are you saying we cannot decide on a lynch in 9 days or less? That's more than 1/3 of D1's maximum time.BlueRaven wrote:if you dont realise we only have 9 days till lynch. And i dont like the fact that we arnt any closer to getting a lynch.
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I apologize, I've had a hectic weekend. I'll get back on this momentarily.My Milked Eek wrote:Any reason you stopped posting content?
Not really buying that. I perceive your 1 & 3 as trying to egg on other people without looking too aggressive. Why FoS only me? If you truly believed I "slipped up" by calling startrans town, why didn't you vote me?raven wrote:Number 1 and 3 are just me putting in my opinions, im not trying to imcrimonate anyone, if i wanted to i'd try harder.
Are the actions you (mis)portrayed in 1 & 3 not worthy of a FoS or some more questioning? Are you not looking for suspicious behaviour?Eek!-
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Whether I find/found them worthy of questions or not isn't really relevant. You brought them up so you thought they were worthy of questions. Why else bring them up? It also doesn't matter if no one else didn't want to ask questions, you brought them up and by doing that you obviously have something to say or to note or ask about them.BlueRaven wrote:If you think they are worthy of asking questions, don't you think that at least another person would of followed on even if i stopped? Even so, as i said, its only my opinion. Nothing more, nothing less.
It''s equally important to find out if there's scum amongst the four of us or not. No need to wait or to "nag" about the inactives.BlueRaven wrote:But also may i add, seeing that its only mainly you, DV7, tubby, rayfrost and i that are posting its sort of hard to try and find scum of the rest of them.
Funny, I said that 1/3 thing after you FoS'd (or better phrased: not voted) me. I was under the impression you found there was so little time left and so little scummy behaviour around. I'd expect from such a stance that you'd at least vote me for "slipping up".blueraven wrote:Going back to your comment about voting for you, I am a catious voter and dont throw my vote around like there is no tomorrow, plus as you said, we have over a third of the time to decide.Eek!-
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My last post perhaps?BlueRaven wrote:ok then, what questions do you want me to answer? and as for the claim? I claim vanilla town.
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I'm not sure if I agree with "if blue flips town, the person who hammered will have to answer for it". At this point in the game 5 people think he's worth of a vote. Tubby, startrans, rayfrost and me. There's also porkchop, but he's going off on guts at the time of his vote and hasn't read my or tubby's case yet. So, approximately half of the players thinks he's scummy (or to put it better: the most suspicious amongst us). To blame the one that hammers is hypocritical and counterproductive as it would lead to a fear of hammering and subsequentially less hammering.
Tubby unvoting isn't suspicious or distancing. Upon reading startrans' vote my first reaction was "must unvote". Not so much for the quickhammer, but if blue is indeed scum he might selfhammer to end the day. Which is far worse than a quickhammer.
I'm going toUnvoteas well as I really want to prevent a self/quick hammer at this point. Do note that this still leaves blue in the range of a lynch because, if I read it correctly, tubby will vote him if his answers aren't sufficient or closer to deadline and I will do the same.
So despite taking my vote off, his feet are equally close to our fire as if my vote were still on him.
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That would have been me!Carrick16 wrote:Ok, whoeevr accused me of lurking, and saying ive played the game before so I should know how important it is to be active.
Firstly, this game is completely different from the one I played, secondly, I have been busy. But i'll try and contribute more, I'll be honest and say i've only skimmed through the recent posts. Ive got nothing to hide so ill just say the truth.
Feel free to ask me questions, cuz I havent been active and theres stuff ive not read, but im willing to answer anything. And I have no idea who to vote really so i'll have to go through this long thread tonight.
Reread the entire game and provide us with your insights and suspects. If you haven't got the time to read 200 posts (which isn't a long thread), address #166 and after that. A few posts before 166 are also advised.Eek!-
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I would like some prodding happening on Carrick16,Mod.
And I would not use that against BlueRaven at this point yet. It's been a day since he last posted. If this were closer to the deadline I'd be more worried/suspicious of him not answering directly. But as said, at this point it's a null tell.Eek!-
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lol, I was literally about to post a rant about your activity and then I clicked the preview button.BlueRaven wrote:sorry about that, mafia wont let me log in and im very busy on wednesdays. I dont get home till late on Thursdays.
To end the discussion of D1.BlueRaven wrote:Oh and why the hell would i self vote? it seems to be the most stupid thing to do!
Doing more thinking, post back tomorrow or tonight if im lucky.
And I'd rather have you answer tonight
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Yes, I find the word "clearly" in the context of a "mislynch" upsetting, especially when it's being misrepresented, I don't remember anyone bringing up a "mislynch" anywhere in the thread aside for the last posts of pp and ash. We were concerned about quick- and selfhammers, not mislynching. Makes me wonder where ash got that from.tubby216 wrote:
are you pointing out the misrep there MME?My Milked Eek wrote:
What?david-villa-7 wrote: [tubby] clearly doesn’t want amislynch.
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and agreed with starts assement we gain alot of informtion from a lynch no matter what the alignment of the lynchee is.
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That's unfortunate, but I admire your honesty. If you know someone, on site or in real life, who is able to take over for you, that'd be nice as it would save the mod some work.Carrick16 wrote:I am genuinely not lurking guys, I just have far too much on my plate at the moment, I am really sorry but I havent even been able to be online that much recently at all, let alone play this game the right way.
I'll have to ask to be replaced otherwise it isn't really fair on the rest of you guys.
Sorry for any inconvenience.
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Seeing how Ash has tubby as "most protown" (at 4 mind you), I don't think he's trying to incriminate tubby.RayFrost wrote:@ MME: think the "mislynch" bit was either an attempt to subtly say tubby is scum or do you think it was a scum slip?
The funny thing is, there's only one way Ash would and could know tubby knew it would be a mislynch: they're both scum.RayFrost wrote:By saying tubby was "trying to avoid a mislynch," it would mean that tubby knew it was a mislynch. thus, he would have to be scum.
That was indeed what I was implying. I have obviously no way to prove that or bring any evidence to the table at all, but I find the use of those words odd in that context.PorkchopExpress wrote:Mmm, for a second there I thought that MME was going to say that Ash caliing the BlueRaven a mislynch indicated that he knew Blue's alignment. Which can certainly happen, but would be a pretty ambitious point.
The mislynch comment you mean? Nothing really. Buddying to tubby, perhaps.porkchop wrote:@MME: So, running on the assumption that the misrep is scummy for a moment, what outcome is Ash's comment supposed to achieve?Eek!-
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That actually doesn't change the sentence.
"Seems town with the unvoted when Blue reached L-1, clearly doesn't want a mislynch. thats if [blueraven] is town of course."
You're talking about the intention of tubby, which was avoiding a quick/selfhammer while you said (and say) it was to avoid a mislynch.Eek!-
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Gut feelings are still pinged or called on by something, could you elaborate on the posts your gut is calling him town over?purple princess wrote:I just think it is my gut feeling right now that BlueRaven is town, I just have a slight feeling that maybe scum would be trying a little bit harder in this game and with posts like "doing more thinking will post back tomorrow if I'm lucky" just seems a little lacklustre, which makes me think he is just plain vanilla, I could be completely wrong, but that is just my opinion. I also didn't mean that abandoning the blue waggon would be a miracle, I just meant that if he isn't going to responed to peolpe voting for him before the deadline, without anyone making any 'slip ups' he looked like he would be lynched.
If you allow me to be suggestive and whatnot (cause that's how I roll), the context of the "blue = town" post is very eh. The context being that blue was at L-2 and that both tubby and I proclaimed our intent to hammer/lynch blue later on D1. The context leads me to the conclusion that that post was nothing more than a setup for a later "I told you so" post on D2, should we have lynched blue. The use of "gut" feelings on blue enforce this hypothesis in my opinion. Especially when the "gut" is in contrast with the cases laid out against blueraven.
So pp, I'd like you to:
- point out the posts which pinged/activated your gut
- point out where the cases are wrong
How does being on LA imply him being scum?purple princess wrote:But after seeing his post that he has limited access, he could therefore still be scum.
All in all, your choice of words and "gut" in the context given, feels a lot like trying to leave yourself some wiggling room if blue was lynched.
Sure it does. But how is this relevant to what we're saying?david-villa-7 wrote:whoops didnt see that post, but doesnt unvoting because he doesnt want a quick hammer seem town to you?
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It's more backtracking and trying not to say anything explicitly on blueraven. As said: leaving some wiggle room.PorkchopExpress wrote:PP - 252 wrote:I also didn't mean that abandoning the blue waggon would be a miracle, I just meant that if he isn't going to responed to peolpe voting for him before the deadline
And we have a lie!PP - 227 wrote:I am unsure if we will have some kind of mircale before deadline, otherwise I can see that you may be the first to be lynched, which would be a complete waste if you do flip town.
As said: wiggle room and word choice are throwing me off as well.porkchop wrote:Also, reread post 252. PP (who has avoided really saying anything about Blue) spends a great deal of that post adding qualifiers to everything. It seems to me that she'd rather not get caught giving an explicit opinion on Blue.
qftporkchhop wrote:@PP: Even though you (very quickly) threw in the towel in response to MME's request to explain your read, I'm not inclined to let you get away with not addressing the case against Blue. Actually reread the Blue discussion, and post some opinions on it. Who knows, you might even stumble across something that justifies your read along the way.
That's not explaining, that's saying "idk that's just the way it is". Also, thanks for ignoring the second request.purple princess wrote:
I think I have explained my reasoning for my thoughts on BlueRaven, cannot point out the posts which make me feel that way.My Milked Eek wrote:So pp, I'd like you to:
- point out the posts which pinged/activated your gut
- point out where the cases are wrong
Once again, how does him being on LA imply that he is scum?purple princess wrote:
I didn't say that, I meant that thatMy Milked Eek wrote:How does being on LA imply him being scum?havening a genuine reason for not being able to post may mean that he could be scum, but cannot defend himself as much as he would like.
I can tell. But we're not talking about any WIFOM, the WIFOM you're enduring is purely brought up and experienced on your end.pp wrote:Arggggh! right now I can feel myself going around in big WIFOM circles, As I am typing this I am kind of talking myself out of the whole BlueRaven = town
Odd sentence, but whatever. If she is distancing from the bluelynch (which she was nota bene), then I would say blue is town (yes despite the case I have against him).pp wrote:Perhaps she is distancing from the lynch of her scum buddy or a townie?
At this point I'd rather much pursue pp or ash than blueraven. If not only because they are more responsive.
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I just find it odd, I'll get back on it during an eventual reread later on.RayFrost wrote:How is it an odd sentence?
I consider distancing a possibility whenever I see something like this... perhaps because I don't have the proper definition for it?
Anyway, I think my vote is on ash... it's staying.
No, you were right in a way, she was distancing, but not from BlueRaven, she was distancing from the bandwagon/(mis)lynch on BlueRaven, which is scummy.
RayFrost wrote:Hey Blue!!!!!
Why don't you respond to the case made against you?
Halfassed answers and only to the half of my case. Retry please.BlueRaven wrote:which case? the one MME sorta already delt with? I already commented on it.
I don't even know what this is supposed to be or what you're saying.BlueRaven wrote:But just giving my opinion, if i were her? I would defend me cus less experienced players are easyer targets later on in games. I'd focus on a different target or a lier, implying the 'lynch all liers polocy' or that she dosnt like his move and 'lynch for lieing'. Then tonight i'd probobly kill off the IC or anyone who proposes a possible threat. (But at this case its probobly everyone, so that was just a WIFOM) Even if im dead and this happens this confirms my suspissions.
Great and then you go do the thing you say you'd do if you were pp.BlueRaven wrote:Oh and i forgot to add:vote: D-V-7i dont like the way he puposly lied about that. On my scum-o-meter he's just been bumped to first.
Not a lie: backtracking.purple princess wrote:I don't see a lie here.
No you haven't. Vote's staying.pp wrote:
No thanks, I have said all I have to say on this matter for now.PorkchopExpress wrote:@PP: Even though you (very quickly) threw in the towel in response to MME's request to explain your read, I'm not inclined to let you get away with not addressing the case against Blue. Actually reread the Blue discussion, and post some opinions on it. Who knows, you might even stumble across something that justifies your read along the way.
No you haven't. You just rephrased your original statement.pp wrote:
I have already done this once thanks.My Milked Eek wrote:Once again, how does him being on LA imply that he is scum?
LA = Limited Access = Genuine reason not to vote.
Now, again, why is Blue being on LA a sign of him being scum(my).
Meh.blue wrote:
You do realise if this now happens tonight all fingers will be pointing at you tomorrow don't you?BlueRaven wrote:Then tonight i'd probobly kill off the IC or anyone who proposes a possible threat.Eek!-
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I agree with the case that was made and if memory serves me correctly, I was pushing it for some time as well, until pp popped out to be more scummy. I would have like it better if we lynched pp, but ash will do.tubby216 wrote:MME your thoughts on ash please??
I will drop the hammer a bit closer to the deadline, if you don't mind. If he hasn't been hammered yet that is, which I do believe he has been. Unfortunately the vote count was off, but in the end the result remains the same, so no harm done.Eek!-
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As per the rules of the Newbie queue, you are now considered to be an SE.
"When you finish your second game anywhere on this site, you are then considered a Semi-Experienced player and will occupy one of the Semi-Experienced playing spots. Semi-Experienced players may play in as many games as they can handle."Eek!-
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Welcome. Any input on yesterday?Nikanor wrote:If we have a cop, he should reveal himself now. We pretty much automatically win in that case, as the doc will protect him every night without fail.
The doctor SHOULD NOT CLAIM, however.
Andvote: purple princess. Picking up where I left yesterday.Eek!-
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Quick? We used up 18 of the 21 available days.purple princess wrote:Wow that was a quick lynch, and a very lucky one aswel.
So, is this one of the reasons you're voting nikanor?pp wrote:I think that it was a little unfortunate that Carrick16 asked for a replacement when he did, if he was david-villa-7's scum buddy surely he would have stuck up for him a little bit towards the end of the day, no one wants their scum buddy to be the first to lynched.
pp wrote:Also looking back on Carrick's post's I have noticed someting which unsettles me a bit.