You awaken to the hustle and bustle of your home town’s daily activity. Little did you know that the peaceful quiet of your normal, everyday life would come crashing down today. It seems that one of your fellow citizens has angered the Mob, and has paid for it with his life! What are you going to do? Why, you’re going to get your peaceful, little town back, that’s what…
Your job, fair citizens of the town’s Ruling Council, is to discover who among you belong to the Mafia and summarily lynch them. Two of your fellow Council members are working for the Mafia - find them before they take over the Council and the town!
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There is to be NO personal communication outside of the forum postings unless your role PM specifically allows it.
If you have a role with a Night action your choices are due to me by the posted deadline. If I do not receive your choice via PM by the posted deadline you will forfeit your actions.
Roles with Night actions will not be able to submit an action on Night 0 (i.e. during the confirmation stage).
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In order for all players to play at least one game day this game will start with a Day phase. Communication outside the thread (if your role specifically allows it) is allowed until the game begins.
As a general rule you should aim for one post every 48 hours, minimum, to keep the game moving.
All Newbie games have strict 3-week deadlines.
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Treat this game as a commitment. Be considerate – don’t leave us hanging.
Voting, Deadlines, and Player Death:
A simple majority of all living members must agree on one person for a Lynch to occur (simple majority = ½ # of living players +1, rounded down).
Votes should be bolded or they may not be counted (e.g.
Vote: Player
).
Vote revocations should be bolded or they may not be counted (e.g.
Unvote: Player
or
Unvote
). Unvotes are not necessary before changing votes.
You may
Vote: No Lynch
- a simple majority of these vote types are required to send the game to Night phase without a Lynch.
Votes/Unvotes that are bolded correctly and are unambiguous (with respect to player nicknames/abbreviations) will count. Attempting to fake a vote will result in a Modkill.
In the case of a tie at deadline, the person who had the most votes before the tie will be lynched. If no one has a simple majority of votes at deadline a No Lynch will occur.
Once you have reached a simple majority no further unvoting will change someone’s fate.
Once a player is lynched the game enters twilight until I post a death scene; all players may continue to post.
Once you are killed (either via lynch or night kill) you may no longer post except for a brief “Bah!”-type post.
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or
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The F11 setup is the current game format used in Newbie games. To prevent the development of game-breaking strategies, these Newbie Games are Semi-Open, wherein the actual game setup is randomly chosen from one of four possible setups as detailed below:
If either of the first two setups are in play, and the situation occurs where the Goon is lynched first, the Roleblocker will still be able to submit both night kills and roleblocks (roleblocking is a function of the Roleblocker; night kills are a function of the scum team as a whole).
These are the Role PMs that have potentially been sent to the players:
(who is also a Mafia Goon) are part of the local Mafia crime family. Since your plot to quietly overtake the town has failed, you will attempt take it by force by eliminating the others until you outnumber the populace.
During the day, try to blend in with the normal Townies, and attempt to get someone lynched.
During the NIGHT cycle ONLY, you may talk with your fellow Mafia (via this QuickTopic) and choose another player in the town to kill that night. One of you must
send me a PM
with your choice of who to kill.
You may communicate privately via QuickTopic with your fellow Mafia up until the game thread is opened (this is called Night 0). Once the game begins, all outside communication must cease until the night cycle.
You win when the number of Mafia equals or exceeds the number of remaining Town players, whether you survive to the end or not.
(a Mafia Goon) are part of the local Mafia crime family. Since your plot to quietly overtake the town has failed, you will attempt take it by force by eliminating the others until you outnumber the populace.
During the day, try to blend in with the normal Townies, and attempt to get someone lynched.
During the NIGHT cycle ONLY, you may talk with your fellow Mafia (via this QuickTopic) and choose another player in the town to kill that night. One of you must
send me a PM
with your choice of who to kill.
The Mafia Roleblocker has the ability to distract any player throughout the night, effectively negating their night ability, if they have one.
The Mafia should send the moderator a PM with your choice of player that you want to block (usually along with the kill). If they have a Night action, it will have no effect. You will not be informed as to whether the roleblock worked or not.
The Mafia may communicate privately via QuickTopic up until the game thread is opened (this is called Night 0). Once the game begins, all outside communication must cease until the night cycle.
You win when the number of Mafia equals or exceeds the number of remaining Town players, whether you survive to the end or not.
To continue, HI NACHO. (he's one of my favorite people to play with.) Nacho was in my first newbie game, which was actually modded by VRK. I don't know either of the SEs, but I'm sure I'll get to know them soon.
Vote Nacho
for being the first person to have solid reads on me in multiple games.
"If I had to label someone as dangerous, it'd be Pulindar. I have a feeling his scum game is very similar to his town game.... What I think is dangerous about Pulindar is that his scumreads feel so liquid. He can post a wall of questions and decide he doesn't like your answer to one of them and justify a vote on you." ~ Prawneater
Oh, By the way, Nacho is at L-4 that means that 4 more votes will lynch him. I guess [no] is as well.
It's just something to keep up on, accidental lynches are the worst.
"If I had to label someone as dangerous, it'd be Pulindar. I have a feeling his scum game is very similar to his town game.... What I think is dangerous about Pulindar is that his scumreads feel so liquid. He can post a wall of questions and decide he doesn't like your answer to one of them and justify a vote on you." ~ Prawneater
But maybe you are scum enough to pile on vote and take someone to L-3, right Thor?
After one post youre capable to know who is or not scum? Or youre just trying to convince the townies to lynch one of them randomly while you and your scum teammate escapes?
Die Prediger wrote:But maybe you are scum enough to pile on vote and take someone to L-3, right Thor?
Interesting. Re-read your post above this one and tell me how you're doing anything differently. Haven't you just decided I'm scum based off of a single post?
Die Prediger wrote:But maybe you are scum enough to pile on vote and take someone to L-3, right Thor?
Interesting. Re-read your post above this one and tell me how you're doing anything differently. Haven't you just decided I'm scum based off of a single post?
Youre right. I did the same thing that youve done. We can find scummy behavior all the time, no? You just have to want to.
Excellent - so we agree that scummy behavior can be found in one post.
Why are you voting me again? Your claim thus far (insomuch as I can tell) was that it was scummy of me to find scummy behavior in one post. You've just agreed that's not scummy, so clearly you have to see something scummy in me besides that, what is it?
Also, do you think AurorusVox is scummy for wanting to vote for people she thinks she'll get positive vibes off of later in the game?
Thor665 wrote:Excellent - so we agree that scummy behavior can be found in one post.
Yes, in one, but hardly on the first. It would be smarter to wait some time, dont you think?
Thor665 wrote:
Why are you voting me again? Your claim thus far (insomuch as I can tell) was that it was scummy of me to find scummy behavior in one post. You've just agreed that's not scummy, so clearly you have to see something scummy in me besides that, what is it?
Nope, the reason was not that one. If you read carefully, you will see the reason is to take someone to L-3 rightaway. Or youre just trying to pressure on me, or you are on a scum bandwagon. So you can take 2 reasons why i voted on you.
Thor665 wrote:Also, do you think AurorusVox is scummy for wanting to vote for people she thinks she'll get positive vibes off of later in the game?
Nope, should I?
Besides, what do you think about someone that votes just because the name of the other?
Can someone please clarify something for me? Does "5 to lynch" mean we
have
to get five votes on someone to lynch them? Or is it just the number of votes that
guarantees
that someone gets lynched? I.e. can someone be lynched with the highest number of votes, even if its not >50%?
Answer is in the rules post:
This means that for Day 1 you need 5 votes on one person to lynch them.
If the deadline rolls around and no one has 5 votes, you only need 3 votes. If two or more people have 3 votes, the first person to 3 gets the noose. If no one has 3 votes, a No Lynch occurs.
AurorusVox wrote:Can someone please clarify something for me? Does "5 to lynch" mean we
have
to get five votes on someone to lynch them? Or is it just the number of votes that
guarantees
that someone gets lynched? I.e. can someone be lynched with the highest number of votes, even if its not >50%?
Vel-Rahn Koon wrote:
Voting, Deadlines, and Player Death:
A simple majority of all living members must agree on one person for a Lynch to occur (simple majority = ½ # of living players +1, rounded down).
At deadline, ½ the original number of votes will be required for a lynch. In the case of a tie, the person who first received the required number of votes will be lynched. If this number is not met, a No Lynch will occur.
There will be no reduced number of votes in LyLo.
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Die Prediger wrote:Yes, in one, but hardly on the first. It would be smarter to wait some time, dont you think?
Wait for what? Some random length of time to start scumhunting? No, no I do not think that.
Nope, the reason was not that one. If you read carefully, you will see the reason is to take someone to L-3 rightaway. Or youre just trying to pressure on me, or you are on a scum bandwagon. So you can take 2 reasons why i voted on you.
1. Taking someone to L-3 is not in and of itself scummy (and town needs to do this during the game).
2. Trying to put pressure on a player is not in and of itself scummy (and town needs to do this during the game).
3. Or I could be scum, yes, that would be scummy.
Thor665 wrote:Also, do you think AurorusVox is scummy for wanting to vote for people she thinks she'll get positive vibes off of later in the game?
Nope, should I?
Maybe. Why would you want to vote for someone you were getting positive energy from? Votes should go towards people you have negative energy towards. Do you disagree?
Besides, what do you think about someone that votes just because the name of the other?
Depends when it happens. Within the first two pages - I generally have no issue with it. Beyond that I have very strong issues with it.
AurorusVox wrote:I was under the impression that this was the Random Voting Stage. Surely I don't need real reasons for voting someone at this point? >_>
You don't need "real reasons" but your reasons are real (if you catch the difference) and I am content to hold you to what you said. Are you suggesting we shouldn't hold players accountable for what they say?
AurorusVox wrote:Can someone please clarify something for me? Does "5 to lynch" mean we
have
to get five votes on someone to lynch them? Or is it just the number of votes that
guarantees
that someone gets lynched? I.e. can someone be lynched with the highest number of votes, even if its not >50%?
VRK wrote:# At deadline, ½ the original number of votes will be required for a lynch. In the case of a tie, the person who first received the required number of votes will be lynched. If this number is not met, a No Lynch will occur. There will be no reduced number of votes in LyLo.
In my opinion this would, usually, be a good thing for scum as the only way we can kill them is through lynching. and lynching provides flips which often helps lead to scum as well.
Also, I don't find a problem with answering questions aimed at other people it shows your involved. Just don't do it when specifically asked not to.
This RVS is going fairly well, but we need more people to jump in. Anyway,
Unvote Nacho
L-5
Vote Die Prediger
L-2
"If I had to label someone as dangerous, it'd be Pulindar. I have a feeling his scum game is very similar to his town game.... What I think is dangerous about Pulindar is that his scumreads feel so liquid. He can post a wall of questions and decide he doesn't like your answer to one of them and justify a vote on you." ~ Prawneater
I forgot to include this definition for those of you who don't know.
VRK and Thor both Sniped me
"If I had to label someone as dangerous, it'd be Pulindar. I have a feeling his scum game is very similar to his town game.... What I think is dangerous about Pulindar is that his scumreads feel so liquid. He can post a wall of questions and decide he doesn't like your answer to one of them and justify a vote on you." ~ Prawneater
Thor665 wrote:You don't need "real reasons" but your reasons are real (if you catch the difference) and I am content to hold you to what you said. Are you suggesting we shouldn't hold players accountable for what they say?
No, of course not. Players should always be held accountable for what they say. You can still hold me to my statement that I like the punctuation, namely the square brackets "[" and "]", for as long as you like. I prefer BB code to HTML for this very reason.
1. That is a complicated question. During RVS the threshold of what is or is not scummy can be modified quite dramatically. I found it 'scummy enough' I suppose is the best way to describe it. I would certainly not advance a scum claim on those merits alone at any point other then during the very opening of a game, however.
2. I do not see this as mutually exclusive. Why would you think a vote has to be for either a perceived scum tell *or* to 'test' someone?
3. I did not imply what he said. I offered my interpretation of what he said. I accept that it was my interpretation. Do *you* think it was a misrep of him?
4. Going with the purest definition of OMGUS (oh my gawd, you suck - for the newbies). An OMGUS vote is a vote made on someone only because they are attacking/voting for you. I do not believe Die's vote was OMGUS.
5. He attempted to provide reasons for his counter vote. I am unimpressed by his reasons which is why I was pressuring him to justify the logic of his vote, but since his vote wasn't parsed "You're voting for me? Obv scum is obvious" it was not OMGUS.
I disagree with you as far as the 'it's okay to answer questions directed at others' because that then allows the person who was asked the question to frame their answer in a cop-out way by saying 'ah, what he said' instead of actually answering it themselves.
Aurorus answered a question that had already been answered, however, so I have zero issue with that specific point.
If I ask a question of someone I do not think I should need to say each and every time that I expect their answer to the question (if we're going that route I wish it to be understood that all my questions will have this caveat attached to them even if I do not type it out)