GreyICE wrote:Also I really smell a mass lovers claim coming on at some point.
Well well well, look at that, I don't even have to put down a RVS vote. Quickest exit from RVS ever? I think so.
For the record, the entirety of my involvement in signing up for this game was Sens IMing me one day and going "Reck, sign up for my lovers game" and I was just like "link?" and said "/in".Kise wrote:FOS- feigning ignorance when I KNOW you read the role PMs during signups. I like how you disappeared for 3 hours to let everyone soak it in and give you cheap town points. I'm not lynching you on the first day, but I've got you pegged.
Please, continue with this line of thought instead of just trailing off… assuming I had some master plan involved here, what was my gain out of having some long, drawn out plan to get people to ask me about lover-claiming?Kise wrote:1) I'm not lynching Nero today either.
2) So your plan from the start was to goad players into asking you why you had a problem with lover-claiming... mhmm…
First off, that's literally the most disturbing thing I could think of.Haylen wrote:Unvote
He's town because we slept together.
Second off, how is this even remotely considered content?Haylen wrote:I was going to ask why Emptyger hadn't answered Umbrage's question, then I realised I was reading the thread backwards.
Third off, I REFUSE TO BELIEVE ANYONE IS THIS FUCKING RETARDED.Haylen wrote:Did Reckoner just claim a kill?
1) Passive-aggressive complaining about how fast the game is already moving.Haylen wrote:1Oh wow, you guys speak loads. 2I could get behind a massclaim, 3but I would like to see Baby Spices opinion on it first.
4Current town read: Silvador
5Current neutral read: Umbrage
6Current scum read: Emptyger - he seemed a bit strawmanny and enthusiastic
7Vote Haylen
Claim: Vanilla Cop Chain Doc Fridge Mad Scientist Lover Surviver to a Jester.
HOLY SHIT. KISE, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU ON ABOUT?Kise wrote:This, plus the convo I had with him over on AIM about this setup, make me sure he's feigning ignorance to gain town points in a situation where he (as scum) cannot pick off other players with nightkills.
Thank you for your vote, now please redirect it onto Kise's lying ass.q21 wrote:I quite like reck's Haylen vote... so
No you don't.vizor wrote:I want to sleep with Haylen too:(.
You guys have a point, but please give your thoughts on Kise.Snake wrote:Im in agreement with my lover. q21 has posted 5 times. 4 Times he's directing his viewpoints at GreyICE he also has a vote on him early on, then all of a sudden in the 5th flips on a dime and votes for Haylen with no real motivation? Very scummy.
I can't say much more without getting modkilled/banned from Mafiascum.silv wrote:Aw, how is that thought so disturbing?
Are you fucking retarded? My case is that it WASN'T a joke post. Jesus Christ.silv wrote:I'm not really understanding why you're trying to build a case on Haylen based on one joke post, though.
Are you purposely trying to completely disregard everything I said and create a baseless attack on me? That seems awful scummy to me.silv wrote:Are you purposely trying to create an easy lynch?
Try harder please.GreyICE wrote:/sheeps lover
Except Kise & I have not talked about this game once, and I wasn't even consciously aware of the fact that he was IN THIS GAME until he posted his first post, which contained the initial attack on me.Purple Orange wrote:Cross out my support of Reck then, if really wasthataware of the setup. I darn forgot that half of the setup, so I could actually understand Reck forgetting, IM conversation or no. But "didn't realize" =/= forgot.
I just took the screenshot. Uploading it now to send to the mod and ask if this is okay.Mod's Rules wrote:[10]Don’t quote any PMs from me or other players. If you do, I will cast Summon Nature's Modkill V on you.Also, if you have anything sneaky or dicey such as screenshots, cryptography etc, please PM me and check.
USE YOUR FUCKING BIG BOY BRAIN AND CITE SOME GODDAMN EVIDENCE OR STOP PLAYING THIS GAME IMMEDIATELYsilavor wrote:Reck seems very jumpy, flinging himself desperately at every possible lynch he can find, using whatever evidence he can find.
silavor wrote:Meanwhile, it's entirely possible that Kise thought he was remembering a conversation he'd had with Reck, when it was really a conversation with someone else. I'd like to hear Kise's side before passing any judgement.
No, I only take deep breaths for players who deserve it, and you sure as hell do not.silavor wrote:As for calling me fucking retarded, I'd like you to take a deep breath, then take another look at the post from Haylen you have issues with.
Let me ask YOU something since you seem so keen on white knight'ing Haylen until she lets you into her pants or something: what the FUCK is the pro-town benefit of purposely putting scummy things into your post? If she did it on purpose (which I still doubt), then what she did was BLATANTLY ANTI-TOWN and thus A SCUMMY ACTION.silavor wrote:What's more likely, that Haylen accidentally put a ton of scummy things all in to one introductory post, or that she purposely put a ton of scummy things into one introductory post as a bit of humor?
I would say I don't know how you can take it so passively…but…see aforementioned 'head up Haylen's snatch etc' comment.silavor wrote:I honestly don't know how you can take it so seriously.
THIS QUESTIONsilavor wrote:Are you really that desperate for a lynch?
Can you do me a favor and claim your lover?Mariyta wrote:Nice. Look forward to seeing it.xRECKONERx wrote:I just took the screenshot. Uploading it now to send to the mod and ask if this is okay.Mod's Rules wrote:[10]Don’t quote any PMs from me or other players. If you do, I will cast Summon Nature's Modkill V on you.Also, if you have anything sneaky or dicey such as screenshots, cryptography etc, please PM me and check.
WROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONGsilvascum wrote:You snap on to ICE right away in RVS, single-mindedly focusing on him because he suggested massclaiming, an idea everyone was behind for obvious reasons.
If it's a "but whatever" thing then why are you even attempting to use it against me.silvascum wrote:Then you snap on to Thingy for using terminology from another site, which I thought was kind of obviously not scummy, given he uses the same terminology in the sign-up thread, but whatever, you dropped the case real quick.
Haylen's joke post wasn't obviously a joke, you twat. Mine was. I even said MINDLESS SHEEPING LOL in the post. And tell me how my inability to read someone else's joke post at all relates to my ability to post a joke post. LOGIC NOT FOUND. SCUMPOINTS RISING RAPIDLY.silvascum wrote:Still don't get why you voted Emp, as your vote for Emp looks like a joke post, but since you're incapable of seeing other people's joke posts, I can't comprehend the idea of you making a joke post of your own. It just doesn't seem possible.
OH MY GOD IT'S LIKE DRMYSHOTTYIZSIK GAINED A VOCABULARY BUT RETAINED HIS IQsilvascum wrote:Then, of course, you leap straight off Haylen and on to Kise for what could very well be a total misunderstanding.
Listen,silvascum wrote:The point is, every one of your cases so far is based on a single piece of misinterpreted garbage, with the exception of Emp where you were just bandwagoning. I see nothing town about any of that.
No. I based my assault on GreyICE off the NORMAL MO FOR MAFIA GAMES which is that MAFIA HAVE NIGHTKILLS. I didn't say I misremembered - I never knew there weren't nightkills in this game. That is a completely different scenario, and if you misrep me again so help me god I'm going to lose the last bit of civility I'm trying to maintain to refrain from getting modkilled.silvascum wrote:You have based the ENTIRETY of your assault on GreyICE the first day on the fact that you supposedly KNEW FOR SURE that GreyICE knew there would be nightkills… it was the MOTHERFUCKING CRUX OF YOUR CASE… and you want us to be willing to just write it off as 'lol i misremembered'?
It wasn't fucking humorous. If she was going to try and be blatantly fucking humorous, then why the FUCK did she bother to give TOWN, NEUTRAL, AND SCUM READS ON PLAYERS? You don't fucking do that if it's funny. The claim was the only obvious joke part of that post, and it has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE REST OF HER POST.silvascum wrote:...Or she wanted to make a humorous entrance, so she makes an obvscum joke post that's obviously a joke? No one else is taking it seriously, in fact two other players commented on how funny it was, proving that other people realized her intro post for what it was; a humorous joke.
And since you're going to insist upon it, sources:
You are taking my attempts to scumhunt and launch assaults against players I find scummy… and instead of viewing them in that light, DELIBERATELY trying to show them as "Why are you so desperate for a lynch?"silvascum wrote:lolwut? Please explain.
Okay, good, at least you admit you're wrong.silva wrote:It was a vote at the beginning of the game, and RVS continued for quite a few pages after. Terribly sorry for not taking you on your word that it was legitimate scumhunting, without even a drop of RVS.
Yes, because I DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WERE NO NIGHTKILLS WHY THE FUCK ARE WE STILL HARPING ON THIS FFSsilva wrote:Also, you really need to take a closer look at the start of the game. Snake's issue was ICE suggesting without actually suggesting, not the fact that ICE suggested a massclaim. And after your vote, on the next page, there still isn't anyone against a mass loverclaim except you, until Purple Orange has a momentary lapse in recollection.
No, but once you're lynched, it'll be totally cathartic for me to remove anothersilva wrote:One of you is lying, and unlike you I'm not totally convinced you're the innocent one. Screaming at me isn't going to help.
No. Just, no. You don't make lists. You don't give REASONS FOR SOMEONE BEING SCUMMY if it's a joke.silva wrote:Listing town, neutral and scum reads = making a suspicion list, just like what those other two guys did earlier. Notice how everyone jumped on them for making lists, and how they were all saying how scummy it is to make lists? It's almost as if Haylen was putting obvscummy things in to her intro post to be humorous. OH WAIT!
Listen, yousilva wrote:Oh don't get me wrong, I've looked at your cases with impartial bias (well, except for Haylen's, because I already know she's town). Then I found you scummy for making them in the first place. Obviously I'm trying to show them as "why are you so desperate for a lynch," because being "desperate for a lynch" is synonymous with "being scum." I'm not quite sure why you find scumhunting "mind bogglingly retarded and idiotic," but hey, whatever floats your boat.
oh my fucking goddramonic wrote:Not up to date, but I see we're lover claiming
My lover is... Werewolf.
;_;
Babe, make him go awaaaaaaaaaaaay.
Without lynching me if possible.
OH NO GUYS I SCARED OFF HAYLENHaylen wrote:Request replacement
I'm not playing with someone who can't keep personal issues out of a game and acts like a total cock. Maybe this'll get you some brownie points with your little friends, Reck.
You can go back to lurking and ride my coattails while I win this for town.Nero Cain wrote:What the hell? First you nearly get us lynced and then you nearly get us modkilled? You are the worst lover EVAH!!!!
I apologize for Recks Douche behavior.
Butthurt about what exactly?werewolf555 wrote:don't be so butthurt and stop trollingxRECKONERx wrote:Shut up werewolf. Just make your avoid-the-prod posts and let the grownups play mafia.
Because at the time you weren't claiming to have some kind of bullshit NON-EXISTENT IM conversations with me?Kise wrote:I need to investigate the authenticity of this myself. Reck, why didn't you call me out on this the first time I accused you of feigning ignorance?
Here: viewtopic.php?p=2768860#p2768860
KISE'S ENTIRE FUCKING CASE ON ME IS BASED ON THE FACT THAT I SUPPOSEDLY TOLD HIM, IN AN OUT OF GAME CONVERSATION, THAT I KNEW ABOUT THERE NOT BEING SCUMKILLS.Kcdaspot wrote:or are you seriously arguing that these out of game trifles HONESTLY has to do with Kise being scum?
You didn't say HOW you knew. And since this conversation never happened, why the fuck would I assume I needed to prove that we never had a conversation about this?Kise wrote:You didn't answer it. You said that SensFan, FTR, wanted you to join the game. What I'm asking you is why didn't you bring down the lightning and thunder the first time I threw a FOS your way and said I KNEW you were feigning ignorance?
Kise wrote:Nah forget that. I said I knew you read role PMs during signups and you brushed it off, the fuck?
Because that, to me, sounds like "I'm CONVINCED you read your role PM" not "I KNOW you read your role PM (based off other information)".Kise wrote:feigning ignorance when I KNOW you read the role PMs during signups. I like how you disappeared for 3 hours to let everyone soak it in and give you cheap town points. I'm not lynching you on the first day, but I've got you pegged.
Uh, what?EmpTyger wrote:Reckoner:
(…And let me say right now that what you’ve been posting is in no way “good”.)
Haylen, silavor, and Kise have done 3 very different things. Why have you the same over-the-top reaction to all 3?
When I'm convinced I've done something, I use the word "know". As in, "I KNOW I put my keys on the rack, where the hell did they go?" or "I KNOW I had my phone before I walked out the door, did I drop it?" You're getting into an argument about semantics now, and it's tedious and ultimately pointless. Assuming you're correct in your line of questioning for a moment, what would be advantageous about me to not go off on you earlier if I had known that's what you were talking about?Kise wrote:@Reck: Your words still do not match up with the issue at hand. Irregardless of how you became involved in this game, I claimed to have known you read the scum's role PM and you didn't call me out on it back then. The purpose of me saying "KNOW" in all caps was to grab your attention, so there's no excuse to mistake that for me saying I was convinced > knowing you read the scum's role. Another interesting bit:
See above. Also, see Purple's response.Kise wrote:You didn't come swinging out of the woodworks until I specifically mentioned AIM. If you claim that you knew nothing about the game at all, then should it have mattered HOW I knew? You should have been going ape shit the moment I said something about your knowledge with this setup, but there wasn't even a follow up or curiosity from you as to where I was drawing my accusations from.
Be my guest, since you've been completely useless the entire game.vezokpiraka wrote:Do I have to read anything in the last pages?
I just see Kise and Reck fighting and Reck being right.
Can we actually do stuff instead of being stupid and accusing each other of lies?
A-ha… but Nero Cain also denies having a conversation with Kise about the setup ever, and we haven't heard from dramonic on the issue yet… but Kise himself said that the only people he ever talks to from mafiascum are me, dram, and Nero. If the three of us deny ever having had that conversation, then that means KISE DID NOT HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.Mariyta wrote:I think Reck needs some more lovin or something. He's way too stressed.
I'm not sure I believe Kise blatantly lied. I've I had conversations with someone and thought it was with someone else.
1. There was no way for him to know that I would be allowed to post my entire AIM logs with him in order to clear myself.Umbrage wrote:1. I don't see scum making up a fake AIM conversation to enhance their case. Kise didn't even leave himself the back door of 'well it could've been some other guy', he said he only chats with three people.
2. Nero Cain is Reck's lover, and one of the people Kise said he could've chatted with. With a QT, it would be pretty easy for the two of them to play on a mistake made by Kise.
3. The way I see it, if Kise flips town, it doesn't really mean Reck is scum, and he could talk his way out of a lynch. But if Reck is town, Kise is almost definitely scum.
Ah yes. Another one who won't be missed.Umbrage wrote:Finally, I feel the same way as Haylen regarding Reck's play in this game. If she replaces out due to him, I will as well.
Only because you asked.dramonic wrote:@Reck: Baby, calm the fuck down please.
Haylen wrote:May I ask how the AIM chats are even relevant?
Man, you're really not paying attention, are you?Umbrage wrote:I don't think anyone remembers anymore.
SNIPED BY NERO: Interesting catch on Umbrage. I want to see what Kise has to say about your response to him.Espeonage wrote:Because it apparently incriminates Kise under LaL.
Tragedy wrote:@Reckon: Why post chat logs when they have no meaning...Do they? (Oops, Haylen got's this!)
Let me put it this way: the mod contacted me in private and said the only thing he really had a problem with was the personal attacks on Haylen. All the cursing/over the top-ness besides that he was a-okay with… so how about you shut the fuck up and stop crying over my playstyle.EmpTyger wrote:Let me put it this way: the mod himself has told you that your reactions are inappropriate. That ought to be a big clue.
And what is his gambit, exactly?vezokpiraka wrote:I still think Kise is gambiting scum.
Hey, so was I, and I was still participating.Umbrage wrote:I. WAS. IN. BED. WITH. A. FEVER. OVER. A. HUNDRED. DEGREES.
No… no, it doesn't. And even if it did have to be one of us, your reasons for voting me over Kise are, quite frankly, bullshit. So you're either really bad at being town or really bad at being mafia, I just can't figure out which.Umbrage wrote:I've given my reasons for believing Kise over Reck. I suppose I would switch to Kise if need be, it's got to be one of them after all, but I still think a Reck lynch is better.
I could dig it. OMGUS, of course.GreyICE wrote:I am feeling reasonably certain I located scum here.
Remove dramonic & werewolf from that list. Dram is actually playing pretty damn pro-town compared to his usual D1 meta, and werewolf is just fucking awful at this game, so ignore him. Also, I can read dram better than anyone else on this site, and my dram-dar is telling me he's town.Thingy wrote:Scum
Baby Spice & Kcdaspot
Dramonic & werewolf555
Llamarble & DarlaBlueEyes
Goodposting. Basically summarized everything I'm trying to say in a much clearer manner. I think I'll follow my lover's lead here andq21 wrote:Unvote, Vote Reck
Please tell me your vote on me is not based on the fact that my AIM client has a delete button and I could have possibly, potentially deleted that conversation. There is no evidence for that. Please, give me some real reasons here. This doesn't qualify:
How about how sure I was that the conversation never happened?q21 wrote:Given how sure Kise was, how foolish he would have been to invent such a conversation as scum, and how he cut down his retreat by himself I believe kise here.
How about the fact that Kise has now changed his opinion from "it was with Reck" to "it was withsomeone"?
How about the fact that I even said I was willing to give Kise the benefit of the doubt? In retrospect now, that whole exchange screams town on town.
Nero Cain wrote:Since I know that me and Reck are town and I don't necessarily believe that Kise is lying as in in perhaps had this conversation not on aim and not with me and Reck then the whole "ONE OF THEM HAS TO BE LYING!!!!" is potentially setting up 2 mislynches.
Q21 makes my head hurt. Most programs have a delete button. Just 'cause its there doesn't mean he deleted anything.
This is completely ridiculous. You are REFUSING to admit that Kise COULD HAVE JUST BEEN FUCKING MISTAKEN. No... instead, it makes MUCH MORE SENSE to you that I would go through the trouble of saying that we didn't have that conversation, delete it from my logs, contact the mod in order to get the okay to post a screenshot, post the entirety of my logs in text form, and do everything that I've done so far just to get Kise mislynched.q21 wrote:1. As initiator of the conflict I'm more willing to take Kise sureness over yours.
2. Because being ranted at and having falseproof waved in your face will do that to you. Same way innocent people will confess under torture.
3. You realised you weren't getting the easy mislynch you wanted.
I'm going to have to use the "Are you fucking stupid?" face again.Kcdaspot wrote:For the record: Kise is accusing you of admitting you are scum over a IM? or the other way around?
You think I'm the one stating that a conversation took place? No, holy shit, can you fucking read!? The ENTIRE debacle is because KISE said that we had a conversation, and I was the one saying we never did.Kcdaspot wrote:In short you over-pursued something that is a trifle. If the convo you say took place, took place it would mean Kise's possible ejection from the game.