Mini 455 - Mafia in Theoville - Game Over who won?

[Nanosauromo]

Vote: Nanookthewolf

for having his name begin with the same 4 letters as mine.

[Nanosauromo]

Hmm, Nanook changes his vote to match Gaurdian's "logic," or lack thereof. Seems a bit scummy.

My vote stands.

[Nanosauromo]

Especially without Streeflo acting scum-like at all.

(sorry for forgetting to inclued that in my above post)

[Nanosauromo]

YogurtBandit, by yours, do you mean ChaosOmega's? Or do you mean Ertomachia's vote on ChaosOmega?

Nanook, the logic "if you are random voting, then say so" can most definitely be applied to Streeflo, but I did mean for it to apply to ChaosOmega's posts at the time.

Unvote: Streeflo, Vote: Guardian

... Better?

Seems like you're getting a bit desperate.

I dunno about the rest of you, but so far Nanook seems like the scummiest player in the game.

[Nanosauromo]

I've been confused as to where this whole "cop roleclaim" thing came from, so I read back through the thread and found this, the post where it all began?

C

oultn't sleep at all, so I thought I'd post.

O

ften, ChaosOmega, new scum will just vote without saying anything, like you did.

P

eople might get suspicious of you for that (I am a wee bit); I think it's better to just say that your vote is random in the future so people don't have a reason to jump on. My 1/50 of a dollar .

Originally, I thought to myself that Guardian was completely foolish for doing such a thing on the first page of this game .. I don't know why people think it's a great Idea to claim something so early on, especially the supposed 'cop'.

Excuse me, but, WTF? It seems like Nanook is reading into things a bit

too

much. I still think Nanook and Gaurdian are both mafia. Nanook's "ousting" of Gaurdian as an important pro-town role (to help ensure his survival) ties into their voting together. Nanook's looking scummer by the minute. (Or hour, whatever.)

[Nanosauromo]

I'm going with D in Adel's poll.

My vote's still on Nanook, for the record.

[Nanosauromo]

Do something scummy or I will be forced to think you are scum.

Okay, that just doesn't sound right. You're asking someone to act like scum. If they oblige, you will have the perfect opportunity to pounce on them and declare them scum. No matter what he does, YL is losing. Adel's atop my "scummiest" list now, with Nanook coming in at a close second.

Unvote: Nanookthewolf
Vote: Adel

Sorry about not posting often. I check the thread constantly, but most of the time have nothing significant to contribute.

[Nanosauromo]

12 pages in 7 days so far... will we need more than 24 pages to lynch someone? It is just a mini.

Could the rest of the town please vote? If someone gets to -3 or -2 to lynch, then don't, but we can at least use our votes to pressure some content out of those we consider may be scum.

Seems like Adel is rushing to end the day.

[Nanosauromo]

EBWODP: Arg, bloody quote tags!

then pops in to change his vote, with virtually no input.

Okay, I'll explain my actions then.

In the beginning, Nanookthewolf simply seemed scummy because he voted along with Gaurdian, following Gaurdian's "logic" but not explaining what this "logic" was. For a while, he seemed like the scummiest guy around, and thus I kept my vote on him.

But then Adel came along. His catch-22 of "Do something scummy or I will be forced to think you are scum." tipped off my scum detector. He now seemed more scummy than Nanook. He was now my prime candidate for a lynch. His pressuring of people to vote quickly reinforced my belief.

With that said, Theo, can we get a vote count?

yeh sure, give me ten mins. I deleted your previous duplicated post

[Nanosauromo]

Gaurdian's leaning towards scum, due to the scummy Nanook following his lead. I'm not familiar with breadcrumbing, but it seems like he started doing it way too early.

As for Yogurt (one of my favorite words, BTW), I haven't formed a clear opinion on him yet.

[Nanosauromo]

New tactic:

Do not lynch until there are

two

probable candidates, each with about enough support to lynch. This will force players to take a pretty serious position on two players, which will be good information regardless of the results of investigations and the eventual lynch

Debating the merits of the cases against two good candidates will generate lots of information for later analysis, and act as a quality assurance check. Support of this tactic will require a deadline extension.

Mod: respectfully request deadline extension

I think we have more than two candidates already. Or are you just trying to buy time for yourself?

[Nanosauromo]

What is you case Nanosauromo?

I understand the case against me.

Why ask if you already understand it?

[Nanosauromo]

EBWODP: Arg, bloody quote tags!

then pops in to change his vote, with virtually no input.

Okay, I'll explain my actions then.

In the beginning, Nanookthewolf simply seemed scummy because he voted along with Gaurdian, following Gaurdian's "logic" but not explaining what this "logic" was. For a while, he seemed like the scummiest guy around, and thus I kept my vote on him.

But then Adel came along. His catch-22 of

"Do something scummy or I will be forced to think you are scum."

tipped off my scum detector. He now seemed more scummy than Nanook. He was now my prime candidate for a lynch. His pressuring of people to vote quickly reinforced my belief.

With that said, Theo, can we get a vote count?

yeh sure, give me ten mins. I deleted your previous duplicated post

I'm going to do something with my vote which I thought I already had, but for whatever reason the post isn't there .. hmm.

Vote: Nanosauromo

I'm voting for you based on your reasoning placed against Adel. I find it hard to believe that for as long as you've been pressing for a lynch against myself and how you've felt about Guardian that the above underlined quote from Adel made you change your mind so easily. I don't want to have your vote placed back onto me obviously, but how could something that I would normally take as a light matter, seem to so easily change your mind on who you find most likely scum?

I just think that you believe that Adel would be an easier lynch, hence why you changed your strategy is all.

I kept my vote on you because nobody was acting particularly scummy; you were simply the least non-scummy player (If that makes any sense). There was no-one to change to, so I kept it on you. By the time Adel's scumminess was accumulating, any negative opinions I had about you had mostly withered away. Thus, the change.

[Nanosauromo]

How the guy (NanoS), can change within a day like that is still baffling to me. Also, explain the not scummy portion of your post regarding me pls Nano.

You've not done anything really scummy except in the beginning of the game. ("Following Gaurdian's logic" when there was no real logic to be found.)

[Nanosauromo]

The reason I haven't been posting much is because I HAVEN'T NOTICED ANYTHING WORTH POSTING ABOUT. I have nearly nothing to go on. If there's nothing for me to analyze, then I can't analyze anything.

What do you want from me?

[Nanosauromo]

So you change your vote from CO to me, then

in the same post

declare you want answers and explanations from CO and BM, without any mention of me?

[Nanosauromo]

Okay, time for the list of scummy Adel quotes:

Here is another crazy idea I just thought of: In addition to or regular vote in the regular format we also post

VigKill: Player ZZZZZ

and

un:Vigkill

. Based on the games I've read, 50-75% of these games have a vig, but they usually don't do much good, killing townies or not killing at all.

This just provides more information for the scum, while distracting people from discussion of the lynch.

YagamiLight gets another special notice for being almost perfectly non-scummy, which I am beginning to think is a scum tell. Do something scummy or I will be forced to think you are scum.

See the too townie Fallacy / Catch-22.

12 pages in 7 days so far... will we need more than 24 pages to lynch someone? It is just a mini.

Could the rest of the town please vote? If someone gets to -3 or -2 to lynch, then don't, but we can at least use our votes to pressure some content out of those we consider may be scum.

Rushing the town to vote is bad.

Do not lynch until there are

two

probable candidates, each with about enough support to lynch. This will force players to take a pretty serious position on two players, which will be good information regardless of the results of investigations and the eventual lynch.

Yet you've already listed several scumm candidates, including Nanook, ChaosOmega, YL, and myself.

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That just about sums it up.

[Nanosauromo]

This was a little tounge-in-cheek, and a little zen, and widely misunderstood. I would expect the superior scum player to maintain a low profile and drop zero or nearly zero scum tells through careful and conservative posting. YL fits that profile. I get the wiki article, and I could deconstruct it as being the work of two specific players who can be called out by that argument, but I do not know for sure that is true. Be weary of the wiki, it is not the Bible, and anything in it can be meta-gamed is people take it too seriously. Be skeptical. I am skeptical of my own judgment, because I am familiar with my capacity to be wrong. In my opinion, YL is the least scummy player, and I have said that in a couple of other posts, both before and after the post in question. Since I see YL as the least scummy, I am weary of YL. That is how my mind works, and I was trying to share what I saw as being a possibly valuable insight. Take it or leave it, but it is not a reason to indite.

That's a WIFOM, am I right?

[Nanosauromo]

I agree with Dogmom and Meme on the BM issue. I will change my vote to him if he fails to respond to them within a reasonable time.

[Nanosauromo]

Er... excuse?

[Nanosauromo]

You haven't "go[ne] away for a matter of months" -- you're all over the site. Quit pretending you don't have time and play this game or get voted for ignoring it, simple as that.

gtfo lol. Im here, but i have RL stuff to deal with atm.
Some people come here every day and post a load of BS, and think that makes them a contributing player.
In fairness, id much rather contribute something useful, even if it means waiting a couple of days.
Oh and while i am here,

Vote: MeMe

there is literally no reason for MeMe-town to take that sort of attitude. Opportunistic scum-MeMe must be here instead.

OMGUS?

[Nanosauromo]

the subsequent attempts to lynch a 'lurker' out of laziness that make me think MeMe is scum.

Do you realize how little sense you're making?

[Nanosauromo]

Any comment I could make on BM's scumminess has already been made. If I restate already-said stuff, you yell at me and call me scum. If I don't post anything, you yell at me and call me scum. No matter what I do, I lose.

[Nanosauromo]

Deadline's nearly here, we should start deciding who we want to lynch. BM anyone?

[Nanosauromo]

NanoS, do you still find Adel scummy?

Yes, but I need to gather more evidence before I can continue my case against her.

If so, why do you think she is pushing for BM votes?

Perhaps she's Mafia and BM is a Serial Killer. (Or vice versa)

[Nanosauromo]

However, NanoS is also looking

very

scummy for:

NanoS, do you still find Adel scummy?

Yes, but I need to gather more evidence before I can continue my case against her.

If so, why do you think she is pushing for BM votes?

Perhaps she's Mafia and BM is a Serial Killer. (Or vice versa)

And what exactly is scummy about that?

[Nanosauromo]

Are you trying the "I'm just a really horrible player" defense?

No, I honestyl don't understand why Gaurdian thinks that quote is scummy.

[Nanosauromo]

NanoS, really, can you not see how that post of yours is suspicious?

No, I can't. What is so suspicious about it?

[Nanosauromo]

We have Adel, who posts a lot of content, and is actually useful to the town. ... so, Vote: Adel

I understand your reasoning, but saying someone is useful to the town is a weird preface to voting for them. As of right now, I think Nanosauromo and Adel are the two scummiest players, for different reasons.

Adel has been posting a lot of things that have sounded suspicious. She's also been posting a lot of things period. Nanosauromo, on the other hand, posts nowhere near as much, and a lot of his latest posts have not been very useful. Look at his last 3 posts:

And what exactly is scummy about that?

No, I honestyl don't understand why Gaurdian thinks that quote is scummy.

No, I can't. What is so suspicious about it?

Are you just faking confusion so you don't have to answer anything? I would much rather lynch scum who don't post much content then scum who post a lot of content. So I'm going to

unvote

, mainly to cause separation and make it less likely for a no-lynch to occur.

Why the hell can't you get that I don't see anything remotely scummy about that post? Maybe if you freaking told me what was scummy about it I'd understand!