Newbie 853 (Endgame, Mafia win!!)

[Sironigous]

Weclcome to Newbie 853!!

Players:

cruelty

DTMaster (SE)

Zorblag (IC)

Far_Cry

Deadline to be updated

Dead players:

brothernature

LolIMadeAnAccount

-

Town Cop

- Lynched Day 1

geekalicious - Town Doctor

- killed night 1

XScorpion

Vendelwalker

- Vanilla Townie

- Lynched Day 2

Lizzy Tsoi

Team Aether

- Vanilla Townie

- killed night 2

AGar

Ezekial

- Mafia Roleblocker

- Lynched Day 3

Concerned - Vanilla Townie

killed night 3

Setting (one of these):
* 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Sane Cop, 1 Doctor, 5 Townies.
* 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 7 Townies.
* 2 Mafia Goons, 1 Sane Cop, 6 Townies.
* 2 Mafia Goons, 1 Doctor, 6 Townies.

Rules:

1) Follow all onsite Mafiascum.net rules.
2) Play to win.
3) Keep all player to player communication within this public thread, unless specified otherwise in your role PM.
4) Keep language to a reasonable level.
5) Do not use the color

blue

.
6) You cannot out your real or fake scum partners in any manner.

Voting and lynching guidelines:

1) Votes should be in format

Vote: Playername

. If I were going to vote for Sironigous, I would write

Vote: Sironigous

.
Note: Should there be a dire voting discrepancy, I will make the final decision based on context and intent
Note: Unvoting is not needed
Note: Votes that abbreviate a player's name will count
2) A lynching will occur when a player's votecount takes a majority. That player will be killed.
3) The town can vote for a no lynch, however the majority must be achieved.

Activity level:

1) Deadlines are exactly 3 weeks from the start of the day.
2) Players are expected to post at least once every 72 hours.
3) Prods will be given on the request of players only – players are only qualified for a prod if they have not posted in the past 72 hours.
4) Players receive a max of 3 prods
5) Players will be replaced if a 4th is needed.
6) Should a player be on leave for over 72 hours, that player may privately message the mod with an expected return date or publicly post the expected return date in the thread.

Day and Night:

1) Discussion may continue during twilight.
Note: Twilight is defined as the time between the immediate time of lynch and the thread lock.
2) During night this thread will be locked. All players who have the ability to night talk may begin.
3) The last action submitted by a player will be deemed as the group's or the player's action.
4) If the deadline is met without a lynch,

No Lynch

will occur.

Modding Commitments

1) I, your mod, will be tallying your vote counts. Each vote count post will contain the deadline date for that day.
2) The front page may be edited periodically to include deaths.
Note: Do not rely on the front page for the most current information
3) My color is

blue

. All posts made by the mod after this post will be in that color.
4) I will try to make at least one vote count for each page.

Confirm in the thread! You should receive your role PM shortly.

hohum is the co-mod for this game.

[Sironigous]

Role PM's (some may or may not be used):


Vanilla

Vanilla Townie
Welcome to Newbie 853!

You, ____, are a Vanilla Townie. You have no special powers: just your vote and your voice.

You win when all mafia members have been eliminated!
You cannot win with the mafia.

Cop

Cop
Welcome to Newbie 853!

You, ____, are the Town Sane Cop! Every night, you may send me the name of any player I will tell you that player's alignment.

You win when all mafia members have been eliminated!
You cannot win with the mafia.

Doctor

Doctor

You, ____, are the Town Doctor! Every night, you may send me the name of any player and that player cannot be killed during the night.

You win when all mafia members have been eliminated!
You cannot win with the mafia.

Note: You cannot protect yourself.

Mafia Goon

Mafia Goon

You, ___, are the Mafia Goon, part of the Mafia faction with your partner ____, whom you know to be a (mafia goon)/(mafia roleblocker)! Every night, you and your partner have the ability to night talk.
Also, you may send me the name of any player and that player will be killed.

You win when the mafia makes up at least half of the game!
You cannot win with the town.

Mafia Roleblocker

Mafia Roleblocker
You, ___, are the Mafia Roleblocker, part of the Mafia faction with your partner ____, whom you know to be a mafia goon! Every night, you may give me the name of one player and that player's night action (if any!) will be nulled. You and your partner have the ability to night talk.

You win when the mafia makes up at least half of the game!
You cannot win with the town.

Note: If your partner dies, you will still be able to night kill and roleblock in the same night.

[geekalicious]

/confirm

[Vendelwalker]

/Confirm!

[Concerned]

/Confirm

[cruelty]

/confirm

[Ezekial]

/Confirm

[LolIMadeAnAccount]

/confirm

[DTMaster]

/confirm.

[Team Aether]

/confirm

[Sironigous]

Start of Day 1

Vote Count

Ezekial
Team Aether
cruelty
Vendelwalker
Concerned
LolIMadeAnAccount
DTMaster
geekalicious
Far_Cry

Not Voting: Ezekial, Team Aether, cruelty, Vendelwalker, Concerned, LolIMadeAnAccount, DTMaster, geekalicious, Far_Cry

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 to lynch!

Deadline: Thursday October 29, 2009.

Note to all: The rules have been slightly updated.

[LolIMadeAnAccount]

Alright, ladies and gents. Let's get this started.

Vote: Team Aether

for having what I believe to having a Pokemon for an avatar.

[cruelty]

vote: lolimade

For having an anime avatar.

[geekalicious]

Alright, I posed this question at the beginning of my last game to good effect in generating discussion, so let's try it here:

@all What's your policy on lynching lurkers?

[cruelty]

For me.


scummy > lurkers.

I'll always vote for someone I think is scummy over someone who isn't posting.


I also don't really like discussion of lurkers, it's a good way for scum to point the finger at people who can't/won't defend themselves

[LolIMadeAnAccount]

Might wanna change the title Siri. It's Day 1, correct? As for lurkers, I'd prefer to try and pressure them into posting if possible, rather than just lynching. Put at L-2 and if they don't post within a reasonable amount of time lynch 'em if there's not a better choice that day. But overall, I agree with cruel. Scummy over lurking.

Done.

[DTMaster]

I have to agree with cruelty here. I have experience where the lurkers both turn out to be scum or townies so I see lurking as just anti-town at the beginning of the game.

That said if someone is actively lurking, that is a different story (he is online posting in the game, but not posting content). If it's lylo it's also frowned upon. In any case the content of the posts are much more telling then anything.

Also to the newbies here the wiki is your best friend when starting out. :3

Vote: lolImadeanaccount

because you loled when you made your account.

[geekalicious]

That said if someone is actively lurking, that is a different story (he is online posting in the game, but not posting content). If it's lylo it's also frowned upon. In any case the content of the posts are much more telling then anything.

Hm, I tend to like to bring up the issue of lurking since in my first game here, the town was in lylo and then the town (which I was apart of) proceeded to lose the game partially because the town players were lurking (in the sense of just not posting, not content lurking) while the scum players were actually more active in talking. So, overall, I find lurking to be hurtful to the town but not necesarilly indicative of who actually is the scum.

[Vendelwalker]

Dammit cruelty, you did the vote I was going to do, and for the exact same reason.

Instead,

vote: DTMaster

for bandwagoning against LolIMadeAnAccount while making it appear as if that is not what he is doing.

[DTMaster]

@geek

Lurking is anti-town motion, I agree. But it's a case by case scenario. A good rule of thumb is to judge people by their content, rather then their post count.

@Vendel
You do realize that lol is 3 votes away from dying? Besides bandwagoning on the first page on day one isn't scummy.

1. It forces a action reaction response on both party members where you can discuss and analyze their posts.

2. If the bandwagon goes to quick lynch then it's obvious that scum played a good part in it and we catch easy scum. No town in their right mind would quick lynch another person like that.

[Sironigous]

Vote Count

Ezekial
Team Aether (1) - LolIMadeAnAccount
cruelty
Vendelwalker
Concerned
LolIMadeAnAccount (2) - cruelty, DTMaster
DTMaster (1) - Vendelwalker
geekalicious
Far_Cry

Not Voting: Ezekial, Team Aether, Concerned, geekalicious, Far_Cry

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 to lynch!

Deadline: Thursday October 29, 2009.

[Concerned]

From what I can gather lurking is most decidedly anti-town but sadly not always indicative of scummy behavior.
Scummy behavior will indeed always take precedent for me in terms of who I vote for.
I realize I've basically just repeated what everyone else has said but, it seems to be the logical conclusion. It seems villagers get replaced for inactivity just as often as scum on this forum.

/VOTE VENDELWALKER
From what I understand, two votes are just as safe as one. Worst case scenario is that two villagers voted for the person and with only two wolves L-5 should be impossible even if the decide to jump on the bandwagon. Your logic is faulty, which although not indicative of scum in a noob game makes me wary.

@DTMaster, In a newb game an experienced player can take advantage of the logic fallacies of the new players, it might make spotting scum easier but it seems the most advantageous when an experienced player is scum. The experienced player could then point out the newb logic, to get the village to vote out an innocent (albeit newb) villager.
What do you think is the best way for us to spot newb logic as opposed to faulty and potentially scummy logic?

[Concerned]

EBWOP

VOTE : VENDELWALKER

Did not bold my vote.

[Vendelwalker]

Let me explain: I know that DTMaster was using a joking reason for voting for LolIMadeAnAccount, but I was thinking of this: it could make other players, who don't want to be voted out, think "Hey great, let's take him, not me." What made me think of this kind of behavior is that I have seen it in real life, so I know people work this way. And I am thinking, this could be in DTMaster's mind also.

All right, I can agree to

weak

logic, but not

faulty

.

[Far_Cry]

/confirm Srry I'm late, I was busy these past few days.

I'm you IC for this game guys. If anyone has any questions, ask me, and I will answer them to the best of my ability.

By the way,

vote geekalicious

. Why bring the idea of lurking in the RVS (Random Voting Stage)?

I'll try my best to post after school; I have to go now.