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Post #58 (isolation #0) » Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:38 am
Postby Black »
Just a heads up, there was a crazy wind storm in my city last night and power is out everywhere. It must have messed with my phone service provider because I can't even connect to 5G at my apartment. There are estimates my power will be out for several days so I'm not really sure what to expect here. Either way I'll catch up when I'm able to get internet at home
In post 58, Black wrote:
Just a heads up, there was a crazy wind storm in my city last night and power is out everywhere. It must have messed with my phone service provider because I can't even connect to 5G at my apartment. There are estimates my power will be out for several days so I'm not really sure what to expect here. Either way I'll catch up when I'm able to get internet at home
Jeez, hope you're okay Black!
Merlyn goes in my locktown bin because she's the only person that cares about me
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Post #121 (isolation #4) » Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:50 am
Postby Black »
In post 120, osuka wrote:
in the future please refrain from asking bad questions for the sake of asking them, especially when the answer is already obvious to anyone paying a sliver of attention
bro wtf lol. People are going to ask bad questions. That's part of the game you're just gonna have to live with
In post 27, Merlyn wrote:
I recognize everyone but Meuh and Cook
VOTE: Meuh no one recognizes them, must mean something
This isn't a big deal but for some reason I can't express it seemed more "forced" than the other random votes, and also a bit like picking on the player you perceived as least experienced.
Really dumb reason for a vote and looks like going through the motions of voting for things you think you ought to find suspect instead of things that actually are.
These reasons feel super forced but I don't really think it's necessarily in a scummy way
In post 27, Merlyn wrote:
I recognize everyone but Meuh and Cook
VOTE: Meuh no one recognizes them, must mean something
This isn't a big deal but for some reason I can't express it seemed more "forced" than the other random votes, and also a bit like picking on the player you perceived as least experienced.
Really dumb reason for a vote and looks like going through the motions of voting for things you think you ought to find suspect instead of things that actually are.
Yooooooooooo the mindmeld is crazy, Umlaut town
This mindmeld feels weird. A forced RVS vote and both missing the joke in 83. Could be a pocketing attempt from Meuh
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Post #359 (isolation #22) » Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:45 am
Postby Black »
In post 354, osuka wrote:
“incredibly contrived” just about describes doc’s play style. he’ll get deep down into some fucking rabbit hole about how everything is connected and this one specific choice of word is what neatly ties everything together, except it’s not neat, the ties are about to come loose, and half of “everything” was somewhere else to begin with.
but here’s the kicker: it usually makes logical sense for the most part, and he’s right a surprising fraction of the time when you consider just the caliber of the theories coming your way. you’d almost never expect that sort of theory to be right, but he nails it on the head more often than he should be able to
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Post #372 (isolation #25) » Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:17 am
Postby Black »
I'll hop on this wagon. I got the chance to look over towwl's posts and I'm getting a similar vibe from him here that I got in our recent newbie game together. I think Drew can probably be town for now
what should i know about the state of the game as it is right now
People are complaining about mech talk when there is no mech talk. I brought up the possibility that scum was signaling each other and the pushback is that while what I think ausuka did has scum value and ausuka has stated she doesn’t think town would punish her for doing the thing with scum value, it is unreasonable for me to think ausuka would do the valuable thing that shouldn’t be punished as scum.
i should clarify; what im talking about isnt really mechtalk, its what typically takes mechtalk's place in a not-especially-mechanically-heavy setup, and thats very subjective theorycrafting discussed in a very objective sense about what to expect from each alignment in a given setup. its almost always distracting, annoying, self-indulgent at best and scum-motivated at worst. this kind of d1 discussion typically starts with scum in my experience and usually succeeds in distracting town discussions from real scumhunting.
I can see where you're coming from. Python did it in Fire & Ice and he was scum. I don't really think this is normally the case though but I could be wrong. I just feel like people that enjoy mech like talking about mech regardless of alignment
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Post #440 (isolation #32) » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:36 am
Postby Black »
I agree with RR in 426 and I think they are right when it comes to scum benefiting from all of the signals being pointed out. These two seem on a course to 1v1 by just not agreeing here but I feel like it's t/t atm
I'm sensing some frustration in Bingle's time but I like the way he's pushing Ausuka while also defending his position. The frustration feels like it might come from having a big wagon formed on him already and I think that town is more likely to let this frustration show
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Post #442 (isolation #34) » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:38 am
Postby Black »
In post 435, Meuh wrote:
Also does anyone know how to read Black? Cause I don't
I'm an enigma
In post 436, Meuh wrote:
I feel like discussing signaling in of itself makes signaling easier for scum so while it's something to look out for, I'm not sure having long discussions on that topic is really helpful (especially since we could just like, scumhunt instead which is better anyways!)
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Post #443 (isolation #35) » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:44 am
Postby Black »
VOTE: Ausuka
I want to help Bingle's cause here. I don't really think she was signaling tbh, and my first impression from Ausuka's posts was that she felt confident in what she was saying. Initially I liked this but after reading over her ISO the confidence reads little scummy to me. Part of this has to do with me personally being more confident when I'm scum, and I know I can't really accurately apply that to other people but I want to push this gut feeling and this wagon anyway
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Post #448 (isolation #37) » Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:55 am
Postby Black »
I think scum want to publicly town hunt this game. Like moreso than usual because I feel like the scum teams probably want to coordinate with each other as far as knocking off townies. The problem is townies are going to do this too because it's what townies do. So it might be hard to pinpoint where the noise is coming from but I think we can at least feel good about scum helping town sort
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Post #500 (isolation #39) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:52 am
Postby Black »
In post 486, osuka wrote:
holy shit either my brain is fried and i desperately need sleep, or half of you can't put together a sentence to save your fucking lives, huh? this entire thread hurts to read
In post 487, osuka wrote:
this is the first post in the thread that actually makes any sort of sense and it's well-written enough that i understood all of it on the first try. great jorb!
I want to help Bingle's cause here. I don't really think she was signaling tbh, and my first impression from Ausuka's posts was that she felt confident in what she was saying. Initially I liked this but after reading over her ISO the confidence reads little scummy to me. Part of this has to do with me personally being more confident when I'm scum, and I know I can't really accurately apply that to other people but I want to push this gut feeling and this wagon anyway
Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town -> Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town -> Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town -> Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town -> Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town -> Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town ->
In post 493, Meuh wrote:
At least one scum on Ausuka, scum loveeeeee jumping on the classic day 1 Ausuka wagon (which I would know because I have)
This is my first game with Ausuka but this kinda feels like an exaggeration? Like I am sure she has flipped scum before. Where does that fit into this?
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Post #519 (isolation #42) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:18 am
Postby Black »
In post 511, Radical Rat wrote:
Isn't this a bit contradictory? If both scumteams are sharing genuine townreads, they're just making the PoE worse for them aren't they?
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Post #521 (isolation #44) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:20 am
Postby Black »
In post 514, Meuh wrote:
Played with her twice, she was town both times and this happened in both games, sure she could still be theoretically scum but it's enough to find the Ausuka wagon bad
So this only happened twice? Ok so it is an exaggeration
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Post #528 (isolation #47) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:28 am
Postby Black »
It makes sense for you not to remember but Meuh coming in with "yeah what" implies she doesn't remember either and I'm not sure why she would expect to remember something like that? It just reads as defensive
In post 512, Meuh wrote:
I think the reasoning itself is fine but the bolded bit seems like it's overjustifying which I don't love
The bolded part is basically the only reason I'm voting for her lol. It's all gut
"X is scum because they're confident and I also am when scum" is fine enough reasoning, it's the wishy washyness around it and the lack of conviction being made as clear as possible
I don't have much conviction in that read and I don't think that's scummy tbh
In post 528, Black wrote:
It makes sense for you not to remember but Meuh coming in with "yeah what" implies she doesn't remember either and I'm not sure why she would expect to remember something like that? It just reads as defensive
I was also in that game, and luckily enough I was ISOing Ausuka there when making the cyclical post to make sure I hadn't imagined Ausuka's 1v1 tendency and Ausuka's spiciest early 1v1 in that game was with... Skygazer, which doesn't really click with the idea of Skygazer WKing her
How did you know what game Skygazer was referring to?
I don't think acting confident is a good reason to vote someone. Though thinking about it now I probably would've been fine if you had just said it was a gutread lol. Also I don't think 448 is fluff anymore cuz Bellaphant's explanation made sense. So like whatever
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Post #581 (isolation #54) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 2:38 am
Postby Black »
In post 578, Merlyn wrote:
Meuh, why would you infer that Sky is referring to the game you three were in together if she wasn't white knighting her in that game?
