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In post 83, Hero at Heart wrote:
second, do u have a problem with me being confident about my reads and feeling like we're awesome enough to win before page 10?
I said it was LAMIST because it feels like the kind of lamist mafia like to say in this format of games. you reframing it to "oh are you saying we're not awesome enough to win before page 10" is kind of ????
Personally I've never won coalition on page 10 and if you're town and you actually get us an early win I would be quite happy about that .
agree I don't know what you expected to get out of that question
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Post #102 (isolation #5) » Tue Sep 26, 2023 7:14 am
Postby Merlyn »
I dunno, some of that is a reach.
I don't ness. think Hero is scum for giving the reasons but I don't agree with them
pedit: Bella, for example: you think someone was gonna use try and use a joke about flying in from the scumthread to try and prove later he had a scumread on implosion?
I don't ness. think Hero is scum for giving the reasons but I don't agree with them
pedit: Bella, for example: you think someone was gonna use try and use a joke about flying in from the scumthread to try and prove later he had a scumread on implosion?
@mer, can you expand/reword this? I feel like the question is wieirdly specific when I've been talking about 'vibes' but maybe you can re frame?
yeah, I was responding to the post you made were you said you agreed with most or all of what Hero said. It surprised me that you said that bc I had just been writing a post about how some of the reasons were weaksauce. I was using the joke one as an example to ask you if you really meant it when you said you agreed with it all
I don't ness. think Hero is scum for giving the reasons but I don't agree with them
pedit: Bella, for example: you think someone was gonna use try and use a joke about flying in from the scumthread to try and prove later he had a scumread on implosion?
@mer, can you expand/reword this? I feel like the question is wieirdly specific when I've been talking about 'vibes' but maybe you can re frame?
yeah, I was responding to the post you made were you said you agreed with most or all of what Hero said. It surprised me that you said that bc I had just been writing a post about how some of the reasons were weaksauce. I was using the joke one as an example to ask you if you really meant it when you said you agreed with it all
I meant mainly the two posts about Ari and TSH? What I was also intending to get across was I originally thought hero's push on tsh was more weaksauce, but is liked what they were saying about the 'feel' of the posts. I also particularly agreed with what hero said about the coalition and their reads in that specific order bc it parelled mine for similar reasons.
Ah, okay, I see where you were coming from with that
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Post #160 (isolation #11) » Tue Sep 26, 2023 2:21 pm
Postby Merlyn »
In post 146, implosion wrote:
But I think it is +town just for the brazenness of a seemingly relatively new player being like "nah i'm really not playing how scum would be playing in this setup lol" in this way.
I want to lean town on THS bc I don't agree with most of the case that Hero laid out. But I think it's dangerous to paint THS with the 'new scum would never do X' brush bc I just came off of two games where he fooled me and just about everyone else as the most towny scum I've seen in a while. I don't know if he's played somewhere else before and I haven't asked but he's very good.
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Post #189 (isolation #12) » Wed Sep 27, 2023 4:10 am
Postby Merlyn »
In post 188, TheHoldSteady wrote:
I almost expect more from Merlyn if she's scum. I'm recalling someone said somewhere that she has a pretty strong scum game. If you want to be in the coalition you have to be proactive and I'm just seeing a totally different approach from her.
This is gonna look like I just said this bc you gave me an opening, but I'm posting here before I go back and respond to stuff bc I've been thinking about this game and I feel like there's a sense of urgency that I find strange. Like, there's this push to solve by pg 10, it's scummy that I don't have a set of reads by pg 6 (by page 6!?), there's a request to have a set of coalition choices by Friday...I don't get it. The game opened less than 2 days ago. There's 14 days from the time I'm posting now before day ends. Two freaking weeks left! When I signed up for this game and saw there was a 16 day D1, I planned to take my time figuring things out. And I'm going to stick to that if I can.
One of the things I'll be considering is whether I think this rush is scum-driven or just overzealous town (or both). My gut reaction is to say yes. But it's probably not enough to accurately read someone, so it's just something I'll take into account along with all of the rest of the stuff that gets said.
In post 146, implosion wrote:
But I think it is +town just for the brazenness of a seemingly relatively new player being like "nah i'm really not playing how scum would be playing in this setup lol" in this way.
I want to lean town on THS bc I don't agree with most of the case that Hero laid out. But I think it's dangerous to paint THS with the 'new scum would never do X' brush bc I just came off of two games where he fooled me and just about everyone else as the most towny scum I've seen in a while. I don't know if he's played somewhere else before and I haven't asked but he's very good.
In post 161, implosion wrote:
I don't even feel like that's a play that "good" scum is likely to make. It's the kind of thing that probably a lot of good scum would avoid because it's practically likely to be scumread by a good swathe of people.
In post 161, implosion wrote:
I don't even feel like that's a play that "good" scum is likely to make. It's the kind of thing that probably a lot of good scum would avoid because it's practically likely to be scumread by a good swathe of people.
Are you making the mistake of assuming how a player, especially one that you are not familiar with, would play under a certain alignment?
Especially when there is another player, Merlyn in this case, has first hand experience with THS as scum......and you are seemingly poo poo-ing their read?
In post 161, implosion wrote:
I don't even feel like that's a play that "good" scum is likely to make. It's the kind of thing that probably a lot of good scum would avoid because it's practically likely to be scumread by a good swathe of people.
Are you making the mistake of assuming how a player, especially one that you are not familiar with, would play under a certain alignment?
Especially when there is another player, Merlyn in this case, has first hand experience with THS as scum......and you are seemingly poo poo-ing their read?
this is just a weird take. 1, mafia is a game that is fundamentally built on a pile of assumptions. 2, I don't need to defer to someone else's read just because they've played with the person before. And most importantly 3, no, that's not what I'm doing at all, I'm making a reasoned counterargument to Merlyn's reasoning; she said that THS is a good scum player so we shouldn't townread him too easily and I gave the counterargument that my reason for townreading him should still apply even if he's a good scum player. It's also kind of heinous in isolation to say i'm "poo poo-ing" Merlyn's read just because I'm disagreeing with it and she's played with him before. Like, heck, i'm not allowed to disagree with someone???
This is bullshit.
You are doing mental gymnastics to town read THS, Merlyn just said 'Hey, I have seen them in the wild, they don't fuck around as scum'.
And you said nope, you aren't listening to actual first hand meta, and like I said assigning how you would play to another person.
I don't even think you are scum, just doing what I see too often from town who doesn't observe enough.
In post 151, implosion wrote:
It feels overexplainy in the way of scum who feels the need to appear justified rather than town who actually has reasons behind what they're doing
good point - i felt hesitant to tr that post but didn't know why. this point is actually very subtly scummy.
hard leaning town on implo atp, slight scumread on drew.
In post 157, Merlyn wrote:
I don't have any real reads yet, I'm not sure why. Even the folx I have some town leans on are so tentative I don't really know if they're townleans.
could you tell us your townleans even if they're weak?
In post 142, TheHoldSteady wrote:
We've still got time but let's get some organization to our approach. I'd like to challenge everyone, by Friday, to come up with 2-3 people you absolutely want in your coalition, and 2-3 people you don't.
this posts feels really off, but not even in a scummy way. it feels like THS has to have zero gamestate awarenessbto make this post when multiple other people have already expressed their preferred coalition and he hasn't.
i doubt this is scum indicative, but i am noting it bc it's weird and i would like to have people's thoughts on this, if they have any thoughts.
I think it's a rush and I don't like the rush. I'm keeping an eye on everyone who seems to be wanting to rush through D1 rn (but that also includes you lol)
In post 61, Datisi wrote:
actually like, idk how much exp you have with mala, i don't have that much, but she doesn't strike me as a sort of thinking 5 steps ahead scum player (no offense) that you're making her out to be there, do you think it's like, likely that scum-mala would've been thinking so much about something like that on page 2?
Hear me out.
Reading that post again by Dats, doesn't it read as he knows you are town?
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Post #196 (isolation #17) » Wed Sep 27, 2023 4:23 am
Postby Merlyn »
Hero- I'm sure I saw you ask me how much exp I have being scum but I can't find the post. I'm pretty new and all my games (excluding some real life one night werewolf which does not help here in form mafia land) are here. I feel like I roll scum a lot actually, but I haven't gone back and counted how many town games to scum games.
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Post #201 (isolation #18) » Wed Sep 27, 2023 4:27 am
Postby Merlyn »
In post 192, implosion wrote:
i'm just going to disengage from the line with Drew. although maybe i won't completely since hero says they want to see how it develops lol but I feel like it's almost certainly one of those things that is practically not going to be actually useful for sorting compared to how much it'd bog down the thread. I think it's probably very likely that Drew and I just sort of parse arguments in incompatible ways.
I like that you said this, I feel like when I see someone stop a 1v1 they tend to be town, I don't think scum has a lot of incentive to stop a spat
In post 189, Merlyn wrote:
it's scummy that I don't have a set of reads by pg 6 (by page 6!?),
I don't think this is a fair characterization. It's not that you "don't have a set of reads", it's that you hadn't given any at all, in conjunction with you saying that you'd already been townspewing which, no, does not mean "posting literally anything as town".
I do agree there isn't much of a real rush. But I feel like there's been lots of quite useful content so far. I don't really agree with THS's take that scum are necessarily proactive in this setup; yeah, they need to get in the coalition, and actually the point could have some truth to it if people are playing in such a way that the scum
feel
rushed. But I think it's entirely possible for scum to play under the radar, especially if they think their scumbuddy is going to get in to the coalition.
I was kind of going for humor there when I said bc I thought it was a question that deserved a flippant answer. Like, it's not a serious thing to ask a bunch of folks to townspew like it's something someone can come in on the next post and go, "oh! Got it, here's my townspewing".
I'm going to get really nitpicky on this idea that it's scummy that I hadn't given any reads. I posted as soon as I saw the game was open. When you posted 156, I had been playing in the game for 29 hours. I also slept and went to work twice in those 29 hours. So, was it really dubious that I hadn't formed or posted any reads yet? Am I really the first player you've met who decided to take more than 29 hours to figure out what they think? Or am I right to think it's odd that it's even being remarked upon?
In post 202, Merlyn wrote:
I'm going to get really nitpicky on this idea that it's scummy that I hadn't given any reads. I posted as soon as I saw the game was open. When you posted 156, I had been playing in the game for 29 hours. I also slept and went to work twice in those 29 hours. So, was it really dubious that I hadn't formed or posted any reads yet? Am I really the first player you've met who decided to take more than 29 hours to figure out what they think? Or am I right to think it's odd that it's even being remarked upon?
i don't really like this, it feels like an oversimplification. i don't want to speak for implo here and obv he can correct me if i'm wrong, but his 156 made me realise that merlyn's posts are mostly like, fluffposts. like, it's obvious she was reading the game because she was responding to things about the game, so she did put some thought into it, but there was no Actually Alignment Comments in those posts. and scum is more likely to go into that mode of responding to things and asking questions, but not actually solving, because you know they can't solve.
so it's like, it's not the issue that she didn't have reads, hell my reads are probably utter ass currently, but that she wasn't really working towards getting them?
I have this memory of you pushing me as scum in a game I repped out of and I think you were a lot meaner than this, so I like this post for town.
I think you're just describing a playstyle difference, I could have come out of the game with reads that I didn't really have confidence in too, but I don't feel like I had to, I maintain it's fine to wait a couple of pages and days to figure things out, especially in a game with a long D1.
I definitely know how to fake a read as scum btw lol. If you someday catch me as scum in another game it won't be because I didn't know how to put any fake reads out there. And I ask questions to figure out how to solve.
In post 243, Doctor Drew wrote:
But her not liking her coalition group is just bizarre. I don't know what to make of it tbh. Unless it is a bit of TMI, like she knows one of her buddies is in it.
well I don't particularly think anyone really cares about what I want the coalition to be so I don't particularly care about trying to force my opinions through.
well datisi doesn't townread mala so he doesn't want her in the coalition
I don't townread you or datisi but if datisi is town then he's probly right about you being town
and if the coalition fails I'll know who I want to vote
I do agree that numbers wise it just makes sense to put yourself forward for the coalition bc if you know you're town then you can only be wrong about 4 spots rather than 5. The only person who can really relax and not need to advocate for themselves here is a wolf who is pushing a partner in there. There's no point in being worried that it will make you a target later if the coalition fails, you're getting heat now anyway.
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Post #277 (isolation #24) » Thu Sep 28, 2023 3:36 pm
Postby Merlyn »
Ari- don't love the latest posts, already explained why
Bella- vibing a lil town to me
Datisi- leaning town because I remember him being cutthroat as scum, I also kind of like he went against the sudden wave of people tr'ing me bc as scum it would be easier to just go along with it and not make waves.
Drew- I just kind of want Drew to be town bc it's so rare we don't instantly scumread each other. My single experience with Drew as scum was as a partner and I do think he sheeps more as scum. Maybe I'll just go with it and hope I'm not in the Whiskey Pocket.
Hero- oh idk. I have to think about it.
Implo- I think they're probably town, I like their posts more than I dislike
mala- a bitty townvibe
THS- so far this the play is not out of his scumrange at all, time will tell ig
HEAL: Merlyn, Datisi, Drew, Implo gotta think more on how to pick a fifth
In post 274, Merlyn wrote:
I do agree that numbers wise it just makes sense to put yourself forward for the coalition bc if you know you're town then you can only be wrong about 4 spots rather than 5. The only person who can really relax and not need to advocate for themselves here is a wolf who is pushing a partner in there. There's no point in being worried that it will make you a target later if the coalition fails, you're getting heat now anyway.
I personally do not enjoy being in the coalition unless I'm absolutely certain my coalition is winning.
I am nowhere near that level of certainty at present and might never be.
Saying that I am mafia for not wanting to be in the coalition because all townies would want to be in the coalition and ascribing the only possible reason for someone not wanting to be in the coalition as "they are mafia who are pushing their partner in instead" is reductionist and absurd.
Good think I didn't say that the was the only possible reason huh? I was pointing out that there's a good reason why folx would suspect you for not putting yourself in. You seemed to be saying the main reason you didn't is bc you'd get heat if it failed, and I was pointing out that you're already getting heat. This post kind of feels like an overreaction.
I appreciate the links, I'll read them if I have time
implication in 274 is that the only reason I have for not advocating for myself is that I am a wolf who is trying to push my partner into the coalition.
when I explain I do this in previous runs of the game as town and say this is not a reasonable conjecture -
you claim you didn't really even say it
.
you just feel slimy here to me.
I don't want to get hung up here on semantics, but the implication isn't that it's the ONLY reason. I agree that town could do it. I wanted to see if you had considered this one, particular reason that it might be good to be in the coalition. I wanted to hear your response once I'd shared it.
I was saying that I didn't say it was the ONLY reason, as a response to this particular thing you said:
In post 276, Aristeia wrote:
and ascribing the only possible reason for someone not wanting to be in the coalition as "they are mafia who are pushing their partner in instead" is reductionist and absurd.
Because I found what you said here to be extreme and untrue.
You can throw insults if you want- and I do find being called slimy to be an insult and really ought to be against the rules- but it's just a game and I'm just trying to sort you because that's what I'm supposed to do in the game. There's no reason to get this mad over a scumread.
In post 274, Merlyn wrote:
I do agree that numbers wise it just makes sense to put yourself forward for the coalition bc if you know you're town then you can only be wrong about 4 spots rather than 5. The only person who can really relax and not need to advocate for themselves here is a wolf who is pushing a partner in there. There's no point in being worried that it will make you a target later if the coalition fails, you're getting heat now anyway.
I personally do not enjoy being in the coalition unless I'm absolutely certain my coalition is winning.
I am nowhere near that level of certainty at present and might never be.
Saying that I am mafia for not wanting to be in the coalition because all townies would want to be in the coalition and ascribing the only possible reason for someone not wanting to be in the coalition as "they are mafia who are pushing their partner in instead" is reductionist and absurd.
Good think I didn't say that the was the only possible reason huh? I was pointing out that there's a good reason why folx would suspect you for not putting yourself in. You seemed to be saying the main reason you didn't is bc you'd get heat if it failed, and I was pointing out that you're already getting heat. This post kind of feels like an overreaction.
I appreciate the links, I'll read them if I have time
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Post #390 (isolation #31) » Fri Sep 29, 2023 2:33 pm
Postby Merlyn »
In post 377, Hero at Heart wrote:
you know what? i am done. i am done with this meta discussion, i am done with discussing my tr of datisi, and i am done with this silly 1v1 with ari. it's not fun and it's not helping town win.
so here's what we're going to do instead. i am going to propose a coalition, and ari - please sheep it eliminate me if it fails. you have my solemn promise i won't push you (but i will be looking for scum). here's my coalition: HEAL: ari, datisi, hero, implo, bella
i'd rather tell ari "i told you" in the postgame after we won than continue this stupid, unfun argument. or i guess if she's scum i can tell her "gg wp you tricked us all". but i don't think she's scum.
the above coalition is actually final*.
*barring extreme shenanigans like datisi claiming scum or some crazy, game changing scumslip.
I would support you or ari, but not both. Sub out drew or myself for yourself or for ari and I will go along with this.
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Post #394 (isolation #34) » Fri Sep 29, 2023 2:55 pm
Postby Merlyn »
oh, sorry, this one
In post 391, Merlyn wrote:
THS, what about the conversation that just went on all day led you this way? Also, do you think Hero is town then or are they not correlated?
In post 377, Hero at Heart wrote:
you know what? i am done. i am done with this meta discussion, i am done with discussing my tr of datisi, and i am done with this silly 1v1 with ari. it's not fun and it's not helping town win.
so here's what we're going to do instead. i am going to propose a coalition, and ari - please sheep it eliminate me if it fails. you have my solemn promise i won't push you (but i will be looking for scum). here's my coalition: HEAL: ari, datisi, hero, implo, bella
i'd rather tell ari "i told you" in the postgame after we won than continue this stupid, unfun argument. or i guess if she's scum i can tell her "gg wp you tricked us all". but i don't think she's scum.
the above coalition is actually final*.
*barring extreme shenanigans like datisi claiming scum or some crazy, game changing scumslip.
I would support you or ari, but not both. Sub out drew or myself for yourself or for ari and I will go along with this.
why do you tr drew
Meta mostly. I don't feel like scum Drew gets annoyed or irritated like he did with implo here. I could be wrong but I feel worse about Hero and Ari
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Post #421 (isolation #38) » Sat Sep 30, 2023 12:50 pm
Postby Merlyn »
In post 419, TheHoldSteady wrote:
plus merlyns response to ari could easily be her as scum trying to insert herself into a coal so the game isn't lost for her. I think I agree it's time to fill the coal and if the game doesn't end then go from there
Yeah, and your response here could be you setting up suspicion on me for a future lim. We can go down the wifom rabbit hole for a while
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Post #457 (isolation #40) » Sun Oct 01, 2023 10:02 am
Postby Merlyn »
In post 424, Hero at Heart wrote:
merlyn i don't think you explained the "i would support you or ari but not both" thing yet, can you please explain that?
I didn't think there was anything to explain- I don't tr either of you so I'd rather not take two chances over one
In post 390, Merlyn wrote:
I would support you or ari, but not both. Sub out drew or myself for yourself or for ari and I will go along with this.
This is a sentiment that I don't understand. Why do you want to avoid a specific combination of two people in the coalition? Isn't that... not how a coalition works? Are you just trying to compromise? Doesn't asking for a compromise not make any sense if one of the people you distrust is the one making the decision of who to sub out for who?
The way hero is playing the game right now is very town and also annoying. I kind of hate the attitude of "well if this is wrong then woe is me, i'll just exit stage left". No, if this coalition goes through and is wrong then you don't get to magically shirk responsibility if you're town, you have to play the rest of the game.
I don't feel particularly confident in this coalition. I guess I feel also annoyed at the This Coalition Is Unilaterally Final thing. I like THS (i'll talk about the scum case on him in a bit but it seems like hero is particularly intransigent on him). I feel like Malakittens feels town from what posting she has and is a viable member of the coalition if she winds up showing up to the game more, which I'd theoretically like to give her a chance to do even if she doesn't get added to the coalition because, well, I don't feel as gung-ho as Hero does.
I don't really understand why Ari is just going along with a coalition that it seems like she thinks has decent odds of failing (given that she has expressed a townread on Hero but not on Datisi) after talking about how she's annoyed that she always gets put on failing coalitions as town.
I also don't really buy Hero's datisi-town case, it just reminds me of reasons I have incorrectly townread Datisi in the distant past. I do lean town on Bella but not with high confidence and I like her reason for townreading Datisi somewhat more but it is also pretty intangible because I don't think I've ever really seen things from Datisi-scum that made me want to actively scumread him in early days in past games like she describes, though I definitely believe that someone could.
I don't really understand your questions towards me. I'm offering a compromise bc if Hero accepts then there are more folks in the coalition that I tr. If THAT's not 'how a coalition works' then I don't know how a coalition works. I'd be the one 'making the decision who to sub out for who' bc I'm the one making the suggestion. I don't know if that phrasing makes any sense either way, though, bc I don't have the power to 'make the decision' for the coalition and neither does Hero. Even if he and I end up agreeing it doesn't mean three others will too. Re: distrust- his very acceptance or denial of the offer will also affect my read on him if this coalition fails.
I'm also not really understanding what you mean by 'this coalition is unilaterally final'. I don't think it's final, that's why I'm trying to suggest other options. If you don't agree with it, propose a different coalition?
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Post #463 (isolation #42) » Sun Oct 01, 2023 10:12 am
Postby Merlyn »
In post 437, Hero at Heart wrote:
lso, i agree with you that merlyn's perspective of either me or ari doesn't make sense because that's not how coalition works. i think merlyn is scummy for that.
I'm about to throw my hands up at this game and be done
In post 457, Merlyn wrote:
I didn't think there was anything to explain- I don't tr either of you so I'd rather not take two chances over one
that makes no sense
why would you support someone you don't tr?
So, you genuinely believe that when the final coalition is made, it will be of all your townreads only, and four other people will have supported it, and you will not have to compromise on anything? Because I've been thinking there's no way that's going to happen and we will need to negotiate with each other
In post 564, Aristeia wrote:
I guess I feel like I can get a better read on STD given more time so I'm not really in a rush to vote him yet.
I feel good things about your slot which historically means I'm being snowed by you since I''m not scumreading you
I feel like I can't really touch hero atp since everyone thinks he's town and maybe it's just me being the idiot who can't see it.
I dunno I feel worse about bella than before.
I'm not sold on Hero being town
i'm sold on you not being town though.
This is a weird post.
In post 586, Hero at Heart wrote:
okay would you think i'm crazy if i suggested voting merlyn instead of one of the coalition members? probably yes. i mean i think i'm crazy right now because if i were sane then how come my coalition failed.
Why post this? Either scumread me, build a case, and vote me, or not. This is just useless shade.
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Post #601 (isolation #53) » Fri Oct 06, 2023 2:31 am
Postby Merlyn »
The most annoying thing about this is that I'm being set up for the next lim should I be wrong about std (or maybe even if I'm right, I don't know) and I really shouldn't be at the top of anyone's list. I'm one of the people trying to actually play this game, even though getting engagement has been like wringing blood from a stone. How are you going to even discuss limming me before you look into two people who voted for the coalition without even being in it? How does that not even warrant a cursory post exploring what you think about them?
In post 600, Merlyn wrote:
Does it ususally work out for you finding town by choosing people who agree with your reads?
um, i'd say that it works better than random.
like it's not a perfect method, but then i don't know of any perfect method of finding town.
also i'd been previously thinking that you and drew were svt and this post by him strengthened this feeling and made him look townier in comparison to you.
It does? Genuine question. What would, observing that you do that, stop scum from imitating it and pretending to agree with you? It's fine if this a post game question, I'm not really sure it helps me sort you.
You're not meant to, really. I was talking to someone else about you. That's what made it weird to me. It was like you felt you had to pop in and say 'don't listen to her, Ari!' and that kind of panic is something I associate with scum.
In post 615, Merlyn wrote:
It does? Genuine question. What would, observing that you do that, stop scum from imitating it and pretending to agree with you? It's fine if this a post game question, I'm not really sure it helps me sort you.
two things:
the first thing is, i normally don't care only about what people
state
their reads to be, but also the reasoning behind it. so if someone copies all/most of my reads it looks obvious and i scumread that.
the second thing is, here it didn't feel like drew was catering to me because i had not recently expressed a desire to vote you when drew said that. if he had said that
after
i said i want to vote you, i might've even scumread him for it, but he said it before i said that, so it's clearly not imitation.
Okay, I get that. Just to be clear I was not thinking Drew was doing that, I still pretty much mostly tr Drew .
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Post #622 (isolation #58) » Fri Oct 06, 2023 8:03 am
Postby Merlyn »
In post 619, Hero at Heart wrote:
and like i just don't get std making a super obvious hammer post and then saying he didn't realize it was a hammer
i can't rationalize it.
it makes zero sense.
i would actually tr std if he said the hammer was intentional and that he was 100% sure it would win the game, but this retraction is
really
weird.
I agree with this post. No I'm not trying to pocket you, I think that would be pretty silly of me at this point. I went back and looked at the hammer and it does read like someone hammering on purpose.
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Post #653 (isolation #60) » Fri Oct 06, 2023 2:35 pm
Postby Merlyn »
I just like implo, I don't want to vote there. I get why Drew's voting there but that doesn't mean I think he's right about it. I scumread the other two slots to varying degrees so that makes me uneasy about this wagon. I'm actually pretty happy with my current vote