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VOTE: Razgris for being second twice. Very scummy.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Care to explain your reasoning, then?Antihero wrote:
This vote wasn't random, by the way.Antihero wrote:Panthers lose.
Oh well; at least I caught scum.
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I like my vote. I have been avidly anti-Steelers since, well, forever.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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That's seriously your reasoning? An RVS vote with a joke attached because it looks like it's not a random vote?Antihero wrote:
Look at everyone else's (minus GW's) vote, then look at this one. First off, this one is only one line (doesn't draw attention). Also, everyone else gives a completely non-game related reason for their "random" vote while you actually call Razgriz "scummy," making it seem like there's some kind of element of scumhunting in the vote when in reality there's not.Mariyta wrote:VOTE: Razgris for being second twice. Very scummy.
@Razgriz: Stop putting yourself second and people will stop thinking you faked the list.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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I really hate the "I was just testing you" argument. Yes, the whole point of RVS is to test people and evaluate their reactions, but Antihero's response seems more like a "Crap, no one jumped on the bandwagon. Time to move on." And kdub's post was valid, not scummy. There is no reason for us to believe at this point that Raj is definite town (aside from the fact that he's Raj and Raj is always town, even when he's anti-town. *Antihero, this is a joke, fyi.*)
I agree with the vote on Mongoose, as well. Despite Raj calling it policy, that is really the whole point of the game (for townies, anyway). Mongoose adds nothing to the discuss while trying to seem helpful. Same for Razgriz, so my vote stands and becomes a serious vote.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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I didn't say it wasn't a valid scumhunting method. I just don't like it. Especially when you give in so easily. My apologies for not keeping quiet til scum jumped on. Next time I'll give the fish time to bite.Antihero wrote:
So, I guess you just prefer an RVS which spirals into a crappy theory debate about policy lynches...Mariyta wrote:I really hate the "I was just testing you" argument.
Also, I was hoping others besides you would comment on it (I wasn't expecting bandwagoning votes; that actually would have sent up some red flags for me).
If you look at my meta, you'll see this isn't the case (inhim has seen it before). And also, I think you could figure that this isn't the case from the ridiculously contrived reasoning.Mari wrote:Yes, the whole point of RVS is to test people and evaluate their reactions, but Antihero's response seems more like a "Crap, no one jumped on the bandwagon. Time to move on."
I don't like meta play. People are constantly learning/evolving and I don't feel that looking at past games is as helpful for me as it may be for others.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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I'm so sorry, Jason. My thoughts are with you.
I'd like to hear what Razgriz has to say about the Mongoose wagon. I'm torn between the two at the moment. They both are posting w/o saying a whole lot.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Cowboys?drmyshottyizsik wrote:Oh by the way I forgot to add thisGO COWBOYS!!!!Major FOSMillions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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I really like my vote.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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You can absolutely shorten it to Mari. Most people do. But when you're reading it, please do not pronounce it "Mary." It's "Mah-Ree."Antihero wrote:
QFT; jason is justified, Raz's isn't.charter wrote:Looking for a replacement for Razgriz....
NO MORE REPLACEMENTS. NEXT PERSON WHO QUITS GETS MODKILLED. I EXPLICITLY SAID NO REPLACEMENTS.
I mean seriously, not interested don't sign up next time.
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@Mariyta (can I shorten that to "mari"?): Why do you really like your vote?
I like my vote because it doesn't seem like an "I'm really busy and signed up without thinking" replacement. It seems like a "Well, crap. I signed up, got scum, and I don't like playing scum. This game sucks." Others may not see it that way, but Raz had a couple votes on him and he obviously was interested when he signed up (or why would he sign up?). It seems like a pathetic excuse to me. And I don't agree with the excuse that it's a slow start. Most games start a bit slow. If you want immediate action, don't start games; replace into them halfway through, instead. I hope his replacement proves me wrong, but my vote stays for now.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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I like Locke more than Razgriz already. UNVOTE:
Locke, yes, I do. Well, sort of. Obviously, there are more town, so more townies get replaced in general. But I think quite a few people lose a bit of interest when they get a scum role, especially if they're not super interested in the game to begin with. I'm speaking from experience (though I've never asked to be replaced). Scum is harder to play, and some people don't want to play that role at all.
I need to re-read before I place another vote.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Are you suggesting we lynch you both to make sure one of you isn't scum?rajrhcpfreak wrote:locke: just to let you know inhim usually buddies up with me. prolly because he knows im a lose cannon and think he can read me well. i then know that if he doesnt support me then hes prolly scum. weve just played so long together its habit and if it doesnt happen then one of us is scum. if it does happen then we both are town, or both scum, or one is scum and we are following our normal game play not to look suspicious.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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horrordude, what was this about?horrordude0215 wrote:Coach Travis is townMillions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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It's not necessarily a scumtell, but I felt it was enough this early in the game. Locke has been very active since replacing in, so as GhostWriter suggested, I'm letting it go.mongoose wrote:
thats a really interesting take, though you could say the same thing about being a VT, in a game with so many interesting roles. Or he may not want the pressure or being QB. So I don't think it really is a scum tell.Mariyta wrote: I like my vote because it doesn't seem like an "I'm really busy and signed up without thinking" replacement. It seems like a "Well, crap. I signed up, got scum, and I don't like playing scum. This game sucks." Others may not see it that way, but Raz had a couple votes on him and he obviously was interested when he signed up (or why would he sign up?). It seems like a pathetic excuse to me. And I don't agree with the excuse that it's a slow start. Most games start a bit slow. If you want immediate action, don't start games; replace into them halfway through, instead. I hope his replacement proves me wrong, but my vote stays for now.
Yes, hence the question. Please let him speak for himself, unless, of course, you're afraid your scum buddy will give himself away if he does.also, mari, Horrordude voted for Coach travis.
Coach Travis has been slightly more useful than some others in this game. I understand and respect the fact that you won't always have immediate scum reads on people. Sometimes it's easier to figure out who you think is definitely town and go from there. Right now, I don't see anyone as inherently scummy. I see some people who I think are possibly town, some who are slightly fishy, and some who appear to be utterly useless (also fishy), which is why I have not revoted. I'm deciding between slightly fishy and utterly useless.
The problem is, if you say that 3 people are town, and you cant find any scum, that doesnt help. Any scum can do the same, and why shouldn't they. Its not like the townies you are pointing out were going to be lynched any time soon anyways.Coach Travis wrote: That actually isn't unusual for me. See, I feel if I can find players I believe to be town, that will help narrow down the list of potential scum players, so I still think it's beneficial to the town. Obviously scum don't need to do such a thing, because they know who's scum and who's town, so they wouldn't need to worry about figuring out any alignment at all, where I like to figure out the alignment of everyone and point out whenever I have any type of read whatsoever. This has just been a game where so far I haven't seen a lot of things I'd call scummy.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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I've decided to VOTE: jimfinn. Like mongoose, he's posting, but not really posting anything useful.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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They're both doing the same thing. Everyone is focusing on mongoose and ignoring jim. Jim needs a little pressure, too. Does it upset you that he is no longer flying under the radar?GhostWriter wrote:So he's like Mongoose, but he's not Mongoose, making you fine with voting him?
I understand seeing him as scummy. As my previous post mentioned, I don't like the discussion he so willingly just threw himself into. However, that vote essentially says what my first line in this post says.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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First, that's exactly how your post came off. It sounded like you were accusing me of not voting mongoose when I voted jim. I explained why I voted jim instead. Second, I wasn't being aggressive, though apparently you read it that way. Maybe I should've stuck a smiley face at the end or something. Your reaction is quite aggressive, though.GhostWriter wrote:
Oh, that's fun, let's point fingers at people and imply them as scum. I could do that, and say something along the lines of "does it upset you that Mongoose is getting such a huge bandwagon". But that's rather pointless, isn't it? I think so. Why would I dislike the fact that someone has been called out? Like I thought I implied before, I understand seeing him as scummy, and don't mind that you've pointed him out. But that doesn't change the way that post came across. And I stated how that post came across. Aggressive much?Mariyta wrote:
They're both doing the same thing. Everyone is focusing on mongoose and ignoring jim. Jim needs a little pressure, too. Does it upset you that he is no longer flying under the radar?GhostWriter wrote:So he's like Mongoose, but he's not Mongoose, making you fine with voting him?
I understand seeing him as scummy. As my previous post mentioned, I don't like the discussion he so willingly just threw himself into. However, that vote essentially says what my first line in this post says.
I like Antihero's question to kdub and would like Coach Travis to answer the same, please.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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I didn't backtrack anywhere.Antihero wrote:mari, I've had a fairly solid townread on you for the past few pages (I've been giving you the benefit of the doubt on your persuit of a few red herrings), but the OMGUS and subsequent backtracking doesn't look good.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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That's why I try to use smilies to indicate mood. Text is very easy to misread.GhostWriter wrote:But I wasn't being aggressive. Seems we aren't very good readers of posts that the other makes.
Fair enough. I'm not sure of the vote count either, and I felt my vote would be more useful in pressuring someone else (in addition to mongoose, not instead of him).My problem with your original post wasn't that you pointed out Jim. It was that you point out Jim for reasons similar to Mongoose, who has a wagon and could surely use another vote, and then didn't supply that vote to the Mongoose wagon. I don't feel like Mongoose is taking the votes serious and might need to feel more pressure.
Then again, I don't actually know the vote count.
It was a joke accusation, because I felt he was accusing me of the same with mongoose. The smiley would've made it lighthearted, as it was meant to be.Antihero wrote:What would a smiley have done? You obviously accused him of being jim's scumbuddy in that post.
Now going back and trying to say that you didn't = backtracking
Anyway, back to scum hunting. Waiting on responses from kdub and Coach, as well as useful input from mongoose and jim.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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This is not an acceptable excuse, IMO. I don't even know what to say to rest of it. I mean, why on earth would you say that? As GW has already stated, it's unlikely that you actually possess that role, or you would've kept it a secret as long as possible. If you do, well, bah.jimfinn wrote:To those who have not played with me before: I don't post all that much in the early stages of games in general, unless I see something that gives me a strong read. I tend to wait until my reads are stronger, so that I don't backtrack or lead others the wrong direction. Especially when I have a PR with some form of investigation, I am relatively inactive on D1 in order to allow my power to help me develop at least one of my reads.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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I disagree with this. Coach Travis has been more active and helpful than you, even with the lack of scum reads.mongoose wrote:
You realize you could say the exact same thing for me. If you are doing this, why are you voting me for doing the same?coach travis wrote: The thing is, I have posted one scum read, so you can't say I've made zero effort in catching scum, or putting pressure on anyone. So far I just haven't noticed that much suspicious behavior, as a lot of the activity so far has been around null things or jokes, so it's been easier to spot the players trying to help contribute content than those doing anything particularly scummy. And I post reads whenever I get them, so in a game like this, it's obvious I'll be posting more town reads because I'm having a hard time finding scum
I need a nap, and then I'm going to figure out the vote count, as I have no idea where anyone stands.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Your first sentence is totally not true. Scum intentionally try to be unhelpful while seeming the exactly opposite. Scum tells exist for the purpose of finding scum. If they didn't work, they wouldn't be employed so often. True, they're not 100% accurate and townies are often lynched due to a misread tell, but without them, I don't think mafia would be very playable in general. If you find that your play is getting you lynched more often than not early on in the game, take a look at your past games and figure out where things went wrong. Look at some of the more respected players and their games. It's a learning experience. We all go through it.mongoose wrote:Mari, helpfulness has nothing to do with if you are scum or not. No one ever seems to call me helpful, and I always seem to get lynched (see SSBB, hide and seek, bondoox). I am not that good at making reads, and I make short posts. that has gotten me lynched in 2/3 games Ive played here, the third where I was almost lynched but saved because of a mass role claim. Maybe because I get lynched off these pointless "scum tells" is the reason I am so hesitant to point my finger at someone and say that they are scum, because 90% of the time they can say the same thing back. When I do accuse someone, I get a response saying I do the same thing. Just like here. And now if I accuse anyone else, guess what happens.
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Yes, he didsayit was due to lack of interest. As I said before, Locke's play has been satisfactory, so I removed my vote and we've moved on.
That's what I thought, but wanted to be clear. Also, did you finish reading the thread before voting GhostWriter? We cleared that entire mess up already.horrordude0215 wrote:I said that in RVS because Coach Travis said that he liked the raiders. After all, no raiders fan could be scum, right?Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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I don't think I ever said I thought he made a N1 investigation. It's still bad play on his part, whether he has that role or not. Taking that in addition to his lack of posting, he's one of the less likely town players I've seen so far.Kdub wrote:GhostWriter wrote:I do not actually think you have an investigative role. However, that post was very well written, up until that point. In the future, just leave that part out.
These two posts caught my attention a bit. Based on the possible roles in the setup, there is only one possible investigative role, and that role can't use it on N1 because it requires 14 points, which isn't possible on the first day. It should have been immediately clear that jim was not breadcrumbing a N1 investigation, and I am a bit suspicious that attention was being drawn to it possibly in an attempt to get him to say more about his role.Mariyta wrote:This is not an acceptable excuse, IMO. I don't even know what to say to rest of it. I mean, why on earth would you say that? As GW has already stated, it's unlikely that you actually possess that role, or you would've kept it a secret as long as possible. If you do, well, bah.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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I agree, for now, though I want jim to be more active.Antihero wrote:People, now is a good time to drop the jim thing.
town: GW, inhim, freak, mari
scum: mongoose, kdub, horrordude
Proceed accordingly.
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With that said, there are a couple others I don't like.- Mongoose: for obvious and already stated reasons
- horrordude: His votes have been weak (Coach Travis first, then GhostWriter). The vote on GW is extremely weak and horror seems to only be paying half attention to the game.
- kdub: Locke stated the reason for this well enough. When I read kdub's post initially, I'd forgotten there wasn't an N1. Kdub is trying to keep a dead (or maybe sleeping) discussion going.
IGMEOY horror.
On previewing, I realized that my list is the same as Antihero's. I assure you that this was unintentional. I hadn't really read Anti's list (I take all list's with a grain of salt) and I've been looking at horror suspiciously all game.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Aww, I'm sorry. I didn't intentionally ignore you. You just haven't done anything of honorable mention, in my opinion. Well, aside from the whole discussion about you and inhim, which I found to be stupid, as I know you better than that. I don't think you're scum, if that makes you feel better.rajrhcpfreak wrote:mari, mari, mari... i get you to join the game and you ignore me all game? on your play-style its going in the right direction, i just find it uneasy when someone ignores me. actually i think thats why i like the GG/BG lists by antihero, everyone on that list is going the same direction as me. and with some pretty strong town reads on everyone in the list i dont think its some conspiracy.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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My main reason for voting kdub is that is seems like he's trying to keep the misunderstanding going. This distracts from finding true scum. Did you mean that you're NOT completely convinced he's innocent?Coach Travis wrote:I really don't get the case on Kdub at all. In fact, I don't see anything wrong from either side of that situation, as GW has given me a town vibe from the start of the game, and still is seeming town, and while I'm not quite as convinced about mari he doesn't seem as scummy as some players, and right now I think he's town. But what Kdub said was also fine, as he was just pointing something out, and to me the whole thing seemed like a misunderstanding, so I don't get the two votes on him. I'm completely convinced he's innocent, but he isn't seeming overly scummy right now, he's made some good posts.
I do agree about horrordude looking scummy, his vote on GW definitely needs to be further explained, because right now I don't get it at all, and he really hasn't done anything major aside from that. Also don't like how Shotty made one decent post, and then a whole bunch of joke posts, before completely disappearing. So right now those two and mongoose look the scummiest, IMO.
Good point about shotty. Shotty, where are you?Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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I've been debating whether to switch my vote to mongoose all day, and I've decided to just do it. That's puts him at 5. Takes 7 to lynch. I still don't like kdub or horror, and shotty is borderline, especially after the last post. In fact, I'm slightly less suspicious of kdub after shotty's quick vote and eager attack (while ignoring all the other potential scum candidates).
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Could it be that we've found two scum this early in the game? Shotty is being the nice scum and votes for someone else, while mongoose is clearly fine with bussing his partner. Now who do we want to lynch first? Tough decision. I'll be gone all day, but when I get home, I'll decide.mongoose wrote:unvote. vote: shotty
those posts were scummy beyond belief.
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Eff it. UNVOTE: mongoose, VOTE: ShottyMillions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Gotta love honesty.drmyshottyizsik wrote:oh shit i forgot the role pm's were their. Well god mass claim kills this game. Ya I'm scum... shit
It's probably because he's scum.raj wrote:horrordude0215 - has been bugging me for some reason. i cant lay my finger on it right now.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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VOTE: mongoose
For all the reasons listed yesterday and because GW was on his wagon.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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For what?Antihero wrote:VOTE: Coach Travis
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Voting mongoose?Antihero wrote:GuessMillions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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1. Yes, I know there were a bunch of people. I was one of them. But GW was still on mongoose at the end of the day. As was Coach Travis. Do you think CT was busing?Antihero wrote:Nope
Let's start with the crappy NK meta:
1) There were a bunch of people on the mongoose wagon yesterday.
2) If you want to analyse this kill, go back and read GW's exchange with you around post 140.
My top two suspects are still mongoose and Travis, but if mongoose somehow flips town, I'm willing to bet Mari is scum.
2. The exchange between me and GW was a misunderstanding, nothing more.
What else did I do that you don't like?
I still don't like jim or horror. And I'd like Raj to expound on the GW-Antihero connection he noticed.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Antihero wrote:My gut doesn't like your play for some reason; I have confidence that my brain will figure it out soon.
I still haven't fully grasped it yet, but you seem to chase after a lot of red herrings. But your shotty vote yesterday, doesn't fit with what would seem like optimal scumplay... ... and neither does mongoose's (considering shotty was a pretty powerful scum PR). inhim's might, though...
I'm sorry I don't live up to your mafia-playing standards. I really don't think I'm as awful as you seem to think I am.
After my re-read earlier, I semi-agree on horror, but I still don't like jim. And doing an ISO on Coach Travis, I don't really like him either. Especially after his last post. As Antihero pointed out, it was probably an attempt at distancing himself from the sinking ship that was shotty.
Meh, both of them are probtown (jim because of the thing with shotty and horror because of the crappy piggybacking from scumshotty).Mari wrote:I still don't like jim or horror.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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I'm at a loss for words... Why? Just why??Coach Travis wrote:I know this looks bad for me, but the thing is, I remained rather consistent about Shotty the whole time, there was never this switch Antihero mentioned. My only bad post about was the one where I sorta defended him, but even there I admitted I didn't like him, and he was always one of my suspects. The post afterward wasn't the switch Antihero makes it out to be, because if you look through my posts you'll see the first time I mentioned Shotty he was my third suspect, so I always had a bad vibe from him, I just couldn't tell if he was scummy or just playing awful like usual. So basically, there never was this weird switch, I simply made a mistake because I hate policy lynches(which I felt Shotty was because I didn't nothing anything particularly scummy, and was more annoyed with his playstyle), which also stays true to something I said before the whole Shotty thing even started. I admit I was wrong about him, but I'm not his scum partner.
I still don't like Mongoose, for reasons I mentioned day one, and he probably was just sacrificing his partner once he knew it was unavoidable.Vote:mongoose
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Speaking of inHim, where'd he go? He's disappeared in both the games I'm in with him.Antihero wrote:UNVOTE: Coach Travis
Actually, the claim doesn't make much sense for scum-CT.
I'm really doubting there's more that one TE or LB (too many people using points for that to work; CT, if you really are the TE, use your investigation tonight).
From a scum point of view, Mari's vote for shotty is suboptimal. I'm ruling her out for now. Interactions with shotty decrease the chances of finding scum among jim, kdub, horrordude, and freak. That leaves inhim and mongoose.
VOTE: inHimshallibe
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Shotty wanted the hammer on mongoose (AKA: his scum buddy).Kdub wrote:^
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Read through Kdub ISO and I don't find him as scummy as some of you do. I can see possible distancing from shotty and mongoose, but I think part of that might be reading into things based on what we now know.
Also read through horror, and I still don't like horror, especially due to the below post.
Seems a lot like horror is trying to acknowledge shotty's entrance w/o linking himself definitively. He also said he'd post Tuesday, and it's now Wednesday evening. Tsk tsk.horrordude0215 wrote: Drshotty replaces in... I'm going to keep my judgment to myself on this one lol
Strike that... Shotty's intro post is actually pretty good! Yay for not being PL bait!
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Shotty asks for a modkill... eek.FoSat least.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Why are you voting inHim? The only reason I see is because he declared Raj town. That seems pretty weak at this point in the game.Kdub wrote:If CT is telling the truth, I am fine with being investigated tonight if I am wrong about mongoose.
Since we are not lynching CT today, I'll switch to my second suspect.
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Shhh..... don't give him all the answers!!rajrhcpfreak wrote:kdub is voting inhim because he doesnt want to vote out his scum buddy mongoose.
also, inhim is the only person people have any doubts about right now.
1+1=2
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I was actually just thinking about that maybe 5 minutes ago when I was reading a thread on lurkers... Locke came in, made an impression, then poofed.Antihero wrote:
This isn't entirely true. I don't like how Locke hasn't come under much scrutiny.rajrhcpfreak wrote:also, inhim is the only person people have any doubts about right now.
@kdub: I know you mentioned that he was a suspect. I was pointing out that the case you made on him at the time was extremely weak and you haven't added anything to it. Despite the fact that he hasn't contributed as much as some others, he's still been more useful than several others in this game.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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I guess this would be why. But it's Friday, so I definitely want some action by the end of the weekend.Locke Lamora wrote:Mod: I'm moving house this week so I won't have much time. V/LA until Friday.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Mongoose is almost definitely scum. This has already been established. The question is who is his remaining buddy? My guess is that the third scumster lies within horror, Locke, and kdub.Coach Travis wrote:Yeah, mongoose's case on Kdub is very weak and seems forced. Either he's scum or very bad townie, I still think the first possibility is more likely.
Preview edit: I just read this and I'm leaning toward the latter now.
Fence-sitting at its finest right there.kdub wrote:This talk of me+mongoose as scum is understandable, but I've been up front with my doubts about mongoose as scum.I hope I'm wrong and that if we lynch him, he actually is scum.If CT is telling the truth, hopefully he can clear me tonight in that case. I still would prefer an inHim lynch today though.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Yes, thank you. I knew what I was trying to say, I just didn't express it properly.inHimshallibe wrote:
Fence-sitting isn't the best word, but it's pretty close.Kdub wrote:
Do you even know what fence-sitting is? Because the part you quoted definitely isn't it.Mariyta wrote:Fence-sitting at its finest right there.You're trying to have your cake and eat it too.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Why does mongoose decide to disappear when he's being asked to claim?Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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I get the feeling that we're not getting a claim. Maybe he'd prefer to be modkilled instead of lynched.rajrhcpfreak wrote:well you both checked in and we are kinda waiting on a claim....Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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From his sig:
Guess we can't be too mad yet.I will be v/la starting thursday, and ending on the following sunday for Dasara holidays (from the 7th til the 16th). i may be able to post when I am at my cousin's houses, but during some periods I may not have internet access.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Meh. I don't think I believe this. The bolded part really bothers me.mongoose wrote:sorry guys, I was up in the mountains, where even the mobile internet thing doesn't get connection.I probably got the scummiest role (easiest to fake I mean, which doesn't help my cause), in offensive tackle.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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I think it's hammer time. I like horror for a lynch tomorrow.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Now this is funny.Kdub wrote:I'm down for an inHim lynch today. Mari and raj seem like possible buddies.
VOTE: inHim
Based on memory, I'm leaning toward horror, kdub, or Locke (especially based on Razgriz's play). Will re-read when I get home tonight before placing a vote.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Did you miss the "based on memory" part? Raz was my main suspect before he left and I don't remember much of what you did.Locke Lamora wrote: Mari: how come you're falling back to suspecting me based on Razgriz's play now?
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Ok, re-read was by ISO. Sorry for the wall.
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-I don't like this at all. It comes off as creating just enough of a connection to not be seen as avoiding while still keeping as distant as possible. Then FOSes shotty in the same post for suggesting a modkill. Then he comes in to vote GW on a dead-and-gone misunderstanding, and promptly disappears, making minor posts here and there to say he's still alive. Has not posted anything but v/la crap since Sept 26th.Drshotty replaces in... I'm going to keep my judgment to myself on this one lol
Strike that... Shotty's intro post is actually pretty good! Yay for not being PL bait!
-Shotty says horror is his third choice, but doesn't give reasons (wreaks of scum setting up a potential bus w/o committing to anything)
inHim
Seems like typical inHim to me. I don't get scum from him at all.
jimfinn
-Meta claim about lack of play D1 is lame (as Raj pointed out)
-"I tend to wait until my reads are stronger, so that I don't backtrack or lead others the wrong direction." Town doesn't have definitive information on alignment, so it's natural to change opinions throughout the game. I don't see the need to hold back information/opinions for fear of backtracking. Worried about drawing unwanted attention, maybe?
-I still don't get why he would say "Especially when I have a PR with some form of investigation, I am relatively inactive on D1 in order to allow my power to help me develop at least one of my reads." if he didn't have a PR or wasn't trying to set up a future fake-claim, especially now that we know he didn't have the investigative role (or can assume that, anyway, for as someone pointed out, that would be a LOT of points to use in one night).
-Voted shotty based on modkill comment (which I don't really read as a big deal), but he did leave his vote there all day, which is a huge point in his favor.
-"Yeah I think we should lynch mongoose today and have CT investigate Kdub tonight. I'm not moving my vote until I feel stronger support for this, but that's my lean right now." I know this is a major stretch, but bear with me. It would be in scum's interest to say "Good idea. Investigate this other guy who I know is town but is drawing a lot of suspicion," then kill off investigator before town read can be revealed. Like I said, major reach, but figured I'd throw it out there.
-Placed hammer on mongoose, but that's not a big deal.
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ISO didn't reveal anything blatantly scummy. Not sure why I keep thinking he's scum. I'm not going to trust my gut at this point.
Razgriz/Locke
-Raz made no attempt to participate at all, then replaced when suspicion was placed upon him (yes, I know, he was bored. Whatever. I still find it extremely suspicious that he didn't want to playafterhe came under scrutiny.)
-Locke voted kdub, then voted shotty for voting kdub...
-Summary: Raz seemed like scum, Locke just seems meh. Has posted, but nothing really stands out. I'll table this for now.
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Raj, have your feelings about kdub changed?
With all that said, VOTE: horror. jim comes in second on my list, w/ Locke a distant third.
Edit note: I realized the only one I didn't add anything about is Antihero. That's because he seems pretty town to me and unlike inHim, he hasn't come under any notable suspicion.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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I said it was a huge point in your favor, not that it was scummy.jimfinn wrote:Can someone explain to me why being early on the lynch of a scum is scummy?Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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I disagree. The more I think about it, though, I might move him to third and bump Locke to second. I also have this nagging feeling that there is scum sitting in the group of folks I feel to be definitely town, but that could just be unwarranted paranoia.Antihero wrote:Why is jim the second person on Mari's list? He's the most townish person alive to me right now.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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It didn't strike me as odd, but that doesn't really mean anything. Shotty was so blatantly scummy, that anyone could pull a good case against him. Why?Locke Lamora wrote:What's your opinion of my Shotty vote, Mari?Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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