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In fact, he's the opposite. Calling himself town AND trying to policy lynch chesskid in his first post of the game?-
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So clearly it has nothing to do with my status as Town/scum/third party.
Pine wrote:VOTE: chesskid
Completely serious policy vote for reasons stated in sign up thread.I pulled Town, and don't want him dragging us down.
1. It has nothing to do with your alignment? Why did you say it?
2. Town wants town alive, despite who is behind the reins. If I was in a game with furcolow, shotty, andrew94, moose200x, vezok and me, I would at least recognize that a majority of them were town even though I don't like the fact that any of them are playing in the same game as me. It shows that you want a lynch and you don't give a shit about alignment.-
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chesskid3 wrote:Miller.
Vote: Pine
Bring it, biatch
Well, not only did he say NOTHING about this being a policy lynch, he also claimed miller and you don't care about any of that.
That's called a policy lynch, DH. I don't have any idea at this point what chesskid's alignment is
You don't call for a lynch on someone's alignment on which you have absolutely no certainty of.-
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Basically: If you have a really fucking annoying as shit player who is town, that doesn't take away from the fact that they aretown. Though I don't think chesskid is annoying at all and people react too heavily around him, that's digressing. Take a look at his play so far. Is it really play of someone who is scum? Ask yourself that.
I'm going to keep my vote on you, though, because I absolutely despise the way you called yourself town.-
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Continues attacking Pine for something that's a known null-tell, random voting and asking for a lynch is essentially the definition of the RVS period.
I like your analysis, but no. RVS is not "asking for a lynch", it's "finding out enough information to start the game off proper".
Calling oneself "town" in the -first post of the game- is not a null tell. It's really really really odd.-
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Pine wrote:@DH: It was in reference to this post from the signup thread, (where my problem with chesskid started):
Pine wrote:Dude, you lied in the pregame. Add your reputation on this site in, and you're clearly a liability to whatever team you're on. So if I'm Town, it's in my best interests to get rid of you before you can be a dick and screw us over, and if I'm scum with you...well, I've already committed to it, so I'd have to follow through, now wouldn't I?
You're confusing "policy" with "I personally dislike you". Your threats are the latter, mine are the former.
Maybe that will clear it up for you. Seriously, I'm not so obvious as that when playing scum. I tend to be more careless as Town.
You pretty much stated that you'd do this 100% though, since there's no sense in claiming scum if you are scum. That's what I find weird about it.-
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Pine, basically, the main point in what I find scummy about what you did is that you gave the unneeded information that "I'm town". The fact that you voted someone who claimed miller is all secondary, but it just rings as plainweirdto me.-
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Pine, I've never played with DH before though I've spectated a few of his games, arguing over semantics isn't something I've seen him do as town
Wow, then apparently you didn't look hard enough, lmao. I always get into wall post arguments about semantics.
Is Parama even in this game? Pretty sure that Para didn't say he was Parama. Yet.
However, you made good points on Gaoth (and I admit I didn't read him closely since I was too busy talking to Pine). Pine, don't hold a grudge. I'm glad that you took the miller claim into perspective, at least, and you seem to have pretty genuine motivation behind what you did now that you explained it a bit more, so
Unvote, Vote: Gaoth
Reg is right and you look bad for posting filler. 4 pages and you don't have a read yet.-
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Dude, you're 4 votes to a lynch. Why would you feel like you need to claim?-
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Hell, I do L-2 claims all the time, but L-4?-
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Gaoth wrote:@Regfan Yeah, I got a little excited about finding out if Parabollocks was an alt, but this was because I was trying to determine how I should be viewing his play style. I referenced a past game (which I know some of the other players here were in) to illustrate my opinion on the role claiming. I have yet to offer speculation on the policy lynch situation because they were referencing an argument on the sign up page, a page which I never visited, and at that point was having trouble finding. However, I will offer my thoughts on it now, because I found it!
So, Chesskid wants a PL on C-Worl for past actions. Pine wants a PL on Chesskid for wanting a PL on C-Worl. IMHO, Pine's defense of C-Worl seems very buddy-buddy, especially since they have been distancing themselves in game. I know, Pine said he would PL Chesskid on principle, regardless of alignment, but it would have been very easy to just let it go (IT WAS THE SIGN UP PAGE FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!). The fact that Pine carried it out so long says to me that he is trying to protect C-Worl. This screams scumbuddies, especially since I'm assuming that the set up is similar to the 90's game with two differing (fairly small) mafia factions.
On that note, I am guessing the set up is 12-2-2, and we are one weak-ass town, or its 10-3-3 PRs in both (obviously the more likely situation, since set up blatantly states there are PRs out there.
I think we should put some pressure on Pine.
UNVOTE Gorilla, VOTE Pine
Resistance is Useless!
Not better. Your vote is a "pressure" vote after all of that?-
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chesskid3 wrote:eh I'm obvtown
but I've been obvtown as scum before
(see 90's band lololol)
Both you and I know that you act very differently when you're scum. And you're acting quite the opposite here. Yes, you are extremely town.-
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Talapus (9): diddin, Gorilla, evilpacman18, Parabollocks, Regfan, Hiraki, tarsonisoceot, scumhunter, Chesskid3
Vote: tarsonisoceot. A C-Worl vote and then Talapus out of -nowhere-.
No.-
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chesskid3 wrote:But but but but but hiraki was voting Tarson
And? Hiraki is town. It fits that Hiraki was killed as a defensive maneuver, especially since tarson doesn't seem that experienced.-
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tarsoniscumalot wrote:Talapus has just jumped into my scumlist majorly with that overdefensiveness.
UNVOTE: VOTE: Talapus
See, this is her only reasoning for her Talapus vote. And then she said something about the # of votes needed to lynch.
She needs to die pwease. Hang her pwease.-
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chesskid3 wrote:but but but but but hiraki only makes sense as a kill in that sense if there's 1 scumteam
and even in that case he was grade A mislynch bait why kill him
1. 90's mafia was two teams. It's plausible that this is a one team game.
2. Why kill him?
Becauuuuuuuseeee like I said, defensiveness?
Preview edit: Well, even if he was vigged, do you disagree that tarson's vote was absolute garbage?-
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Scumhunter wrote:vote: Regfan
He voted for town yesterday. Burn.
Wow did you like even read or what is this-
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What? Why are we claiming?
I mean, I'll claim next if so, I just want confirmation from the majority of everyone that we're doing this, because it's Day 2.-
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Aw, hell, I'll do it now.
Green Day, 21 Guns is my main performance.-
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tarsonis not knowing who the hell her band is with a song that isn't that well known as well as being able to explain herself in regards to Hiraki = very very very town. I was wrong.-
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So....Pine, C-Worl or gorilla....
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Vote: gorilla. Your votes so far have been midwagon and opportunistic.-
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Cage isn't obscure, but Free Love sure as hell is.
I realized that a mass-name claim was probably a good idea like a few seconds after I posted before my claim. It was more like: Shock (why the hell are people claiming?) and then realization (oh, well I guess it could benefit, so why not).-
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Pine: TO said she was female a few times now.-
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Why diddin and Pine? I agree with the other 3 (and Scumhunter, no matter how dense he is)-
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Because you outed yourself out as a power role?
Jesus.-
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Scumhunter, seriously, remind me to look over the playerlist for each game I join for now on for you and /out whenever you /in so I never have to play with you again.-
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Scumhunter, at this point you are PISSING ME OFF-
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AND I RARELY GET PISSED OFF IN A GAME OF MAFIA
NOW THINK.-
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Except that he never said he was confirmed town
except that it makes sense that he wouldn't claim as scum
faking a flavor claim or any other claim is DUMB and either way, SH is dumb. He either is gambiting as a VT creating a trap that anyone could fall for or outed himself as a power role and both are DUMB.
and I'm pissed-
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DemonHybrid wrote:Why diddin and Pine? I agree with the other 3 (and Scumhunter, no matter how dense he is)
SH, diddin isn't the only one who thinks you are dumb town. I do. chesskid does. gorilla does (not that that matters...he's likely scum). Because it doesn't make SENSE that you'd claim as scum and think that you're cool.-
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C-Worl wrote:Pine wrote:So...why didn't you vote for him just now, then?
BC, I'm scumz and I'm stupid. Duh.
OH LOOK, A SCUMCLAIM, SCUMHUNTER
I MAED IT EASY FOR U-
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You're playing a town game this game. I know I'm going mostly off of meta, but you've done a lot of scumhunting in this game.-
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Sorry, I'm here.
I was busy wrapping up THAT GAME THAT SHALL NOT BE NAMED.
Slaxx knows.-
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Unvote, Vote: nintendoaddict1
gorilla's another day. Thank you for summarizing that for me, Regfan.-
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Question:
Are we not lynching NA tonight? Or are we just gathering more info, and then lynching him?-
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Scumhunter wrote:Why would scum claim scum? Shouldn't he be modkilled for trolling then? That's playing against your win-condition.
Giving up is different than outright claiming. If he says something about his buddies though, he should be. As of right now, he should be lynched.
However, I'm not Slaxx. So I can't exactly tell you what will happen.-
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Vote: EPM
You were a bit too sure that nintendo was town there, broski-
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Pine, you had better scumhunt your ass off today.
Also, this doesn't clear diddin. I hope that's clear.-
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Magua wrote:So...er, not to be ungrateful or anything, but why revive Pine instead of waiting for a PR to die?
"Vanilla" reviver.-
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DemonHybrid wrote:Magua wrote:So...er, not to be ungrateful or anything, but why revive Pine instead of waiting for a PR to die?
"Vanilla" reviver.
Never mind, this was answered.-
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Also, I'd imagine that you'd get a song for each ability.-
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Slaxx: If a JOAT of any alignment were to be in this game, would that JOAT be able to perform more than one different action a night?-
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This is a theme game. It could go either way.-
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I'm still waiting for Slaxx's answer before I process ANY of this.-
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Magua wrote:@Pine:If EPM is scum, then DemonHybrid is scum and C-worl is town.
Alright, you've said this about a million times now. As if you're psychologically wired to say it.
Why?-
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I'll believe EPM's claim for today, though he's by no means confirmed, as he could be a mafia JOAT, but I'm not for lynching him right now. Can't really bring myself to risk killing off a potential town JOAT; they're really powerful. On the other hand, I'll be keeping an eye on him very heavily. Personally, though, I think the band claim gels....not sure about the song names, but I guess that's for future discussion. EPM should live today.
My other suspect is still gorilla. I need to check others' avoidance/tunneling of nintendo, so I'll be back with that later.-
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I said a few things. You conveniently decided not to include the last part of my post.
1. I said Iwasn't sureabout the song names. You seem to imply that that 100% means that I'm suspicious of it. I'm saying that I have yet to see a flip that confirms less popular songs as potential songs, but I'm not throwing away the possibility.
2. I would have thought:
though he's by no means confirmed
would suggest that, you know, he's NOT CONFIRMED TOWN. So, it could go either way, as your colors suggest. Yes, I don't want his lynch today. No, I'm not completely sure of his innocence.
And I'm not voting C-Worl, or anyone at the moment, because I'd like to evaluate everyone's interactions with nintendo and I won't be doing that until I get back from work later today.-
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I left out the stuff about gorilla, yes. Wasn't relevant to the point I was making, which is that you are hardcore fencesitting.
You left out the stuff about gorilla and my desire to look at nintendo's reactions with other people.
You said you believed his claim. Believing his claim => believing he's a JOAT. I *utterly* fail to see how song or band names come into it. But, given that you believe his claim, and you believe his band claim, why would you even *mention* his song claim? Do you think his band claim and role claim are legit but his song claim isn't?
Flavor doesn't come into it. For further information, I said the band name seemed to gel, and I wasn't sure about the song names,but that's for later discussion. I'm only really focusing on the claim.
Never said you thought he was town. Said that you believe his claim, believe his band name, but still put suspicion on him on extremely minor points (like songs).
And once again, you completely misrepped me by saying that my mention of his song names = suspicion, when I explicitly said that it doesn't.
To be frank: bullshit.
You voted EPM in #607 based off of his relationship with nintendo. So obviously had looked at *that* interaction. Did you not bother to look at anyone else's during the Night?
You then unvote after the claim, doing the exact same thing to EPM that you were voting EPM for doing to nintendo.
Yes, but 1. We didn't have EPM's claim at that point, and 2. I didn't look at everyone's relationship with nintendo, which is what I want to do. And no, I didn't. Because I don't sit here and read through games during the night; I work and I have a life.
Also, that last sentence is a logical fallacy AND wrong. 1. I unvoted before Slaxx gave me the information that JOATs can use more than one ability a night.
2. EPM unvoting nintendo after his claim =/= me unvoting EPM after his claim. They were completely different scenarios. nintendo gave conflicting information about his roleclaim. EPM didn't. And he has evidence from the mod to back up his claim.
tl;dr: EPM's flavor helps, but is not the sole reason why I don't want him lynched today.
Song names may or may not be mainstream. That is yet to be confirmed and is the ONLY thing I said about song claims.
EPM's claim holds water; nintendo's was a contradiction.
I don't want EPM's lynch today. I will be looking at his play in the future and be basing my read off of him because of that.
Any other logical fallacies and reaching arguments you want me to disprove, Magua? Best to get it out of your system now.-
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Magua wrote:DemonHybrid wrote:Any other logical fallacies and reaching arguments you want me to disprove, Magua? Best to get it out of your system now.
Do you think I'm scum?
I'm not sure. I just ISO'd you and Nico. You nor Nico had any interaction with nintendo short of voting for him for his slip. You also seemed to be joking around pretty heavily and Nico was into the flavor speculation for a bit, so you're a bit on the scummy side. I work in an hour, though, and I don't plan to get into focusing on Nintendo's reactions until I'm back, so that's a placeholder for now.
Did you ask because I asked you the quoted above?-
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Here, I'll make it easy for you. I think you're scum. I really want you to hang. I find your fence-sitting to be incredibly scummy. I find your defenses to be AtE along with dirt throwing. I think that EPM is the mafia roleblocker, and you're incredibly scared he's going to get lynched and you're going to be up shit creek without a paddle.
AtE? Please point that out. Also, cool setup speculation.
Funny that you're a mind reader, too. I was just going to say, if you asked me because I asked you what I did, town tunneling can often cause misrepping, reaching statements and logical fallacies. It's the motivation that counts. Your motivation has comprised of pressing for information; however, it also comprised of avoiding speaking to nintendo (both you and Nico), setup speculation and joking around when replacing in.
You're definitely -scummy-. Rather, the scummy side of null. But I have yet to analyze (as stated for about the 10th time so far) nintendo's interactions, so that may change.-
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