Open 879: Fire and More Fire [game over]

Meuh · Post Post #39 (isolation #0) » Sun Jun 18, 2023 7:48 am

In post 27, Merlyn wrote: I recognize everyone but Meuh and Cook

VOTE: Meuh no one recognizes them, must mean something

What a gross misassessment of the situation at hand. The people who are speaking up, making their voices known might not know me, but I in fact do know quite a lot of people on this playerlist! This characterization from the silent minority mind sound accurate, especially as you yourself also do not know me, but there are quite a few familiar faces in this playerlist, even some I've played with several times! It's profoundly baffling to paint the situation as such and hurts me oh so deeply. Ask Ausuka or Firebringer about my charming appearance at the New Year dance party, ask Skygazer or osuka about my expert scumhunting in Datisi's micro normal, ask Bellaphant or Radical Rat about my helpfulness in Cosmos Mafia (which ended up having me nightkilled, mind you!), ask The Bulge about our excellent teamwork in newbie 2063, the list goes on!
VOTE: Merlyn

Meuh · Post Post #41 (isolation #1) » Sun Jun 18, 2023 7:53 am

hi I am meuh

Meuh · Post Post #49 (isolation #2) » Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:15 am

Which came first, the GeorgeBailey or the economy

Meuh · Post Post #157 (isolation #3) » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:01 pm

In post 63, towwl wrote: It is oh so very tempting to put Cook at E-1

Bad vibes in this post

Meuh · Post Post #158 (isolation #4) » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:01 pm

Like I've said the same thing before but the vibes here particularly irk me

Meuh · Post Post #159 (isolation #5) » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:02 pm

In post 70, Radical Rat wrote: For the record, while I do still consider this Mostly an RVS vote, I also don't take putting her at E-1 lightly, and have a small seed of reasoning behind it.

RR town woooooooooo

Meuh · Post Post #160 (isolation #6) » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:02 pm

In post 71, Ausuka wrote: VOTE: towel

I am a big believer in omgus theory

Getting town Ausuka energy here but I've never played with her as scum so I'm not sure what I should even be looking for

Meuh · Post Post #161 (isolation #7) » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:04 pm

In post 76, Cook wrote:
In post 74, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 72, Cook wrote:
In post 70, Radical Rat wrote: For the record, while I do still consider this Mostly an RVS vote, I also don't take putting her at E-1 lightly, and have a small seed of reasoning behind it.
what is that reasoning?
If I were ready to share it, I would have done so with the vote. For now, just know that there Is reasoning.
suspicious but i'll buy it

In post 77, Invisibility wrote: I think I get it

In post 78, Cook wrote: i'm missing something

In post 79, Invisibility wrote: she does not know laughing crying emoji

I like this back and forth on both ends, for Invisbility more than for Cook though

Meuh · Post Post #162 (isolation #8) » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:05 pm

In post 80, Firebringer wrote:
In post 63, towwl wrote: It is oh so very tempting to put Cook at E-1
GEORGEbailey
VOTE: Towwl

In post 81, Invisibility wrote: VOTE: Towwl yea

Firebringer noticing this post is nice actually
Invisibility can be town

Meuh · Post Post #164 (isolation #9) » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:06 pm

In post 83, Merlyn wrote:
In post 79, Invisibility wrote: she does not know laughing crying emoji
VOTE: invis gatekeeping knowledge

Do not like this one

Meuh · Post Post #165 (isolation #10) » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:07 pm

In post 85, towwl wrote: On a somewhat related note, I think Rat and Cook are town.

Why Cook?

Meuh · Post Post #166 (isolation #11) » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:09 pm

In post 97, Umlaut wrote: VOTE: Merlyn

Semi-serious, I don't claim to have any sort of meaningful read here but there are a few things I don't like.

This is where I'd vote Merlyn if I wasn't already

Meuh · Post Post #167 (isolation #12) » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:12 pm

In post 114, osuka wrote:
In post 98, towwl wrote:
In post 93, Bingle wrote: Towwl is there a particular reason you jumped to thinking that playing with fire was a scumslip instead of using the idiom in the traditional sense of “engaging in a dangerous activity” like, I dunno, an RVS E-1?
I probably should've used a /s on that line. What initially pinged me about 60 and led me to post 64 is what I see as fake caution. After Merlyn asked me about it I noticed the wordplay (but thought it was coincidental) so I poked fun at it by calling it a scumslip.
weirdest post in the thread so far. to recap: you made up some shit that was obviously wrong, got called out on it, and backpedaled off of “it was a joke?”

it’s amateur hour

Original post made it pretty clear to me it was a joke? Not towwl's fault you can't read

Meuh · Post Post #169 (isolation #13) » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:13 pm

In post 124, Invisibility wrote:
In post 85, towwl wrote: It's very clearly a scumslip as she responds to somebody sheeping her as "playing with fire" when the title of this game characterizes the mafia as fire.

The more serious reason is [yadda yadda yadda]
I was asking cuz I dunno what you're saying when Towwl says he's joking in this post. Like, yeah, if it was after someone called him out then sure it could be backpedaling but this is in the same post. Jeez the Wheeze

Yeah this!

Meuh · Post Post #171 (isolation #14) » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:16 pm

osuka reminds me of confident town players trying to emulate their playstyle as scum but not actually believing the bullshit they're saying
Reminds me a lot of Baltar in this game actually viewtopic.php?t=90886
VOTE: osuka

Meuh · Post Post #173 (isolation #15) » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:17 pm

In post 137, Umlaut wrote: To answer the "why Merlyn" questions:

In post 27, Merlyn wrote: I recognize everyone but Meuh and Cook

VOTE: Meuh no one recognizes them, must mean something
This isn't a big deal but for some reason I can't express it seemed more "forced" than the other random votes, and also a bit like picking on the player you perceived as least experienced.

In post 83, Merlyn wrote:
In post 79, Invisibility wrote: she does not know laughing crying emoji
VOTE: invis gatekeeping knowledge
Really dumb reason for a vote and looks like going through the motions of voting for things you think you ought to find suspect instead of things that actually are.

Yooooooooooo the mindmeld is crazy, Umlaut town

Meuh · Post Post #203 (isolation #16) » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:51 pm

In post 188, osuka wrote:
In post 187, Bingle wrote:
In post 183, osuka wrote: ill forgive this one since youre probably catching up and you might not have read the rest of the explanation. you get the benefit of the doubt on this one but no more get out of jail free cards left for you
We get get out of jail free cards? brb, robbing a bank.
you dont have any, they're reserved for people ive played with in the past and who werent actively killing my brain cells

I'll take this as a compliment then if I get to have one

Meuh · Post Post #209 (isolation #17) » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:54 pm

In post 191, Bingle wrote:
In post 175, Radical Rat wrote: And since the Mafia is split between the lover pairs here, I'd expect scum to be a bit more careful when looking for targets, since the usual kind of things Town can do to look scummy that normally makes them easy mislim targets, could also just as easily be from the other scum pair.
This, btw. Towwl's tone and everything came across as super careful which is probably scum in this setup, akshually, and the reason for scumreading ausuka was a very shallow one that was unlikely to be a hit.

The reason I'm scumreading Ausuka is because that same post from her looks like scum trying to signal other scum that she is in fact scum.

VOTE: ausuka

Hmm interested on this careful scum thing actually and it could explain towwl's posting which I found tough to decipher
Hoping Drew can make things clearer

Meuh · Post Post #211 (isolation #18) » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:56 pm

Skygazer can you scumhunt please I wanna townread you on vibes but I'm too smart to do that again

Meuh · Post Post #213 (isolation #19) » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:58 pm

Ausuka's interactions with Bingle feel very reminiscent of Ausuka in the other games I've played with her
Her gameplay in general does tbh
Either she's very good at emulating it or she's just town again, willing to assume the latter for now

Meuh · Post Post #221 (isolation #20) » Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:10 pm

In post 217, Bingle wrote: Meuh, what about Rat are you townreading?

I liked the E-1 vote (not really from a "this is optimal" perspective but from it looking like it has good motivation) and more recent posting generally looks solvy

Meuh · Post Post #223 (isolation #21) » Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:10 pm

In post 219, Skygazer wrote:
In post 211, Meuh wrote: Skygazer can you scumhunt please I wanna townread you on vibes but I'm too smart to do that again
i've been hanging out w someone i have a crush on since the game has started

Simple... get them to hydra with you

Meuh · Post Post #271 (isolation #22) » Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:45 pm

VOTE: RadicalRat

Meuh · Post Post #277 (isolation #23) » Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:50 pm

VOTE: Merlyn

Meuh · Post Post #306 (isolation #24) » Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:40 pm

In post 293, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 292, osuka wrote:
In post 291, Invisibility wrote:
In post 182, osuka wrote:
In post 171, Meuh wrote: osuka reminds me of confident town players trying to emulate their playstyle as scum but not actually believing the bullshit they're saying
Reminds me a lot of Baltar in this game actually viewtopic.php?t=90886
VOTE: osuka
i would ask if youve never seen me play but i know for a fact you have, so can we get the bullshit "oh osuka sounds like a dick" out of the way and actually give a reason why you think my role pm is red?
does this happen a lot
it happened the last game i played, with none other than meuh, in the thread which is conveniently linked in 171
Why did they mention Baltar then?

osuka "sounding like a dick" is not what's behind my feeling here
I just didn't buy that osuka actually believed what he was saying, and that mismatch between confidence and the thoughts being sent reminded me of what I scumread about Baltar in that game (who was indeed scum!). Baltar was confidently pushing his ideas but I didn't believe he actually believed in these things.
Still a bit murky on osuka but the clarification on the whole towwl thing helped on that front

Meuh · Post Post #307 (isolation #25) » Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:41 pm

In post 304, Merlyn wrote:
In post 161, Meuh wrote:
In post 76, Cook wrote:
In post 74, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 72, Cook wrote:
In post 70, Radical Rat wrote: For the record, while I do still consider this Mostly an RVS vote, I also don't take putting her at E-1 lightly, and have a small seed of reasoning behind it.
what is that reasoning?
If I were ready to share it, I would have done so with the vote. For now, just know that there Is reasoning.
suspicious but i'll buy it

In post 77, Invisibility wrote: I think I get it

In post 78, Cook wrote: i'm missing something

In post 79, Invisibility wrote: she does not know laughing crying emoji
I like this back and forth on both ends, for Invisbility more than for Cook though
I'm not sure why more for invis

she does not know laughing crying emoji

Meuh · Post Post #433 (isolation #26) » Wed Jun 21, 2023 1:02 am

In post 312, Black wrote:
In post 173, Meuh wrote:
In post 137, Umlaut wrote: To answer the "why Merlyn" questions:

In post 27, Merlyn wrote: I recognize everyone but Meuh and Cook

VOTE: Meuh no one recognizes them, must mean something
This isn't a big deal but for some reason I can't express it seemed more "forced" than the other random votes, and also a bit like picking on the player you perceived as least experienced.

In post 83, Merlyn wrote:
In post 79, Invisibility wrote: she does not know laughing crying emoji
VOTE: invis gatekeeping knowledge
Really dumb reason for a vote and looks like going through the motions of voting for things you think you ought to find suspect instead of things that actually are.
Yooooooooooo the mindmeld is crazy, Umlaut town
This mindmeld feels weird. A forced RVS vote and both missing the joke in 83. Could be a pocketing attempt from Meuh

I got the joke in 83, I just tend to see these sorts of votes that are semi-serious but paired with jokey reasoning and I don't like a vote on Invisibility there
Though looking at Umlaut's post again it's definitely less mindmeldy and a lot more disliking the same posts (which I still think looks good for Umlaut to some extent)

Meuh · Post Post #434 (isolation #27) » Wed Jun 21, 2023 1:04 am

In post 311, osuka wrote:
In post 306, Meuh wrote:
In post 293, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 292, osuka wrote:
In post 291, Invisibility wrote:
In post 182, osuka wrote:
In post 171, Meuh wrote: osuka reminds me of confident town players trying to emulate their playstyle as scum but not actually believing the bullshit they're saying
Reminds me a lot of Baltar in this game actually viewtopic.php?t=90886
VOTE: osuka
i would ask if youve never seen me play but i know for a fact you have, so can we get the bullshit "oh osuka sounds like a dick" out of the way and actually give a reason why you think my role pm is red?
does this happen a lot
it happened the last game i played, with none other than meuh, in the thread which is conveniently linked in 171
Why did they mention Baltar then?
osuka "sounding like a dick" is not what's behind my feeling here
I just didn't buy that osuka actually believed what he was saying, and that mismatch between confidence and the thoughts being sent reminded me of what I scumread about Baltar in that game (who was indeed scum!). Baltar was confidently pushing his ideas but I didn't believe he actually believed in these things.
Still a bit murky on osuka but the clarification on the whole towwl thing helped on that front
do you have anything of substance for me to respond to? id love to point out exactly why you’re wrong, but i can’t do that unless you elaborate more on why you think you understand what i’m doing

oh btw I have nothing to ask and I think you just playing the game will be more helpful in sorting you than me asking you about anything in particular (especially since this is a general feeling I have with your posting and less something that can be pin pointed to one or two posts alone)

Meuh · Post Post #435 (isolation #28) » Wed Jun 21, 2023 1:05 am

Also does anyone know how to read Black? Cause I don't

Meuh · Post Post #436 (isolation #29) » Wed Jun 21, 2023 1:07 am

I feel like discussing signaling in of itself makes signaling easier for scum so while it's something to look out for, I'm not sure having long discussions on that topic is really helpful (especially since we could just like, scumhunt instead which is better anyways!)

Meuh · Post Post #437 (isolation #30) » Wed Jun 21, 2023 1:10 am

337 is silly but also feels very Drew-ish and I like it in that sense

Meuh · Post Post #438 (isolation #31) » Wed Jun 21, 2023 1:13 am

In post 388, The Bulge wrote:
In post 381, Bingle wrote:
In post 377, Cook wrote: hi i saw a replacement happen

what should i know about the state of the game as it is right now
People are complaining about mech talk when there is no mech talk. I brought up the possibility that scum was signaling each other and the pushback is that while what I think ausuka did has scum value and ausuka has stated she doesn’t think town would punish her for doing the thing with scum value, it is unreasonable for me to think ausuka would do the valuable thing that shouldn’t be punished as scum.
i should clarify; what im talking about isnt really mechtalk, its what typically takes mechtalk's place in a not-especially-mechanically-heavy setup, and thats very subjective theorycrafting discussed in a very objective sense about what to expect from each alignment in a given setup. its almost always distracting, annoying, self-indulgent at best and scum-motivated at worst. this kind of d1 discussion typically starts with scum in my experience and usually succeeds in distracting town discussions from real scumhunting.

FACTS ON FACTS

Meuh · Post Post #492 (isolation #32) » Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:25 pm

In post 443, Black wrote: VOTE: Ausuka

I want to help Bingle's cause here. I don't really think she was signaling tbh, and my first impression from Ausuka's posts was that she felt confident in what she was saying. Initially I liked this but after reading over her ISO the confidence reads little scummy to me. Part of this has to do with me personally being more confident when I'm scum, and I know I can't really accurately apply that to other people but I want to push this gut feeling and this wagon anyway

Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town -> Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town -> Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town -> Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town -> Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town -> Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town ->

Meuh · Post Post #493 (isolation #33) » Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:27 pm

At least one scum on Ausuka, scum loveeeeee jumping on the classic day 1 Ausuka wagon (which I would know because I have)

Meuh · Post Post #512 (isolation #34) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:12 am

In post 499, Invisibility wrote:
In post 443, Black wrote: VOTE: Ausuka

I want to help Bingle's cause here. I don't really think she was signaling tbh, and my first impression from Ausuka's posts was that she felt confident in what she was saying. Initially I liked this but after reading over her ISO the confidence reads little scummy to me.
Part of this has to do with me personally being more confident when I'm scum, and I know I can't really accurately apply that to other people but I want to push this gut feeling and this wagon anyway

I do not like the reasoning for this vote

In post 448, Black wrote: I think scum want to publicly town hunt this game. Like moreso than usual because I feel like the scum teams probably want to coordinate with each other as far as knocking off townies. The problem is townies are going to do this too because it's what townies do. So it might be hard to pinpoint where the noise is coming from but I think we can at least feel good about scum helping town sort
this feels like fluff which is a thing that is probably still scummy in this setup
VOTE: Black

I think the reasoning itself is fine but the bolded bit seems like it's overjustifying which I don't love

Meuh · Post Post #513 (isolation #35) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:12 am

In post 497, Bingle wrote:
In post 493, Meuh wrote: At least one scum on Ausuka, scum loveeeeee jumping on the classic day 1 Ausuka wagon (which I would know because I have)
Who is it and why?

You and/or Black, maybe Drew

Meuh · Post Post #514 (isolation #36) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:15 am

In post 502, Black wrote:
In post 492, Meuh wrote:
In post 443, Black wrote: VOTE: Ausuka

I want to help Bingle's cause here. I don't really think she was signaling tbh, and my first impression from Ausuka's posts was that she felt confident in what she was saying. Initially I liked this but after reading over her ISO the confidence reads little scummy to me. Part of this has to do with me personally being more confident when I'm scum, and I know I can't really accurately apply that to other people but I want to push this gut feeling and this wagon anyway
Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town -> Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town -> Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town -> Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town -> Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town -> Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town ->

In post 493, Meuh wrote: At least one scum on Ausuka, scum loveeeeee jumping on the classic day 1 Ausuka wagon (which I would know because I have)
This is my first game with Ausuka but this kinda feels like an exaggeration? Like I am sure she has flipped scum before. Where does that fit into this?

Played with her twice, she was town both times and this happened in both games, sure she could still be theoretically scum but it's enough to find the Ausuka wagon bad

Meuh · Post Post #515 (isolation #37) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:16 am

In post 507, Ausuka wrote:
In post 504, Skygazer wrote:
In post 493, Meuh wrote: At least one scum on Ausuka, scum loveeeeee jumping on the classic day 1 Ausuka wagon (which I would know because I have)
scum also love white knighting ausuka (which i would know because i have)
When did this happen

Yeah what

Meuh · Post Post #517 (isolation #38) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:16 am

VOTE: Black

Meuh · Post Post #518 (isolation #39) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:17 am

In post 516, Radical Rat wrote: Composition wise, I definitely like the Bingle wagon better than the Ausuka wagon

Agreed, though I also feel like the setup makes wagon composition less pertinent than it usually would

Meuh · Post Post #531 (isolation #40) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:07 am

In post 520, Black wrote:
In post 512, Meuh wrote: I think the reasoning itself is fine but the bolded bit seems like it's overjustifying which I don't love
The bolded part is basically the only reason I'm voting for her lol. It's all gut

"X is scum because they're confident and I also am when scum" is fine enough reasoning, it's the wishy washyness around it and the lack of conviction being made as clear as possible

Meuh · Post Post #533 (isolation #41) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:10 am

In post 521, Black wrote:
In post 514, Meuh wrote: Played with her twice, she was town both times and this happened in both games, sure she could still be theoretically scum but it's enough to find the Ausuka wagon bad
So this only happened twice? Ok so it is an exaggeration

Ausuka getting into spicy 1v1s early on in day 1, getting voted by the other player in the 1v1 and OMGUSing them, then getting scumread for her confidence in that situation is a specific enough thing that I think twice in two games is enough to form a pattern? Or do I need a 50 game sample size? Calling this an exaggeration feels like an exaggeration

Meuh · Post Post #536 (isolation #42) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:13 am

In post 528, Black wrote: It makes sense for you not to remember but Meuh coming in with "yeah what" implies she doesn't remember either and I'm not sure why she would expect to remember something like that? It just reads as defensive

I was also in that game, and luckily enough I was ISOing Ausuka there when making the cyclical post to make sure I hadn't imagined Ausuka's 1v1 tendency and Ausuka's spiciest early 1v1 in that game was with... Skygazer, which doesn't really click with the idea of Skygazer WKing her

Meuh · Post Post #537 (isolation #43) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:14 am

In post 534, Umlaut wrote:
In post 492, Meuh wrote: Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town -> Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town -> Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town -> Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town -> Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town -> Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town ->
This is useful information if true, can you back it up? (I only really remember one game with Ausuka, and I was modding that one)

I'll nab receipts

Meuh · Post Post #543 (isolation #44) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:24 am

In post 537, Meuh wrote:
In post 534, Umlaut wrote:
In post 492, Meuh wrote: Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town -> Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town -> Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town -> Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town -> Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town -> Ausuka joins game -> rolls town -> gets into 1v1 early on in day 1 -> OMGUSes the other player in the 1v1 -> gets scumread for confidence and for her behaviour in those interactions -> eventually flips -> flips town ->
This is useful information if true, can you back it up? (I only really remember one game with Ausuka, and I was modding that one)
I'll nab receipts

viewtopic.php?p=13754599#p13754599 (this whole back and forth with Skygazer following this post)
viewtopic.php?p=13758826#p13758826 (this one with Baltar, who happened to be the other scum there)
viewtopic.php?p=13595601#p13595601 (Ausuka and Shirou here in the other game I played with Ausuka)

Meuh · Post Post #544 (isolation #45) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:25 am

In post 539, Black wrote:
In post 536, Meuh wrote:
In post 528, Black wrote: It makes sense for you not to remember but Meuh coming in with "yeah what" implies she doesn't remember either and I'm not sure why she would expect to remember something like that? It just reads as defensive
I was also in that game, and luckily enough I was ISOing Ausuka there when making the cyclical post to make sure I hadn't imagined Ausuka's 1v1 tendency and Ausuka's spiciest early 1v1 in that game was with... Skygazer, which doesn't really click with the idea of Skygazer WKing her
How did you know what game Skygazer was referring to?

Inference

Meuh · Post Post #569 (isolation #46) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:09 pm

In post 547, Black wrote:
In post 435, Meuh wrote: Also does anyone know how to read Black? Cause I don't

In post 517, Meuh wrote: VOTE: Black
What's your read on me here? Why am I scum?

MEh you've done a few things that have scumpinged me but on a broader scope I'm kinda ?? on you
Vote was mostly for pressure

Meuh · Post Post #570 (isolation #47) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:11 pm

In post 556, Cook wrote: i read to like page 14 and wondering if anyone had thoughts on invisibility

Got some town pings there + similar thought processes and nothing scummy so probtown

Meuh · Post Post #571 (isolation #48) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:14 pm

In post 538, Umlaut wrote: I feel like a whole lot of the arguing over what scum would do in this setup is assuming scum are any better than we are at figuring out optimal play. If I were scum in this setup I would have just come in playing my usual game and not thought much about the mechanical implications for at least a while.

Echoing this regarding the whole scum townreading thing, scum are probably just playing as they normally do and looking for behaviours specific to this setup is less productive than looking for regular scummy stuff that still applies here

Meuh · Post Post #572 (isolation #49) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:24 pm

I like Bulge's case on Bingle but then I look at Bingle's ISO and it's like, hmm. Kind of just wanna leave that slot to sort for later

Meuh · Post Post #582 (isolation #50) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 3:00 am

Firebringer uber town, he only gets one uber though I'm not that generous

Meuh · Post Post #583 (isolation #51) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 3:01 am

In post 577, Merlyn wrote:
In post 523, Bingle wrote: VOTE: Meuh

I’ll probably do a readslist tonight.

Pedit: I think both Meuh and merlyn are defending ausuka much more strongly than anything ausuka’s done merits, FWIW.
Yeah but, but it's not really whether Ausuka deserves to be defended because she's posting so town, it's that the arguments being made against her are full of holes.

Exaaaaaaaaactly

Meuh · Post Post #584 (isolation #52) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 3:09 am

In post 578, Merlyn wrote:
In post 544, Meuh wrote:
In post 539, Black wrote:
In post 536, Meuh wrote:
In post 528, Black wrote: It makes sense for you not to remember but Meuh coming in with "yeah what" implies she doesn't remember either and I'm not sure why she would expect to remember something like that? It just reads as defensive
I was also in that game, and luckily enough I was ISOing Ausuka there when making the cyclical post to make sure I hadn't imagined Ausuka's 1v1 tendency and Ausuka's spiciest early 1v1 in that game was with... Skygazer, which doesn't really click with the idea of Skygazer WKing her
How did you know what game Skygazer was referring to?
Inference
Meuh, why would you infer that Sky is referring to the game you three were in together if she wasn't white knighting her in that game?

Because
1. I had already brought up this game multiple times so referencing it would make more sense than referring to another game
2. Scum Skygazer/town Ausuka is a specific enough scenario that it narrows down the possibility of it being a different game a lot
3. Skygazer was responding to me, so it'd make sense for him to refer to that game and to explicitly state if he wasn't
4. Pretty sure Skygazer only recently returned to the site and as such wouldn't have an extensive pool of recent games to have WKed Ausuka in
5. 507 very heavily implies that there isn't another game that I'm not aware of

Meuh · Post Post #585 (isolation #53) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 3:09 am

Hope you're ok Bingle!

Meuh · Post Post #589 (isolation #54) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:26 am

In post 586, Radical Rat wrote: My heart still says Drew, but I'll also take Cook or Black.

May compromise on Bingle, but I'd rather not yet.

Never voting for either of the 'sukas or Firebringer today, barring some wacky developments.

Whenever I've read a Drew post so far I just think "that sure is a Drew post" and then move on with very marginal changes of my perception of him
Probably doesn't help that his most substantial posting has revolved around the signaling stuff and that entire discussion's just went over my head

Meuh · Post Post #608 (isolation #55) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 2:31 pm

In post 592, Skygazer wrote: i may or may not be taking acid 2morrow

a poll: should my first bout of serious posting be on page 25+ while tripping acid? please vote:

a) yea
b) hell yea
c) nah
d) skyg what are ya doin drugs are illegal

b for sure

Meuh · Post Post #609 (isolation #56) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 2:32 pm

In post 596, Radical Rat wrote: I'm still leaning Town on Bingle, it's just that he's the townlean I'm most willing to compromise on since it isn't a very strong lean, and it looks like a Town-driven wagon at least.

Feel similarly in the sense that the Bingle wagon is made a lot more appealing by the way it's been pushed and who's been pushing it, though I'm more ???? than townleaning

Meuh · Post Post #611 (isolation #57) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 2:34 pm

In post 606, Merlyn wrote:
In post 584, Meuh wrote:
In post 578, Merlyn wrote:
In post 544, Meuh wrote:
In post 539, Black wrote:
In post 536, Meuh wrote:
In post 528, Black wrote: It makes sense for you not to remember but Meuh coming in with "yeah what" implies she doesn't remember either and I'm not sure why she would expect to remember something like that? It just reads as defensive
I was also in that game, and luckily enough I was ISOing Ausuka there when making the cyclical post to make sure I hadn't imagined Ausuka's 1v1 tendency and Ausuka's spiciest early 1v1 in that game was with... Skygazer, which doesn't really click with the idea of Skygazer WKing her
How did you know what game Skygazer was referring to?
Inference
Meuh, why would you infer that Sky is referring to the game you three were in together if she wasn't white knighting her in that game?
Because
1. I had already brought up this game multiple times so referencing it would make more sense than referring to another game
2. Scum Skygazer/town Ausuka is a specific enough scenario that it narrows down the possibility of it being a different game a lot
3. Skygazer was responding to me, so it'd make sense for him to refer to that game and to explicitly state if he wasn't
4. Pretty sure Skygazer only recently returned to the site and as such wouldn't have an extensive pool of recent games to have WKed Ausuka in
5. 507 very heavily implies that there isn't another game that I'm not aware of
I can't decide if this feels like too much explaining or not

If you start nitpicking at my thought process, I'll lay the whole thing out

Meuh · Post Post #613 (isolation #58) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 2:58 pm

Funniest shit I've seen in a while thank you

Meuh · Post Post #635 (isolation #59) » Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:56 am

In post 630, Bellaphant wrote:
In post 587, Umlaut wrote: It's weird that RR and I are at odds like this, most of our games I'm nodding my head along with everything they post but I really don't see the Bingle case and think Ausuka is a fine yeet.

I could compromise on Cook, she has made essentially no impression at all on me this game which is a good enough reason for a day 1 choice.
I feel this.

I could compromise on mueh too, this isn't at all like the game we played together

Spoiler:

Meuh · Post Post #636 (isolation #60) » Sat Jun 24, 2023 2:03 am

What game did we even play together actually? I don't recall it

Meuh · Post Post #637 (isolation #61) » Sat Jun 24, 2023 2:10 am

Wait it was Cosmos mafia

Meuh · Post Post #641 (isolation #62) » Sat Jun 24, 2023 2:32 am

I also thought the Black “wagon” was just me but apparently Invisibility was also voting Black?

Meuh · Post Post #705 (isolation #63) » Sun Jun 25, 2023 11:34 am

In post 672, Bingle wrote: I’d be interested in Ausuka/Merlyn takes on meuhs response to sg being you didn’t wk ausuka compared to scum wouldn’t wk ausuka.

This entire push on me is shit and this post exemplifies it best
Like this is not an actual question that helps sort me or a reason I'd be scum??? I'm town, but that doesn't mean every single one of my actions needs to be justified in the sense that scum!me couldn't do them. I'm solving, I'm showing my thought processes, I'm real, that's why I'm town, not because some specific reads or stances I take fit or don't fit within the purview of a world in which I'm scum. Skygazer presented a weird idea that was at odds with reality, I contested it, and I moved on. I don't see why I would've needed to say that I wouldn't WK Ausuka as scum, maybe I would? I don't really care, I'm town regardless

Meuh · Post Post #707 (isolation #64) » Sun Jun 25, 2023 11:43 am

In post 657, Bingle wrote: I feel like it's previous obvious that Meuh WOULD benefit from protecting scumpartner Ausuka. I feel like it's pretty obvious that scumMeuh WOULD benefit from Ausukatown or Ausukaotherscum. And I absolutely think that the unnatural progression from Meuh looks like WKing.

Also like, this logic is applicable to literally any townread ever isn't it???
You townread Firebringer? Well if you're partnered with Firebringer that's beneficial cause it protects him, if Firebringer is scum not with you then it still protects him, if he's town then that's pocketing him and you look good from it
This is like the weird fucked up version of 448

Meuh · Post Post #708 (isolation #65) » Sun Jun 25, 2023 11:52 am

In post 690, osuka wrote:
In post 645, Bingle wrote: Alright:

First, wagon on me:

Ausuka - Primarily, voting me as OMGUS. I still think Ausuka isn't particularly towny, but generally her placement on my wagon isn't a really scummy one.
Firebringer - Voting me for a meta case (and a bad one). His case on me is that I'm not doing a thing that's NAI for me, I'm doing a thing that's NAI for me, and that I'm doing a thing that he claims isn't NAI for me based on a game he was the backup mod for, but which is notably NAI for me. I'm not really a player who can be caught via 'meta case'. Regardless, I believe that Firebringer believes the case, which makes him a fairly strong town read.
The Bulge - Apparently, the main thrust of Bulge's scum read on me was my leading question at Ausuka. I had thought there was a significant portion to do with the mech speak accusation, but on reread it does seem very reasonable that that callout was nonspecific and not actually aimed at me. Bulge's accusation that it's ridiculous I would think so is, imo, silly, since his clarification that it wasn't actually about mechspeak was directly quoting a post about people specifically calling me out for mechspeak. The implication there, to me, was that the 388 was in fact singling me out. I don't really think that is unreasonable. Of the people voting me, I think this is the worst vote, but I don't particularly think it makes Bulge scum.
Invisibility - Vizzy's mostly been sheeping bad cases on me, but the way the way she's doing it doesn't scream scum to me.

Of these 4 I think there is no way there's a pair of scum and that it's unlikely that there are two different scumteams represented. Generally, despite the shit quality of each of the reads, I think they are more likely than not to actually be things the people behind them think. I vaguely agree that the wagon on me is roughly town driven.
unless i missed something - why are you offering reads on the people on your wagon? what is this?

I'm pretty sure someone asked them to but I can't for the life of me find the post

Meuh · Post Post #709 (isolation #66) » Sun Jun 25, 2023 11:53 am

Also hi Sheep!

Meuh · Post Post #710 (isolation #67) » Sun Jun 25, 2023 11:55 am

Regarding IC: I generally think that letting the person with the role decide what to do is the best way to go about it and I don't feel particularly inclined to push them towards doing anything, especially since discussing it in of itself I think makes the role weaker

Meuh · Post Post #845 (isolation #68) » Mon Jun 26, 2023 5:19 pm

In post 784, Firebringer wrote: GeorgeBailey demands everyone submit one player that they would never elim day one.

GeorgeBailey will use this information for research purposes.
Don't need an explanation.

Just need a name.

I submit the name Meuh.
You must submit a name before day ends or face a stern looking GerogeBailey

Joke's on you I'm starting a counter townwagon on you

Meuh · Post Post #892 (isolation #69) » Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:52 am

Feeling always one scum in Black/Bella and I wanna set my sights there tomorrow but I don't think a lim there is happening today
Not really compelled by the biggest wagons at this point? Bingle is fine I guess, there's like a disconnect between his view of the game and the game itself from my pov that isn't necessarily scummy but his need to make sure it's always rationalized is pretty blegh (828 is a bit iffy to me) but I also feel like he's making the game move forward and feels fairly solvy at times + has some good thought processes at times (little moments like 865 I like)
I think Sheep can flip scum fairly often (Cook did nothing town indicative and Sheep hasn't wowed me at all) but I'm also not really actively getting scumpings there and I think Sheep is one of the players who's more readable long-term and I'd rather lim someone who I think won't be
I kinda want a lim in {osuka, Drew, Merlyn} because they're all players I'm neutral on at best who I'm not super confident will be easy to read long-term

Meuh · Post Post #893 (isolation #70) » Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:53 am

In post 868, Invisibility wrote:
In post 606, Merlyn wrote:
In post 584, Meuh wrote:
In post 578, Merlyn wrote:
In post 544, Meuh wrote:
In post 539, Black wrote:
In post 536, Meuh wrote:
In post 528, Black wrote: It makes sense for you not to remember but Meuh coming in with "yeah what" implies she doesn't remember either and I'm not sure why she would expect to remember something like that? It just reads as defensive
I was also in that game, and luckily enough I was ISOing Ausuka there when making the cyclical post to make sure I hadn't imagined Ausuka's 1v1 tendency and Ausuka's spiciest early 1v1 in that game was with... Skygazer, which doesn't really click with the idea of Skygazer WKing her
How did you know what game Skygazer was referring to?
Inference
Meuh, why would you infer that Sky is referring to the game you three were in together if she wasn't white knighting her in that game?
Because
1. I had already brought up this game multiple times so referencing it would make more sense than referring to another game
2. Scum Skygazer/town Ausuka is a specific enough scenario that it narrows down the possibility of it being a different game a lot
3. Skygazer was responding to me, so it'd make sense for him to refer to that game and to explicitly state if he wasn't
4. Pretty sure Skygazer only recently returned to the site and as such wouldn't have an extensive pool of recent games to have WKed Ausuka in
5. 507 very heavily implies that there isn't another game that I'm not aware of
I can't decide if this feels like too much explaining or not
I don't like Merlyn testing the waters here

In post 824, Merlyn wrote: Looking at the lead wagons, I'd rather lim Bingle than sheep. I guess. A Sheep lim would give so little info. But I hate lims that the best reason is 'we'll get a lot of info when you die!'
also don't like Merlyn seemingly setting herself up to vote

I also agree with 832 and 860
VOTE: Merlyn
Merlyn flashwagon can we do it?

VOTE: Merlyn let's goooooooooooooooooooo

Meuh · Post Post #896 (isolation #71) » Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:57 am

I don't really agree with Merlyn's readslist being town indicative in of itself
The content in it is fine, I guess, but tbh the need to have a clear stance on every player I think comes from scum more often than town, townies are usually fine having some reads be nebulous and not stated while scum like to be clear about their beliefs on everything all the time

Meuh · Post Post #899 (isolation #72) » Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:59 am

I think Skygazer can flip scum but I also see no reason not to let him live to tomorrow if he is busy and then if he doesn't click with the game boom lim and if he does click with it then we can actually sort him

Meuh · Post Post #902 (isolation #73) » Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:03 am

In post 897, Black wrote:
In post 892, Meuh wrote: Feeling always one scum in Black/Bella and I wanna set my sights there tomorrow but I don't think a lim there is happening today
In post 892, Meuh wrote: I kinda want a lim in {osuka, Drew, Merlyn} because they're all players I'm neutral on at best who I'm not super confident will be easy to read long-term
First of all why do you think I'm scummy? And second why would you not want to vote for me or Bella due to not thinking we could get limmed, yet you're willing to vote for osuka, Merlyn, and Drew? Why are those 3 more likely to get limmed today? And which of these 3 are you "neutral" on? It seems really weird that you're willing to vote for someone you're neutral on instead of me/Bella who you seem pretty confident consists of one scum

There's a bunch of little things you've said that have bothered me and that have accumulated to a general bad feeling, and I also think it just makes sense for there to be scum in that spot in the game (you/Bella)
I actually don't think osuka is more likely to be limmed but I still included him cause he is indeed part of that pool of players to me
Merlyn has votes and some other interest, there's been interest in Drew, while the wagon on you have been stagnant and there's been little to no interest in a Bella wagon happening
I'm neutral on Drew here because I still have gotten barely any pings from him which is a pain

Meuh · Post Post #903 (isolation #74) » Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:04 am

In post 901, Umlaut wrote: Meuh, who would you dayvig today if you could?

Probably Bella tbh

Meuh · Post Post #907 (isolation #75) » Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:11 am

I was aware yes

Meuh · Post Post #914 (isolation #76) » Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:18 am

In post 910, Black wrote:
In post 907, Meuh wrote: I was aware yes
So you just wanted to jump on something with visible mobility? Rather than start a wagon on someone you seem pretty confident could be scum? One of the reasons you're voting for Merlyn is you think she will be hard to read over time but I feel like this thought should apply to me too. I don't like this from you

There's 24 hours left, a blossoming wagon on a player I feel bad about, this wagon has stated interest from others, and the one who placed the initial vote is someone I townread. I'm okay settling for that. If someone starts a wagon on you I'll be more than okay jumping on that.

Meuh · Post Post #916 (isolation #77) » Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:20 am

I get the general sense of "oh scum look for viable wagons instead of wagons that will hit scum" but I'm also bewildered how you can look at the state of the game and think it applies here and I think it's a stretch

Meuh · Post Post #918 (isolation #78) » Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:22 am

In post 917, Black wrote:
In post 914, Meuh wrote: this wagon has stated interest from others
Who has shown interest besides Invisibility?

I think Bulge was pretty skeptical of the townreads being thrown at her over the readslist

Meuh · Post Post #920 (isolation #79) » Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:23 am

Might've actually overestimated the momentum there (especially with the townreads over the readslist) tbh but there's definitely some potential, enough for me to want to see if this can go anywhere

Meuh · Post Post #925 (isolation #80) » Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:27 am

In post 919, Black wrote:
In post 916, Meuh wrote: I get the general sense of "oh scum look for viable wagons instead of wagons that will hit scum" but I'm also bewildered how you can look at the state of the game and think it applies here and I think it's a stretch
There has been just as much interest in a wagon on me as there has been with Merlyn, unless I'm mistaken. It just feels weird that you would go there instead of me when your read suggests you think I'm more likely to flip scum. Like what's the harm in trying to start a wagon up on me? At least two other people have said they would be willing to vote there. It feels like you're going for Merlyn because she's an easier target tbh

I think a big difference is that my vote's been sitting on you for a while, there's been the chance of you becoming a real wagon for a while but no one's committed to jumping on top of it, while Merlyn hasn't had real wagoning potential shown and this potential being shown could actually lead to a real wagon
Also being an easier target is like, a good thing? I want a wagon to form, it'd be counter-productive for me to focus my energy on limming a tough target

Meuh · Post Post #927 (isolation #81) » Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:28 am

It's like you keep pointing at these things that are just relevant to a wagon actually forming and calling me scum over it and it's like ??? yeah I want the wagon I'm jumping on to have actual viability

Meuh · Post Post #995 (isolation #82) » Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:06 pm

Both of these wagons suck

Meuh · Post Post #996 (isolation #83) » Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:07 pm

Making a Bingle or Sheep wagon appealing isn't an easy task but you guys have succeeded

Meuh · Post Post #997 (isolation #84) » Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:08 pm

VOTE: Bingle

Meuh · Post Post #999 (isolation #85) » Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:09 pm

FB's just town I don't get the scumreads in the slightest

Meuh · Post Post #1003 (isolation #86) » Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:12 pm

Merlyn just has very blegh posting and the reasons people have for townreading her are all bad, it's more of a broad feeling than specific moments
and a "I guess I'm not townreading Merlyn" sentiment feels worse the more content is provided because I'd expect Merlyn to do some townie stuff by now

Meuh · Post Post #1004 (isolation #87) » Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:15 pm

In post 1001, Ausuka wrote: Mooh why do you even scumread merlyn

You seem to have gone from "meh i guess im not townreading merlyn" to "If you wagon anyone except merlyn or black I hate you and you suck"

Donempire would also be good
Drew would be better than either FB or Skygazer
osuka too but a bit less
Bingle and Sheep aren't ideal but they're both better than those wagons
Idt this is an accurate characterization when I literally mentioned 5 people I was happy with wagoning in that post earlier and that I didn't despise the Sheep/Bingle wagons

Meuh · Post Post #1007 (isolation #88) » Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:22 pm

In post 533, Meuh wrote: Calling this an exaggeration feels like an exaggeration

Copying my homework smh my head...

Meuh · Post Post #1009 (isolation #89) » Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:26 pm

Actually yeah why is Drew voting for you right now that vote sucks

Meuh · Post Post #1010 (isolation #90) » Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:27 pm

8 wagon split with 13 hours left is crazyyyyyyyyy actually what even

Meuh · Post Post #1014 (isolation #91) » Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:31 pm

I did like her Bella read actually that's fair, most of the rest I didn't find super compelling

Meuh · Post Post #1015 (isolation #92) » Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:31 pm

Gngn
Will also be around before/at deadline so we can figure something out last minute as functional towns always do

Meuh · Post Post #1019 (isolation #93) » Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:41 pm

RR come consolidate on Bingle with me

Meuh · Post Post #1020 (isolation #94) » Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:41 pm

Also wasn't that like one person who called you out on that, I liked it

Meuh · Post Post #1026 (isolation #95) » Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:46 pm

I think Umlaut also stated interest in Black? If that's doable then I could do that

Meuh · Post Post #1027 (isolation #96) » Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:47 pm

Actually wasn't Black also in like null pile in Merlyn's list, maybe Merlyn can jump on

Meuh · Post Post #1029 (isolation #97) » Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:48 pm

I considered sheeping on Sheep but Bingle had more people and I just wanted a big ol stack of votes

Pedit: VOTE: Black OMGUS

Meuh · Post Post #1032 (isolation #98) » Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:50 pm

If Sheep materializes I'll jump on also

Meuh · Post Post #1035 (isolation #99) » Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:52 pm

I feel like there's a deep irony in this cycle of complaining about lack of consolidation and doing whatever it is we're doing but also it's too funny to stop
Pedit: Damn we really made the same post

Meuh · Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:53 pm

Meuh · Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:54 pm

I'll also obviously jump on Drew if that happens

Meuh · Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:56 pm

Is sheep happening though? Cause the Donempire vote switch made that a lot less tangible in my eyes

Meuh · Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:59 pm

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOO VOTE: Drew this is the wagon that'll work trust trust

Meuh · Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:13 pm

In post 1053, Umlaut wrote:Lagavulin

Spoiler:

You guys keep reminding me of this fella and it makes me quake in my boots

Meuh · Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:16 pm

In post 1057, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1056, Meuh wrote:
In post 1053, Umlaut wrote:Lagavulin

Spoiler:

You guys keep reminding me of this fella and it makes me quake in my boots
Lol, I have no idea what that is.

https://slay-the-spire.fandom.com/wiki/Lagavulin

Lagavulin (Slay the Spire enemy) vs Lagavulin (Whisky) is the real zoomer/boomer divide...

Meuh · Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:19 pm

Very fair, actually

Meuh · Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:23 pm

We're just trying to figure a lim out
Oh and you have two votes on you now (not cool)

Meuh · Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:23 pm

Are you chillin with a Drew lim?

Meuh · Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:24 pm

Meuh · Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:25 pm

Drew wagon comp is so good though

Meuh · Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:26 pm

In post 1068, Firebringer wrote: my mind and reads are all over place.
Why can't we get traction on bingle again

Idk I can settle there but Bingle also has a bunch of townreaders

Meuh · Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:28 pm

I think we could have you/me/RR/Umlaut on Black rn but I also think a bunch of people aren't down for that

Meuh · Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:29 pm

I think Ausuka and Sheep go Drew but not Black which is pretty meaningful

Meuh · Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:30 pm

I'd be so happy with that but there's like 0 momentum, it makes vanity wagons look like they're speeding

Meuh · Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:38 pm

I'm NOT lazy VOTE: Black

Meuh · Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:39 pm

In post 1084, Radical Rat wrote: I don't want to just ping pong, but I will be around for deadline, so consider my vote as on both Drew and Black

But yes this

Meuh · Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:43 pm

In post 1089, Firebringer wrote: my drew case can be summed up that if he is scum i would see him trying to be more political and not moving his reads around aggressively.

For instance the way he was questioning people about pressuring me and then flipped around to calling me scum for a minute was classic towndrew move.

flip flopping so fast is not that great for scum because it catches eyes.
Also way he has disagreed with various opinions and has his quirky unique takes are more town drew.

THis has been my ted talk brought to you by georgebailey

Ausuka was calling him out for having stagnant reads that haven't changed in ages and you're saying he's switching his reads aggressively
I could check who's right by ISOing Drew but that sounds lame

Meuh · Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:46 pm

In post 1090, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1079, Meuh wrote: I'd be so happy with that but there's like 0 momentum, it makes vanity wagons look like they're speeding
You didn't seem too opposed to these with zero momentum(well besides the Bingle wagon which obviously was the top wagon for most of the day, but you seem to be rallying for certain lims to go through no problem that had no momentum, why the issue now?)

In post 1019, Meuh wrote: RR come consolidate on Bingle with me

In post 1026, Meuh wrote: I think Umlaut also stated interest in Black? If that's doable then I could do that

In post 1027, Meuh wrote: Actually wasn't Black also in like null pile in Merlyn's list, maybe Merlyn can jump on

In post 1032, Meuh wrote: If Sheep materializes I'll jump on also

In post 1039, Meuh wrote: I'll also obviously jump on Drew if that happens

In post 1043, Meuh wrote: Is sheep happening though? Cause the Donempire vote switch made that a lot less tangible in my eyes

In post 1048, Meuh wrote: LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOO VOTE: Drew this is the wagon that'll work trust trust
Pre Edit: Oh look, Ausuka moves her vote again....ain't that something.

Sheep had plenty of momentum for most of the day too
Black had a lot more stated interest and actual votes
Donempire has not only not been stated as a potential wagon by like anyone but I don't think has been voted like ever? and is barely being mentioned
There's a gap, if you wanna bridge it and vote Don then be my guest!

Meuh · Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:47 pm

In post 1094, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1091, Meuh wrote: Ausuka was calling him out for having stagnant reads that haven't changed in ages and you're saying he's switching his reads aggressively
I could check who's right by ISOing Drew but that sounds lame
they could be stagnant now. I am basing it off the very early game stuff.
But pls fact check me

Ausuka said something like that the reads weren't taking into account anything past page 20 so maybe you're both right in your own ways

Meuh · Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:48 pm

In post 1098, sheepsaysmeep wrote: would anyone be willing to kill invisibility

Noooooope

Meuh · Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:50 pm

In post 1102, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
In post 1100, Meuh wrote:
In post 1098, sheepsaysmeep wrote: would anyone be willing to kill invisibility
Noooooope
damn ok

bulge slot?

Bella/don slot?

No Bulge yes Don

Meuh · Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:54 pm

I specifcally remember liking Bulge's posts on Bingle so his push on Bingle specifically being called scummy is pretty ?? to me

Meuh · Sat Jul 22, 2023 1:14 pm

Lol at both scum teams checking FB night 1

Meuh · Sat Jul 22, 2023 1:15 pm