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DragonEater70 · Post Post #7 (isolation #0) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:10 am

In post 5, Naerys wrote: I rolled a dice and it told me that there is Dragonwolf in this game
VOTE: DragonEater70

Oh noooo how did you find me out so quickly

VOTE: DragonEater70

DragonEater70 · Post Post #8 (isolation #1) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:12 am

Btw, my initial thought because this game is 12 players and complex is that there's probably only 2 scum but one is a vigilante

I'm kinda disappointed I didn't roll mafia vigilante tbh

DragonEater70 · Post Post #10 (isolation #2) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:22 am

In post 9, Thomith wrote:
In post 8, DragonEater70 wrote: Btw, my initial thought because this game is 12 players and complex is that there's probably only 2 scum but one is a vigilante

I'm kinda disappointed I didn't roll mafia vigilante tbh
Omg maybe inventor could give a gun to scum vigilante if it exists so they can get a triple kill!

Ooohhh

I like this idea

DragonEater70 · Post Post #12 (isolation #3) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:25 am

Naerys

What's your alignment?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #14 (isolation #4) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:29 am

Good so I can safely pocket you this game

DragonEater70 · Post Post #16 (isolation #5) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:34 am

Did I already pocket you this game?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #18 (isolation #6) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:24 am

Hi Black!

DragonEater70 · Post Post #20 (isolation #7) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:47 am

I'm bored

DragonEater70 · Post Post #26 (isolation #8) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 4:27 am

wiki wrote:As of 31 October 2023, Non-Town Vigilantes are allowed in Complex Normal games.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #27 (isolation #9) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 4:27 am

In post 25, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 13, Naerys wrote: As always, town
Imagine never rolling scum, like some kind of reverse gob situation

It's called being Alianna

DragonEater70 · Post Post #30 (isolation #10) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:09 am

This game is boring

I claim mafia

VOTE: DragonEater70

DragonEater70 · Post Post #34 (isolation #11) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:14 am

In post 31, Naerys wrote: you were voting for urself already

In post 32, Thomith wrote:
In post 30, DragonEater70 wrote: This game is boring

I claim mafia

VOTE: DragonEater70
Good thing the scum team are werewolves in this game!

You guys are too smart for your own good

Just vote me please

DragonEater70 · Post Post #36 (isolation #12) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:16 am

DragonEater70 · Post Post #40 (isolation #13) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:33 am

In post 37, Black wrote:
In post 27, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 25, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 13, Naerys wrote: As always, town
Imagine never rolling scum, like some kind of reverse gob situation
It's called being Alianna
Pshhh. Alianna cannot be trusted anymore

True

In post 39, Black wrote:
In post 13, Naerys wrote: As always, town
I'm actually townreading this a little

I think scum might be more likely to just say "I'm town" or something but the "as always" feels like it could maybe be legit exasperation

Me too tbh

DragonEater70 · Post Post #42 (isolation #14) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:40 am

What do you think about Black's alignment, Thomith?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #48 (isolation #15) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:05 am

Katsuki what exactly does your role do

DragonEater70 · Post Post #115 (isolation #16) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:40 am

In post 108, Thomith wrote:
In post 47, Naerys wrote: Thats basically scum confession
VOTE: Katsuki

In post 48, DragonEater70 wrote: Katsuki what exactly does your role do

In post 63, Gamma Emerald wrote: I think Katsuki’s claim deserves a closer glance
Not sure it’s real but it makes me look askance
These 3 posts about Katsukis claim make me want to keep an eye on these slots.
I feel like it was obvious the Juggernaut claim was a joke, and I do feel like it could be an easy opportunity for an opportunistic scum to jump on that.

Uh, what? I didn't even push Katsuki

DragonEater70 · Post Post #117 (isolation #17) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:41 am

In post 114, Katsuki wrote: I'm willing to give myself some more time to see where my Black read develops given player unfamiliarity.

Happier to push this one to a lynch.

UNVOTE, VOTE: DAVE

btw "lynch" is forbidden on this site now, you should use alternatives like "elimination" (or "lim" for short) or "execution" or whatever

DragonEater70 · Post Post #118 (isolation #18) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:42 am

In post 71, Black wrote: Hu's entrance feels forced and unnatural. I'm upgrading my RVS vote to a real one

You're voting me

DragonEater70 · Post Post #120 (isolation #19) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:44 am

In post 82, davesaz wrote: Thomith's mention of werewolves would have made my eyeballs go click but it's a reasonable guess given clues in the rules post.

Wdym?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #123 (isolation #20) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:46 am

In post 119, biancospino wrote:
Reminder that usage of the word "lynch" to refer to the Village's communal way of elimination is disallowed under site rules, due to its harsh racial history.

The official word is "elimination" (or lim for short), but you are free to use any flavorful substitution, like execution or yeet. I, generally and in this game, use "execution".

The mod is copying me! Let's execute the mod!

DragonEater70 · Post Post #125 (isolation #21) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:52 am

I'm liking Black's thought process so far. I think it's not totally out of her scum range but it does feel genuine and I feel okay townleaning her for now.

I don't fully see the Hu Tao scum read so I'm gonna try something different

VOTE: Gamma

DragonEater70 · Post Post #127 (isolation #22) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:53 am

In post 124, Naerys wrote:
In post 121, Thomith wrote:
In post 116, Naerys wrote:
In post 108, Thomith wrote:
In post 47, Naerys wrote: Thats basically scum confession
VOTE: Katsuki

In post 48, DragonEater70 wrote: Katsuki what exactly does your role do

In post 63, Gamma Emerald wrote: I think Katsuki’s claim deserves a closer glance
Not sure it’s real but it makes me look askance
These 3 posts about Katsukis claim make me want to keep an eye on these slots.
I feel like it was obvious the Juggernaut claim was a joke, and I do feel like it could be an easy opportunity for an opportunistic scum to jump on that.
This post actually makes me SR Thom.
VOTE: Thomith
Why?
The fact that juggernaut claim is joke can be obvious only to scum. Plus it feels like you felt a chance to put some shade on us

This feels like town!Naerys

DragonEater70 · Post Post #129 (isolation #23) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:56 am

You are correct about that, but I could see Thomith thinking that as town

DragonEater70 · Post Post #130 (isolation #24) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:57 am

I mean tbf he does say it was "obvious"

Eh I could see that this is probably slightly >rand scum

VOTE: Thomith

DragonEater70 · Post Post #134 (isolation #25) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 9:13 am

In post 131, camelCasedSnivy wrote: leave the poor dude alone

Vote Naerys

Snivy do you wanna /in for my marathon game starting soon?

viewtopic.php?t=92104

DragonEater70 · Post Post #135 (isolation #26) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 9:15 am

Also this is Townaerys Towngaryen

Please unvote thanks

DragonEater70 · Post Post #153 (isolation #27) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 10:02 am

In post 137, Thomith wrote:
In post 130, DragonEater70 wrote: I mean tbf he does say it was "obvious"

Eh I could see that this is probably slightly >rand scum

VOTE: Thomith
I felt like from the tone of the post it was quite obviously a joke, and secondly it literally says scum only on the wiki, which we are linked to in the opening posts, which is why I also was pretty sure it was a joke.

Hmmm sure

VOTE: Gamma

DragonEater70 · Post Post #154 (isolation #28) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 10:02 am

In post 142, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 125, DragonEater70 wrote: I'm liking Black's thought process so far. I think it's not totally out of her scum range but it does feel genuine and I feel okay townleaning her for now.

I don't fully see the Hu Tao scum read so I'm gonna try something different

VOTE: Gamma
What about her scumread on me do you not like?

I like the scumread, I just feel your response to it was fine I guess

DragonEater70 · Post Post #155 (isolation #29) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 10:04 am

In post 149, Black wrote:
In post 148, Naerys wrote:
In post 147, Black wrote: Well I'm 6-0 as scum so I think I'm pretty decent.
You are the Scum Queen after all.

I loved it when this was your profile pic

DragonEater70 · Post Post #187 (isolation #30) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 4:34 pm

In post 183, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 178, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 154, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 142, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 125, DragonEater70 wrote: I'm liking Black's thought process so far. I think it's not totally out of her scum range but it does feel genuine and I feel okay townleaning her for now.

I don't fully see the Hu Tao scum read so I'm gonna try something different

VOTE: Gamma
What about her scumread on me do you not like?
I like the scumread, I just feel your response to it was fine I guess
you're putting reads in my mouth, for that I'm displeased
refrain from doing it again or you may wind up deceased
I've not spoken a word about Hu Tao as of yet
so I don't see why that relates to the vote that I get
I think the vote on you was unrelated. He was talking about Black's initial scumread of me.

Yeah

DragonEater70 · Post Post #188 (isolation #31) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 4:34 pm

In post 157, Hu Tao wrote: VOTE: Dragon

This feels like scum dragon unfortunately.

Curious to hear why, I guess

DragonEater70 · Post Post #227 (isolation #32) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:59 am

In post 196, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 188, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 157, Hu Tao wrote: VOTE: Dragon

This feels like scum dragon unfortunately.
Curious to hear why, I guess
You just don't seem like your town self. And this response is pinging me for some reason.

Welp

I guess I can't help you with that

Anyhow do you have any other reads?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #228 (isolation #33) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:01 am

In post 202, KittyTacky wrote:
In post 70, davesaz wrote: Agree Katsuki's post is interesting.
Makes me think it's my first time witnessing a slip, after lecturing people for a couple months on how they don't happen.
Why is everyone so sure of this being a slip and not a joke claim.

Someone claiming an evil role within the first few pages is 99% of the time joking. I mean it could be a 1000000IQ play where they're telling the truth and passing it off as a joke, but really?

FWIW I was pretty sure Katsuki was joking but I asked them in case it was the 1% where they weren't joking

DragonEater70 · Post Post #229 (isolation #34) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:04 am

In post 208, KittyTacky wrote:
In post 127, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 124, Naerys wrote:
In post 121, Thomith wrote:
In post 116, Naerys wrote:
In post 108, Thomith wrote:
In post 47, Naerys wrote: Thats basically scum confession
VOTE: Katsuki

In post 48, DragonEater70 wrote: Katsuki what exactly does your role do

In post 63, Gamma Emerald wrote: I think Katsuki’s claim deserves a closer glance
Not sure it’s real but it makes me look askance
These 3 posts about Katsukis claim make me want to keep an eye on these slots.
I feel like it was obvious the Juggernaut claim was a joke, and I do feel like it could be an easy opportunity for an opportunistic scum to jump on that.
This post actually makes me SR Thom.
VOTE: Thomith
Why?
The fact that juggernaut claim is joke can be obvious only to scum. Plus it feels like you felt a chance to put some shade on us
This feels like town!Naerys
Why?

The thought process feels similar to thought processes I've seen from town!her in past games.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #230 (isolation #35) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:07 am

In post 228, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 202, KittyTacky wrote:
In post 70, davesaz wrote: Agree Katsuki's post is interesting.
Makes me think it's my first time witnessing a slip, after lecturing people for a couple months on how they don't happen.
Why is everyone so sure of this being a slip and not a joke claim.

Someone claiming an evil role within the first few pages is 99% of the time joking. I mean it could be a 1000000IQ play where they're telling the truth and passing it off as a joke, but really?
FWIW I was pretty sure Katsuki was joking but I asked them in case it was the 1% where they weren't joking

To clarify, I didn't think they were scum trueclaiming, but that maybe they misread their role (this being a biancospino setup, a role like "JuggernautFinder" is not at all unlikely).

DragonEater70 · Post Post #231 (isolation #36) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:12 am

In post 217, Hu Tao wrote: Off of tone I think kitty is town here

I agree

In post 218, Thomith wrote: The fact that I am getting so much heat for "TMI" knowing that Juggernaut was a scum only role, when we are linked to a page where ot says this, does make me think there is at least one scum pushing me for this as an easy vote (throwing TMI around is an easy way to get a wagon started imo).

I feel like theres a scum in DE70/Gamma Emerald/Naerys because of this.

I voted you for possibly TMI'ing it was a joke, not for TMI'ing that it's a scum only role

Is that a weak reason for a vote? Sure. Did I use it anyway? Yes, because it's early and I don't really have solid scumreads right now.

In post 219, KittyTacky wrote: And that scum is Naerys.

Nah.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #232 (isolation #37) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:13 am

In post 220, Black wrote: VOTE: Dragon

VOTE: Dragon

Let's go.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #234 (isolation #38) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:21 am

In post 233, Thomith wrote:
In post 228, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 202, KittyTacky wrote:
In post 70, davesaz wrote: Agree Katsuki's post is interesting.
Makes me think it's my first time witnessing a slip, after lecturing people for a couple months on how they don't happen.
Why is everyone so sure of this being a slip and not a joke claim.

Someone claiming an evil role within the first few pages is 99% of the time joking. I mean it could be a 1000000IQ play where they're telling the truth and passing it off as a joke, but really?
FWIW I was pretty sure Katsuki was joking but I asked them in case it was the 1% where they weren't joking
If you were also pretty sure Katsuki was joking, why are you suspecting me for TMI for also being pretty sure it was a joke?

I am not really, I literally told Naerys I thought she was wrong about it, but I could see a world where it was TMI and I decided to put a vote there just to see what happens

Your response was fine so I unvoted

DragonEater70 · Post Post #240 (isolation #39) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:08 am

In post 235, Black wrote:
In post 7, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 5, Naerys wrote: I rolled a dice and it told me that there is Dragonwolf in this game
VOTE: DragonEater70
Oh noooo how did you find me out so quickly

VOTE: DragonEater70

In post 30, DragonEater70 wrote: This game is boring

I claim mafia

VOTE: DragonEater70

In post 232, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 220, Black wrote: VOTE: Dragon
VOTE: Dragon

Let's go.
Why do you do this

If I told you, you wouldn't believe me

DragonEater70 · Post Post #259 (isolation #40) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:35 am

In post 241, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 235, Black wrote:
In post 7, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 5, Naerys wrote: I rolled a dice and it told me that there is Dragonwolf in this game
VOTE: DragonEater70
Oh noooo how did you find me out so quickly

VOTE: DragonEater70

In post 30, DragonEater70 wrote: This game is boring

I claim mafia

VOTE: DragonEater70

In post 232, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 220, Black wrote: VOTE: Dragon
VOTE: Dragon

Let's go.
Why do you do this
VOTE: Dragon

Bad vote

VOTE: Kyuoko

DragonEater70 · Post Post #260 (isolation #41) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:38 am

In post 257, Black wrote:
In post 240, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 235, Black wrote:
In post 7, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 5, Naerys wrote: I rolled a dice and it told me that there is Dragonwolf in this game
VOTE: DragonEater70
Oh noooo how did you find me out so quickly

VOTE: DragonEater70

In post 30, DragonEater70 wrote: This game is boring

I claim mafia

VOTE: DragonEater70

In post 232, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 220, Black wrote: VOTE: Dragon
VOTE: Dragon

Let's go.
Why do you do this
If I told you, you wouldn't believe me
Ok let's hear it anyway

I enjoy being wagoned early

I might be superstitious but I feel it helps me find scum better (especially when said scum is on my wagon)

Also I just hate being nullread by people. I feel a lot better being either scum read or townread.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #261 (isolation #42) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:39 am

In post 258, Gamma Emerald wrote: CCS is the the one I find more shady
He feels like 2317, but I’m not sure about Kitty

How does he feel like 2317?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #263 (isolation #43) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:49 am

Anyway

Let's all vote Kyouko here cause she's scum

DragonEater70 · Post Post #268 (isolation #44) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:56 am

In post 264, Black wrote:
In post 260, DragonEater70 wrote: I enjoy being wagoned early

I might be superstitious but I feel it helps me find scum better (especially when said scum is on my wagon)

Also I just hate being nullread by people. I feel a lot better being either scum read or townread.
I can't relate to any of this, but I don't think that means you're scum

What do your reads look like atm?

You, Naerys, Kitty town
Thomith slight townlean I guess
I wanna townread Hu Tao but I don't feel she's done enough AI stiff yet for me to actually justify it

Kyouko scumlean
Gamma nullscum (I am usually town pinged by town!Gamma, and I haven't been town pinged by any of her posts yet, so she could be scum, but I don't have a concrete reason to scumread her)

Everyone else null

DragonEater70 · Post Post #273 (isolation #45) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:00 am

In post 265, Thomith wrote:
In post 259, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 241, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 235, Black wrote:
In post 7, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 5, Naerys wrote: I rolled a dice and it told me that there is Dragonwolf in this game
VOTE: DragonEater70
Oh noooo how did you find me out so quickly

VOTE: DragonEater70

In post 30, DragonEater70 wrote: This game is boring

I claim mafia

VOTE: DragonEater70

In post 232, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 220, Black wrote: VOTE: Dragon
VOTE: Dragon

Let's go.
Why do you do this
VOTE: Dragon
Bad vote

VOTE: Kyuoko
Why is this a bad vote, compared to the other people that voted you?

I actually have no idea why Black voted me but I think it makes sense that she would be paranoid of me here

Hu Tao was gut pinged and I buy that

Kyouko is literally voting me for self voting???? That's like a pretty bad reason to vote someone (and yes I did it hoping to get voted, but I still think Kyouko is +scum for it)

DragonEater70 · Post Post #276 (isolation #46) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:01 am

In post 269, Naerys wrote: Plot twist: Dragon+Black are scum
hopefully thats not true

Still waiting for the day I roll scum with Black

It would be soooo fun

DragonEater70 · Post Post #280 (isolation #47) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:04 am

In post 274, Black wrote:
In post 268, DragonEater70 wrote: Everyone else null
Are you not getting anything out of Katsuki?

Not really? Should I be getting something out of them?

Like it feels they are just talking about past games and self-meta / playstyle

DragonEater70 · Post Post #281 (isolation #48) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:04 am

In post 279, Black wrote:
In post 276, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 269, Naerys wrote: Plot twist: Dragon+Black are scum
hopefully thats not true
Still waiting for the day I roll scum with Black

It would be soooo fun

What does this mean

DragonEater70 · Post Post #283 (isolation #49) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:05 am

In post 278, Naerys wrote:
In post 276, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 269, Naerys wrote: Plot twist: Dragon+Black are scum
hopefully thats not true
Still waiting for the day I roll scum with Black

It would be soooo fun
Please no, i want atleast some chance to win

Don't worry you can be the third scum

DragonEater70 · Post Post #285 (isolation #50) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:05 am

In post 277, Black wrote:
In post 273, DragonEater70 wrote: I actually have no idea why Black voted me but I think it makes sense that she would be paranoid of me here
I like early wagons and I wanted to see how you would respond to it

Fair fair

DragonEater70 · Post Post #289 (isolation #51) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:06 am

In post 284, Black wrote:
In post 280, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 274, Black wrote:
In post 268, DragonEater70 wrote: Everyone else null
Are you not getting anything out of Katsuki?
Not really? Should I be getting something out of them?

Like it feels they are just talking about past games and self-meta / playstyle
Eh, not particularly. Just wanted to see where your head was at with them

Okay let me have a look at them quick

DragonEater70 · Post Post #293 (isolation #52) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:10 am

@Katsuki, is your top scumread davesaz currently? And is that based just on him claiming not to have a background with you even though je should have, or is there more to it?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #295 (isolation #53) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:11 am

In post 287, Black wrote:
In post 281, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 279, Black wrote:
In post 276, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 269, Naerys wrote: Plot twist: Dragon+Black are scum
hopefully thats not true
Still waiting for the day I roll scum with Black

It would be soooo fun

What does this mean
It's a fusion of Dragonair and Umbreon

Ooooooohhhhhh!

That's cute

DragonEater70 · Post Post #297 (isolation #54) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:12 am

In post 292, Thomith wrote:
In post 283, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 278, Naerys wrote:
In post 276, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 269, Naerys wrote: Plot twist: Dragon+Black are scum
hopefully thats not true
Still waiting for the day I roll scum with Black

It would be soooo fun
Please no, i want atleast some chance to win
Don't worry you can be the third scum
Dragon just spewed the entire scum team

*furiously scribbles notes*

This townpinged me

DragonEater70 · Post Post #299 (isolation #55) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:17 am

Alright

I'll probably call it an early night

Cya all tmrw

DragonEater70 · Post Post #308 (isolation #56) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:31 am

In post 306, Katsuki wrote:
In post 293, DragonEater70 wrote: @Katsuki, is your top scumread davesaz currently? And is that based just on him claiming not to have a background with you even though je should have, or is there more to it?
I'm at a point where I'm quite content to sit back and see how things play out. I'm also somewhat rusty and mishandled my posting regarding dave so kinda gave him an easy out of any potential pressure. Rushed my posting and gave him the chance to use the convenient excuse of
"oh I forgot"
. The rest of his posting has been underwhelming and given me no reason to not trust my gut for now.

There is one player I'd be happy to see nom'ed today, but with the current game state there's no realistic chance of me getting support for their nom today so in the meantime I'm just going to chill until flips hopefully go my way to enable me to nail a wagon onto them.

Is that player Black?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #347 (isolation #57) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:01 pm

I don't get what's the slip up thing is about?

I was pretty sure Katsuki wasn't claiming Juggernaut for real, because that would be silly, but I also thought their post didn't really look like a joke post (maybe I'm too used to the overdone humor of gen z or something), and I thought maybe they were claiming a different role, so I decided to ask them about it. Then Naerys said you TMI'd, I said I don't think so, but then I actually reread your post and I thought that there was SOME SLIGHT CHANCE that the way you phrased it could indicate TMI, so I voted you. Then I thought your explanation was fine and it wasn't TMI, so I unvoted.

Where's the inconsistency here? I don't see it.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #348 (isolation #58) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:11 pm

Also

Are we just gonna ignore how Kyouko jumped on my wagon with a practically naked vote, and her other engagement with the game could be summed up by a bunch of nothing posts and then overexplaining why Hu Tao is town for scumreading Thomith?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #371 (isolation #59) » Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:00 pm

Woah, is that Black on alcohol? Kinda cute if I say so myself

Also I'm going to locktown these posts and hope I don't regret it later

DragonEater70 · Post Post #372 (isolation #60) » Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:02 pm

In post 350, biancospino wrote:
votecount
Votecount 1-X

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to hammer, or 6 to decide for no execution.

Naerys (3):
camelCasedSnivy, KittyTacky, Katsuki

DragonEater70 (3):
Hu Tao, ssbm_Kyouko, Thomith

Thomith (2):
Naerys, Gamma Emerald

ssbm_Kyouko (2):
DragonEater70, Black

Not Voting (2):
davesaz, Celebloki

notes

The deadline is due in (expired on 2024-01-06 07:46:06).

You can find the combined mod ISO here

Celebloki is V/LA 'till 01/JAN

Anyway, looking at the VC I kinda think there's one scum on me and one on Naerys?

The one on me being Kyouko probably, and I have no clue who would be the scum on Naerys.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #373 (isolation #61) » Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:02 pm

Any thoughts on that, Black?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #375 (isolation #62) » Sun Dec 31, 2023 9:01 pm

It's just a guess but basically, you have 2 wagons on town that are equally split, it makes sense to me that there would be scum on both.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #377 (isolation #63) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 3:08 am

:shrug:

What do ypu thonk about Kyouko's vote on me? And what do you think about the votes on Naerys?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #380 (isolation #64) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 3:59 am

In post 378, Thomith wrote: I feel like I'll need to see Kyoukos reasoning for the vote after being questioned for it to fully form an opinion, but I could see it just being a reaction to you continuing to vote yourself (I believe the baked vote was done before you explained that you like being Wagoned early?)

It will fully depend on how she responds to the question of the naked vote though.

Okay so assuming it is a reaction to voting myself, what do you think about the vote?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #428 (isolation #65) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 7:06 pm

In post 405, Katsuki wrote:
In post 380, DragonEater70 wrote: Okay so assuming it is a reaction to voting myself, what do you think about the vote?

Do you have any thoughts on the game outside of your wagon that you tried to drag us back to RVS with after we had already managed to swiftly progress past that stage?

Yes, and I believe I voiced them already.

But anyway I'm TRing Black, Naerys, Hu Tao and also Kitty and Gamma a bit.

I was TRing Thomith earlier but I don't love his recent posts, they kinda feel like he's stumbling over his own words in an effort to explain things, which I don't think I've seen town!Thomith see before. I also dislike his focus on me and the fact that he doesn't feel like he wants to engage with other areas of the game yet. Like if he's scum he probably feels safe on my wagon and isn't sure how to play the around switching a vote. Overall nullscum.

I also think Kyo's vote on and approach to my slot is pretty scummy. Like she voted me for apparently self-voting, people asked her of that's the reason and she didn't answer. Now that she' s back in the thread she says she "vibes with" my explanation of the self vote but kept the vote on me with no further commemt.

I think there's definitely scum in those 2.

Then I believe I also said I think there's scum on Naerys wagon? I think Naerys is decently towny and I don't get the votes there at all. I guess my mindmeld with Gamma on that is mostly why I TR Gamma.
You didn't give any reasoning, as far as I can tell, for that vote, which isn't necessarily scummy but isn't very towny either. Kitty is towny for other reasons and I guess I believe his thought on Naerys, even though I disagree with it, so I don't think it's him. Snivy I barely have an impression of this game. I guess he could easily be scum.

I haven't read Black's case on dave yet but I think he could be scum since he hasn't been doing anything this game.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #431 (isolation #66) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 7:38 pm

In post 407, Black wrote: It's hard to describe but Dave's iso just feels a little... stiff

It feels like he's trying to be careful or something

I don't like his initial reaction to Katsuki's juggernaut claim (70) and I think him being so easily open to the idea of finally witnessing a slip doesn't mesh with his opinion that slips never happen in 213

I'm not a big fan of him asking me a question in 97 and then not following up with my answer

I think a lot of his posts feel like filler posts or ways to seem busy without actually solving much. There's a little bit of solving in 316 but these are just blanket statements that scum could easily come up with. His Gamma train of thought from this post has gone no where and he doesn't seem to have any interest digging further, and then the Naerys/Hu takes both give off the vibe that dave needs to reread or look further but I get the feeling he is just going to leave these reads hanging

His mentioning of hating self votes a couple of times (251, 399) just feels a little performative imo

Hmm I could see the Dave scumread. Don't feel too strongly on it though.

I think if nobody joins me on Kyo or Thomith, I'd vote Dave just to get a wagon going.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #432 (isolation #67) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 7:39 pm

In post 430, Thomith wrote: The main thing that pings me, because scum used to do this a LOT when I last played, is people pointing out things that are weird but not necessarily scummy, that could lead to easy wagons.

It's why I didn't like people focusing on the Juggernaut claim.

I also don't like Dave focusing so much on Gamma rhyming, because it feels like a similar situation.

But I haven't done that and I haven't even "focus" on that claim. I literally asked a question and moved on.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #433 (isolation #68) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 7:40 pm

Actually

VOTE: Thomith

DragonEater70 · Post Post #460 (isolation #69) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:26 am

In post 434, Thomith wrote: It genuinely feels like you're just jumping where the wagons are to see what sticks, which is screaming being very opportunistic to me.

Granted, I could be tunelled and you're doing this to create pressure, but the reason I'm unsure of this is because you are also claiming you're willing to vote elsewhere, not fully committing to a push.

You asked a question, then jumped on me even though you were thinking pretty much the same thing regarding the claim, then seemed to backtrack when you said that you had the same reasoning, which is what properly pinged me about your slot.

You're saying I'm scum that doesn't know how to jump off your wagon without looking weird, but I already have a tonne of heat on me, so if I was scum, why would I continue to push the points that got me heat in the first place?

Idk why

I just feel your posting is a lot more awkward compared to Micro 1094 and Open 893. You sounded a lot more confident and light hearted in those games than here.

Here your tone feels like you aren't really sure of what you are saying and you are looking for reasons to justify it / prove it, rather than you genuinely believe it.

I also don't buy that you actually think it's scummy to change my mind on you.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #461 (isolation #70) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:30 am

In post 441, Black wrote: That seems like a pretty weak thing to latch on to

Dragon's response in particular feels like he was trying to get more out of Katsuki to gauge how serious her claim was. It doesn't look like he jumped on her at all

I think Dragon could be scum for other reasons but I'm not really seeing this as +scum for him

Yeah

DragonEater70 · Post Post #463 (isolation #71) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:35 am

In post 448, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 428, DragonEater70 wrote: I also think Kyo's vote on and approach to my slot is pretty scummy. Like she voted me for apparently self-voting, people asked her of that's the reason and she didn't answer. Now that she' s back in the thread she says she "vibes with" my explanation of the self vote but kept the vote on me with no further commemt.
This doesn't feel like an accurate representation to me...

"Like she voted me for apparently self-voting":

This is a partial truth. The whole truth, as I've already explained, is that I think you're self-voting to break up wagons forming on yourself, despite your claims that you're trying to build wagons on yourself to catch scum on them.

"people asked her of that's the reason and she didn't answer":

Nobody asked me why I voted you. I'm double checking now, and the closest anyone came to asking was Thomith when he assumed I had been asked why I voted you in 378. To this point, still nobody has asked me, though I've already given my reason.

"Now that she' s back in the thread she says she "vibes with" my explanation of the self vote but kept the vote on me with no further comment":

In post 390, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 260, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 257, Black wrote:
snipped, and [edited] below

Ok let's hear [why you self vote] anyway
I enjoy being wagoned early

I might be superstitious but I feel it helps me find scum better (especially when said scum is on my wagon)

Also I just hate being nullread by people. I feel a lot better being either scum read or townread.
I kinda vibe with this - I dont enjoy being wagoned early or at all, but I do tend to find the scum on my wagons when they happen.

I think voting yourself is kinda counterintuitive to this though - it's only going to scare people away usually, not build the wagon. Which is why it's sus you did it twice
When I say "I
kinda
vibe with this", emphasis on the kinda, I'm saying I partially agree with how you feel about being wagoned - because being wagoned helps me find scum better. The problem with this though, is that voting yourself is not conducive to getting a wagon going on yourself where you'll be able to identify the scum on your wagon. I think the real reason you're voting yourself here when wagoned, is to discourage any more votes coming your way. Furthermore, if you really were trying to build up your own wagon to find the scum on it, I would expect a more convincing read than this (combined with the snippet of 480 I'm breaking down now):
In post 348, DragonEater70 wrote: Also

Are we just gonna ignore how Kyouko jumped on my wagon with a practically naked vote, and her other engagement with the game could be summed up by a bunch of nothing posts and then overexplaining why Hu Tao is town for scumreading Thomith?
tl;dr - Dragon is generalizing my posts and ignoring the details where it's convenient for his faked scumread on me

A bunch of technicalities. I was referring to Thomith when I said somebody had asked you about your vote. I didn't see an actual explanation earlier, but I guess now I understand what you meant by the self vote thing. I am not going to say that it works every time but I have definitely self-voted before (as town) and then got hammered. So I don't really think it scares anyone off.

Also how generalizing = fake scumread?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #464 (isolation #72) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:36 am

In post 442, Black wrote: If I had to guess I would say Dragon/Thomith is TvT

Oh, why?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #468 (isolation #73) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:16 am

Didn't you just say I was probably scum

Or am I misunderstanding you

DragonEater70 · Post Post #471 (isolation #74) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:35 am

In post 469, Black wrote: I think you are misunderstanding me. I said you could be scum but right now I feel like you're probably town

Oh okay then

Should I just sheep you on std

By which I mean ccs

DragonEater70 · Post Post #498 (isolation #75) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 11:10 am

In post 481, Thomith wrote:
In post 460, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 434, Thomith wrote: It genuinely feels like you're just jumping where the wagons are to see what sticks, which is screaming being very opportunistic to me.

Granted, I could be tunelled and you're doing this to create pressure, but the reason I'm unsure of this is because you are also claiming you're willing to vote elsewhere, not fully committing to a push.

You asked a question, then jumped on me even though you were thinking pretty much the same thing regarding the claim, then seemed to backtrack when you said that you had the same reasoning, which is what properly pinged me about your slot.

You're saying I'm scum that doesn't know how to jump off your wagon without looking weird, but I already have a tonne of heat on me, so if I was scum, why would I continue to push the points that got me heat in the first place?
Idk why

I just feel your posting is a lot more awkward compared to Micro 1094 and Open 893. You sounded a lot more confident and light hearted in those games than here.

Here your tone feels like you aren't really sure of what you are saying and you are looking for reasons to justify it / prove it, rather than you genuinely believe it.

I also don't buy that you actually think it's scummy to change my mind on you.
I was typing out a response to this but during it I realised I think I'm just tunelled, because I found myself disagreeing with the reasons I was writing.

UNVOTE:

I need to reassess.

Okay that sounds believable

In post 482, Black wrote: ^ this feels like a town post

I actually agree!

In post 480, Black wrote:
In post 471, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 469, Black wrote: I think you are misunderstanding me. I said you could be scum but right now I feel like you're probably town
Oh okay then

Should I just sheep you on std

By which I mean ccs
I'm not super confident but after narrowing down the PoE based on who I think is most likely to be town, I think CCS is a good fade

VOTE: Snivy
I'll sheep

DragonEater70 · Post Post #499 (isolation #76) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 11:11 am

Goodnight!

DragonEater70 · Post Post #568 (isolation #77) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:01 am

In post 549, Black wrote:
In post 544, Thomith wrote: I feel like after you stopped pushing me, you haven't done a huge amount solving wise
I'm feeling this too. And then right after you said this we get "solving" in the next 3 posts but it just feels half-baked and there's not much effort there

CCS isn't really convincing me he's town but I wouldn't mind pivoting to Naerys

I don't really think that's scummy of Naerys

But I do admit that this type of solving is somewhat unusual for her.

Hmm

@Naerys, do you think ccs is likelier to flip scum or not? And why do you think scum aren't likely to be bussing?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #570 (isolation #78) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:04 am

In post 552, Katsuki wrote:
In post 518, Gamma Emerald wrote: Most of CCS’ new posts don’t sway me from the cause
But the reaction to the wagon formation gives me pause
Aight re-read this today without a heavy head this time and I think I get what you're saying here. Still would like for you to clarify my question from last night just to make sure we're on the same page because it matters to me that I get the right interpretation.

In post 554, Katsuki wrote: Ok thanks we are seeing the same thing then. Yeah would like to see more from Snivy too but not holding my breath on anything useful from him.

Do you have an independent read on Snivy / thoughts on the wagon?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #573 (isolation #79) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:07 am

In post 569, Naerys wrote:
In post 568, DragonEater70 wrote: And why do you think scum aren't likely to be bussing?
The speed of the wagon. Makes me think that if scum!snivy then there is only one bussing partner

Sure, I think usually in these situations there's one bussing. But you are saying that we should look totally outside the wagon if flips scum. Do you think everyone on the wagon is likely town? Because I thought you were scumreading both Gamma and Dave. Or are you just saying things because they sound like what Flavor Leaf would say here?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #574 (isolation #80) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:07 am

Sorry that's probably mean

DragonEater70 · Post Post #575 (isolation #81) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:09 am

In post 567, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: @Naerys - Why are me and Hu Tao wrong on Dragon?

I don't think dave and Gamma are s/s. I think Dave is town - looking at his ISO, Dave looks to be genuinely sorting Gamma. I'm not sure why he's rhyming along with Gamma, my guess is it's just for fun, but there's an indication that it might be some sort of bait. I think pointing out that Gamma might be avoiding being tone-read by 2 people in this game at least refers to me as one of the 2 people, maybe the other is dave himself? Regardless, I don't think Gamma is rhyming to avoid being tone-read by me at least. I can only tone-read very specific posts of hers and she can just not post them at all if she's scum, though I suspect that is hard for Gamma to do in some cases.

Do you have like an actual real read on Gamma? Aren't you supposed to be really good at reading her?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #578 (isolation #82) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:10 am

In post 571, Naerys wrote:
In post 568, DragonEater70 wrote: @Naerys, do you think ccs is likelier to flip scum or not?
I hate this kind of question, especially when you are asking me about person that is very unreadable to me. I dont know, dragon. But his flip gives plenty of info.

Okay

Would you wanna wagon Gamma/dave instead?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #579 (isolation #83) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:11 am

In post 576, Naerys wrote: What? I am saying what my gut feels, nothing less and nothing more

Yeah sorry that was really mean of me

DragonEater70 · Post Post #587 (isolation #84) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:14 am

Okay

I just realized you are on Katsuki and not Snivy

Pedit: so you DO want Snivy?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #588 (isolation #85) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:14 am

In post 586, Naerys wrote:
In post 575, DragonEater70 wrote: Do you have like an actual real read on Gamma? Aren't you supposed to be really good at reading her?
This Gamma is pretty unreadable to me.

That was aimed at Kyo

DragonEater70 · Post Post #589 (isolation #86) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:16 am

Basically Naerys my confusion is

You are voting Katsuki, saying you are scumreading Gamma/dave, but you want Snivy limmed.

Can you walk me through this

DragonEater70 · Post Post #594 (isolation #87) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:28 am

In post 590, Black wrote: I think Naerys wanting to flip a null read over her scumreads indicates that she doesn't really care who is faded. The argument that a Snivy flip gives us a lot of info doesn't check out either considering he's one of the least active slots in the game

Yeah

That's what I also feel

I just can't bring myself to scumread Naerys though

Pedit: okay but do you actually scumread Kat or is this just a joke
And why don't you want to vote your SR's
And why do you think it'd be good to lim yourself

DragonEater70 · Post Post #595 (isolation #88) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:29 am

In post 592, Katsuki wrote:
In post 570, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 552, Katsuki wrote:
In post 518, Gamma Emerald wrote: Most of CCS’ new posts don’t sway me from the cause
But the reaction to the wagon formation gives me pause
Aight re-read this today without a heavy head this time and I think I get what you're saying here. Still would like for you to clarify my question from last night just to make sure we're on the same page because it matters to me that I get the right interpretation.

In post 554, Katsuki wrote: Ok thanks we are seeing the same thing then. Yeah would like to see more from Snivy too but not holding my breath on anything useful from him.
Do you have an independent read on Snivy / thoughts on the wagon?
I do. Wasn't feeling well enough yesterday to post it so it'll be written up sometime later today hopefully.

Oki

DragonEater70 · Post Post #596 (isolation #89) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:30 am

Naerys wtf are you doing

If you are scum you should fight

If you are town you should fight even harder

DragonEater70 · Post Post #606 (isolation #90) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:54 am

In post 603, Naerys wrote:
In post 596, DragonEater70 wrote: Naerys wtf are you doing

If you are scum you should fight

If you are town you should fight even harder
I have a plan.

I... believe you

It just sounds like a pretty silly plan

Which is kinda hypocritical coming from a person who's plans often include self voting and being intentionally scummy

DragonEater70 · Post Post #607 (isolation #91) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:54 am

So anyway

Idk what's your plan but okay let's see it

DragonEater70 · Post Post #734 (isolation #92) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:35 pm

In post 627, davesaz wrote:
In post 590, Black wrote: I think Naerys wanting to flip a null read over her scumreads indicates that she doesn't really care who is faded. The argument that a Snivy flip gives us a lot of info doesn't check out either considering he's one of the least active slots in the game

In post 591, Naerys wrote:
In post 589, DragonEater70 wrote: Basically Naerys my confusion is

You are voting Katsuki, saying you are scumreading Gamma/dave, but you want Snivy limmed.

Can you walk me through this
I parked my vote on Katsuki bcz of that ugly picture.
Gamme/dave was a gut feeling i had at a certain point
i wanted Snivy limmed bcz it would give decent info
now i think its better to lim me, only claim scum will get from me is "vanilla" tho

In post 603, Naerys wrote:
In post 596, DragonEater70 wrote: Naerys wtf are you doing

If you are scum you should fight

If you are town you should fight even harder
I have a plan.
Two things come to mind here.
If Naerys is town vengeful hoping to bait scum, I think her reads are more likely to lose us another town. It's hard to tell given my reads aren't all that strong, but just a bad feeling here.
It's also possible she's scum with cCS and with a less valuable role.

I was also thinking she's vengeful, but why ever would you say that out loud???

DragonEater70 · Post Post #738 (isolation #93) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:37 am

In post 736, KittyTacky wrote:
In post 724, JacksonVirgo wrote: Has anybody played with Dragon before?
Yes but (and I mean no offense) they seem a bit like a generic player... it's not that I can't read them, I just have no idea about the meta.

The hell does that mean? Like not offense-wise, but there's literally no player on this site whose playstyle I cannot characterize as idiosyncratic in some way.

Also I've accidentally become Not_Mafia and will insta hammer any wagon that gets E-1.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #739 (isolation #94) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:37 am

Also I will catch up later on the last few pages

DragonEater70 · Post Post #742 (isolation #95) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:55 am

Blame Katsuki.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #777 (isolation #96) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 6:21 am

In post 743, Black wrote:
In post 742, DragonEater70 wrote: Blame Katsuki.

What are your thoughts on Jackson and Katsuki thinking we could be scum together?

Hm

Tell ya what, associations wise I could see it, cause we didn't really do anything anti-partnery this game (I'm not counting me saying "still waiting to be scum with Black).

But like, I don't really think that makes us scum? I felt you were pretty towny, I feel I'm pretty towny, so there's no real reason to scumread us.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #779 (isolation #97) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 6:27 am

In post 737, biancospino wrote:
votecount (UNCHANGED)
Votecount 1-XX

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to hammer, or 6 to decide for no execution.

camelCasedSnivy (4)
: Gamma Emerald, Thomith, DragonEater70, davesaz

DragonEater70 (3):
Hu Tao, ssbm_Kyouko, Katsuki

Naerys (2):
camelCasedSnivy, KittyTacky

Thomith (2):
JacksonVirgo, Black

Katsuki (1):
Naerys

notes

The deadline is due in (expired on 2024-01-07 07:46:06).

You can find the combined mod ISO here

Wait what

Since when is Black scumreading Thomith

Uhhhh let me catch up real.quick.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #780 (isolation #98) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 6:28 am

And when I say realquick I mean it will probably take the better part of an hour

DragonEater70 · Post Post #781 (isolation #99) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 6:28 am

Jesus every time I see my avatar I cringe

DragonEater70 · Post Post #782 (isolation #100) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 6:29 am

In post 611, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 575, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 567, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: @Naerys - Why are me and Hu Tao wrong on Dragon?

I don't think dave and Gamma are s/s. I think Dave is town - looking at his ISO, Dave looks to be genuinely sorting Gamma. I'm not sure why he's rhyming along with Gamma, my guess is it's just for fun, but there's an indication that it might be some sort of bait. I think pointing out that Gamma might be avoiding being tone-read by 2 people in this game at least refers to me as one of the 2 people, maybe the other is dave himself? Regardless, I don't think Gamma is rhyming to avoid being tone-read by me at least. I can only tone-read very specific posts of hers and she can just not post them at all if she's scum, though I suspect that is hard for Gamma to do in some cases.
Do you have like an actual real read on Gamma? Aren't you supposed to be really good at reading her?
Not yet no, I usually skim her early posting unless she's asking me direct questions because I can usually rely on her to at some point post something that pings me if she is scum. If the game goes long enough without me getting pinged I'll go back through her ISO and I should be able to read her from there - the less I interact with her now the less poisoned my read will be later. I've found I'm good at just reading a Gamma ISO without being in the game and guessing correctly on Town or Scum if I have enough to read.

Do you have a read on GE yet?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #783 (isolation #101) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 6:31 am

In post 623, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 621, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 619, JacksonVirgo wrote: As it stands now, Thom/Black look the worst and Hu Tao looks the best
Why do I look the best?
Because you're undeniably yourself, you read natural. You read like you're saying what comes in your head right as it comes in, without stopping to think about how you would look. Things like this, just pure.

I agree on HT.

Why do you SR Black?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #784 (isolation #102) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 6:32 am

In post 633, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 626, Black wrote: It was moreso the manner in which the reads came. Thomith was asked about specific reads and he didn't shy away from the questions. Like Hu straight up asked him if he thinks she's scummy and he was like "yeah you could be scum." I just think scum probably want to avoid butting heads like that early. And I think it would be a lot easier for scum to toe the line instead of taking solid stances like he did when he townread me
I hear you, I did think it was incredibly unlikely to be how I understood it. I think I do disagree that scum would avoid taking solid stances.

Then why did you say it instead of questioning it?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #790 (isolation #103) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 6:59 am

In post 637, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 631, Black wrote: Maybe you're just bad at reading me but I'm not sure how you could think this about Hu and then say that I look the worst? I've been doing nothing but saying what comes to my mind all game
What about you would mean I should be obligated to have the same viewpoint on? You are different people, you have taken to this game in different ways. The reason I thought you to be the lowest just above Thom was because I didn't understand how you came to the conclusions you had. I usually can follow the logic even for people I think are wolfy and are flat out wrong but I just straight up did not see the base of the reads you made

Towny post

In post 638, Black wrote:
In post 634, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 629, Black wrote: Scum tend to shade people for bad reasons and I definitely got that vibe from Naerys's comment. I don't think it makes sense for this to look bad to you
The bad look is the speed at which you switched on her, surface level looks pretty awful and I was meaning to look back over that interaction when I had fresh eyes as that point in the game my eyes skimmed too much
I've been feeling worse and worse about Naerys as the game has progressed and you can track that in my ISO. The random shade on me and the strange reads finally convinced me to vote there

I don't think it's scum indicative for Naerys to shade people for bad reasons. It's just Naerys-indicative.

In post 641, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 638, Black wrote: I've been feeling worse and worse about Naerys as the game has progressed and you can track that in my ISO. The random shade on me and the strange reads finally convinced me to vote there
I can understand this, humouring your read there's a few posts that have caught me a little off guard about Naerys but I disregarded purely because it feels like a personality thing and I tend to always scum-read Naerys in like every single game without fail.

When have you played with Naerys? Just curious.
But I also think it's a personality thing.

In post 647, KittyTacky wrote:
In post 453, Black wrote: It's interesting that we have 3 wagons at 3 votes each. I don't think fading any of the 3 would be super likely to hit scum but if I had to compromise on one then it would probably be Naerys

I'm more inclined to believe that scum are just hanging out and they're perfectly fine with the game state. CCS fits the bill here
I still think Naerys is scummy.

Quoting mainly for the post inside Kitty's quote, I actually think this also describes the gamedtate right now. Like it feels scum are just sitting on their hands and letting us bicker.

In post 659, JacksonVirgo wrote: That being said I do think Thom is wolfy, especially regarding that part I spoke about regarding not wanting somebody to town-read another too easily

VOTE: Thom

Why?

In post 665, camelCasedSnivy wrote:
In post 654, KittyTacky wrote:
In post 516, camelCasedSnivy wrote: people i have absolutely no clue on: {ssbm_Kyuoko, KittyTacky, Gamma Emerald, Hu Tao}
and people i would gladly vote are just {Naerys, davesaz, camelCasedSnivy}
Concrete read:

I think saying "haha I'd vote myself" is very performative. It's a very forced way of saying "look I'm town I don't care if people vote me!"
i know it looks really bad after doing this in a scum game but i do this every game promise

Lies! There was a town game where I asked you to do this to prove you were town and you townread yourself IIRC.

In post 666, Black wrote: VOTE: Thom

I want to explore this

I also wanna know your thoughts behind this.

In post 668, camelCasedSnivy wrote: also i was going fuck yeah on the naerys wagon and then the bland thomith wagon comes along. I'm not as opposed to it this time around but we can do better (and i probably still wont vote thomith)

also how are people getting town vibes from dragoneater?? seriously???

Why are you even shading me? I thought I wasn't in your scums list.

In post 673, Black wrote:
In post 669, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 666, Black wrote: VOTE: Thom

I want to explore this
About this, I know you said that you could see scum!thom in a response to a thing I said but weren't you about town!thom like the entire game before that moment?

In post 670, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 384, Black wrote: I think Thomith, Hu, and Gamma are probably the most likely to be town. I like the solving energy out of this group
This + the whole dragon/thom being TvT thing. Plus the early game argument that I didn't understand. Etc etc
Yep. My reads are generally super fluid on D1. Plus I have a theory and I think wagoning Thom will help me decide if I could be right or not. That's all I really want to say about it atm

I'm now REALLY curious.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #791 (isolation #104) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 7:00 am

I think scum is in Katsuki/Kyoko/dave/Gamma

There's probably also a deepwolf but I'll find them later

VOTE: Katsuki

DragonEater70 · Post Post #792 (isolation #105) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 7:01 am

In post 788, Naerys wrote: 1) i am not vengeful
2) DRAGON WHAT HAVE YOU DONE

Why are you blaming me for people vengeful reading you

DragonEater70 · Post Post #794 (isolation #106) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 7:03 am

In post 787, Katsuki wrote:
In post 781, DragonEater70 wrote: Jesus every time I see my avatar I cringe
its cute. We could've been friends if didn't have fangs and ears this game.

So
A. I initially read this as a scumclaim
B. Even if you scumread me, why can't we be friends? Alignment in a game of mafia has nothing to do with how cool a person is outside of the game. I've definitely (or at least tried to) befriend people as opposite alignment.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #795 (isolation #107) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 7:04 am

In post 793, Naerys wrote: I am blaming you for that avatar!!!
AAAAAH how can i unsee that

Oh my god relax, it's literally a cow

If you prefer I can change to the dead dragonair Katsuki posted.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #797 (isolation #108) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 7:09 am

Okay

Tell you what

Find me a really cute pokemon avatar and I'll change to it

DragonEater70 · Post Post #804 (isolation #109) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 7:14 am

In post 785, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 782, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 611, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 575, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 567, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: @Naerys - Why are me and Hu Tao wrong on Dragon?

I don't think dave and Gamma are s/s. I think Dave is town - looking at his ISO, Dave looks to be genuinely sorting Gamma. I'm not sure why he's rhyming along with Gamma, my guess is it's just for fun, but there's an indication that it might be some sort of bait. I think pointing out that Gamma might be avoiding being tone-read by 2 people in this game at least refers to me as one of the 2 people, maybe the other is dave himself? Regardless, I don't think Gamma is rhyming to avoid being tone-read by me at least. I can only tone-read very specific posts of hers and she can just not post them at all if she's scum, though I suspect that is hard for Gamma to do in some cases.
Do you have like an actual real read on Gamma? Aren't you supposed to be really good at reading her?
Not yet no, I usually skim her early posting unless she's asking me direct questions because I can usually rely on her to at some point post something that pings me if she is scum. If the game goes long enough without me getting pinged I'll go back through her ISO and I should be able to read her from there - the less I interact with her now the less poisoned my read will be later. I've found I'm good at just reading a Gamma ISO without being in the game and guessing correctly on Town or Scum if I have enough to read.
Do you have a read on GE yet?
no and I probably won't until toMorrow unless she says something that pings me

Do you not think that's scum indicative for her? I just exoect to be town pinged by her but I am not.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #808 (isolation #110) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 7:16 am

In post 803, Katsuki wrote:
In post 794, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 787, Katsuki wrote:
In post 781, DragonEater70 wrote: Jesus every time I see my avatar I cringe
its cute. We could've been friends if didn't have fangs and ears this game.
So
A. I initially read this as a scumclaim
B. Even if you scumread me, why can't we be friends? Alignment in a game of mafia has nothing to do with how cool a person is outside of the game. I've definitely (or at least tried to) befriend people as opposite alignment.
I left out the word 'you' LOL.
Fine we can be friends even if you have fangs and fuzzy ears if that makes you happier. I'll remember you fondly when wearing your pelt coat.

I aporeciate this

Remember, in Werewolf, friends are for eating.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #852 (isolation #111) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:50 am

In post 810, davesaz wrote:
In post 804, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 785, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 782, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 611, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 575, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 567, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: @Naerys - Why are me and Hu Tao wrong on Dragon?

I don't think dave and Gamma are s/s. I think Dave is town - looking at his ISO, Dave looks to be genuinely sorting Gamma. I'm not sure why he's rhyming along with Gamma, my guess is it's just for fun, but there's an indication that it might be some sort of bait. I think pointing out that Gamma might be avoiding being tone-read by 2 people in this game at least refers to me as one of the 2 people, maybe the other is dave himself? Regardless, I don't think Gamma is rhyming to avoid being tone-read by me at least. I can only tone-read very specific posts of hers and she can just not post them at all if she's scum, though I suspect that is hard for Gamma to do in some cases.
Do you have like an actual real read on Gamma? Aren't you supposed to be really good at reading her?
Not yet no, I usually skim her early posting unless she's asking me direct questions because I can usually rely on her to at some point post something that pings me if she is scum. If the game goes long enough without me getting pinged I'll go back through her ISO and I should be able to read her from there - the less I interact with her now the less poisoned my read will be later. I've found I'm good at just reading a Gamma ISO without being in the game and guessing correctly on Town or Scum if I have enough to read.
Do you have a read on GE yet?
no and I probably won't until toMorrow unless she says something that pings me
Do you not think that's scum indicative for her? I just exoect to be town pinged by her but I am not.
I actually like quite a few Gamma posts, once I re-translate the rhyme back into what the regular post would say.

Which ones?

In post 811, Naerys wrote: to dragon:
https://ibb.co/Wpmh4Vm

Thanks! I used this for like 5 minutes but then decided to try something different for a change.

In post 816, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 784, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 633, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 626, Black wrote: It was moreso the manner in which the reads came. Thomith was asked about specific reads and he didn't shy away from the questions. Like Hu straight up asked him if he thinks she's scummy and he was like "yeah you could be scum." I just think scum probably want to avoid butting heads like that early. And I think it would be a lot easier for scum to toe the line instead of taking solid stances like he did when he townread me
I hear you, I did think it was incredibly unlikely to be how I understood it. I think I do disagree that scum would avoid taking solid stances.
Then why did you say it instead of questioning it?
I did ask her directly

It didn't feel like an ask.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #856 (isolation #112) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:58 am

Am not fixated

I just think it's weird you don't have a read on her

DragonEater70 · Post Post #857 (isolation #113) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:59 am

@Black, Naerys, Hu Tao, how do you feel about voting Kyo here?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #858 (isolation #114) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:59 am

VOTE: Kyo

DragonEater70 · Thu Jan 04, 2024 10:11 am

I guess the best way to explain it is burden of proficiency? Like town!kyoko would do more and have better reads, in my estimation.

DragonEater70 · Thu Jan 04, 2024 10:16 am

I thought she was obvtown in 2319 but maybe I was just TMI'ing as scum

DragonEater70 · Thu Jan 04, 2024 10:17 am

One sec I'm gonna check something

DragonEater70 · Thu Jan 04, 2024 10:27 am

Agreed!

Anyway I'm back, for some reason I was thinking Kyo was hardpushing me in 2319 but turns out I was wrong so I guess that changes my perpective on that

UNVOTE:

Pedit: Thing is I tried to google image search pokemon that would fit visually with the color palette of the game I'm modding (yes I do care about things like that) and couldn't find anything so I gave up, but you are super welcome to PM me pokemon avatars that look good and I might choose one. Or I can revert to dragonair at some point.

Double pedit: Umm yeah I just realized I'd been wrong here.

DragonEater70 · Thu Jan 04, 2024 10:38 am

I'm dead

DragonEater70 · Thu Jan 04, 2024 10:38 am

I tried it and people started hating on me

DragonEater70 · Thu Jan 04, 2024 10:45 am

Same

Btw Black, Thomith is beating you with pokemon avatars rn

DragonEater70 · Thu Jan 04, 2024 10:46 am

Hmmm that made more sense in my head

I meant he's filling my inbox with them

DragonEater70 · Thu Jan 04, 2024 10:55 am

Oh, I guess USA timezones do work that way (it's almost midnight here)

I'll be expecting pokemon avatars when you get home though.

DragonEater70 · Thu Jan 04, 2024 10:56 am

Anyway I'm gonna go sleep now

DragonEater70 · Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:14 am

Sorry, I've been meaning to put a bit more effort into the game today and do some serious reading and ISO diving, but my time management skills and my decision making suck and I kinda have to sleep right now. But tomorrow is Saturday so I'll be definitely able to do that

From reading the last page only I wanna VOTE: dave

DragonEater70 · Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:14 am

Goodnight

DragonEater70 · Sun Jan 07, 2024 7:02 pm

In post 1062, Black wrote:
In post 1059, Black wrote:
In post 1057, DragonEater70 wrote: Sorry, I've been meaning to put a bit more effort into the game today and do some serious reading and ISO diving, but my time management skills and my decision making suck and I kinda have to sleep right now. But tomorrow is Saturday so I'll be definitely able to do that

From reading the last page only I wanna VOTE: dave
Do you townread Naerys?
Dragon scratch this question. I looked over your iso and it's pretty clear she's one of your top townreads. Can you explain why you townread her in depth?

Basically, I have played and modded a whole lot of games with Naerys, and I think I know her pretty well. Her thought processes, read trajectories, reaction to pressure and even the vote on Katsuki for posting a dead pokemon all feel like how she plays town normally. Can it be faked by scum!her? Maybe, but I saw no reason to believe that considering that so far TRing her for these things had worked pretty well for me.

And my vote on dave (I saw someone questioning it) is because he put a very unjustified vote on Naerys close to deadline in a way that screamed "this is the compromise wagon, all aboard the compromise wagon" which I didn't particularly find towny. Like it took less than a page since his vote to put her in E-1. That's scummy.

VOTE: davesaz

DragonEater70 · Sun Jan 07, 2024 7:03 pm

Why exactly am I at E-2? For not survivalistically jumping on Naerys yesterday when I was the counterwagon for most of the day?

DragonEater70 · Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:23 am

In post 1185, Black wrote:
In post 927, Gamma Emerald wrote: VOTE: kyouko
While I think Dragon is a fine place to go,
I want to vote somewhere less covered, that being kyouko
honestly kyouko fits the bill of the scum I voted in the past rhyming game
since I regard both slot's content involving me as lame

In post 1099, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1098, Black wrote: I don't think it's likely that all 3 scum were on the Naerys wagon

Which means there's at least one scum in {Gamma, Thomith, Jackson, Dragon}
Alternatively: that wagon was god-awful and we should kill on it.
VOTE: Camel
Still don’t trust you.

In post 1116, Gamma Emerald wrote: VOTE: Dragon

This progression is awful

Why are you voting outside of the wagon if you think we should fade on it? Wouldn't it make more sense for you to vote kyouko here?

Agreed

VOTE: Gamma

DragonEater70 · Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:26 am

In post 1211, Gamma Emerald wrote: VOTE: Hu Tao

Horrible progression

If you think I'm scum why do you move to Hu Tao here

DragonEater70 · Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:27 am

In post 1216, Black wrote:
In post 1211, Gamma Emerald wrote: VOTE: Hu Tao
This is a bad vote. She's town

Also

DragonEater70 · Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:27 am

In post 1247, Gamma Emerald wrote: I only really voted you because I thought there was a guilty. I still want to look at those that voted Naerys most of all.

Oh okay

DragonEater70 · Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:28 am

Then if you think I'm not scum, why is it scummy for Hu Tao to stall? Still makes no sense to me

DragonEater70 · Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:30 am

Gamma's progression makes zero sense here, at all. It feels like she's hopping wagons in an attempt to get a lim on whoever

If Gamma flips scum I'm locktowning Hu Tao

DragonEater70 · Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:31 am

In post 1258, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1252, DragonEater70 wrote: Then if you think I'm not scum, why is it scummy for Hu Tao to stall? Still makes no sense to me
I still think there’s something goofy about the way she’s giving intent to hammer
5 minutes is a pretty fucking short window, to start with. I don’t remember what exactly was going on but that happened while I was away D1.

Goofy, yes. Scummy no

DragonEater70 · Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:33 am

In post 1218, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1167, Hu Tao wrote: I'm sus of katsuki, kyouko, Dragon, gamma and Camel.

Not in any order. I wouldn't be surprised if at least 2 scum is in there.
Camel > Dragon today imo.

But I wouldn't hate a dragon vote

Why camel? Is it just the low content and how his wagon stalled?

DragonEater70 · Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:34 am

In post 1265, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 1239, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 1185, Black wrote:
In post 927, Gamma Emerald wrote: VOTE: kyouko
While I think Dragon is a fine place to go,
I want to vote somewhere less covered, that being kyouko
honestly kyouko fits the bill of the scum I voted in the past rhyming game
since I regard both slot's content involving me as lame

In post 1099, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1098, Black wrote: I don't think it's likely that all 3 scum were on the Naerys wagon

Which means there's at least one scum in {Gamma, Thomith, Jackson, Dragon}
Alternatively: that wagon was god-awful and we should kill on it.
VOTE: Camel
Still don’t trust you.

In post 1116, Gamma Emerald wrote: VOTE: Dragon

This progression is awful

Why are you voting outside of the wagon if you think we should fade on it? Wouldn't it make more sense for you to vote kyouko here?
Agreed

VOTE: Gamma
If you're town here Gamma is never scum - what do you think of Thomith and JV?

Explain?

DragonEater70 · Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:35 am

In post 1268, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1251, Black wrote:
In post 1235, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1233, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1221, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1219, Gamma Emerald wrote: I still think you wanting to “discuss” felt very disingenuous.

Am I wrong? You are not really a person who likes to go into major detail from what I know. As such you wanting “more time to discuss” doesn’t really feel like it’s your style. My theory is you’re covering for Dragon here so he can slip away, I am keenly aware that giving scum more time is a bad idea.
I'm a changed woman. I've seen that me not explaining things in detail has caused issues. So I am trying to improve on that.
I 100% believe this after Mini Normal 2319. Though I still take full credit for us losing that game. My tunnel was awful regardless of how little you explained yourself
It's okay bestie. I'm also responsible for that loss too.

I'm also responsible for that game being miserable

DragonEater70 · Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:36 am

In post 1224, Hu Tao wrote: KittyTacky - town
davesaz - forgot he was here tbh so ????
ssbm_kyouko - sus
JacksonVirgo - town
DragonEater70 - sus
camelCasedSnivy - sus
Gamma Emerald - sus
Katsuki - sus
Black - town
Thomith - town I think

Yikes. I need to narrow down my sus list.

Suprisingly I have the same town list

DragonEater70 · Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:39 am

In post 1237, Black wrote:
In post 1228, Thomith wrote:
In post 1225, Black wrote: {Gamma, Thomith, Jackson, Dragon}

I want to fade in this group
Why has your read on me changed?
Still the Jackson thing from yesterday?
These 4 were off the Naerys wagon and I don't think the entire scum team was on that wagon

Aside from that though I'm having a similar problem that I had in Micro Normal 1094. Some of your posts just gut ping me the wrong way

He was town there though

DragonEater70 · Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:46 am

In post 1273, Thomith wrote: Because of how fast the DE70 wagon grew, I do also think there's at least 1 scum in [ssbm_Kyouko, Gamma Emerald, JacksonVirgo, Katsuki, Black, Hu Tao (not on the wagon, but mentioned multiple times they wanted to be.)]

I think 2?

In post 1276, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1263, Black wrote: There's either two scum in {Kitty, CCS, dave, kyouko, Kat, Hu} or two scum in {Gamma, Thomith, Jackson, Dragon}

I like my chances with the second group
It's gamma and Dragon. My gut is telling me kyouko is scum though. But I could be wrong on that cause I don't see all 3 of them scum together

Why are you scum reading me again?

In post 1279, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1266, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 1218, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1167, Hu Tao wrote: I'm sus of katsuki, kyouko, Dragon, gamma and Camel.

Not in any order. I wouldn't be surprised if at least 2 scum is in there.
Camel > Dragon today imo.

But I wouldn't hate a dragon vote
Why camel? Is it just the low content and how his wagon stalled?
Based on meta he seems different but he could just be busy

Hmm

I see what you mean, but the last two times I tried to read him off of meta I failed miserably. I think it's best to judge him on play alone.

In post 1280, Thomith wrote: {Gamma, Thomith, Jackson, Dragon}
The issue I have here is I think I'm townreading everyone in this list right now.

Who do you scumread?

DragonEater70 · Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:48 am

I could see Gamma/Kyo. I felt it was really weird Kyo didn't have a read on Gamma yesterday. I do feel something doesn't fully add up though woth how hard Kyo is TRing Gamma - I'm not sure wolf!Kyo is actually likely to TR a partner that heavily.

DragonEater70 · Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:49 am

In post 1283, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1280, Thomith wrote: {Gamma, Thomith, Jackson, Dragon}
The issue I have here is I think I'm townreading everyone in this list right now.
Glad you are townreading yourself but seriously why do you tr dragon?

Why do you SR me?

DragonEater70 · Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:52 am

In post 1294, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 1244, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1237, Black wrote:
In post 1228, Thomith wrote:
In post 1225, Black wrote: {Gamma, Thomith, Jackson, Dragon}

I want to fade in this group
Why has your read on me changed?
Still the Jackson thing from yesterday?
These 4 were off the Naerys wagon and I don't think the entire scum team was on that wagon

Aside from that though I'm having a similar problem that I had in Micro Normal 1094. Some of your posts just gut ping me the wrong way
Issue with your pool is, unless one or less scum was on Naerys, it is still statistically better to look at those on the wagon.
at least one out of 4 off wagon: 1, 2 or 3 out of 4, average 2/4 (50%), or 2/3 (66.7%) if you're a townie in that group of 4
On-wagon would be 0-2, on average 1/7 (14.3%) , or 1/6 (16.7%) if you're a townie on the wagon

Why would it be statistically better to look on the wagon here?

I'm very confused why you are assuming at least one scum off wagon but not at least one scum on wagon? It feels like fabricated math.

DragonEater70 · Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:55 am

In post 1309, Black wrote:
In post 1303, DragonEater70 wrote: I could see Gamma/Kyo. I felt it was really weird Kyo didn't have a read on Gamma yesterday. I do feel something doesn't fully add up though woth how hard Kyo is TRing Gamma - I'm not sure wolf!Kyo is actually likely to TR a partner that heavily.
I may have missed it but where is the evidence that kyouko hard townreads Gamma?

Sorry I may have misinterpreted this post:

In post 1265, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 1239, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 1185, Black wrote:
In post 927, Gamma Emerald wrote: VOTE: kyouko
While I think Dragon is a fine place to go,
I want to vote somewhere less covered, that being kyouko
honestly kyouko fits the bill of the scum I voted in the past rhyming game
since I regard both slot's content involving me as lame

In post 1099, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1098, Black wrote: I don't think it's likely that all 3 scum were on the Naerys wagon

Which means there's at least one scum in {Gamma, Thomith, Jackson, Dragon}
Alternatively: that wagon was god-awful and we should kill on it.
VOTE: Camel
Still don’t trust you.

In post 1116, Gamma Emerald wrote: VOTE: Dragon

This progression is awful

Why are you voting outside of the wagon if you think we should fade on it? Wouldn't it make more sense for you to vote kyouko here?
Agreed

VOTE: Gamma
If you're town here Gamma is never scum - what do you think of Thomith and JV?

DragonEater70 · Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:57 am

In post 1311, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1308, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 1283, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1280, Thomith wrote: {Gamma, Thomith, Jackson, Dragon}
The issue I have here is I think I'm townreading everyone in this list right now.
Glad you are townreading yourself but seriously why do you tr dragon?
Why do you SR me?
Your play reminds me of that last game you were scum

Can you elaborate?

DragonEater70 · Tue Jan 23, 2024 6:18 am

In post 2901, Thomith wrote: Fuck.
I should have trusted myself.
GG.

Btw it was ao fun seeing you stumble over your words trying to push me and then deciding you were just tunneled.

DragonEater70 · Tue Jan 23, 2024 6:18 am

No idea how the arrow got there.

DragonEater70 · Tue Jan 23, 2024 6:19 am

I am sorry for my poor performance this game but I was not enjoying it at all and it affected my play.

DragonEater70 · Tue Jan 23, 2024 6:22 am

In post 2915, Gypyx wrote: what were the infos bianco?

ftr that's a super creative setup but i think it was a fair bit scumsided

I agree, it was scumsided af

But believe me it was frustrating not to be able to nightkill one of Katsuki/Black.