Mafia 121 -- Picking Simplicity Game Over

[Lowell]

/confirm

/waiting for SK to kill all mafia, then die in a tragic boating accident.

If I'm #18,

vote glork

[Lowell]

unvote, vote emp

OMGUS. And BUDDYING.

[Lowell]

I think there's every chance jack is VT and having some fun. As well, with TWO killing factions both intent on destroying each other, the set-up in some ways makes jack's claim safer.

Regardless, I'd agree with the statement "In general, I'd prefer Jack hadn't done that," but I don't think it's so cut-and-dry as to make LMPs enthusiasm the basis for a D1 lynch.

[Lowell]

As much as it makes me feel awesome to start a winning bandwagon, the emp case is useless. I'm not a huge fan of punishing active people D1. Does anyone really think emp is making endgame if he's scum?

unvote, vote snake

is fine; 209 is bad form. If you're here, you have to play too.

[Lowell]

I mean that, unlike people like snake who have the ability to disappear for pages on end, emp doesn't. We'll get more information as we go. He could easily be scum, but I'm not scared of him just sliding into endgame as others without leaving a trail.

[Lowell]

I echo 291.

unvote, vote glork

. DERAILMENT WAGON.

[Lowell]

heh, tricked you!

EBWOP:

unvote, vote MILLER

[Lowell]

UK, if I were scum everytime I said something contradictory or scummy, I'd be scum every game. Write that down.

I confess I'm behind in my read, and yes I will catch up, but how funny was the following sequence:

(1) UK votes me for such and such (lurking, probably, always is)
(2) folks jump in to call UK scummy for being lazy/wrong
(3) UK counters by saying 'OMG guys I

swear

Lowell is the SK. Don't you guys want to lynch the SK!!?!?!'"
...
...
...
(93) Uh, town wins?

vote UK

for taking the low-hanging fruit and then defending it all irrational-like.

That said, keep your eye on nacho. No one ever thinks I'm town except scum. Write THAT down, too.

[Lowell]

A little catch-up post, from the top. Ignore the first part if you want:

37- jack claims cop/doc, explains w/ something something
40- emp hates claim, doesn't believe it, FOSs jack, says jack shouldn't be the lynch [-, what?]
50s-60s- more folks chime in about jack, nothing else happens
73- LMP defends himself [+]
80s- Emp and LMP discuss Nik's scumminess, or lack thereof
108- azazel isn't "sold on LMP/nik pairing" [-, huh?]
137- LMP leads w/ 4 votes; Emp, Lowell, Sudo have 2
150-200- mindless walls of text
201- LMP leads w/ 5 votes, Emp has 4
203- moth joins empwagon
204- glork calls wagon terrible
209- snake enters, unvotes
210- UK votes snake
217- glork votes snake
224- lowell unvotes emp, votes snake
231- LMP votes emp
232- snake votes emp
238- glork explains case on snake [+]
239- anti votes snake
248- Emp leads w/ 6 votes, snake has 5
256- horrible disasterness from snake
257- moth votes snake
261- agar votes snake
286- CJ has no other reads, votes snake
291- glork votes miller
294- lowell votes miller
295- haylen votes miller
311- UK votes miller
313- snake leads w/ 6 votes, emp has 5, miller has 4
323- glork unvotes miller, goes back to snake
332- UK unvotes, revotes snake
359- yos votes azazel
364- yos changes his mind, votes snake
368- snake leads with 8 votes, emp has 4
369- LMP votes snake
370- snake self-votes
390- jack votes snake (lynch-1)
399- jack unvotes, votes moth
409- emp votes snake
412- jack hammers
419- snake (town), yos (town), and miller (town) dead
421- sudo declares jack not the doctor [-]
425- UK votes lowell
427- nacho votes UK for being terrible [+]
438- nik votes xine, declares him SK [-, ?]
455- Lowell votes UK
456- emp votes UK
460- UK rages [-]
466- haylen offers bizarre defense of nacho [--]
474- emp votes haylen
477- nik votes AGar for having too much info on haylen [+]
478- vas votes agar
480- UK votes Agar
481- AGar leads with 3 votes, haylen/moth/UK have 2
482- haylen votes AGar
492- eldarad votes AGar

vote AGar

. I agree that he revealed too much information in his deriding of haylen's play. The subsequent explanation doesn't fly with me.

I change my mind about nacho, he's town. And his case on UK is good-

fos UK

. Nik, vas, and emp are town. Sudo, probably not (I don't understand post 421 at all).

I seem to remember everyone throwing a fit when jack claimed cop/doc, and that LMP got bandwagoned for even half-heartedly defending it. But that thread has been mostly dropped today, suggesting it was a lot of crocodile tears. I don't quite know what to make of it, but it suggests that jack didn't make a mistake by claiming, and that people like glork (

fos glork

) were trying to shut it down for no reason.

[Lowell]

I could go for UK if this AGar thing doesn't happen. In other news, this AGar thing should happen, and sorry for the lack of posting recently.

[Lowell]

Just stopping by to silently endorse my own absence, wanted to point out that vas and noc are town. I'd give out Lowell's patented TOWNPOINTs, but whatever.

[Lowell]

unvote, vote anti

. The AGar wagon isn't happening-- and if it does, it'll be because a whole bunch of people show up at the last minute to be all "Meh, it's better than a no lynch," and we'll learn nothing from it either way. If we're going to lynch AGar (and we should), I'd like it to be with full participation. If we're going to purge someone at the last minute, it might as well be someone who has no intention of fighting back.

In other news, I still like vas a lot, and jack recently. nacho is getting better, UK is not. noc is going to be an excellent lynch tomorrow, since all he does is ask people what they think about lurkers, then do nothing with their responses. This game needs more engines than it has.

[Lowell]

Bring it on, sister.

[Lowell]

Eh, this got easy.

unvote, vote UK

[Lowell]

vote nacho

. Not sure why were given two lynches without having to do anything, but I'll try not to overthink it.

[Lowell]

unvote, vote LMP

, I'll go with glork, then bury him in votes tomorrow if he's wrong. I call that compromise.

I get the "mod error" thing now. Apologies, I'm slow.

[Lowell]

Hi, Lowell. Are you scum in this game?

Gutsy question. I knew there was a reason I was following you.

No. I am not scum.

And thank you for asking directly, instead of going all behind-my-back and shit or trying to convince others to hate on me, like some people do. There's no place for that.

BTW, that reminds me. Are you scum?

[Lowell]

glork is right, two more votes please.

[Lowell]

Hahah. I take it back. Jack is hilarious.

vote anti

. I want to follow glork blindly but he's hitting on me, I think. I'll wait until he stops.

[Lowell]

Vote: Lowell

for actively lurking, and his votes have been on the last two wagons, and the claimed cop, and now on what seems the most popular wagon again. He's following and not contributing.
Or Anti too. Lowell/Anti, how about you just tell us your other scum buddy and make it easier for us?

Some games need followers. Especially if we happen to be right. We don't need opportunists, though.

[Lowell]

Wow do I ever not trust this plan. I'd prefer we just lynch your guilties and not have to risk lynching your protection.

[Lowell]

I just think the plan as was is dangerous as hell. We could lynch a doc, cop dies overnight, and we lose the innocents AND guilties? Terrible idea.

[Lowell]

vote vas

. I'll throw eldarad a bone here. If for no other reason than because otherwise no one will do anything.

[Lowell]

I'm definately not lynching rad. He's pretty much the only one making sense.

[Lowell]

1079 is correct. This game is turning into an easy one.

[Lowell]

Did I get accused of buddying and/or bussing in a single post?? Wow, that's a new one. I'm amazing.

[Lowell]

I read myself in ISO and realized that I think AGar is scum. Must. Stick. To. PLAN!

unvote, vote agar

until equi says something ridiculous, then I'm back on him like white on glue.

[Lowell]

Um, well... we need to wait for nacho to give us what he knows before we do this, yes?

[Lowell]

Is this game really this easy?

vote eldarad