Blackest Night Mafia (GAME OVER!)

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hey guys howre you guys today
im kinda new at mafia so idk how this works but ill

vote toogleloo

bc he posted rite b4 me

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ya it rly was u member how i was all omg these ppl r scum n i was rite

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nvm

vote andrius

for being a bitch and also taking too long to get his colors in
oh yeah btw sens i dont have a post restriction but teh mod said i cant capslockalliance with fate so we went this route insteads

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Yeah, based on your 1st post I think you probably drew a VT role or a regular goon role Sensfan, however since I do not have much to go on, I forgot that Andrius wanted purple, and since Red is one of the primary colors used for making purple there is a 50/50 chance that Andrius picked Red Scum, and hence, is our best lynch for now.

Unvote:
Vote: Andrius

k hes town
anticapslockalliance needs to set phasers to love

hey kage is that a serious vote

cuz ur voting my mason buddy

why the fuck would you reveal our masonry this early on goddammit fate

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oh wait i forgot to answer agms questions

1 i dont even remember what colors i submitted lulz
2 i would probably n0 vig vi because he is impossible for me to read
3 done it before
4 i split it 50 50 probably because thats fair
5 id take 700K and let them take 300K and theyd take the deal bc who the fuck is gonna say no to 300K

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attn fate
starbuck is probs town so leave her be for now

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hey fate do u think we can get rc to let us capslockalliance again
cuz i gotta agree w other ppl this is kinda annoying

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Also Fate/xReck RIP caps lawk ... the caps was much funnier to read than the nocaps/bad spelling eyesore.

I cannot disagree more. I much prefer seeing Fate and his crew forced to wallow in the territory of Razorback / Vezok / Furcolow than having to see page after page of pointless all-caps posting.

hey anticapslockcrew set phasers to stun on moi hes bein kinda bitchy

how about scumhunting instead of bitching all game long?

The irony here is over-whelming. The Caps-Lawk crew (which you look to be applying for Junior Membership with) is throwing the equivalent of a temper tantrum for not being able to CAPS LAWK and you have the gaul to tell someone else to stop bitching?

hey magna quit bitching
also ad hom ad hom ad hom ad hom ad hom


so far ive read nothing that makes me want to scumhunt its all omg colors or omg setup meta
when some actual scumhunting starts just lemme know cuz this is all quite painful to read thru

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do it dana i dare you

also ummmm i almost just caps locked right then

hey fate i might break our agreement

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k so uh
we gotta chill with the giant walls o text cuz im not readin that shit


i like this idea of the orange person having to get rings

im against a mass colorclaim

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ok i cant stay up nemore dram is asleep and i need to go to bed

i will read this tomorrow unless your post is a wall o text/quotespam in which case i will skip it

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reck come back u forgot to vote kdubzzz

-_-

unvote vote kdub

there

i liek this sheep

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you have to discuss with your hydra whether u wil ansewr rvs questions???

lulwut

"Also,

at least I'm posting

" lolwut

fate what r these blasphemous question marks i see
omg and quotation marks too

how could you


attn everyone
if any of you vote starbuck you will have my wrath upon you so quickly itll make your head spin

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dramonic needs to contribute more

so on that note imma let him get on the computer now and say some stuff

whoo irl prods ftw

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dramonic needs to contribute more

so on that note imma let him get on the computer now and say some stuff

whoo irl prods ftw

I wouldn't know, since I am not the host, but how would this be different than PMing a player and asking them to post (which afaik, is modkillable)?

fishing for a modkill
noted

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so just so its clear

id gladly hammer any wagon
except for tans because im not rlly seeing the case on him



kublai khan
first off just trust me on starbuck im like one of the only people that can read her and her read here is town
same goes for dramonic
just trust me on their reads

second off dramonic just flew in to visit me for two weeks so hes having to use my computer to post since his laptop wont work with my wireless so stop getting your panties in a bunch

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personally im of the belief that we shouldnt necessarily be worrying about orange for the time being but thats just me

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hmmmmmmmmmmm

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Hello to all the people I know, and the people I don't.

Unlike Vi, I will answer AGM's questions:

Why did you see the need to comment on this? Do you think not answering the questions is indicative of anything? Did you notice Alamaster didn't even answer his own questions?

That's actually interesting information if true. It likely means that too many people requested scum.

Would you mind unpacking this sentence a little more, I'm curious to know where your line of thinking headed with this

fluff questioning attempting to appear town

fos guderian

fate and katsuki we could totes vote for him too
and dramonic brought up a good point about nopointinactingup

look lets just all three be unofficial masons and vote together mk
dramonic can join in too since hes the one who pointed out npiau

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town players include
me
katsuki
fate
dramonic
starbuck
andrius
maybe the stove i havent decided yet

scummy players include
guderian
sensfan
kdub

people who need to post more include
jack
dekes
stephoscope

everyone else can just consider yourselves neutral or null for the time being mk

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i reaaaaaaally wanna think kublai khan is town but his posts wont let me

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Good day.
I'd shoot myself in the head if I'm a N0 Vig. But it's a shame that I'm not ( or am I? )
The Ultimatium game looks a bit like Prisoner's Dilemma. I would take 50-50, which is the minimum bid that ensures I get free money at all. Same goes with the large number.

seriously
the comment about shooting himself in the head just does not sit well with me at all
second half of the post is just irrelevant fluff
what the hell does prisoners dilemma have to do with the current situation
once again this is scum creating fluff to appear protown

If SensFan hadn't said anything and PikachuGM hadn't asked irrelevant questions I would have voted nopointinetc. for claiming anti-Town colors in signups. (44)

SHUSH!! That was a secret ..

@NoPoint

– Why only answer a portion of AGM’s questions?

Hi! Cuz I like following trends.

Vi vs Pikachu:

I don't like AGM's questions real much but I see no real scum-hunting reason to make a fuss over it either. Both Vi and AGM is probably town.

Spyrex Agent Orange:

It's a bit peculiar that Spyrex picked Orange as his second but what scum motivation does it represent again?

Senfan bitching:

Buddy up to Magna time!

Vote:Senfan

first point
why dont you like agms questions
what do you mean you see no real scumhunting reason to make a fuss over it
what makes vi and agm likely to be town based on their exchange

second point
this literally adds nothing to the conversation

third point
did you really just lay down a vote with the sole intent of buddying
wifom wifom wifom wifom wifom

unvote vote nopointinactingup

kdub can wait till tomorrow
everyone choo choo chooooooo

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hey tans
whatcha think about nopointinactingup

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hey tans
whatcha think about nopointinactingup

The shooting himself in the head thing if he was a vig was probably a joke on himself which didn't go over. at all.

For the rest of your points:

first point
why dont you like agms questions
what do you mean you see no real scumhunting reason to make a fuss over it
what makes vi and agm likely to be town based on their exchange

second point
this literally adds nothing to the conversation

third point
did you really just lay down a vote with the sole intent of buddying
wifom wifom wifom wifom wifom

First point:
A few people didn't like AGM's questions and didn't answer them, and said they didn't like them, or gave no inclination either way - null tell
He doesn't see any reason to make a fuss out of it because he believes they are both town - See below
He needs to answer this question you posed to him to validate his point above

Second point:
I don't like this question as it was already poised by Magna on the previous page (#149). Looks to be parroting to me. I also wonder why he said he found it peculiar but didn't offer up any reasoning as to why he found it peculiar. If we ask him now he will probably just regurgitate what Xvart mentioned about Spyex's modding history and knowing that he would not get orange.

Third point:
I'm confused over what his real motivation was on the vote. Was it that he doesn't like Sensfan's bitching or to buddy up to Magna? Both reasons are lame to be certain. We were well past RVS at this point, I would like him to clarify why he actually put a vote on Sensfan, was it one of the above, or some other reason?

In conclusion, I think you should have put NPIAU on your "people who need to post more" list. I'm liking the kdub wagon more still, I am waiting to see him explain why AGM and Vi to him appeared to be a TvT exchange, as well as clarify the reasons he is voting Sensfan.

tans stop defending scum you silly wittle townie

@AGM: Sens may be playing whiny, but MoI is specifically making zero sense with his reason to vote.

note to self
if sens flips scum dram is his buddy

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oh hey guys did u hear that

vi says im sk bc of the anticapslockalliance
and bc i made a case on a scummy player

lol yea this is totes sk behavior
vi youre about one hundred times less good at mafia than you seem to think you are

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im not flipflopping on you babe
youre town unless sensfan flips scum

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@Vi vs AGM: This debate is stupid, stop it both of you.

@Sens vs MoI: Scummalicious =D
now which is scummier, the guy who goes ''woe is me, the mod hates me and is out to smite me because he's nothing better to do'', or the one going ''Since the person you are replacing is likely to be town, and you say he chose scum and say you are town, you must be scum!''...

interesting to note
if dram is scum and thats a bigggggg if
then vi and agm are town since he ignored them completely
he chose to focus on the sens vs moi argument which means one of them is probably scum and he wants to look good should one of them get lynched
and he chose to focus on moi over sens which makes sens the more likely buddy

but once again this is all speculation based solely on the idea that sensfan is in fact scum
and there are like four people id rather lynch before sensfan so yeah

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oh wait i remember why i dont like you now
lol

ps im rethinking this color claim idea and i think it might work

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also would like to point out
i know how dramonic likes to play as scum
he likes to bus bus bus bus bus

but hes not gonna outright bus all his buddies

a little bit of meta from reckoner for ya

and starbuck is still town

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k we dont hafta
but like wouldnt that make it really obv where the mafia are
even if the fakeclaims are distributed evenly theres still gonna be one color group that has a fuckload more people claiming in it than the others

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mafia obviously have fakeclaims
otherwise a mass colorclaim could break the setup

you shut your whore mouth xvart

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dramonics list makes sense
but since hes possibly scum i have to consider there may be a scum motivation for all this

hold please

predit
ill do what i want dammit
god that was so hard to not type in all caps

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wait weve already had color claims

i wasnt aware

who and what and when and where

isnt it obvious ive been skimming

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ive yet to see a real downside to mass color claiming
though i have to imagine dana and reaper put some kind of failsafe in place for this kinda thing


wifom wifom wifom wifom
aruguuhhhgh

scum must have some countermeasure to it
thats it im against it
fuck it
lets do some old fashioned scumhunting instead

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hi xvart

lemme drop some birthday edumacation on you

I guess since the number of people have posted and not thought this was a scumslip maybe so, but humor me: how would a mass color claim break the game without fakeclaims?

because then scum would have to make up their own claims and we could wind up with like a shit ton of claims for one or two colors
then if there were only four claims in a certain color category all four of those people would be confirmed town

First of all, you essentially did flip flop on dramatic based on SensFan flipping scum. You said SensFan was scummy, you said dram was scummy if Sens flipped scum, then said dram is town unless sens flips scum. Sounds pretty definitive to me that you think SensFan is scum and dramatic is his buddy except you later say if dram is scum (a bigggggg if). Does not compute with your SensFan read. And why are so many people above SensFan on your lynch list if you think he is scum and you get the bonus of all your conditional reads pending his flip?

actually if you read closer i said that dram was townish for pointing out npiau being scummy
i essentially maintained that my read on him remains the same unless sensfan flips scum
i also stated there are plenty of people id like to lynch before sensfan

And what is the point of the following comment when, at the point of this post, dram has barely made any comments about anyone being scum?

because dram lurks
then has to make catchup posts
in which he busses his buddies
listen if anyone on this site can read dram its me lets get serious here

now moving on from your inane lack of reading comprehension skills

Hey reck, I interacted with SpyreX. What does that make him?

it means nothing at this point since you never gave a read on him
you had to make a big catchup post and list off a lot of opinions and reads at once which is the post im going to pay attention to when any of those people flip
but i like your misdirect there in saying that im stating everyone who you interact with is going to have an alignment directly related to your interaction with them
touché

also if we can stop talking about completed games that i cant be arsed to read that would be fanfuckingtastic

Jack, you wanna' recruit me into masonry tonight? <3

no but ill recruit you into mine

if you know what i mean

Spy, sens has the whole claiming he went for scum but didn't get it thing. Although I do think him saying he went red/orange is weird. SSBF meta would still be interesting.

But I want to go with starbuck now.

unvote, vote:Starbuck

this is ten kinds of lulzy
laying down a vote on starbuck without giving proper reasoning attached to the vote

faaaaate
spyyyyrex
im not sure i can do it anymore
the caps lock
its itching at my fingertips

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andrius
if you reject my sexual advances again ill be hurt

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Can someone give me a worth it/not worth it on reading pages 2-7?

lol this

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holy shit npiau
are you even trying to hide the fact that youre scum

Tans warped reality itself with his moon logic.

lol sigged

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err no. I would if I were scum o_0

megavote nopointinactingup

i mean seriously

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kdub
hence why you should vote him

agm
highfive

if we lynch npiau today i will stop this nocaps nopunctuation nonsense

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Nah, it's a Birthday Vote

okay so
we are way past the random voting stage
like waaaaaaaaay past it
and you should be actually trying to account for you actions instead of explaining them away by lol birthday vote

srsly guys
how is this not obvscum

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fate
we can agree to that right
nudge nudge

npiau didnt you see where i voted you
actually it doesnt matter youre confirmed scum in my mind but sure go ahead

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he is not fucking town
and i want to smack all of you who are saying he is

spyrex baby i know youre smarter than this
cmon now

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nah im good

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vi shut the fuck up
you are really really not as good as you think you are

personal attacks and being erratic and obnoxious are my mo
if you want to see how i play as scum go read my wiki
protip
when im actually attempting to appear town im scum

fate please tell these muthafuckas to back the eff off before our masonry has to do something drastic
npiau is the lynch for today
it isnt kdub
he might be the lynch for tomorrow

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reck i dont think nopoint is the lynch for today
how about settling for a nice juicy tender kdub wagon

how bout this
if you lynch npiau with me today
i will blindly sheep you for the rest of the game
lol jk but not rlly

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1

In a two scum faction game how does that make dram townish? If you think that is a honest tell then wouldn't it just mean he was not scum with nopoint?

2

You are contextualizing your dram read inaccurately. You have, on multiple occasions and in multiple ways, said SensFan is scum. Ergo, dram is scum. So saying that dram is townish unless SensFan flips scum is contradictory in a way.

3

Why do you want to lynch others over SensFan? You talk a lot about SensFan being scum and a lot of reads building off of him being scum so why isn't he a higher priority? Why do you talk so much about SensFan?

1 it made dram townish because i was like oh damn thats a good point
then i remembered how much dram loooooves to bus

2 its not contradictory because i said there are plenty of people id like to lynch before sensfan

3 sensfan is crucial to my dram read which in turn is crucial to my npiau read

in case you are having trouble grasping it im insinuating at sensfan-dramonic-npiau scumteam
but im not sure on the fourth yet

And the point of talking about dram bussing but not bussing his entire team when he had given like one scum read all game was what? Just to be helpful?

what the fuck are you talking about
i used my meta on dram to get reads based on connections ffs

this wagon on me is epic fail



do you guys not see how nopointinactingup didnt bother giving any serious effort into the game until we all forced him to
when i get nightkilled for being right please go after the dram sens npiau scumteam
kdub or guderian is probably their fourth but thats just gut

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yup just isod dram
getting huge dramscum vibes from his iso
but ill wait for him to dig his grave a little more before i go after him

im now eighty percent sure that dram was in fact bussing npiau
and im seventy percent sure that dram was halfheartedly bussing sensfan by saying both he and moi were scummy
go look at his defense for choosing moi over sensfan
no wait here ill quote it

@AGM: Sens may be playing whiny, but MoI is specifically making zero sense with his reason to vote.

sens wasnt just playing whiny his posts were all fluff
but moi at least giving a reason is scummier
what is this i dont even

dram try harder

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i dun get it vi was that wagon on kdub just for information???

i thought he was scum for real

unvote: vote: starbuck

tehee

fate what the fuck are you doing
dont leave me now baby
remember how we almost busted advance wars mafia wide open
remember how i ran a fucking train through the scum in fates mafia
yeah its about to happen here again if youll just fucking listen

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BUT FATE

WE CAN MAKE UP FOR IT NOW, RIGHT?

Urgh. Caps lock has been broken.

Let's do this Fate.

Let's do it.

FOR GREAT JUSTICE!

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MORE POSTS LIKE THAT ONE PLEASE

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Oh wait, here's a post in not all-caps to counteract the modkill.

Fate. There's a loophole.

12. Do not edit or delete your posts. Do not post in colors other than the default or when posting links. Do not post invisible text. Do not encrypt anything in your posts. Do not

constantly

post in

all

caps.

Note the bold.
If we don't do it CONSTANTLY, and we don't post in ALL caps, then we're safe.

PREDIT: xvart just shut up it took me awhile to figure all this out.

BOTTOM LINE IS AS FOLLOWS:
DRAMONIC IS SCUM WITH NOPOINTINACTINGUP AND SENSFAN
I DO NOT CARE WHICH OF THE THREE WE LYNCH TODAY

THANK YOU AND GOODNIGHT

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Considering just claiming now to stop this stupid wagon so we can lynch scumz.

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Fate.

I am so happy I'm on the verge of tears right now.

TEARS OF JOY OF COURSE

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Thank you.

Now I have a question: who is the fourth person missing from the dramonic-SensFan-nopointinactingup scumteam?

Kdub is scummyish, but doesn't make sense as the fourth.
Guderian's fluffposting still bothers me, but that doesn't indicate which scumteam he's from.

YOUR THOUGHTS FATE
I NEEDS THEM

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So not only is dram scum, he's a scum PR?

Good to know.

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Meh, nevermind, my last post was bullshit.

Dram's still scum though.

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FATE

What am I gonna do while you're gone? *sniff*

Katsuki, I demand you get your ass in gear and join us.

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Actually, despite dram being scum, I agree with him on Orange.

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All in due time.

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Why does this list not include Kast who had not posted at all in thread as of that point?

Because I half-assed the list?

Is this part of your ‘Dram loves to bus’ meta you are throwing out there for Dram? Because Lost Season 2 Mafia seriously begs to differ with that meta.

That was a fluke.
Trust me on this one, Magna.
Dram is scum, and his buddies are SensFan & NPIAU. Still working out that fourth one. Of course, now the fourth is going to do his best to not draw any connections between himself and the other three, but I digress.

I'm sure all four of them are laughing hard on the inside at the fact that I have figured out their scumteam and yet nobody is listening.

Um what? I’d love to see the math on how spreading 9 Mod-provided fake-claims between 4 Town colors leads to a large group in one color. Really.

Did you fail basic math?
4 town colors. 4 in each. That's 16.
If there's 8 scum, divided evenly, then that's 6 in each.
Add in the orange dude, and one color is going to have 7 and not 6, and it'll be OBVIOUS which one the Orange dude is in. THINK ABOUT IT.

You can stop trying to play suboptimally to avoid the NK any time now. This playerlist doesn’t sport the usual deadweight.

God, you're a douchefuck.

Despite your douchefuckiness, I agree that Guderian is 'I want to look like helpful Town'.
OH WAIT, I SAID THAT LIKE EIGHT PAGES AGO.

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You are missing the whole point. You said scumSensFan implies scumDram, which implies scumnopoint, and you want to start at nopoint and work your way backwards? On what planet is does this line of thinking imply the best lynch order starts with the person that is contingent on two other unflipped people being scum? Is SensFan your buddy and this is a terrible passive aggressive bus?

It took me a little while to work everything out in my head. Plus, I'm always REALLY REALLY hesitant to vote dramonic since I wuv him and all, so I try to find the best way to NOT do that… but now I've realized it doesn't really matter since all three of them are scum.

Hello? I'm not asking questions to entertain myself here. Explain this post:

See above.

Your original argument wasn't about finding the SK. It was about finding scum.

HERP DERP THE SK IS A TYPE OF SCUM
DERPA DERPA

1. Sometimes I get really pissed off on this site because people seem to view a later join date as an 'easier mark'. In EACH large theme game I have played (an one or two in other places) a whole host of people have jumped on me for posting shit like this, often containing the same words I hear here 'fluff' 'defensive' 'stupid posts'. Ok, If you think I am scum, make something out of it. I see this in a lot of games I play, and (not always in regards to me). A few suggestions here or there and out of nowhere a bandwagon has appeared.

Cool ATE bro

What is this I dont even. This statement could easily have been left at 'dont be fucking stupid.' What Your last sentence is trying to achieve is beyond me.

what is this i don't even
this statement could have been left out entirely
what this entire paragraph is trying to achieve is beyond me

SEE HOW EASY IT IS?

Dislike fates play here. Someone point out the massive protown read they are getting for me.

You can just go sit in the corner and await your lynch now.

Well on your request, Iosed starbuck. Nonsense coming from her right now really. I think this is a convenient wagon because all she has done is post flavor instead of anything. I mean, that isnt protown, but neither has a lot of other people been. I dont see it as wagon worthy unless the point is to get her to contribute. This wagon will probably dissipate when she stars posting stuff.

Staying off of a popular, easy wagon = INSTANT TOWN POINTS
ISN'T THAT A GOOD THING FOR SCUM TO DO?
PROTIP: YES, YES IT IS

Disclaimer: I have absolutely no flavor knowledge of Blackest Night, aside from who the good and bad colours are by virtue of factions in OP and loose wiki knowledge.

I acknowledge and support this post.

Interesting that some people seem to have no idea what a large part of the starbuck wagon is about. foes:katsuki

You're ten kinds of terrible.

@Reck - After skimming NPIAU in 2 games where he is scum (POP and 1040) I do not think he is scum this game.

Stop being stupid, then.

I don’t know if you failed basic math but claims of 6-6-6-7 means one Town color has an excess of 1. That hardly qualifies as what I bolded above.

Hi Magna.
Hyperbole here.
Ever met me?

Are you saying that avoiding a NK didn’t play even a smidgeon into your little protest? Really?

No. Avoiding a nightfall never came into the picture. I was just being obnoxious to piss off ReaperCharlie.

CAPSLAWKALLIANCE = ALIGNMENT CONFIRMED MASONS, NEXT!

QFT

I see the starbuck case now.
Reck thinks she's town though.

She is town.
And while we can deal with the tans/Kdub scumteam tomorrow, we need to deal with the SensFan-NPIAU-dramonic scumteam today.

So, you are saying you guys did arrange to submit the same colors?

LOLWUT
This is the greatest stretch in the history of stretches. I'd be LOLing IRL if I wasn't so damn hungover.

Tans, brah, you best back the FUCKS up off Katsuki before Fate & I have to go MEDIEVAL all over your ass.

Reck, join me if you dare

WHAT A PERFECT TIME TO BUS YOUR SCUMBUDDY
FATE, KATSUKI
WE'RE ON THIS SHIT

UNVOTE, VOTE: SENSFAN

HEY DRAM
YOU NEED TO BE NEXT ON THIS WAGON
IT'S TOTALLY YOUR M.O.

scum list:
starbuck
nopoint
katsuki

icky list:
xreck
spyrex

I hate you about 20% less now that NPIAU is on your scummiest.
You need to get Starbuck & Katsuki THE FUCK OFF THAT LIST though.
Awww SpyreX he called us icky
imma go cry now

Bad excuse is bad.

Even if it started over the holidays, do you think it would be over by now?

YOU WILL SHUT THE FUCK UP
RIGHT NOW
THIS IS THE WORST PRESSURING I'VE EVER FUCKING SEEN
OH MY GOD YOU'RE BAD AT MAFIA
AND NOT IN A GOOD WAY LIKE ME

[referencing NPIAU] Helloooooooo vigs?

You can be on my good side for now.

Moar Starbuck votes.

…k nvm.

Now that you mention it. I've never been vigged before o.0

WHY.
WOULD.
YOU.
MAKE.
THIS.
POST.

HOLY SHIT YOU'RE LUCKY YOU'RE VOTING YOUR SCUMBUDDY
OTHERWISE YOU WOULD 100% BE LYNCHED TODAY
WELL, YOU STILL WILL
MAYBE
I REALLY DON'T GIVE A FLYING FUCK

If Katsuki is on your scum list, why not include Reck and Fate, who Katsuki claims are alignment-confirmed masons with him? That claim really only makes me want to lynch Reck more considering we kill multiple birds with one stone. If he flips town alignment-confirmed mason, we have 2 confirmed townies. If he flips scum, we have a great place to look for buddies. On the other hand, I wouldn't mind a Katsuki lynch either for a lot of the same reasons as Reck. Not to mention the ridiculous way he attempts to dodge tanstalas's inquiries.

Um. Hi.
This is called ME FATE AND KATSUKI ARE ALWAYS ALIGNMENT CONFIRMED MASONS IN EVERY FUCKING GAME
Are you catching on yet, or do I need to get Big Bird and Elmo up in this bitch to drop some knowledge on you?

Oh how did you guess.

and there is no way I could've stepped away from mafiascum.net, nope.

LOL <3

Fate, do you think you've been productive this game?

@Guderian: Hopefully not.

Best. Exchange. Ever.

If they aren't allowed to collude then they would have been modkilled by now, you know when Katsuki admitted that they did?

HOLY SHIT DROP IT
YOU DENSE, IRRITATING FUCK

I'm in favor of lynching tanstalas if only to remove the complete idiocy that is a "Reck/Kats/Fate" scum theory from the sanctity of this thread.

QFT

HEY TANS
EVEN

VI

CALLED YOUR LOGIC BAD
THAT'S WHEN YOU KNOW YOU'RE FUCKED

ohohoHOHOHOHHOHO JACK.

WHAT SAY YE

(hey reck no one is on our wagon of justice…)

They will be ONCE I REVEAL MY SUPERDAYCOP ABILITIES
Actually seriously.
Just jump on this SensFan wagon with me so we can help NPIAU bus his scumbuddy.

Reck's Scumlist, which is guaranteed to be 99% accurate OR YOUR MONEY BACK!:

SensFan
NPIAU
dramonic
tanstalas
Guderian
maybe Jack

IN CASE THE MOD DIDN'T SEE IT
UNVOTE; VOTE: SENSFAN

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holy shit what have you guys done to me
i just wall o' text'd

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Fate how come you aren't playing normally?

This is the worst comment of the game.

fate that vote hop was shmexy as hell
do me

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^ That post was shmexy too.

guys threeway now plz

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oshit

dram just saw that post and got upset with me
im in troubbbleeeeee (with a scumbag)

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He won't do it..

HIS SCUMBUDDIES WILL.

OOOOOOH SNAP

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AGM

Wagon Sens please.

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Starbuck is town and voting her is a waste of time.

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Fate can we play a minivengeful while we wait for these clowns to join us in voting scum?

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Starbuck is town and voting her is a waste of time.

I decided to humor you and look for why you would say this.

...it's not great, but I don't know how good a scum strategist Starbuck is.

Holy shit Vi, we can be friends now!

@AGM: I haven't conferred with Fate yet, but you're probs okay to join the alliance. 'Cause you've got your head screwed on straight.

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Jack.

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But MoI, Fate & me & Katsuki are all on a scumwagon right now.

And PS you're 100% right about Guderian & NPIAU. THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING FOR PAGES NOW.

PREDIT: HOLY SHIT I LOVE THIS WAGON

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Dekes.

Guderian is certainly scum.
But you should settle on lynching otherscum today with us.

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Can I make a proposal because I see that topic popping up every now and then?

Can we drop anything related to the ring situation until we have some actual proof that something will happen to them or there's another agenda surrounding them? The discussion's only distracting and not in the least helpful as of now.


Well, so I guess, I can stop wasting time on Katsuki. That mess can sort itself later out. Same goes for Reck.

I may have to look through Sensfan's Iso again, but if his recent proposition of color claiming has anything to do with his wagon, count me out. While this is a silly idea, because as mentioned, I don't think the mods would have forgotten about this scenario during the designing of the game, I hardly see any scum motivation for the color claiming, since it doesn't help increase scum's chances for hitting any PR's.
That would leave some SSBF alignment preference meta. Not really incriminating. Same goes for the Starbuck case though I see a lot of fluff in her ISO.

If anyone has a more convincing Sensfan case, I'm all ears.

It's noticeable that so many suspicion is cast against Guderian yet no vote on him. Let me help out here a bit:

Unvote; Vote: Guderian

Case is already strong enough, but I found out what bothered me with his initial kdub-tans statement. He asked both to give reasons for why the other is scum (why exactly, if he though both of them were most likely scum?), yet never followed up with this. Nice "pro-active" alibi questioning there.

This is a terrific post. More later, but I should at least cast a vote.

Vote: Guderian

And this is a terrific vote.

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That's funny because you're the backup mod.

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Okay then, what contributed to the turnaround on dram? Just the bus you think you identified? I understand you have been working on this scum team for a while or whatever, but what about his vote makes it a certain vote? Pure meta? He hasn't ever come back from lurking and voted as town? Or as scum voted someone after lurking that wasn't his scum buddy?

Dram can't resist making a catchup post and NOT attacking his buddies. He's like me when he's scum - he knows who the bad guys are, so it's easier to appear townie if you're hunting the bad guys, therefore he buses. It's his MO when he's scum. He's done it in countless games with me.

Oddly enough, he's read the game several times, but hasn't bothered posting any real content.
Go iso him, most of his stuff is fluff question and half-assed scumhunting with the intent to APPEAR town.
He's staying out of the fray for a reason.

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...you mean my own post?

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Scum

Tans and probably Jack
Kdub and the stove (plonk a vote down on kdub- then move it)

Person of Interest

MoI, (what point do you want me to answer?)
Toog

You lack all of your scumbuddies in your scumlist, Guderian.

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...you mean my own post?

Sure.

If you and dramonic have similar scumtells, then surely your big catch-up post where you bus all your scum-buddies must be indicative of something.

i c wut u did thar

(Reck could only care a very little bit less about anything I have to say).

You must be psychic.

However, I don't think your scum. Since I already have an entire scumteam pegged and part of the other one, you're clear.
Unless you're orange.

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Kagelord needs to stop hiding behind the

"Oh I think they are confirmed masons oh shit no I can't get past this line of thought"

guise and start actually contributing.

goodposting

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EXCELSIOR!

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SpyreX.

You just need to accept the fact that we're all town and make with the lovin'.

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lol i c wut u did thar

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YES SPYREX
YES

MUUUUUUUUAH!

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BUT THE RULES said as long as it's not CONSTANTLY ALL CAPS then we're going to be A-OKAY!

@The Stove: Please stop focusing solely on KageLord and comment on the dramonic-SensFan-NPIAU-and, oh, lemme see... Guderian? scumteam.

We need to makes with the lynchins.

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wait are we going anticapslock antipunctuation again
cuz im not sure i can handle reading my own posts

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Starbuck won't be lynched. Vi, get in here.

Fate, Kats, get the FUCK back on SensFan or NPIAU before I have to go dayvig on one of you.

PS, I just got a warning from ReaperCharlie about our caps lock. He means srs bzns.

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Guys, trust me.

I have inside info on Starbuck.

SHE IS THE TOWNS. Or at the very least, she isn't red scum.

Jack is potentially scum of an opposite team from dram/Sens/NPIAU.
But I'm less confident on him as I am about the other three/Guderian.
Still unsure which scumteam Guderian belongs to, though.

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Dram can't resist making a catchup post and NOT attacking his buddies. He's like me when he's scum - he knows who the bad guys are, so it's easier to appear townie if you're hunting the bad guys, therefore he buses. It's his MO when he's scum. He's done it in countless games with me.

But how do you differentiate when he is scum/town from catch up posts? Does he never post votes in catch up posts as town?

Call it gut. I know dram better than anyone else here on this site (for obvious reasons) and I've rarely ever been wrong about him. If you look at Caffwagon Invitational (link in my wiki), dram was scum from D1 and you can read in the mason QT how I pegged him as scum but didn't want to be a NK threat since I was a mason so I defended him.

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Scum:
SensFan
STOVE
tannenbaum
Guderian
Starbuck
LURKER SLOT
LURKER SLOT
SNEAKY SLOT

SK:
Spy/Jack/Reck?

First off: don't just make blanket reads and ask OTHERS for their thoughts. That's called letting people make a case for you.

Second off, your list has Starbuck, which is plain wrong. Vi gets it.

Third, your list is missing dramonic & NPIAU. Unless you want to fill those two into your lurker slots.

I think your read on The Stove is interesting. I feel like they've been staying pretty under-the-radar and out of the fray, but I'm not sure if that's actual scumminess or lack of motivation to get really involved in the game.

SK reads are kinda lulzy. Plus there's no need to be SK hunting yet, IMO, especially when we have a giant ass list of scumbags that need rope.

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unvote vote starbuck

^.^

i dont get what you mean by going back though this doesnt look like sensfan

lol i spelled sensfan wrong

thats so funny i just might have to leave the vote there

cuz my subconscience is tellin me that i should be voting starbuck i guess hehehehe

you get off of starbuck and back on 2 sensfan or guderian or dramonic or npiau right now
otherwise ill have to scold you

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you two vote for one of the scums now
or ill send you to your room without food

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dont u understand
u have two dads
my hubby dramonic is too busy being all sortsa scummy tho
so im making u kids turn on him in the violent divorce

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I have inside info on Starbuck.

SHE IS THE TOWNS. Or at the very least, she isn't red scum.

Explain.

STFU and stop rolefishing, she'll be able to explain it herself tomorrow.

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Honestly, after we lynch my scumlist, if you guys SERIOUSLY think I'm the SK, I'll gladly take a lynch to get that out of the way. But I guarantee you my scumlist is at least 90% accurate.

That scumlist being, once again:
NPIAU
dramonic
SensFan
Kdub
Guderian
maybe Jack
maybe The Stove

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oh and maybe KageLord

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Kay, I'm liking Plum. Gundaria is obviously bullshitting

Unvote.Vote:Gundaria

YAY YOU FINALLY BUSSED YOUR SCUMBUDDY *golfclap*
Now if dramonic & SensFan would do it, we might be able to get one of you scumfuckers lynched!

Reck, your alliance doesn't have the leading wagon. Your response?

SON I AM DISAPPOINT

Zito and I are still (as of our last discussions) in agreement of the Starbuck needs to die movement, and I'm not keen on just buying into what Reck's selling.

Let me just say this...
All will be clear tomorrow.

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hey katsuki vi is callin it recks alliance how u fell bout that

i mean its sok my felins arent hurt

neway he said were not no the main wagon so i guess its time to make it the main again

shh shh shh fate
dont cry baby
were all in this together neways

I FORESEE A STARBUCK REPLACEMENT IN THE NEAR FUTURE
Just sayin'.

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I didn't like starbucks "post 5 times about how I can't post" schtick either.

Yes yes this!
Over here Baaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Actually, since I kinda know Starbuck outside of the site, I can honestly say she hasn't been online much at all...and when she has been online, mafia has been taking a backseat.

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@ Reck re 626

– Since you are so sure Dram is scum would you consider lynching him today?

In a heartbeat.

Reck, if you think Guderian's scum, can you make your entourage switch over so we can finally have a solid wagon going?
Alternatively can you outline the case on Sensfan for me? All I'm seeing there is uselessness and something about SSBF's dubious scum preferance.
I vaguely remember a giant post from you, I don't know if it contained a case on Sensfan, so I'm too lazy to look it up right now.

1) sure
2) once guderian, dramonic, or NPIAU flips scum you'll believe me and vote sensfan. though guderian is harder to connect to the group than the others.
3) i dont remember if it did or not, i think it was random comments on the game

attn anticapslockcrew

we are going to settle for a guderian lynch today since people arent listening to us regarding the others

so lets do this for great justice
then once we are right about this maybe theyll all join us in lynching sens or dram or npiau tomorrow

unvote vote guderian

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I'm still wondering what took Reck so long though. Isn't one scum on the list as good as another?

Yeah, that's why I said I'm willing to lynch any of them today.

...anywho, I asked Reck to allay my suspicion of Star, he didn't do it, Vi showed that he also didn't care as much about Star in light of Reck's commentary, I have no qualms laying it down.

No wonder panda bears are extinct. Lack of intelligence.

reck + fate
tans and kdub on the same wagon gives me the creeps
especially right after kdub claimed scum too
i got shivers goin up ma back right now

sokay kats
multiple scumteams

nvm let them bus
we got them tomorrow anyways

I SAID… MULTIPLE. SCUMTEAMS.

attn katsuki and fate
guderian is at l-3
pile your votes on now, put him at L-1, let him fakeclaim, then someone can hammah

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wait nvm dont even let him claim
hammer the bitch

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Unusually abrasive vice his normal abrasiveness?

<3 you.

Starbuck.
Vote for Guderian and I'll convince Fate & Katsuki to recruit you into our masonry tonight.
C'mon.
Trust me.
Do it.

Oh, and let me make this perfectly clear:

ANYONE WHO THINKS STARBUCK IS SCUM AFTER THOSE POSTS WILL BE RECEIVING A DAYVIGBULLET TO THE SKULL FROM ME.

That is all.

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I'll accept you as Town for now because Reck is awesome

Okay, you're on my favorites list now. <3
Feel free to join the alliance.

Magna's post right above this one is ::goodvoting::

OKAY IT'S HAMMERTIME BITCHES
FATE & KATSUKI
ALL SYSTEMS ARE GOOOOOOOOOOO

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Guderian doesn't seem scummy.

^^ This.

The last few pages have been incredibly scummy. It's just a ton of people saying, "lol i like fast days so lets lynch whoever ... i guess that's guderian now." The dude isn't even here - he's V/LA. And hardly anyone on the wagon has justified why they are voting for him.

SpyreX especially. You don't say "so and so is town" and then vote for them. That is just not ACCEPTABLE behavior.

Can somebody at least EXPLAIN why he is scummy?

you are not guderian's scumbuddy.
just so you know

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Please be the hammer.
Please be the hammer.
Please be the hammer.
Please be the hammer.
Please be the hammer.
Please be the hammer.
ctrl+v

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REDACTED- Somebody didn't read Rule 6 or didn't care.

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Regarding the setup: the only balancing issue that bothered me is that we had no notion of there being a cult into far too late in the game. Dana & RC kept saying, "Well town should have been cult-hunting!"... which is easy to do... if we had more than 2-3 days to actually look for the cult. Not knowing about it is where the main balance problem lied. Black recruiter being bulletproof is pretty OP, then take into account it's a bulletproof recruited mixed in with three other scum factions, and town really didn't have a shot.

By the way, I just want to point out that I called all of red scum plus tans-SK on D1.

Just gonna warn you guys, I got a bit out of control in the dead QT, but what can I say? It really gets under my skin when someone assault my integrity, insults my boyfriend, and essentially tells an entire group of people that he has "proof" of my dishonesty, when in fact, he has none.

Dram & I never cheated, and for anyone who thinks we did, I'd suggest reading my points in the QT.

@Reaper: Yeah, but after you made such wild accusations, and were proven that your facts/basis for thinking that was false, you should've fucking admitted you were wrong and made a public apology. But instead, you continue to stand by what you said because of some sense of mistaken pride. I expected better.

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I can still be amiable towards you, RC, but you took a personal dig at me that was uncalled for. You have to understand my stance on this.

KATS Y U HAFTA BE SCUM
I WANTED STARBUCK/KATSUKI/FATE/RECK

I would've recruited Fate, but I didn't think Starbuck would go for that

All in all I'm pretty satisfied with my play:

Nailed four red scum and the SK, and caught yellow scum in my death.

A LITTLE PISSED STARBUCK DIDN'T POST MY AWESOME POST-MORTEM LETTER I TOLD HER TO POST IF I DIE

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Yeah, Sens is right.

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