Open 9 - Basic Twelve Player (Game Over!) - before 400

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Random.org says Twito.

vote:Twito

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Damn it, it's only page one and already Twito's convinced me that he's town.

unvote

my brother in alcohol abuse,

vote:Battle Mage

for the badlogic. I would think, occasionally, that Lowell votes for scum.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Fircoal's jumping on the Battlemage wagon seems a little opportunistic to me. Does anyone else think so?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

He's new... I'd give him a break.

In fact, based on that post, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. I remember what it was like to be new. My basic defense was and still kind of is "look, I'm not scum, I don't know how else to say it." I get the feeling that he's protown.

unvote, vote:Fircoal

because I'm still not sure about his vote on Battle Mage.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

im not going to explain the flaw with that theory again, but go back to my previous posts and you will see.

Oh, I thought it was a vote cause you were a Jerk. <3

Yeah, Battle Mage is innocent. I remember being a newbie too.

I'll throw in an unvote, vote Fircoal while I'm here. Nothing you've said makes me believe you're not scum.

I believe that Battle Mage is not the only newbie... have you bothered to look at the townsperson titles? So if you're willing to cut Battle Mage some slack, why not spread the newbie slack all around? I mean I'm just saying.....

Also Battle Mage, Claiming is not good. Not only is there NO call for it, but you have just eliminated the scum's shot at a potential power role. Don't take things so personally, as this is a game, and someone is going to have to get attacked.

So your only defense is that you might have

lied?

Whether you're protown or not, that's not protown behavior.

unvote, vote: BattleMage

[The Central Scrutinizer]

BM: What flaw in which theory were you referring to?

He means that him claiming townie doesn't necessarily give the mafia a better chance of hitting a power role because he might have lied in his claim.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

I'm also curious why SL FoS'd IH.

Other than that, I'm still pretty happy with my Battle Mage vote.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

TCS: What is your opinion on this meta statement: "One Day 1 lynch is as good as any other."

That as far as I can tell, day one lynches are completely random anyway, unless a scum is completely stupid?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

I'm not sure he knows how to answer your question.

unvote, vote: ShadowLurker

[The Central Scrutinizer]

What is your opinion on this meta statement: "One Day 1 lynch is as good as any other."

....Why did you ask that question? I'm curious.

I also Echo Spectrumvoids questions.

I said that during Day 1 of another game that he's in. And I think it's true. In a game that starts with Day 1 and no night, supposing that scum doesn't out itself with a really stupid comment, one lynch is usually as good as another.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

nm, found it.

unvote: vote Andrews

Why?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

So our three scum are AndrewS, IH, and TCS, which one of them should we lynch first?

So am I on your list because OMG I Suck, or do you have a reason?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

So our three scum are AndrewS, IH, and TCS, which one of them should we lynch first?

So am I on your list because OMG I Suck, or do you have a reason?

Still waiting.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

SL went from harshly criticizing AndrewS to claiming he was town in about five posts. This one post by AndrewS was in between:

Well, quite frankly, I think that this whole bandwagon is rather silly, having been started over single missed post. Of the votes that are on me: 2 are due to the missed post, one is due to me being found "skulking in the shadows"(and if he's trying to claim cop without having a cop, we've not had night yet), and finally we've got Battle Mage accusing me of bad logic for voting for Akbar due to his bad logic. Lynch me if you want, but I'm town.

Unless you think that him claiming vanilla townie is really a "strong town tell," I don't see what would lead you to completely write him off.

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Unless you think that him claiming vanilla townie is really a "strong town tell," I don't see what would lead you to completely write him off.

He made some towntell which I'm too lazy to find myself and am waiting for him to point out. It obviously cannot be claiming vanilla townie are you fking stupid?

My reference to his claim was sarcasm. Are you fucking stupid?

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Unless you think that him claiming vanilla townie is really a "strong town tell," I don't see what would lead you to completely write him off.

He made some towntell which I'm too lazy to find myself and am waiting for him to point out. It obviously cannot be claiming vanilla townie are you fking stupid?

My reference to his claim was sarcasm. Are you fucking stupid?

I've seen your play before. I know you are capable of doing something that stupid..I mean something that I think is wrong.. so first thing that comes to my mind is that you are doing it again.

That's fair. I don't exactly play... well, intelligently. Anyway, I was trying to say that unless SL was silly enough to take "I claim vanilla townie" as a protown tell, I didn't see where the strong tell was.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Question for TCS.
Earlier BM jumped on Lowell and stated this:

because Lowell seems happy to go for Masterchief, i can assume he is not Mafia.
Therefore i change my vote to Lowell, in an attempt to save a citizen.
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Shortly after you say:

Damn it, it's only page one and already Twito's convinced me that he's town.

(which seems surprisingly quick to me)

And then you say:

unvote my brother in alcohol abuse, vote:Battle Mage for the badlogic. I would think, occasionally, that Lowell votes for scum.

Not only are you jumping to Lowell's defense, someone your not supposed to know. But, by saying Lowell occasionally votes for scum, means he's normally voting against townies. How would you know if Lowell was voting correctly or not?
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Ps. sorry about the sloppy quoting, I'm still trying to learn the system.

"Twito's convinced me that he is town" was mostly a joke. My original vote for Twito was a random vote to start the game, and my vote on Battle Mage was because his logic for voting Lowell was faulty. "X votes for Y, I'm convinced Y is town, therefore X is scum" is bad logic. Furthermore, I'm (still) not sure how BM could be certain of MC's innocence when at that point he hadn't even posted yet.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

I'm going to

unvote: Shadowlurker

. My original vote was on poor grounds, and for that I apologize. I'm going to

HoS: IH

and

FoS: Spectrumvoid

.

IH's last post seems like something "lazy scum" would say:

AndrewS is now at lynch minus 2.

I need to go over the thread instead of being retarded.

And earlier when the BM wagon was still on, he made a mention that the people on that wagon, namely myself and Fircoal, were scummy-looking but failed to make further mention of it.

Spectrumvoid's activity is less suspicious to me, but her latest vote on IH smacks of distancing to me. Taken in conjunction with IH's warming up to SV in posts 79, 87, and 104, she might be trying to disassociate from him.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Also if Warming up to SV is a scumtell, then I must look scummy in every game I'm in with her. = )

Shooting down the argument instead of the messenger is a scumtell.

Wait... what?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

vote:IH

I think the IH wagon needs a little more steam. I believe I've already outlined my reasons for voting him.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Why isn't IH lynched yet?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

To BM:

Bandwagoning =/= scum.

The actions of IH = scum.

I wonder if you're not uncomfortable that we are onto

your

scumbuddy.

On the other hand, I would like for IH to post his defense before we lynch him. It would make scum easier to track.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Whatever... when he comes up scum you're next to go brohanes.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

FoS: Twito and Fircoal

[The Central Scrutinizer]

TCS: Care to explain your FOS?

Not initially, seeing as Twito and Fircoal did little to explain their votes. The FOS was for precisely that reason... I am absolutely convinced that IH is scum, and at this point anyone who looks like they are attempting to derail his lynch is, in my mind, scummy. That you unvoted IH and voted Ripley is patently confusing to me, because I thought that both are probably scum, IH for all previous reasoning and Ripley because he was attempting to derail.

Another possible scenario, one which I have previously entertained (if you read my prior posts) is that you and IH are scumbuddies and that your FOSing and voting of him was distancing. That you are jumping off of his bandwagon now only serves to confirm my suspicions.

That being said, I feel far more comfortable with an IH lynch today than any other, although the following players could also get my vote if circumstances merit it:

1. Spectrumvoid: for clear distancing from IH and a blatant attempt to derail.

2. Ripley: for a derail from IH to BM, pushing a quicklynch, and a couple of other things too involved to list in my short and punchy sentence.

3. Shadowlurker: for calling out IH as scum, but failing to hammer him when the time came to lynch obvious mafia.

I would like to

retract my FOS's on Twito and Fircoal

... they were primarily meant to get you to provide additional reasoning for your vote on Ripley, and at this juncture I don't see any point in confusing the issue with a lot of unnecessary accusations. IH is scum, and I would bank on at least one, if not two of the other three I listed being scum as well.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

HOS: ShadowLurker

I really don't like how he pops in once a page and comes up with (different) scumgroups, but on the whole contributes shit-all to the discussion. And what he has contributed has been self-contradictory. I don't like how he FoS'd IH, voted him, retracted the vote (all without stating the reason), and now does not hammer him, I don't like how he once exonerated AndrewS by calling him "certain" town and now declares AndrewS to be part of the mafia.

In fact, I find this ridiculous.

unvote, vote: Shadowlurker

, who is obvious scum along with IH.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Seriously, I thought SL was an experienced player.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

HOS: ShadowLurker

I really don't like how he pops in once a page and comes up with (different) scumgroups, but on the whole contributes shit-all to the discussion. And what he has contributed has been self-contradictory. I don't like how he FoS'd IH, voted him, retracted the vote (all without stating the reason), and now does not hammer him, I don't like how he once exonerated AndrewS by calling him "certain" town and now declares AndrewS to be part of the mafia.

In fact, I find this ridiculous.

unvote, vote: Shadowlurker

, who is obvious scum along with IH.

I'm only 10 days more experienced than you so don't try to pull that newb card.

I'm not playing any newb card.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

SL is an experienced player.

Then can YOU explain his posts?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

HOS: ShadowLurker

I really don't like how he pops in once a page and comes up with (different) scumgroups, but on the whole contributes shit-all to the discussion. And what he has contributed has been self-contradictory. I don't like how he FoS'd IH, voted him, retracted the vote (all without stating the reason), and now does not hammer him, I don't like how he once exonerated AndrewS by calling him "certain" town and now declares AndrewS to be part of the mafia.

In fact, I find this ridiculous.

unvote, vote: Shadowlurker

, who is obvious scum along with IH.

What would you like me to expand upon thouth unworthy mortal?

Sorry for the triple... I want you to explain

1) Why IH was scummy and then stopped being so in your eyes, not hammering him, and not even mentioning his wagon in your posts.

2) Why Andrews had a "huge town tell" that made you "almost certain" of his innocence, but is now part of the scumgroup.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Err, why am I scummy in

your

eyes TCS? I mean, yes you have found some flaws with Shadow Lurker's posts, which have been noted, but my question has yet to be answered.

I have something which I consider to be a scumtell, but I am

not

making the mistake of giving it away. Suffice it to say that if one was to look at your posts in isolation, one would find something that gives it away.

@TCS Time out! You are convinced IH is scum. And now you've added Shadowlurker to the list. But, instead of keeping your vote on a "scum" with 4 votes on him, close to getting convicted, you unvote and move your vote to the "scum" with no votes on him?

Whats wrong with this picture?

Because SL deserves my vote... though, you've got a point. We should lynch IH first to validate my theory.

unvote, vote: IH

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Lemme see if I got this straight. By fingering TCS as suspicious and vowing to lynch him if IH is town, your saying I'm working with him! ? !
WTF sense does that make?

As far as I have been able to tell, it's a pretty common tactic for new scum (and sometimes even old scum) to try to get two town lynches for the price of one by pushing the "if Lynch 1 comes up town, you're Lynch 2" idea. IE, if by some magic IH managed to come up town, I would then be forfeit, and the mafia gets two innocent lynches. We should make our decisions based on more factors than one person pushing one lynch, especially on days past day one. So the notion is kind of scummy.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

I think the Akbizzle summed it up quite succinctly. IH+SL=SCUM

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Of course, Akbar's argument against the IH lynch, especially his last post, is also WIFOM-tastic. So it's quite possible that he's scum with IH as well.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

unvote because of this

:

I will be away from now till Monday due to Chinese New Year.

In that case, would it be possible to get a deadline extension until Tuesday or Wednesday?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Or, alternately, you could just vote IH and leave it there.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

unvote because of this

:

I will be away from now till Monday due to Chinese New Year.

So your convinced I'm scum, but you don't want to leave your vote on me and......miss the action?

In her defense, I would and have done the same... you never know what will happen.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Ok, so my top three most scummy are IH, SL, and Akbar, in that order. IH because he lurks and has yet to post any content helpful to the game. SL for pretty much the same reason, except throw in a couple of blatant evasions and unexplained FOS-ing, voting, and the like. Akbar for his borderline-WIFOM. I still have my suspicions about spectrumvoid, but that's more of a gut feeling than anything I can explain.

I'd like for everyone to explain why they're voting for who they are voting for... or just post something. I'm a little frustrated that there are two obvious scum here and the day is still going.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

LAWL, have you even read the last few pages?

Not only that, but you have now entered the realm of lurker hunting. = )

Ok, I'll give you a pass for being ill. Now focus on the second part of what I wrote. What have you contributed to the town?

Ripley, Ripley is the most like scum. Now he brings another person up, trying so hard to get a lynch while yet appearing innocent. Lowell too, has acted scummy, and trying to defend his fellow scum, and counter claim.

I really don't see what you're seeing.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Ok, I'll give you a pass for being ill. Now focus on the second part of what I wrote. What have you contributed to the town?

May I repeat. Have you even read the last few pages?

Are we playing the question game?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Ok, I'll give you a pass for being ill. Now focus on the second part of what I wrote. What have you contributed to the town?

May I repeat. Have you even read the last few pages?

Are we playing the question game?

What do you think?

Wait, why are you playing?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Should I

FOS: Fircoal

?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Ok, I'll give you a pass for being ill. Now focus on the second part of what I wrote. What have you contributed to the town?

May I repeat. Have you even read the last few pages?

Are we playing the question game?

Why aren't you, or your scumbuddy, lynched yet?

I have a scumbuddy?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

:Patiently waits for spectrumvoid to return to vote for IH:

[The Central Scrutinizer]

*BM impatiently awaits the wagon on TCS (who is blatantly scum) to grow.

Since no one else is willing to talk, I'd like to hear your case on me.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

As for my part, I didn't post much on the last day because I was at work.

Today I'm going to

vote: Shadowlurker

, scum #2.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

TCS and Akbar: take me through the SL logic a little more. Any way I cut it I think that SL is not the pick for today. Akbar, why quote someone else and then vote SL? TCS, why say nothing at all and vote him?

Also, I retract my FOS on BM. I looked back through and he's still innocent as hell. Just a little confused.

Why Shadowlurker? I think he's the obvious lynch today. He exonerated AndrewS and then decided he was obvious scum. He voted IH early in the day and then hopped off as soon as a wagon began to build, staying on Akbar until night. He has contributed little or no actual content to the discussion, and what he does post is self-contradictory and spamtastic. I see your point on Fircoal... his late move onto the Akbar wagon is questionable. But I still think that SL is the more sure lynch today.

Battle Mage... I just don't even know what to say.

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Lol the accusations of me are so bullshit and stretched it's not even funny.

1. I NEVER THOUGHT ANDREWS WAS SCUM. I knew he was obviously town and would bet money on it. And I was right.

3. Lowell's behavior isn't even close to his behavior as scum, he is Town.

The scumgroup of the day is AndrewS and Lowell.

Votes on either would be appreciated.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

i think he refers to the fact that as soon as i accused u, you voted for me-giving no reasons other than OMGUS.
BM

He can answer guestions directed to him himself I believe and point me to correct posts so that I can prove him wrong.

I could see BM as scum.
I could see TCS as scum.
I could see Fircoal as scum.
I could see Akbar as scum.
I could actually see many of you as scum.

Actually

unvote

Vote: Akbar

I want a claim out of him. I have my reasons.

unvote, vote: Twito

Even if you are not scum, you are certainly not helpful town. You are one or the other, though... scum or not-helpful town.

Until you can explain your Akbar vote over all of the other candidates, my vote remains on you. I think right now Akbar is the

least

likely scum candidate among us.

My rankings as of this post:

Shadowlurker still the scummiest for reasons I mentioned
Twito scummy but getting voted for because of this latest inanity
Fircoal scummy for the reasons Lowell mentioned
Battle Mage suspicious, but looking more like confused town
SV suspicious but less so since her hop off of Akbar
And everyone else, who is town.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Lol the accusations of me are so bullshit and stretched it's not even funny.

1. I NEVER THOUGHT ANDREWS WAS SCUM. I knew he was obviously town and would bet money on it. And I was right.

3. Lowell's behavior isn't even close to his behavior as scum, he is Town.

The scumgroup of the day is AndrewS and Lowell.

Votes on either would be appreciated.

Yeah, I'm obviously stupid enough as to call AndrewS guranteed protown in my posts and then say he's scum in one of my next ones. Everything I do has a reason.

That's a convenient way of saying that you had no reason?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

That's a convenient way of saying that you had no reason?

Is this post a convenient way of saying "I'm a fucking dumbass" ?

Yeah, I thought so.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Would convenient conclusion be that SL didn't have a reason and that TCS is a fucking dumbass?

Implying he had a reason for posting that he changed his mind but "never changing his mind" about AndrewS is not the same as giving his reason. I guess I'm just a dumbass, then.

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3. Twito, why do you want a claim out of Akbar??

Cuz I think he is scum and that there were wagons on two scum yesterday. And cuz of post 376.

Why do you think that? I think it's incredibly unlikely that both wagons were on scum yesterday.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

I understand Twito's reasoning, even if I don't agree with it... and I don't see it as particularly anti-town in nature. Misguided, perhaps, but not necessarily wrong.

Therefore,

unvote, vote:Shadowlurker

[The Central Scrutinizer]

TCS: Do you mean you disagree with what Twito said about SL's scumminess, yet you vote SL?

Lowell: Why are you letting yourself be led around?

I disagree with Twito saying that Akbar is probably scum. I think it's doubtful that we had two large, competing wagons that built up at the last minute of a deadline that both targeted scum.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Is softclaiming cop a scumtell?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

This is, of course, an academic question.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

What is softclaiming? (I genuinely have never seen this word before.)

Okay, on the assumption that TCS knows what he's doing.

That's what my comment was referring to.

TCS: Satisfied with the clarification.

Softclaiming is implying that you have knowledge or powers of a certain power role without actually formally claiming that you do.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Is that directed at me?

For the record, that's not what I meant to do. I'm trusting TCS in this case because he's been right on the money about some things and his logic is generally pretty good. Any other conclusions you get from that are probably false.

No, it's not directed at you at all. I'm only curious whether or not the more IC players in this game can make a generalization about whether or not softclaiming a role is more likely to be a sign of a genuine pro-town power role or scum. If it is the former, then I'll shut up about it; if it is the latter, I may have to change my vote. Until then, I'll be quiet about the specifics as I'd rather not out our cop, if he/she really is our cop.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

EBWOP: Of course, saying even that might give it away, but I think it's an important question to consider.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

TCS: I'd like you to explain who you think is soft-claiming.

Well, after the reread I just did my first piece of evidence seems less strong. When I first read this post:

because Lowell seems happy to go for Masterchief, i can assume he is not Mafia.
Therefore I change my vote to Lowell, in an attempt to save a citizen.

I thought that BM might have been insinuating that he knew MC's alignment. Assuming it was a scumtell, I voted for him. I changed my mind later, partially because I was afraid he might actually be cop. But after this post:

well despite my original opinion that SL looked scummy, TCS being on his wagon is ringing alarm bells in my head.
However, i dont think there is enough of a case on Fircoal either.

All i will say is that people should be very wary about joining the wagon on SL.

By my reckoning it is scum-filled, and i dont think a speed lynch here would be in our best interests.
BM

Emphasis: TCS

It seems to me that he is definitely implying that he knows SL is innocent. I'm not sure if this is a cop-tell or a mafia-tell. I'm leaning toward the latter. It's possible that the remaining scum are Battle Mage and Shadowlurker, and he might be trying to deflect. He might just be mafia unconsciously revealing town. Or, and this is why I was hesitant to post this outright, he might actually be our cop.

Of course, BM might have just said this because he considers the wagon to have scum on it, but I definitely get the vibe that he is implying knowledge of SL's innocence.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Personally, I don't think what BM did was a soft-scum-tell. I also do not buy the reasons for SL at the moment.

What do you think?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

What do I think what?

Well, you've told us repeatedly what you

don't

think about this game. What

do

you think about it?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

To all of you not on the Shadowlurker wagon, I have one question for you: what, if anything, has Shadowlurker said or done to benefit the town, at all, this entire game?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

I went over some of the IH posts. There are several places where he made a definite effort to get wagons started on Ripley and Lowell. If anyone is still unsure about them, the 1st half of the thread will lend some insight. There are also a couple spots where he attacked Fircoal, just not as blatent.

In regards to SL, I’m starting to see some connections with BM and IH.

BM: Shut up for a bit, it'll help the town.

This post gives the appearance BM isn’t following SL’s strategy.

i implore everyone not on the IH wagon to think carefully about what it signifies. This game certainly hasnt been the most lively ive participated in, and i somewhat feel sorry for those who are Mafia in it, as it must be a real drag. It is my OPINION (as believe me when i say it is nothing more than speculation) that those who are pushing for a lynch most, are these frustrated Mafia.
I personally dont think we have enough evidence to lynch him, and i am greatly suspicious of those who are piling him.
The Central Scrutiniser has been especially keen to lynch him recently.
Im not saying that i think IH is innocent, but TCS has been exhibiting some pretty scummy behaviour recently, and is certainly worthy of my vote.

The tone of this post seems to change half way through. It begins with “I implore everyone..” ie. Beg, seriously consider, urge, etc.
Then changes to “It is my opinion….nothing more than speculation...”almost like a safeguard for later to what he was saying at the time, because he knew it wasn't true.

Then SL jumps in:

i implore everyone not on the IH wagon to think carefully about what it signifies. This game certainly hasnt been the most lively ive participated in, and i somewhat feel sorry for those who are Mafia in it, as it must be a real drag. It is my OPINION (as believe me when i say it is nothing more than speculation) that those who are pushing for a lynch most, are these frustrated Mafia.
I personally dont think we have enough evidence to lynch him, and i am greatly suspicious of those who are piling him.
The Central Scrutiniser has been especially keen to lynch him recently.
Im not saying that i think IH is innocent, but TCS has been exhibiting some pretty scummy behaviour recently, and is certainly worthy of my vote.

Good Appeal to Emotion

Unvote Vote BM

Here I would like to point out IH was lynch -1. BM had only 1 vote on him. If he thought BM was appealing to emotion to protect IH, why wouldn’t he keep his vote on IH and see the scum lynch go through? Instead he used voting BM as an easy excuse to remove his vote from IH.

The exchange that follows is interesting as well:

I prefer to think of it as a good attempt at avoiding a Townie-Lynch.
Afraid of the fact that i have worked out ur scumbuddies perhaps?

Yes both are obviously true.

well i can certainly vouch for the former

. The latter is of course just suspicion, but the fact u have no response does little for your defence...

@BM Please explain how you can vouch for IH being town?

well despite my original opinion that SL looked scummy, TCS being on his wagon is ringing alarm bells in my head.
However, i dont think there is enough of a case on Fircoal either.

All i will say is that people should be very wary about joining the wagon on SL

. By my reckoning it is scum-filled, and i dont think a speed lynch here would be in our best interests.

For some reason this statement sounds strangely familiar. Oh yeah, that’s because it’s the same thing you said about the IH wagon.

Good posting. I hadn't even considered the possibility of a BM-SL scumpair before now.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

I guess also there's the chance that one of your "innocents" is actually the godfather. Right?

It's an open setup... there is no Godfather.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Well, unless there is a counterclaim, my scumtheory is pretty much shot to hell. However, I think that spectrumvoid made the right decision by coming out at this point. Three confirmed innocents basically means that the mafia is screwed.

I'm going to have to think about this game a lot more before I start throwing around accusations again. But I will

unvote

and

FOS: Akbar

for the bad leads.

Wow, I can't believe SL is town. ><

[The Central Scrutinizer]

vote: Twito.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

you do all that analysis and then just join the largest wagon?
also-why ignore TCS? (obvious scum).

So I guess I believe SV's claim, and I'll believe she is sane and there is no GF. Her posts are pretty consistent with what I would expect from a cop. That clears her, BM, and SL.

As well, I'm also not budging on Akbar being town. I find it nearly impossible to believe that we had 2 scum on the brink of lynch. Ripley, for sniffing out IH and placing the decisive vote (when no action at all would have sent Akbar to the gallows instead), has got to be town.

That leaves me only TCS, Twito, and Fircoal as scum candidates.

We should go back to the flurry of activity around lynch. Especially if you assume (as I do) Akbar to be town, the last few days/hours before the IH lynch really come into focus. Akbar made a good post about this, actually. Post 376. He just unfortunately came to the wrong conclusion.

I believe the scum are the 3 "multiple-posters" towards the lynch. IH, Fircoal, and Twito.

I know earlier I suspected Fircoal for the way he shifted his vote at the end, but somehow I got turned away from that and onto SL and SV. So, back to basics.

vote Fircoal

FoS Twito

I've been purposefully ignoring you all this time, but seriously... what gives?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

I'm going on hiatus for the next eight days due to spring break, and since this Day just started, I guess this is as good a time as any to take my leave. I'll be sure to reread and post my thoughts in detail when I get back.

Until then, I would like to

proxy my vote to Shadowlurker

if the mod will allow it.

See you all next week.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Well, BM is cleared. Ripley and Lowell went out of there way to lynch IH. That leaves TCS who actually tried to get out of lynching IH.

Vote TCS

I pushed IH all day... I was the first one on his wagon and the one pushing his vote all day when none of you could see how scummy he was playing. If you

really

think that it's worth it to lynch me just to end the day and make your odds of hitting scum greater, then I guess I can't stop you. But all things considered, I'd rather live. I like being alive at the end of the game.

Some thoughts after re-read:

1) Akbar is town because I don't think we could have run up two scum day 1.
2) Every living non-cleared person was on the IH wagon, so it's clear one scum was trying to bus IH.
3) In retrospect, Fircoal was obviously trying to derail IH and build a counter-wagon on Akbar, and we probably should have lynched him Day 2. For my part in not doing I apologize, but I thought Twito was the obvious lynch at that point. Either way I think it's elementary that we consider Akbar cleared.
4) That leaves myself, Lowell and Ripley as the only not-cleared people. I find it unlikely that Ripley would hammer IH, and I find it plausible that in the short Day 3 he had any chance to weigh in for or against Fircoal, so I don't see that as a strike against him. Ripley did hammer Twito, but I'm not going to hold that lynch against

anyone

.
5) I am innocent--vanilla townie. I pushed IH Day 1, I voted my conscience Day 2, and Day 3 I gave my vote to confirmed town and sped up the lynch of scum.

Therefore,

vote:Lowell

.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Good game, town.

I blame Fircoal.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

I didn't mean for my wagon on IH to end up in a lynch. If anything, I was trying to push TOO hard and get counter-lynched, thus clearing my scum partner. But I had to work with what happened. Fircoal was a little too obvious in his intentions and would not agree to kill either BM, SL or SV, who, my hand to Allah, were my top three night choices to kill N1.

Anyway. Good game, town. I've learned that bussing a scumbuddy Day 1 is not the way to go about winning as scum.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

EBQOP: I never once thought to NK spectrumvoid, I thought she would be a good lynch. But N1 I did want to kill either SL or BM.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

When I looked back over my pms i never mentioned lynching void... sorry allah.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

*nk'ing