Scien wrote:please tell me why you like to start off your games with a random roll result instead of a normal random vote.
It generally generates more discussion. One thing an IC of another game taught me is that generating discussion is always a good thing, even if it's aimed at yourself.
This exact same thing happened before in my experience, and I had to give that player a hard time as well.
You went hard on him, if I recall, mainly due to how he dodged the questions.
Right off the bat I can tell you I dislike this style of voting. The fact that you let the result become a self-vote makes me like it even less.
The vote will be removed if there is any move I see as particularly scummy, as it would be if it were a random vote.
Rolling seems to me to take away a risk involved in getting involved in the game.
I find that, if used correctly, it actually generates rather the healthy amount of discussion and if the person using it does a good job, (s)he will become one of the most involved players in the game. Off of nothing more than a dice roll and the reactions I got out of it, on another site, I got one scum lynched.
The risk being having an action be viewed as being scummy.
There's also the risk of using this tactic in front of someone who you know has seen it before--you. I know all too well where you've seen it done before. I'd argue that a random roll is more risky than a random vote.
A roll is something that someone could hide behind, because if someone decided it looked weird, the rolling player can just blame statistics instead of trying to defend themselves.
I would rather hate myself if I did this; I never would blame something on statistics, as I much prefer to defend myself. At the very least, it adds a certain element of challenge to the game.
Long story short, I don't really see a roll serving any purpose besides two possibilities. A) A scum using it to stay behind the scenes. B) A townie trying to lay low, and not draw attention to themselves.
I believe my above explanations give other alternatives as well.
From past experience, you seem to be a player that would not fall into B. So what are your motives behind the die roll?
From past experience, you can also conclude that I do not fall into A. I know what these things can produce, and it has the opposite outcome of what you describe, in my experience.
Second, you allowing the roll to fall on yourself makes me cringe even more.
There are nine players. Why eliminate any from the throw? Quite personally, I have a dislike for any who remove themselves and use this.
I dislike both a random roll, and self-voting.
And in any other part of the game, I would agree with you.
Sorry to give you grief right out of the bat, but I don't like your initial action.
One of the reasons I prefer replacing in after the random voting stage is already over...
But I want an answer from Mastin about the motives.
This should suffice.
I look forward to having a fun game from all of you.
